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Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody:
Anyone who says the only terrorists are Muslims are verified rétards.

The Ku Klux Klan is a Protestant terrorist group. The Christian Crusades are the most well known forceable religious conversion in HISTORY. The Nazis killed and tortured millions of Jews. Zionist Israel's invasion of Palestine. The list goes on. @Tinubu was kind enough to quote EXCERPTS FROM THE BIBLE that support extremist Christian terrorists.

Those people aren't "real" Christians, but the Muslim terrorists that get denounced by major Muslim leaders, are real Muslims.


The number and level of mórons in this thread defies belief.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Vikkie14: 1:35pm On Dec 24, 2014
Frankenstein:
Ideologically, the group is a syncretic mix of mysticism, Acholi nationalism, Islam, and Christian fundamentalism, and claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and local Acholi tradition.
Joseph Kony is not a Christian. He's only interested in installing theocracy according to the 10 commandments. He doesn't attend churches. He doesn't yell Jesus is lord before killing his enemies.
BUSTED. Seconded.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody:
Habiz:
prophet Muhammad did not kill anyone unjustifiable he did that for self-defense.
the same prophet left his hometown when the oppression is too much to a neighboring town Medina but still they came there to fight him..
well am not ready to argue about that now..did you know what is called the gospel of Barnabas..
well you may not know cuz the bible is in different form both 67 and that of 77 chapters but mind you no jinn or mankind can produce the like of Quran...have you come across any version? why can't the terror group create their own version?...
let us loom for solutions instead of arguing here
He killed justifiably...kul...Shekau thinks he is killing justifiably as well....The Quran was compiled as a book under the Caliph Uthman...with suras not chronologically arranged...that's why ur scholars
employ the Nasikh doctrine in interpreting......Allah call Jews the accursed and Christians the misguided...authorising u to strike their necks wherever u c dem
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Rexyl(m): 1:37pm On Dec 24, 2014
Tinubu:
are you for real... So the Old Testament is no longer part of the Bible? Since when did the Old Testament need support from the New Testament?

Please come up with a more plausible argument

Thanks
Your approaches are revealing you. If you have your way you will join the terrorists. Why will you disguise as a Christian with violent characters underneath. You are not a Christian. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT BEING A CHRISTIAN MEANS.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by meccuno: 1:39pm On Dec 24, 2014
Why would I come online expecting to see educative and informative posts and all I see is bad news? Islam again?? Had an argument with a muslim peep and he told me that the Koran is superior to the Nigerian Constitution. That was when I knew we are messed up as a nation. There is no day you won't hear about some one trying to cause mayhem or kill some body. Wonder if love your neighbours as yourself is even in their holy book.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody: 1:39pm On Dec 24, 2014
Frankenstein:
The people that murdered Christians in the north after the Danish cartoon, Where they Muslims or not?
The youths that razed houses and lynched non-muslims when Bonke planned to hold a crusade in the north, where they Muslims or not?
The people that attacked Christians when a woman allegedly named her dog Mohammed, where they Muslims or not?
Many years ago when Nigeria planned to host miss world pageant, a woman made a comment about Mohammed. The riots that ensued, who caused them; Muslims or not?

El Rufai once made a derogatory tweet about Jesus Christ, how many Muslims were killed?
Sheik Gummi said that Jesus Christ never rose from the dead, did you hear about riots and maiming in the south?

Islamic terrorism will never cease except Muslims accept responsibility and alter their archaic beliefs and attitudes. Your imams and the entire muslim ummar should preach tolerance and condemn every violent act perpetrated by Muslims no matter how little.
you also need to inform your clergymen to come up with the original bible not a Cooked up story to cover their acts then you will know what Christianity is all about.
you are talking about tolerance I can be it with you that Muslims are more tolerance than the Christians ,through my entire life I have being living with Christians but I know what they can do and undo.I attended a mission school I know the numerous oppressions I encounter with the christian fellow let not beat about the bush Muslims are more tolerance normally we have extremist like you also have.
let take it to politics Christians always come up with a lot of allegation when a Muslim is contesting for a post but know allegations when otherwise..if we should think that way did you think or believe a Christian will ever rule this country because am sure you are aware of Muslims christian population can you see tolerance!
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by McSpark: 1:41pm On Dec 24, 2014
So you should go die you murderer.
MudRaker:
80% of British Muslims support ISIS.

