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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 9:08am On Dec 06, 2014
TheTerrible:


Being the victim of a crime is a very broad aspect but let me say this if the ways of the victim was straight and the victim had an inquisitive/sharp mind and thinking, the victim shouldn't be found in that predicament unless the victim was 'looking for something that wasn't in the market'

When somebody contacts a disease it is as a result of not taking heed to advice(s) from those in position of rendering it.

That instance of thunder strike get as e be, IMHO i'll say it was induced by forces against the person's life.
There was an instance, can't remember the location, where one NEPA official got himself killed. He went to this vicinity where the residents were owing to get 'daily bread', if not he will cut their wire. Alright, when he arrived, don't know why the residents did not oblige to his request, he then put the ladder on the pole and mounted it. When he got to the top, he paused to give them a second chance, it all fell on 'rocky grounds'. Meanwhile, they've been warning him all along not to try touching the wires talkless of cutting it, he didn't listen. One baba came and told them to leave him alone since he was doing 'yanga'. The official then proceeded to cut the wires, as he was doing that, the baba touched his tongue, the official was electrocuted and 'floated' to the ground dead!
Whose fault was it?

God did not create a flawed system. In Gen. 1:31 says "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
It was humans who flawed it, a great flaw at that.


Also if He did not use the flawed system, don't you think you won't be alive or rather won't have ever existed to question His existence?
I can't make sense of anything you wrote here...But answer this: Between the bomb maker and activator,who is the real killer?

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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by honourhim: 9:08am On Dec 06, 2014
okeke00:
since he could not hear from God, i think you may have heard from him. Then help him answer those questions

No. Its not that he could not hear from God rather he does not want to hear from God.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by honourhim: 9:50am On Dec 06, 2014
olami100:
that is great @ op!! Because you just made me make lot of reaearch on my bible now.... I dnt knw why u all cant answer a question and not that some christain can reason like this to get some truth.. We are comfortable at pastors and teachers teaching us becos we are too lazy to search and ask questions and Just because somebody is asking a question and geting your opinion doesn't make him a fool and doesn't make you some christain better than him in any way. We christains at times are the biggest opposition!!! If somebody could think and ask such a question. I tink such question needs an answer..if you can't contribute you keep your mouth shut rather than to oppose and intimidate. Some atheist are better than some we christains who can't even think and ask questions.. Because we are too gullible to accept everytin some so called pastors and teachers preach..honestly if we christains reason the way some atheist think and proffer solution to the question then we won't be in this Religious mess in NIGERIA....

I did not see where you addressed his questions. Why dont you just shut up as you advised us to do? Nonsense. If you call yourself a christian and you want to claim that those questions have no answers then i pity your christianity. There's nothing strange in his questions, nothing there that does not have answers. He addressed his letter to God and he should go through the process of getting answers from God.

Some of you so called christians when you feel that the atheists have raised questions that are beyond you you begin to yap nonsense to win their likes. That you dont have answers to the questions doesnt mean others dont have. Let him meet God whom he asked. Period. Why is he afraid of communing with God
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 10:26am On Dec 06, 2014
philfearon:

Are you kidding me? @bolded......Answer one of the questions asked by the OP or forever remain A joke!!!

1. Easy request. But you and I know that you will NEVER be satisfied with any of the answers I give.

2. And I have honestly lost interest in the back and forth banter and insults and ridicule you guys are so quick to dish out to the Christian faith because you know you can get away with it. I don't see anyone insulting Islam in their thread like they do on christian threads.

3. If you can promise to be civil I will answer the issue of Cain if you want.

4. I still say ALL the questions he asked have easy explanations. You just need to have a little knowledge to answer them that's all.

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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Hiswordxray(m): 10:42am On Dec 06, 2014
olami100:


I agree to the fact that we should read the bible with faith but don't you think it is also good to be inquisitive when you read things.. My point is that there are ways to tackle people like this than to make derrogatory statement about them..though in every nonsense there is a sense...
It is foolishness to try to help a dead man understand.
It is foolishness to teach a dead man.
It is foolishness to expect a dead man reason with you.

