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LouisVanGaal:
Bros, u r damn right! I remembered that stunt from trump..and Obama played on..until d last minute b4 he released it! Had he released it earlier enuf, trump nd the republicans ud hav quickly jumped to another propaganda to smear his name(obama) b4 that 2008 elections...

So, I guess that's what GMB might be nursing...

nduchucks:
Your points are well taken.

However, as a practical matter, there are no grounds for any legal proceedings against Buhari on the basis of this affidavit. Buhari has done nothing illegal and neither has INEC. Any related lawsuit will be summarily tossed out as frivolous. If you believe otherwise, let us know what the legal grounds for such a lawsuit would be.

This statement by Attorney General Lai Mohammed is quite instructive.

nduchucks:
Your points are well taken.

However, as a practical matter, there are no grounds for any legal proceedings against Buhari on the basis of this affidavit. Buhari has done nothing illegal and neither has INEC. Any related lawsuit will be summarily tossed out as frivolous. If you believe otherwise, let us know what the legal grounds for such a lawsuit would be.

omenka:
Like I said in the thread, what the government would trigger by tinkering with such an idea would make the subsidy protests look like new yam festival in some rural settlement. Nigerians will arise and take what is duly theirs for good.

Whether they like it or not, Jonathan isn't getting a coronation on valentine's day like he did in Eagle's Square last year. I hate it when supposed "men" are always looking for ways to dodge contests. What glory is there in victory that wasn't fought for but handed on a silver plater?? He has dodged debates and elections in the past, he's not getting that this time.

Demdem:
@ Topic,

Nop, the military didn't. Only Jonathan cocck suckers think they did.

barcanista:
Bros, the General have sworn affidavit and he was specific with his claim. The so-called source of that thread was who? I can say Obinoscopy is a gay according to an informed source who was once his gay partner (lol kidding). I had expected doubters and enquirers to petition the Defense Headquarters to confirm if truly the documents are with them or not. I appeal to anybody that feels Buhari lied under oath to go to court and compel the AGF to charge him for pejury. However, I am 200% sure that they have no case against Buhari

Montaque:
its perjury to lie on oath. If its true that the Military board secretary is not in possession of the said certificate,its perjury.
INEC's legal department and even the AG federation can maintain an action for perjury against him.
And if he ends up not presenting any school certificate as stipulated by section 131(1) of the CFRN,that a bigger issue,cos he is thereby not qualified.
I wish they find the said certificate,GEJ won't have it this easy.

barcanista:
Oga Demdem, Happy New Year to you!

lekkie073:
Yes
Reason objectively....
Why didn't obj during his time make such pronouncements that his certificates are with the military board
Why would GMB refer to a non existent office? Secretary of the military board. Military don't use such titles in the hierarchy structure

Why would the military in the first place be in possession of his original certificates

The truth will soon be out.
In the meantime tell tinubu to show GMB the way to Toronto .......maybe they can as well get GMB one too

Obinoscopy:
The legal proceeding would be that Buhari lied to the court (perjury) by saying his credentials are with the Military. If the military fail to present his credentials during the legal proceeding, then Buhari is fried.

This is my theory: Buhari couldn't find his credentials. He then tried getting a photocopy from his file in the Military. The Military, just like the typical government agency who don't have a good record keeping tradition, realised that they can't even find Buhari's photocopies. Thus Buhari and the APC decided to put the blame on the Military by swearing an affidavit indicting the Military of being in custody of his credentials. What Buhari fail to realise is that the Military will always want to absolve itself of any blame. And they could do that by denying ever being with Buhari's credentials. And if they do that, it means Buhari has committed perjury.

Demdem:

Point of correction. The Generals certificate isn't lost.

Obinoscopy:
If the Military don't come out to accept being in custody of Buhari's credentials or if Buhari don't present his credentials to INEC himself, be rest assured that there will be enough grounds for litigations. Note: I said litigations, not litigation.

In otherwords, u think the military has misplaced the Generals credentials in their disposal right?
This is surely another good reason to heap curses on the CinC under his watch the military can be so useless both at the Battle front and even in the office.
Let the litigations begin biko, it will keep the enemy busy.

Obinoscopy:
If the Military don't come out to accept being in custody of Buhari's credentials or if Buhari don't present his credentials to INEC himself, be rest assured that there will be enough grounds for litigations. Note: I said litigations, not litigation.

