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Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by ladygogo: 1:10am On Nov 29, 2014 |
Plaetton killing it as usual. 3 Likes |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:10am On Nov 29, 2014 |
Timmytimmy:You are using conjectures to get your imagination or somebody else who cannot accept facts to prove your point to your message across though. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:11am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:likewise the bang theory can not formulate the soil, water, cloud, planet e.t.c, they are all different processes . |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:13am On Nov 29, 2014 |
blym4real:They are inching close. Inorganic bacteria seems to be getting close to explaining that and many other processes. Science is a process of discovery in a simple term. 2 Likes |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by chy22(m): 1:15am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija: You clearly forget to think while asking somebody to make use of brain. They came through process to give birth to an infinite process that is true, but you need the metals, the space the man power and the time to v=bring about such process. If you take out those variables how will it happen? |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by davien(m): 1:16am On Nov 29, 2014 |
blym4real:You are merely repeating your questions....the immensely dense state of all things in existence is the singularity that is not understood.. Gravity itself did not exist at such a stage.. I never said a "dot spun rapidly till it exploded"... This is a popular question proposed by creationist kent hovind...and is based on a total misunderstanding of the big bang... It tries to use the law of conservation of angular momentum to structure the singularity as a ball in space...when in reality space,time,matter are the singularity of which asking what happened in an environment that didn't exist would be like asking where north of the north pole is. I know the law you are referring to,and I just explained above why that is not the case... I've already explained to you that the singularity is not a spinning ball of mass that would be subject to the law.. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:17am On Nov 29, 2014 |
blym4real:Yelp. But one came before the other in some processes. Just like your forefathers gave birth to your mother and father who in a place gave birth to you and your sister... At least, my analogy is clear enough to understand. This is not balancing of equations or treating and formulating of theories. 2 Likes |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by chy22(m): 1:18am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:Till they explain it and also explain the evolution of consciousness it remains unproven theory and that alone makes it non science but a belief. You don't see science journals publishing on proven information as fact. Call it a theory and a belief because that is what it is. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:21am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:seems to be getting close? Even we if we assume that is true then you still have to believe you evolve from ape. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by electropiz(m): 1:24am On Nov 29, 2014 |
There is God oooooooh, |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by plaetton: 1:24am On Nov 29, 2014 |
Slonge2:It's good to come across an honest theist once in a while. 4 Likes |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:25am On Nov 29, 2014 |
chy22:Bleh! Hasn't it occurred to you that those are parts of what a process is? If I take out those variables it will become another process without those variables then as you continue, due to limitation, we will be inching close to the singularity - the point of the origin of the process, like in the quantum mechanics I pointed out before. A point where everything that exist is made up of the same particle no matter what the thing is. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:26am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:no, that different, the line and process of reproduction is the same from generation to generation. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:27am On Nov 29, 2014 |
blym4real:Yes but you aren't your father at a point in time. Think about that clearly. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:28am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:Likewise it part of the process that apes developed to human. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:29am On Nov 29, 2014 |
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Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:30am On Nov 29, 2014 |
blym4real:What is wrong with existing from ape? The same ape evolved from another form. Didn't I explain that we evolves through our ancestors that belong to the classification of the primate or ape the hominid before? 1 Like |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by chy22(m): 1:31am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija: It seems you are finding it difficult to comprehend simple explanation. It can be what ever process it wants to be, my questions still remains where would the variables come from. Remember we are talking about the beginning of every thing here, where would the variables come from if it all started from nothing? Quit running around the question, give an answer, if don't have one admit you don't. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:35am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:Personalize it to yourself, since we will continue evolving base on your theory why hasn't man evolved to another creature. 1 Like |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by davien(m): 1:37am On Nov 29, 2014 |