1Cor 2:14 "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Hiswordxray(m): 10:50am On Dec 06, 2014
honourhim:


Were we quarreling? I simply advised you based on my observation about you.
You said things about me that were not totally true and you know they were not the truth.
You keep saying I have pride and you saw the way I humbled myself even to an atheist and I admit my mistakes. Can someone with pride do sure a thing?

You know we are brothers and I love you. I want you to see through the glasses of truth. But if you want to slap me go ahead, I would only turn my chink for you to slap me even more.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 11:39am On Dec 06, 2014
5minsmadness:


1. Easy request. But you and I know that you will NEVER be satisfied with any of the answers I give.

2. And I have honestly lost interest in the back and forth banter and insults and ridicule you guys are so quick to dish out to the Christian faith because you know you can get away with it. I don't see anyone insulting Islam in their thread like they do on christian threads.

3. If you can promise to be civil I will answer the issue of Cain if you want.

4. I still say ALL the questions he asked have easy explanations. You just need to have a little knowledge to answer them that's all.
I am not a rude person...I am civil....Go on bro..Let's talk objectively...
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 12:58pm On Dec 06, 2014
philfearon:

I am not a rude person...I am civil....Go on bro..Let's talk objectively...

Its simple, really. You have to get rid of that 'kindergarten Christianity ' your CRS teacher taught you. Adam wasn't the first man that God created.
Its right there in the bible but its amazing how many people miss it.

God created man on the 6th day, man and woman he created him, men and women he created them. And he set them on the surface of the earth and gave them dominion and said to them "be fruitful and multlply..." You get it.

On the 7th day God rested. Creation story over.

Then wayyyy over in chapter 2 God creates a man(one, singluar special man) and places him in the garden of Eden. He eventually gives that man a woman(eve) and they have sons . Cain kills Abel over a small matter of acceptance and he is sent into exile by God.



But Cain knows he is going to where other men are...unruly men that will kill him at the drop of a hat. So he begs God to have pity on him. God answers by marking Cain with a special mark so that any other man who sees Cain will not kill him. That is how Cain survived outside the borders of Eden. That is also where Cain gets his wife from.

Compare genesis 1:27 with Genesis 2:7


Genesis 1:27New International Version (NIV)
27
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them



Genesis 2:7-9New International Version (NIV)

7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.



C'est finis.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by olami100(m): 6:05pm On Dec 06, 2014
honourhim:


I did not see where you addressed his questions. Why dont you just shut up as you advised us to do? Nonsense. If you call yourself a christian and you want to claim that those questions have no answers then i pity your christianity. There's nothing strange in his questions, nothing there that does not have answers. He addressed his letter to God and he should go through the process of getting answers from God.

Some of you so called christians when you feel that the atheists have raised questions that are beyond you you begin to yap nonsense to win their likes. That you dont have answers to the questions doesnt mean others dont have. Let him meet God whom he asked. Period. Why is he afraid of communing with God

it is you that is too daft to understand what I am trying to communicate and in what ways did i claim that those questions did not have an answer I am not supporting the op neither do I support some of you gullible christains who quickly oppose some atheist just because they are trying to make you reason..
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Nobody: 7:33pm On Dec 06, 2014
Mr OP, it is written in the bible.. God said He would make the wise things of this world look stupid.. I guess dat is why there's something called "miracles". That explains why doctors diagnose a sickness even predict the outcome and something else, totally unexplainable happens.

God created the Heavens and the earth. The moon, stars and the sun, the galaxies... so I think He has full right to decide if the sun goes down or not. The sun moves around the orbit yet it was delayed.. wat do u tink happened? Who do u tink had control over it?

Dear mr OP, God created me, he created you, he created everyone on planet earth.. so his waysss re not our ways. Even if he decides to answer you am not sure you would understand fully. If he began to answer your questions one by one and made everything in your life simply logical... am sure you wouldn't be able to handle it.

Your beliefs are your beliefs.. you are entitled to them. But just habour your beliefs and go about your life gently.. dont challenge the Living God. The one who gives you breath and makes you wake up everyday.. He is a consuming fire.. you do not want His wrath to come down on you, trust me.