Demdem:

In otherwords, u think the military has misplaced the Generals credentials in their disposal right?
This is surely another good reason to heap curses on the CinC under his watch the military can be so useless both at the Battle front and even in the office.
Let the litigations begin biko, it will keep the enemy busy.

nduchucks:
That perjury case would be impossible to prove, if it ever gets to court. For obvious reasons, individuals cannot bring a criminal case of perjury against Buhari, and I don't see how any law enforcement authority will bring such a charge, in the current political climate.

This issue is a mere distraction from dealing with more important issues which should be addressed by both GEJ and Buhari. We, as a country will suffer for this irresponsible act of distraction.

My own theory is that Buhari's certificate has been lost by the authorities for quite some time. However, the certificate is not an issue because you don't get to rise to the position of a General, successfully pass through several millirary courses (some at the master's level), in Nigeria and abroad, if you do not have the qualifications reflected on the said certificate.

We should be holding Buhari's feet to the fire by demanding that he shares his vision for Nigeria with us in more details, instead of wasting time on this certificate saga. We already know that GEJ is a failure.

Montaque:
An individual can bring a suit against GMB on this issue,it has its procedures.
If u want us to forget this distraction, you might as well toil with constitutional criteria,and it doesn't speak well for the polity.
If he has the certificate required,he should tender it,that's the law.
Let's not make excuses for him, we experience this when looking for employment,unless you runz it,which is corruption

barcanista:
Jonathaaaaaaaaan ooooooo

Yes ke....
I love it whenever I use Jonathanians words to hit them real hard.
If military misplaced Buhari's credentials, who else should we criticise if not CinC Jonathan himself under whose watch these guys have suddenly become incompetent in all areas. Ordinary paper, they simply can't keep again.

Demdem:

In otherwords, u think the military has misplaced the Generals credentials in their disposal right?
This is surely another good reason to heap curses on the CinC under his watch the military can be so useless both at the Battle front and even in the office.
Let the litigations begin biko, it will keep the enemy busy.

nduchucks:
I don't think an individual can bring a criminal case against anyone, only law enforcement bodies can do that.

Montaque:
we must always have somebody to blame, Nigerians and enemy mentality.

nduchucks:
That perjury case would be impossible to prove, if it ever gets to court.

For obvious reasons, individuals cannot bring a criminal case of perjury against Buhari, and I don't see how any law enforcement authority will bring such a charge, in the current political climate.

This issue is a mere distraction from dealing with more important issues which should be addressed by both GEJ and Buhari. We, as a country will suffer for this irresponsible act of distraction.

My own theory is that Buhari's certificate has been lost by the authorities for quite some time. However, the certificate is not an issue because you don't get to rise to the position of a General, successfully pass through several millirary courses (some at the master's level), in Nigeria and abroad, if you do not have the qualifications reflected on the said certificate.

We should be holding Buhari's feet to the fire by demanding that he shares his vision for Nigeria with us in more details, instead of wasting time on this certificate saga. We already know that GEJ is a failure.

barcanista:
This thread https://www.nairaland.com/2073341/not-buharis-original-copies-certificates purportedly claimed that the Military denied knowledge of Muhammadu Buhari's certificate with the secretary of the board. On reading the whole article, neither the Director of Military Information nor the Director of Army Information nor any other senior official of the military was quoted. The reporter only reported "according to our source". It begs one to ask this important question "Who is this source?"

The Nigeria Army is not a secret organisation, they have their official spokespeople who are in the best position to ascertain the veracity or otherwise of Muhammadu Buhari's claim. Buhari swore an affidavit to back his claim, it is the responsibility of political opponents and critics to probe further and petition the Nigeria Military board and the Presidency to confirm whether or not the certificates are with the Military. Why all these assassination of the character of the amiable general by some inconsequential elements and never-do-wells? For the record, Buhari or any other Presidential candidate is not mandated by law to display their credentials to the public, political parties are legally mandated to screen their candidates before presenting them to INEC. I am 100% sure that the All Progressive Congress have screened Muhammadu Buhari and have verified his claims before the presenting to INEC. Whoever is in doubt should petition the National Secretariat of APC or should go to court if unsatisfied. No amount of propaganda will deter the nigeria masses from thumb-printing for the general and APC in February.


#God Bless The General

LRNZH:
Maybe you assume that I will not read through your links. Even Collynzo9 won't present these.