I like my Moslems the way I like coffee...




























I don't like coffee.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by ikweremilitant: 1:42pm On Dec 24, 2014
Tinubu:
I am not a Muslim... Actually I am a devout Christian.


But I strongly disagree with those who feel that Islam is a religion of terror.


When Christians were carrying out their crusades, crucifying and burning people at the stakes, no one totally classified them as terrorists.

The military conquest of the land of Canaan by the Hebrews in about 1200 B.C.E. is often characterized as "genocide" and has all but become emblematic of Biblical violence and intolerance.

God told Moses: But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them—the Hittite, Amorite, Canaanite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite—just as the Lord your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the Lord your God.

So Joshua [Moses' successor] conquered all the land: the mountain country and the South and the lowland and the wilderness slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining. (Deut. 20:16-18. Josh. 10:40)

In light of the above, why should Christians point to the Qur'an as evidence of Islam's violence while ignoring their own scriptures and history....

True, terrorism might seem to be exclusive to Muslims these days, but you don't adjudge a crate of eggs to be rotten simply because a few of the eggs are rotten.
As we have witnessed in Nigeria in the past few years, bombs and bullets do not differentiate between Christians and Muslims. There are no Muslim bombs or bullets. You stand in their way, you are dead irrespective of whether you are the Sultan of Sokoto or Pope John Paul.

Let us all stop passing the buck, and unite as one to fight it in its entirety.

PEACE IS ALL WE NEED



Copyright- Tinubu
i would have liked ur post but d fist line in d introduction nonsence of ur post.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Vikkie14: 1:42pm On Dec 24, 2014
Habiz:
you can check earlier post and see the list hmm if you can admit that Muslims are not the only terrorist they you have a long way to go about the current situation in the world.

LRA,ARMY OF GOD,....
I get your point but you can't be quoting what happened milleniums ago and says its relevant today. If those "christian terror cell" are your example, i think i have to believe they are no more in existence because, if they still are, then we should have being seeing counter- insurgency. BTW, your arguement sounds reasonable but they lack Stability. Those crusaders you mention are they of this century Bro?
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by samuelite40: 1:43pm On Dec 24, 2014
Holy Ghost fire!!!
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by thiefnubu(m): 1:44pm On Dec 24, 2014
Rexyl:
Your approaches are revealing you. If you have your way you can join the terrorists. Why will you disguise as a Christian with violent characters underneath. You are not a Christian. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT BEING A CHRISTIAN MEANS.
Attack the argument, not the arguer grin

If you have nothing reasonable to contribute, just shut up, take a seat, and watch the argument unfold...
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Cannonleo(m): 1:45pm On Dec 24, 2014
Vikkie14:
welcome back. Travelled or that recruit stuff make you more busy?
yep putting my stuffs in order..i took some time off the net to read some books(military and programming) and develop myself...for recruitment my uncle in the navy is pressurizing me to finish up my schooling then enlist for the airforce or join the navy but me and water no be friend grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by nora544: 1:46pm On Dec 24, 2014
ISIS recruit also in europa but the countries in europa work together so it is harder for ISIS to get new members in europa.

ISIS they need more fighters.

ISIS is the product what america has done in IRAk

ISIS are the fighters from sadam hussain who are sunny because after the death of sadam they lose their jobs in the army.

That we have this terorist is a product from america.