Ve a fab day.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 7:53pm On Dec 06, 2014
5minsmadness:


Its simple, really. You have to get rid of that 'kindergarten Christianity ' your CRS teacher taught you. Adam wasn't the first man that God created.
Its right there in the bible but its amazing how many people miss it.

God created man on the 6th day, man and woman he created him, men and women he created them. And he set them on the surface of the earth and gave them dominion and said to them "be fruitful and multlply..." You get it.

On the 7th day God rested. Creation story over.

Then wayyyy over in chapter 2 God creates a man(one, singluar special man) and places him in the garden of Eden. He eventually gives that man a woman(eve) and they have sons . Cain kills Abel over a small matter of acceptance and he is sent into exile by God.



But Cain knows he is going to where other men are...unruly men that will kill him at the drop of a hat. So he begs God to have pity on him. God answers by marking Cain with a special mark so that any other man who sees Cain will not kill him. That is how Cain survived outside the borders of Eden. That is also where Cain gets his wife from.

Compare genesis 1:27 with Genesis 2:7


Genesis 1:27New International Version (NIV)
27
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them



Genesis 2:7-9New International Version (NIV)

7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.



C'est finis.
Lol....You really research a lot bro..
Prior before I left Christianity,someone once told me that between Gen1 vs 1 and Gen1vs2 ,something really happened ..There was a loophole...initially,I doubted it,but it later became clear the dude was right...
The writers of Genesis were really smart shaa,but that loophole was the beginning of the discordance in the book!!
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 8:39pm On Dec 06, 2014
philfearon:

Lol....You really research a lot bro..
Prior before I left Christianity,someone once told me that between Gen1 vs 1 and Gen1vs2 ,something really happened ..There was a loophole...initially,I doubted it,but it later became clear the dude was right...
The writers of Genesis were really smart shaa,but that loophole was the beginning of the discordance in the book!!
The occurrences that took place between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 are no concern to man, so it was not mentioned in the bible.

What people need to understand is that the bible isn't God's diary...its mankind's manual. The bible doesn't capture the full essence or power or ability or mind of God. The bible is a guidebook to give you an idea of who God is and how you as a member of the human race can attain eternal life.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 9:05am On Dec 07, 2014
5minsmadness:

The occurrences that took place between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 are no concern to man, so it was not mentioned in the bible.

What people need to understand is that the bible isn't God's diary...its mankind's manual. The bible doesn't capture the full essence or power or ability or mind of God. The bible is a guidebook to give you an idea of who God is and how you as a member of the human race can attain eternal life.
Since the bible tells us who God is,why do you guys take offence when we refer to his trail of murders,massacres, genocide,immorality,etc? He is usually called unchangeable remember? That means that's who He is..Am I wrong?
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 12:53pm On Dec 07, 2014
philfearon:

Since the bible tells us who God is,why do you guys take offence when we refer to his trail of murders,massacres, genocide,immorality,etc? He is usually called unchangeable remember? That means that's who He is..Am I wrong?
Lol.
You would be referring to new age christians there. It is not for nothing the bible says 'The Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom'.

Having said that, let's clarify a few things. God cannot murder. Murder is a sin because you take the life of somebody else. You are essential stealing that person's life and future by cutting it short.
You cannot steal what is originally yours. God is the origin of all life. All life belongs to him. He can take it whenever and whichever way he chooses. This might be hard for some to digest but there it is. So if he chooses to take a life right now all you can say is 'The lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.' That is why he is The Lord Great and Terrible. And yes He is the same God today which is why demons tremble at his feet. Modernism tries to paint God as a kind meek and gentle old man who wouldn't hurt a fly. Wrong picture. Very wrong.



However God is also Just and Kind, Dedicated and Faithful. If he makes you a promise he will do all in His power to keep it, like I said in another thread, His word is law.