chy22:Space is the phenomenon that allows objects to be located on a 3-dimensional plane....with respect to time. The singularity as I keep pointing out time and time again is existence itself at a 0-dimensional plane.. Do you pause and listen to what you are saying, Do not recognise that 0 is what it is and except you add something it can never change.I doubt you understand eucladian geometry. Even still its best you explain what you mean here...are you using mundane understanding of the physical world to address a quantum state? When you say what we need to do abandon without out any prove you are at that point moving from science to believe and religion.I said classical eucladian mathematics should be abandoned in favour of a new non-eucladian conjecture that would give an understanding of the singularity.. an example is hawkin entropy...but more on the non-eucladian side. Someone has been reading too many creationists pamphlets....science works by creating testable models that are verified by the evidence to make predictions in nature(theories) This is not an insult but an honest comment....you have a kindergarten grade level of understanding on what science is and I'll tell you why... We haven't observed pluto's entire orbital period....nor had any experiment to prove it having the orbital period we gave it....so how did we now know it to be 200 plus years? By using the model of newtonian mechanics and the theory of relativity we've deduced it and it has fulfilled the predictions of those models. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by chy22(m): 1:38am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija: What prove do you have for that claim. Because some structures and DNA sequence are present within a wide species does not mean it is a prove they evolved. It can also mean they where designed by same designer, mean things that perform the same function will be kept the same. Use this to think about it: all Toyota cars have got tires because they need to move and the Toyota puts the tires in all the cars, but that does not mean the cars evolved randomly on their own. Variations occur and chances of these variations been harmful or beneficial is 50% each. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:38am On Nov 29, 2014 |
chy22:The variables are parts of the process. Put those variables on a separate part they too have their make up as you continue to break them down you would come to a singularity of the same make up. If you cannot understand it. The singularity we are inching close to already is made up of any of those variables, whatever thing you can imagine. It is hard for you to comprehend. If you understand quantum mechanics very well you would be digging beyond that process at this point. Let me give you an instance to help you toward this explanation - just like electron can be at different places at once to effect different or another process. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:39am On Nov 29, 2014 |
ladygogo:I dey tell u!!!Not an atheist o,but RESPECT Plaetton,Davien,allfornaija and everyone making reasonable,logical arguments here.Damn! 3 Likes |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:45am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:Like you forgotten scientists are now debunking the darwin theory of evolution which they claim it scientifically impossible to believe . |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:46am On Nov 29, 2014 |
chy22:DNA are chemicals and as you break those chemicals down you will find out that they aren't different from what make up the stone or plant. In a nutshell, ape and human are made up of the same thing though they look different because of the way the are formed or lack of the quantity that make up their composition of of those chemicals. I am using those kiddie's terms for clarity sake. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by ooman(m): 1:47am On Nov 29, 2014 |
musicwriter:Ok, but I know the world won't end in 2060. It won't be the first time such claims were made. 1 Like |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by adexsimply(m): 1:49am On Nov 29, 2014 |
Emmalot121:If you're telling us that creating the whole universe in 7 days is more logical, simple and inclusive, then I think those three words have different meanings from what I know. 4 Likes |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by chy22(m): 1:49am On Nov 29, 2014 |
davien: 1. What singularity do you keep pointing out, you have not answered the question of how the matter came to be, so singularity is a theory. 2. Even a quantum state needs mathematical constant to function, it needs materials to function irrespective of how small this material is. Bringing us back to the question where did the materials come from. 3. Sometimes people say things in assumption and I will class this one as one. 4. A kindergarten understanding of science? Really I do a PhD research in molecular biology. Just like science I prefer proves http://youtu.be/u1ODL8g4ygk have a look around 1:17 that is me. so I do understand science more than you can imagine. Get me proves of all you claims sir 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by adexsimply(m): 1:52am On Nov 29, 2014 |
mrlaw93:I'm still trying to think of how these methods will prove that a god exists. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by blym4real: 1:54am On Nov 29, 2014 |
all4naija:One of the best examples of evolution nonsense is the thought that a wingless bird began to evolve a wing. Why this would occur is not answered by evolutionists. The wing stub did not make the bird more adaptable to his environment. The first wing stubs would be much too small for the bird to fly. Why would a bird evolve wing stubs that are useless? This is backwards from the evolutionary theory of natural selection, which states that birds adapt and change in order to survive better in their environment. The bird with a half-size wing is placed at a disadvantage in its environment. Why would the bird continue for millions of generations to improve a wing stub that is useless? The Theory of Evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species, not the weakest. A bird with a useless wing is at a severe disadvantage. This is the opposite of natural selection |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by Nobody: 1:54am On Nov 29, 2014 |
blym4real:This is not all about Darwin's Theory. This what have been scientifically proven. Evolution is completely a process that exist. In biology, it takes a very long period of time and slowly that you cannot seem to recognize it if you aren't careful. |
Re: What Nigerians Think Of People Who Do NOT Believe In God? by adexsimply(m): 1:58am On Nov 29, 2014 |
musicwriter:for that sake of argument, let's say Newton predicted the end of the world, did he also predict the world would be brought to an end through a signal from some trumpets-blowing archangels? |
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