I just hear yesterday that Bush know that Sadam has nothing to do with al quaida but they need an enemie for the 11 of September.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Fash20: 1:47pm On Dec 24, 2014
kristisking:
No wonder the millitias in the central Africa Republic want to get rid of muslims in that country.This is not to say that the action of the millitias is right but when you critically look at what is going on now not only in the middle east,Africa,Asia,Europe inclusive,you will come to realise that any region islam has considerable number of followers,that region will know no peace.Nigeria has bokoharam to contend with,Kenya,Sudan,Mali,Somalia are in war with rebbles,alshababs and the rest.Tuaregs,Isil,alkaeda kundis have held middle east hostage.This has further proved that there is more to islam than meets the eye.The world would have been a better place without islam.
Are you lame to do something about it? huh
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody: 1:47pm On Dec 24, 2014
Habiz:
you also need to inform your clergymen to come up with the original bible not a Cooked up story to cover their acts then you will know what Christianity is all about.
you are talking about tolerance I can be it with you that Muslims are more tolerance than the Christians ,through my entire life I have being living with Christians but I know what they can do and undo.I attended a mission school I know the numerous oppressions I encounter with the christian fellow let not beat about the bush Muslims are more tolerance normally we have extremist like you also have.
let take it to politics Christians always come up with a lot of allegation when a Muslim is contesting for a post but know allegations when otherwise..if we should think that way did you think or believe a Christian will ever rule this country because am sure you are aware of Muslims christian population can you see tolerance!
"Original Bible" strange. It depends on who worship. Am sure u don't worship The Holy One Of Israel That Never Sleeps Nor Slumbers ( Yahweh).....He never Addressed Himself as The Great Deceiver....
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody: 1:48pm On Dec 24, 2014
RuxyG:
He killed justifiably...kul...Shekau thinks he is killing justifiably as well....The Quran was compiled as a book under the Caliph Uthman...with suras not chronologically arranged...that's why ur scholars
employ the Nasikh doctrine in interpreting......Allah calls Jews the accursed and Christians the misguided...authorising u to strike their necks wherever u c dem
why can't another caliphate come up with his own Quran that we have just a unique one,no versions but the proclaimed book with real revelations have different version and we are contemplating on the one to believe ...if you don't know about something do mark remark I think Christianity preaches that.

(matt.27:44 and luke23:39-40, matt.1:16 and Luke 3:23 ) am always confused and they are in the same new testament.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Frankenstein: 1:48pm On Dec 24, 2014
Habiz:
you also need to inform your clergymen to come up with the original bible not a Cooked up story to cover their acts then you will know what Christianity is all about.
you are talking about tolerance I can be it with you that Muslims are more tolerance than the Christians ,through my entire life I have being living with Christians but I know what they can do and undo.I attended a mission school I know the numerous oppressions I encounter with the christian fellow let not beat about the bush Muslims are more tolerance normally we have extremist like you also have.
let take it to politics Christians always come up with a lot of allegation when a Muslim is contesting for a post but know allegations when otherwise..if we should think that way did you think or believe a Christian will ever rule this country because am sure you are aware of Muslims christian population can you see tolerance!
Rubbish! How many times have you heard about Christians killing Muslims because of their religion?
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by thiefnubu(m): 1:48pm On Dec 24, 2014
ikweremilitant:
i would have liked ur post but d fist line in d introduction nonsence of ur post.
your likes are needless... See how many likes it already has... You have been outvoted grin

Your moniker tho


People like you still have the nerve to call Muslims terrorists.... angry

*in Tupac's voice*

ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE..
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Rexyl(m):
Tinubu:
Attack the argument, not the arguer grin

If you have nothing reasonable to contribute, just shut up, take a seat, and watch the argument unfold...
Tinubu... see your reaction to a small banana thrown at you. You have already proved yourself beyond reasonable doubt that you are a big lair.

I haven't seen any reasonable fact in your arguments

Let me attack your argument by asking who do you understand Christ to be, or your knowledge of him? And why linking gospel with terrorism?
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Vikkie14: 1:54pm On Dec 24, 2014
Cannonleo:
yep putting my stuffs in order..i took some time off the net to read some books(military and programming) and develop myself...for recruitment my uncle in the navy is pressurizing me to finish up my schooling then enlist for the airforce or join the navy but me and water no be friend grin grin grin grin grin grin
grin same as me. So Air you go right? And that books you are reading can i get that stuff too, maybe the name of those books. The forum is too sensitive, just email me and i will respond.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody:
Habiz:
why can't another caliphate come up with his own Quran that we have just a unique one,no versions but the proclaimed book with real revelations have different version and we are contemplating on the one to believe ...if you don't know about something do mark remark I think Christianity preaches that.