When he promised the children of Israel that he would lead them to the promised land, his word became law. There was no wy the children of Israel wouldn't get there. In the process, God was going to mete out justice on the inhabitants of that land. We don't know what they did but it was enough for God to wipe them off the face of the Earth. Rumours had it that these civilizations engaged in idolatory, child sacrifices, horrifying sexuaI orgies , witchcraft etc etc. And the Earth would cry out to God and God would find a way to cleanse the place. That was the way of the world then.

Even when the Israelites strayed away and commited same atrocities, because God is Just, he dealt the same way with them. We may find it horrifying but that was the way of the world then.


In the new testament in which we are in, Jesus stays God's hand. This is an age of 'permittance' in that God allows us do whatever we like however we like, all on borrowed time. Jesus has shed his blood for mankind and it is this sacrifice that stay's God's hand. Jesus comes with a different approach...God's compassion and love without the fire and brimstone...all with the hope that man will listen this one last time before the end of this world.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 2:30pm On Dec 07, 2014
5minsmadness:

Lol.
You would be referring to new age christians there. It is not for nothing the bible says 'The Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom'.

Having said that, let's clarify a few things. God cannot murder. Murder is a sin because you take the life of somebody else. You are essential stealing that person's life and future by cutting it short.
You cannot steal what is originally yours. God is the origin of all life. All life belongs to him. He can take it whenever and whichever way he chooses. This might be hard for some to digest but there it is. So if he chooses to take a life right now all you can say is 'The lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.' That is why he is The Lord Great and Terrible. And yes He is the same God today which is why demons tremble at his feet. Modernism tries to paint God as a kind meek and gentle old man who wouldn't hurt a fly. Wrong picture. Very wrong.



However God is also Just and Kind, Dedicated and Faithful. If he makes you a promise he will do all in His power to keep it, like I said in another thread, His word is law.

When he promised the children of Israel that he would lead them to the promised land, his word became law. There was no wy the children of Israel wouldn't get there. In the process, God was going to mete out justice on the inhabitants of that land. We don't know what they did but it was enough for God to wipe them off the face of the Earth. Rumours had it that these civilizations engaged in idolatory, child sacrifices, horrifying sexuaI orgies , witchcraft etc etc. And the Earth would cry out to God and God would find a way to cleanse the place. That was the way of the world then.

Even when the Israelites strayed away and commited same atrocities, because God is Just, he dealt the same way with them. We may find it horrifying but that was the way of the world then.


In the new testament in which we are in, Jesus stays God's hand. This is an age of 'permittance' in that God allows us do whatever we like however we like, all on borrowed time. Jesus has shed his blood for mankind and it is this sacrifice that stay's God's hand. Jesus comes with a different approach...God's compassion and love without the fire and brimstone...all with the hope that man will listen this one last time before the end of this world.
All you said would have been true...But History has proven that the Israelites were never held in slavery in Egypt.....In other words, Genesis-Deuteronomy were concocted to create a false history!!
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 2:56pm On Dec 07, 2014
philfearon:

All you said would have been true...But History has proven that the Israelites were never held in slavery in Egypt.....In other words, Genesis-Deuteronomy were concocted to create a false history!!
You are jumping from one point to the other now.

But what makes you think the history you read isn't the concocted one?

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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 3:05pm On Dec 07, 2014
5minsmadness:

You are jumping from one point to the other now.

But what makes you think the history you read isn't the concocted one?
It is not....It is coming from the Israelites themselves.....
Remember,Einstein is an Israelite,and he didn't believe in their almighty God..Not that it matters, but seeing reason is an individual choice...
2ndly,How am I jumping from one point to another?
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 3:24pm On Dec 07, 2014
5minsmadness:

You are jumping from one point to the other now.

But what makes you think the history you read isn't the concocted one?
http://www.religiouscriticism.com/bible/the-jews-were-never-slaves-in-egypt/
..
http://www.jewishideasdaily.com/1106/features/were-the-israelites-enslaved-in-egypt/
..
http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/were-jews-ever-really-slaves-in-egypt-or-is-passover-a-myth-1.420844
...
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Were-the-Israelites-enslaved-in-Egypt
.....
I could go on and on and on with providing you links,but once your mind is locked up to the truth and being really open minded,I am utterly wasting my time....
They know they were not enslaved,and its a fact....This automatically renders the Bible False, and just a tool to enslave the Masses....
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 4:01pm On Dec 07, 2014
philfearon:

It is not....It is coming from the Israelites themselves.....
Remember,Einstein is an Israelite,and he didn't believe in their almighty God..Not that it matters, but seeing reason is an individual choice...
2ndly,How am I jumping from one point to another?
You are right. It doesn't matter.