It is obvious you still don't get the clear (but obviously moot to you) point that, I'm making.

Again, a newspaper house can quote sources like Sahara Reporters has done in all three links. But they do not attribute statement to authority.

You cannot interview and insider in an organisation and turn around to claim that his statements represent the views of the organisation, unless he is authorised to speak on the matter. Unlike Vanguard who attributes he statement by a source to the whole Army.

The Military Board official spokesperson is yet to give us an official statement on this matter.

Phew! I hope I don't not to explain this again.

tola9ja:
2015 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION RESULT
(PREDICTION)

SOUTH EAST
Enugu ............ Jonathan. 1,301,185
Ebonyi ........... Jonathan. 876,248
Anambra ........ Jonathan. 1,758,219
Imo. ................ Buhari. 1,611,715
Abia ................ Jonathan. 1,481,189
TOTAL: Jonathan : 5,416,843
Buhari: 1,611,715

SOUTH WEST
Ogun .............. Buhari. 1,869,324
Osun .............. Buhari. 1,293,967
Lagos ............. Buhari. 6,247,845
Ondo. ............ Jonathan. 1,557,973
Ekiti ............... Jonathan. 368,221
Oyo ................ Buhari. 2,577,490
TOTAL: BUHARI: 12,239,381
Jonathan: 2,228,975

SOUTH SOUTH
Edo ............ Buhari. 1,412,222
Delta .......... Jonathan. 1,900,055
Bayelsa. ...... Jonathan. 472,102
Akwa Ib ....... Jonathan. 1,714,781
Rivers. ......... Buhari. 2,419,058
C/Rivers ....... Jonathan. 1,018,550
TOTAL: BUHARI: 3,831,282
Jonathan: 5,105,687

NORTH CENTRAL
Benue .......... Jonathan. 1,415,162
Kogi. ............ Jonathan. 1,215,405
Kwara ........... Buhari. 1,115,665
Nasarawa ..... Buhari. 1,224,206
Niger. ............ Buhari. 721,478
Plateau .......... Jonathan. 1,983,453
TOTAL: BUHARI: 3,061,349
Jonathan: 4,614,020

NORTH EAST
Adamawa. .............. Buhari. 1,714,860
Bauchi. ................... Buhari. 1,835,562
Borno. ...................... Buhari.
2,730,368
Gombe. ..................... Buhari.
1,266,993
Taraba. ..................... Jonathan.
1,308,106
Yobe. ......................... Buhari.
1,182,230
TOTAL: BUHARI: 8,730,013
Jonathan: 1,308,106

NORTH WEST
Jigawa. ........... Buhari. 1,852,698
Kano. ............... Buhari. 5,135,415
Katsina. ........... Buhari. 2,931,668
Kadunna. ......... Buhari. 3,565,762
Kebbi. .............. Buhari. 1,603,468
Sokoto. ............. Buhari. 2,165,508
Zamfara. ........... Buhari. 1,746,024
TOTAL: BUHARI: 18,900,643
Jonathan: 12,203

GENERAL TOTAL: BUHARI: 48, 874, 389.
(WINNER)
Jonathan: 18, 103, 721

May almighty God grant Nigeria this
result come Feb 14, 2015.
Type AMEN if you are in support of this
mega change?

Demdem:

If peeps do not pay for their incompetence, how will others learn? In my world, all forms of failure are frowned out.
If heads don't row within the military because some goons choose not to do their paid job, why should the CinC be excused?

Demdem:

These fools have refused to accept that General Buhari current handlers are far wiser than the okupes, Abati, omokris of these world. And of recent, the randy ffk.
Surely, the time for change is now.

Montaque:
[s]hahahaha, sorry you have been deceived. Infact you are charging in Buhari's electric socket.
Please disconnect urself.[/s]

Senseless.


Yes,somebody must pay for this,and the person looking for employment shud bear his cross,that what employers do.


Inec is the vehicle backed by law through which the job will be secured. Has Inec raised any objection so far?
What part of the law of the land has been breached so far?
Use ur brain bro.

Demdem:

Yes ke....
I love it whenever I use Jonathanians words to hit them real hard.
If military misplaced Buhari's credentials, who else should we criticise if not CinC Jonathan himself under whose watch these guys have suddenly become incompetent in all areas. Ordinary paper, they simply can't keep again.