(matt.27:44 and luke23:39-40, matt.1:16 and Luke 3:23 ) am always confused and they are in the same new testament.
Interesting.....yet ur scholars employ al-nasikh al wal mansoukh to interpret d Koran.....y do dey Medinan verses abrogate the Meccan verses?....y do u have daralharb(house of war, for non-muslims, Whr u r commanded to bring dem to submission by any means)...and dar al Islam (house of peace, for Muslims)........am sure d verses u quoted have contexts..follow dem...overall, where is the Muslim Prophet right nw?
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Cannonleo(m): 2:01pm On Dec 24, 2014
Cannonleo:
yep putting my stuffs in order..i took some time off the net to read some books(military and programming) and develop myself...for recruitment my uncle in the navy is pressurizing me to finish up my schooling then enlist for the airforce or join the navy but me and water no be friend grin grin grin grin grin grin
howfar u now Vikkie14
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody: 2:03pm On Dec 24, 2014
Vikkie14:
I get your point but you can't be quoting what happened milleniums ago and says its relevant today. If those "christian terror cell" are your example, i think i have to believe they are no more in existence because, if they still are, then we should have being seeing counter- insurgency. BTW, your arguement sounds reasonable but they lack Stability. Those crusaders you mention are they of this century Bro?
yea ,LRA is still terrorizing the Ugandans
that why I said we should look for solution because this bokoguys are ruthless and they don't have a reason for their acts..no dialogue nothing they have no agenda or mission rather being use by politicians or ruthless fellow to tackle the peace in Nigeria in the name of religion.. bokoharam stop in 2009 when Muhammad yussuf was killed he never mention any shekau as his deputy or assistance.
who should rather venture into
who is sponsoring them?where did they get their ammunitions, how did they transport it with large vehicle without passing any security post.if we can't tackle the problem of HOW,WHEN,WHERE AND WHY we can't overcome this insurgency because we are here arguing and blaming religion on it if we don't desist this act hmmmm I don't know the outcome..when the north is wipeout who know the next region?
shekau can't tell us his reason and he cannot even justify his act by a single verse in the Quran..
Less I forget the media is also part of the problem.it is what they want us to hear that we hear they should do their job diligently and stop spread rumors or allegation without genuine evidence.
nairalanders how many of you can boost of understanding the Arabic ? can speak or translate clearly? is it not what the media translate to you that you heed and follow without researching on your own...

peace brothers and sisters let stop this pointless argument and find a better solution

shalom
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Vikkie14: 2:06pm On Dec 24, 2014
Habiz:
why can't another caliphate come up with his own Quran that we have just a unique one,no versions
is that not why there are so many Terror cells today? Some cant even understand the quran because its written in arabic. Why are there no english version of the book if not that they are shielding something from us. Be plain. You are able to quote the bible because it has been written in many languages and easy versions for EVERYONE to read.
but the proclaimed book with real revelations have different version and we are contemplating on the one to believe
You can choose the one you wish to believe. BTW can you quote what one version says and what the others doesnt?
...if you don't know about something do mark remark I think Christianity preaches that.

(matt.27:44 and luke23:39-40, matt.1:16 and Luke 3:23 ) am always confused and they are in the same new testament.
You will be sincerely confused because you cant interpret the Bible with human thinking. You need the Holy Spirit to interpret that to you. The things of the flesh can't understand that of the spirit Bro.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by nora544: 2:07pm On Dec 24, 2014
MissMeiya:
Anyone who says the only terrorists are Muslims are verified rétards.

The Ku Klux Klan is a Protestant terrorist group. The Christian Crusades are the most well known forceable religious conversion in HISTORY. The Nazis killed and tortured millions of Jews. Zionist Israel's invasion of Palestine. The list goes on. @Tinubu was kind enough to quote EXCERPTS FROM THE BIBLE that support extremist Christian terrorists.

Those people aren't "real" Christians, but the Muslim terrorists that get denounced by major Muslim leaders, are real Muslims.


The number and level of mórons in this thread defies belief.
Sorry but the Nazis have nothing to do with religion.

Hitler told his followers religion is private and christians under the nazis had a hard time.
On sunday young people could go to the church or to the Hitler youth and both was at the same time.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody: 2:09pm On Dec 24, 2014
RuxyG:
Interesting.....yet ur scholars employ al-nasikh al wal mansoukh to interpret d Koran.....y do dey Medinan verses abrogate the Meccan verses?....y do u have darhal (house of war, for non-muslims, Whr u r commanded to bring dem to submission by any means)...and dar al Islam (house of peace, for Muslims)........am sure d verses u quoted have contexts..follow dem...overall, where is the Muslim Prophet right nw?
I don't need to argue with you further because you seems like someine that is brainwashed. you have no knowledge of what you are talking about,you know nothing about islam