2ndly, our initial discourse was for me to answer one of the op's questions which I did. Then you moved to another topic. Then another. You will continue like this till you come to an argument I can't "answer" (in quote) before you are satisfied.

Please note I am not here to convince you about Christianity. I'm not a 'pentecostal'. I simply saw the falsity of the op's letter and decided to address it.

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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 4:18pm On Dec 07, 2014
5minsmadness:

You are right. It doesn't matter.

2ndly, our initial discourse was for me to answer one of the op's questions which I did. Then you moved to another topic. Then another. You will continue like this till you come to an argument I can't "answer" (in quote) before you are satisfied.

Please note I am not here to convince you about Christianity. I'm not a 'pentecostal'. I simply saw the falsity of the op's letter and decided to address it.
I have searched to see where you answered one of the OP's question,but I didn't see it....
Mind showing me?
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 4:22pm On Dec 07, 2014
philfearon:

I have searched to see where you answered one of the OP's question,but I didn't see it....
Mind showing me?
Seriously?

How did our discourse begin?

Na wa for you o.

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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 5:58pm On Dec 07, 2014
5minsmadness:

Seriously?

How did our discourse begin?

Na wa for you o.
Well,I remember telling you that that verse is the beginning of discordance in the bible which you didn't refute,but called "irrelevant"......
You didn't answer any of the OP's question bro....If am wrong,correct me!!
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by Nobody: 6:57pm On Dec 07, 2014
@Server if atheists dont believe in the existence of God that doesnt mean they dont believe that there are God's believer. So, since there are christains around atheists then atheists have to learn to belive there are belivers in GOD & therefore comminicate in a way closed to their belief.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 7:00pm On Dec 08, 2014
5minsmadness:

I am waiting for you bro...
Or your answers and excuses have dried up?
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 7:05am On Dec 09, 2014
philfearon:

I am waiting for you bro...
Or your answers and excuses have dried up?
That would console you wouldn't it? The feeling that no one has answers to your questions increases your faith that your belief in nothing is right? Lol.

I told you earlier bro. I am not one of those christians crying on my knees for your repentance or whatever. If after all this posts you cannot find the question I answered where you yourself said i research a lot, then it shows you have selectively chosen to be blinded to truth. And the only thing that can help you in such a situation is a supernatural experience. And that isn't my department anymore.

Adios amigo.

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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by honourhim: 7:23am On Dec 09, 2014
5minsmadness:

That would console you wouldn't it? The feeling that no one has answers to your questions increases your faith that your belief in nothing is right? Lol.

I told you earlier bro. I am not one of those christians crying on my knees for your repentance or whatever. If after all this posts you cannot find the question I answered where you yourself said i research a lot, then it shows you have selectively chosen to be blinded to truth. And the only thing that can help you in such a situation is a supernatural experience. And that isn't my department anymore.

Adios amigo.

God bless you bro. Sometimes why its good to answer these atheists is for the sake of the innocent souls out there reading their posts. When you don't counter them such souls might be deceived.
Personally I don't argue with them so as to convince them because all the atheists that I know that repented and came back to Jesus were through divine intervention. None repented by argument with christians. Its purely the work of the Holy spirit.

Pls be praying for them. Thanks dear.

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Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 7:37am On Dec 09, 2014
I see you frank317. Good morning sir.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 10:20am On Dec 09, 2014
5minsmadness:

That would console you wouldn't it? The feeling that no one has answers to your questions increases your faith that your belief in nothing is right? Lol.

I told you earlier bro. I am not one of those christians crying on my knees for your repentance or whatever. If after all this posts you cannot find the question I answered where you yourself said i research a lot, then it shows you have selectively chosen to be blinded to truth. And the only thing that can help you in such a situation is a supernatural experience. And that isn't my department anymore.

Adios amigo.
Lol...
Oh no bro,am not looking for any victory in this,I just want you to see reason with me just as you want me to see your point...
....
Secondly,my implying that you research a lot does not mean you answered the question..It only shows you have an idea about The Gen1vs1 and Gen1vs2,not that you understood it properly though..
Genesis has two Creations Account..In each of the Creations Account,The World was described as being Void before Yahweh created His two Favorite Beings(Adam and Eve)...
Mind You,in one of the two creations story Man and woman was created first before any other thing in a single day. ....while man was created last in the other story!!
You have to ask yourself:
1)Why was there two contradictory creation story?
2)Where did the other inhabitants come from?
It all leads back to the flaw in Gen1v1 and Gen1v2 ....Let me stop here!
So how did you answer the OP's question which I did not see in my being blinded to the truth?
Like I stated earlier,This is the point where you run away,bring up self-pitied excuses or ignore the thread entirely...
I didn't want to go into this cuz I know you can't answer it,And am right!!
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by philfearon(m): 10:22am On Dec 09, 2014
honourhim:


God bless you bro. Sometimes why its good to answer these atheists is for the sake of the innocent souls out there reading their posts. When you don't counter them such souls might be deceived.
Personally I don't argue with them so as to convince them because all the atheists that I know that repented and came back to Jesus were through divine intervention. None repented by argument with christians. Its purely the work of the Holy spirit.

Pls be praying for them. Thanks dear.
I have to laugh at this a zillion times....Probably the joke of the Year!!
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 10:50am On Dec 09, 2014
philfearon:

Lol...
Oh no bro,am not looking for any victory in this,I just want you to see reason with me just as you want me to see your point...
....
Secondly,my implying that you research a lot does not mean you answered the question..It only shows you have an idea about The Gen1vs1 and Gen1vs2,not that you understood it properly though..
Genesis has two Creations Account..In each of the Creations Account,The World was described as being Void before Yahweh created His two Favorite Beings(Adam and Eve)...
Mind You,in one of the two creations story Man and woman was created first before any other thing in a single day. ....while man was created last in the other story!!
You have to ask yourself:
1)Why was there two contradictory creation story?
2)Where did the other inhabitants come from?
It all leads back to the flaw in Gen1v1 and Gen1v2 ....Let me stop here!
So how did you answer the OP's question which I did not see in my being blinded to the truth?
Like I stated earlier,This is the point where you run away,bring up self-pitied excuses or ignore the thread entirely...
I didn't want to go into this cuz I know you can't answer it,And am right!!

Once again, you have chosen to not see what I wrote.

I never spoke on Gen 1:1 and 1:2.

I spoke on Gen 1:27 and Gen 2:8.

You are the one that brought up Gen1:1 and 1:2 of which I said it doesn't concern man.

You see if you continue with the mindset that you know it all you wont be able to learn anything new. Read my Cain answer again.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by 5minsmadness: 11:13am On Dec 09, 2014
philfearon:

Lol...
Oh no bro,am not looking for any victory in this,I just want you to see reason with me just as you want me to see your point...
....
Secondly,my implying that you research a lot does not mean you answered the question..It only shows you have an idea about The Gen1vs1 and Gen1vs2,not that you understood it properly though..
Genesis has two Creations Account..In each of the Creations Account,The World was described as being Void before Yahweh created His two Favorite Beings(Adam and Eve)...
Mind You,in one of the two creations story Man and woman was created first before any other thing in a single day. ....while man was created last in the other story!!
You have to ask yourself:
1)Why was there two contradictory creation story?
2)Where did the other inhabitants come from?
It all leads back to the flaw in Gen1v1 and Gen1v2 ....Let me stop here!
So how did you answer the OP's question which I did not see in my being blinded to the truth?
Like I stated earlier,This is the point where you run away,bring up self-pitied excuses or ignore the thread entirely...
I didn't want to go into this cuz I know you can't answer it,And am right!!