1 john 4:1-6
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by chocmanne(m): 2:09pm On Dec 24, 2014
MudRaker:
ISIS enjoys widespread support in Osun and Kwara.
And what do u mean by dt
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by chocmanne(m): 2:10pm On Dec 24, 2014
MudRaker:
ISIS enjoys widespread support in Osun and Kwara.
try to buttress ur point!
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Vikkie14: 2:12pm On Dec 24, 2014
Habiz:
yea ,LRA is still terrorizing the Ugandans
that why I said we should look for solution because this bokoguys are ruthless and they don't have a reason for their acts..no dialogue nothing they have no agenda or mission rather being use by politicians or ruthless fellow to tackle the peace in Nigeria in the name of religion.. bokoharam stop in 2009 when Muhammad yussuf was killed he never mention any shekau as his deputy or assistance.
who should rather venture into
who is sponsoring them?where did they get their ammunitions, how did they transport it with large vehicle without passing any security post.if we can't tackle the problem of HOW,WHEN,WHERE AND WHY we can't overcome this insurgency because we are here arguing and blaming religion on it if we don't desist this act hmmmm I don't know the outcome..when the north is wipeout who know the next region?
shekau can't tell us his reason and he cannot even justify his act by a single verse in the Quran..
Less I forget the media is also part of the problem.it is what they want us to hear that we hear they should do their job diligently and stop spread rumors or allegation without genuine evidence.
nairalanders how many of you can boost of understanding the Arabic ? can speak or translate clearly? is it not what the media translate to you that you heed and follow without researching on your own...

peace brothers and sisters let stop this pointless argument and find a better solution

shalom
Exactly. We are arguing but not working toward a solution. But you know we have to Disagree so we would Agree. Sensible comment. We are just blaming each other without any provision of the way out.

***ShakesHand
#Peace
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Vikkie14: 2:18pm On Dec 24, 2014
Cannonleo:
howfar u now Vikkie14
Am good. I may have drop my digit down or my mail if not that we are on a porous and highly publicised forum.
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Cannonleo(m): 2:21pm On Dec 24, 2014
Vikkie14:
Am good. I may have drop my digit down or my mail if not that we are on a porous and highly publicised forum.
u sabi now..anyway i will find a way for us to communicate in a while sha no worry
Re: FG: ISIS In Nigeria To Recruit Fighters by Nobody: 2:22pm On Dec 24, 2014
Tinubu:
I am not a Muslim... Actually I am a devout Christian.


But I strongly disagree with those who feel that Islam is a religion of terror.


When Christians were carrying out their crusades, crucifying and burning people at the stakes, no one totally classified them as terrorists.

The military conquest of the land of Canaan by the Hebrews in about 1200 B.C.E. is often characterized as "genocide" and has all but become emblematic of Biblical violence and intolerance.

God told Moses: But of the cities of these peoples which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance, you shall let nothing that breathes remain alive, but you shall utterly destroy them—the Hittite, Amorite, Canaanite, Perizzite, Hivite, and Jebusite—just as the Lord your God has commanded you, lest they teach you to do according to all their abominations which they have done for their gods, and you sin against the Lord your God.

So Joshua [Moses' successor] conquered all the land: the mountain country and the South and the lowland and the wilderness slopes, and all their kings; he left none remaining. (Deut. 20:16-18. Josh. 10:40)

In light of the above, why should Christians point to the Qur'an as evidence of Islam's violence while ignoring their own scriptures and history....

True, terrorism might seem to be exclusive to Muslims these days, but you don't adjudge a crate of eggs to be rotten simply because a few of the eggs are rotten.
As we have witnessed in Nigeria in the past few years, bombs and bullets do not differentiate between Christians and Muslims. There are no Muslim bombs or bullets. You stand in their way, you are dead irrespective of whether you are the Sultan of Sokoto or Pope John Paul.

Let us all stop passing the buck, and unite as one to fight it in its entirety.

PEACE IS ALL WE NEED



Copyright- Tinubu
you talk like you are making sense but obviously u are not... Why compare what happened in 1200BCE with what's happening now in this well civilize era? am not saying that all Moslems are terrorist but let the true be said, The religion has some dangerous loopholes which some unwise believers among them interpret wrongly as an instruction frm Allah to go and kill all infidel (non-muslems ) , which they call a holy war. And they have the believe that if they die in the battle field , a big party will be held for them by allah in heaven , with 7 virgin waiting for them.
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