Oh and by the way, the reason you think there is a discrepancy is because you and a host of other folk interpreted it wrongly. It's a straightforward story which I will try and explain again in a nutshell for correctness sake.

The FIRST Creation account is the creation of the world.

The so called SECOND creation account is the creation of Eden.

Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 do not come into play here at all. That issue does not concern you as a human being neither does it concern your salvation if you want it.

Just take time out and Read from Gen 1:27, down to Gen 2. Realise that God had finished creating the world and all that was in it before he paid special attention to placing a man in the garden of Eden and animals for him to name and dominate. Adam wasn't the first man, but Adam represented mankind in that he was specially made and cared for by God.

I don't think I can explain it more than this.
Re: An Atheist's Letter To God. by zyzxx(m): 11:13am On Dec 09, 2014
obiZEAL:
Dear sir, I don't know if the
inhabitants of heaven share
the same time zone with us in
Africa. But since it's morning
over here, I say, good
morning sir.
How is Junior and his virgin
mama? I know Junior is
sitting on the right side of
your throne, but i don't know
who's sitting on your left side.
But whoever it is, extend my
greetings to everyone.
Sir, lots of things have been
puzzling me regarding your
existence, and since I don't
want to ''lean unto my own
understanding'' to solve this
puzzle, I do implore you to
bequest to me your
''spiritual understanding,'' as
panacea to this questions Sir.
I want to know where you
resided before you created
heaven?
Was Melchizedek with you
before you created heaven
and earth? We're told in the
bible that Melchizedek had no
father and mother; that he
had no beginning and end (an
attribute I hitherto thought
was your exclusive right)!
If he had no beginning and
end, how come we're told
Adam was the first man you
created?
You never even told us when
you created hell and the other
planets! You only mentioned
heaven and earth!
Your lordship sir, you said day
and night was created before
the Sun and Moon. How is this
possible sir? It beats me
hollow that you as an
almighty didn't even know
without the earth orbiting the
sun, there would be no day
and night!
You even created plants
before the sun! This is a joke
right? You also admonished
us to eat from every plant and
tree which yield seed!
Including poisonous plants
like Oleander, Night shade and
Hemlock?! You want us
poisoned?! You didn't say this,
did you? Sir, why did you keep
a forbidden fruit to tempt Mr
Adam And Mrs Eve when you
already knew they will eat
from the fruit since you are a
all-knowing God? This
bewilders me sir.
Why didn't you place your
'Angels' around the ''tree of
good and evil'' to prevent
them from eating the
forbidden fruit in the first
place! You forgot? Ohk!!
Regarding the ''curse of Eve,''
you promised every woman
would endure excruciating
child labor pain because of
Eve sin.
Sir! Why do female hyenas
face worse pain in labor than
even humans? Did they ate
forbidden meat or bones?
I'm not questioning your
motives sir, but you could
have done better, at least to
save us from this dramatic
quagmire! Oh! Lest I forget,
did that snake spoke Hebrew,
Arabic, or Aramaic language?
Every time I read the story of
Noah, I wonder how a
''merciful'' father like you
would drown innocent babies
and animals who never
offended you! That you didn't
even feel remorseful about it
makes me shudder!
Don't you think killing all
those innocent ones together
with the 'sinful ones' smacks
of burning a whole room to
kill mosquitoes?
You never told us the people
that were trying to kill Cain
after he killed his brother. You
placed a mark on him so that
people won't hurt him. Who
were these people, since only
three people were on earth
then? And... Where did Cain
get his wife?!
Solomon sacrificed 22,000
oxens and 120,000 sheeps to
you under one week! Sir, you
must be the greatest glutton
I've ever heard of!
I do agree that you're all-
powerful sir because you
create our world in six days!
But, how do I reconcile this
your omnipotence with your
inability to drive out the
inhabitants of the valley,
because they had chariots of
iron?!
If you couldn't defeat those
with 'chariots of iron', What
chance do you have against
our present generation with
high-tech defense shield,
missiles and nuclear
weapons?
you don't av d mind of ur own, infact u are confused.
how will u write a letter to God u don't believe he exist ?

U better accept d fact that God exist.

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