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Re: A Thread For Catholics by Rich4god(m): 7:36pm On Jan 02, 2015
jnrbayano:
Check page 282
You no fit ask for number...
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 9:17pm On Jan 02, 2015
Rich4god:
You no fit ask for number...
That was enough bro. I don't expect her paste her digits here.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 6:18pm On Jan 04, 2015
Rich4god:
I what to know what is the church's stand on swearing. I was in my villa for the xmas, I happened to witness where a man was asked to swear with the sand of his sisters grave, that he has no hand in the death of the sister. A priest was there and he gave the man the go ahead to do the swearing. So, what the church's stand on this issue...


CC: Italo, Ubenedictuc, babestell, Salc, stryk and co...
This one be like say e pass me o,
Italo, Ubenedictus, Striktlymi babestell, Jnrbayano please help out, I want to know too.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 6:19pm On Jan 04, 2015
Syncan ....
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 6:20pm On Jan 04, 2015
damerry:
Yesss. smiley smiley smiley

Almost missed this. Didn't get a mention notification.
Where have you been?
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 6:21pm On Jan 04, 2015
jnrbayano:
I did, albeit subtly.

To visit someone one requires an address and a contact point. I had/have none.

So you see?
Let "no more subtle questions" be part of your new year resolution tongue
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 6:39pm On Jan 04, 2015
SalC:
Let "no more subtle questions" be part of your new year resolution tongue
Pls teach me how not to be subtle in asking questions smiley
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 6:50pm On Jan 04, 2015
jnrbayano:
Pls teach me how not to be subtle in asking questions smiley
Just say it the way it is wink
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 6:54pm On Jan 04, 2015
SalC:
Just say it the way it is wink
Example? cheesy
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jan 04, 2015
Rich4god:
I what to know what is the church's stand on swearing. I was in my villa for the xmas, I happened to witness where a man was asked to swear with the sand of his sisters grave, that he has no hand in the death of the sister. A priest was there and he gave the man the go ahead to do the swearing. So, what the church's stand on this issue...
Um what you described is a form of oath taking. It has the semblance of an assertory or affirmative oath where one calls on God to witness to a present or past fact.

In principle, the Church is not against oath taken when it is done seriously. Matter of fact, the Church actually holds oath taken in high regard since it gives credence to the omnipotence of his divine majesty.

Oaths can be taken directly where one swears by God or calls on God to act as a witness or implicitly when one swears by the creatures instead of the creator.

The case you described is an example of an implicit oath. Implicit oaths aren't wrong if done right. What's important here is that one does not lose sight of the creator when using the created as the object of the oath taken.

The above may seem to contradict Matthew 5:34-36 but that is a different matter. No time to explain this.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by makhez019(m): 7:03pm On Jan 04, 2015
Am a catholic, and I nid catholic frnds male and female, email me make we hook up!
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:05pm On Jan 04, 2015
jnrbayano:
Example? cheesy
MG please can I have the address or your number?

^^good example tongue
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:07pm On Jan 04, 2015
makhez019:
Am a catholic, and I nid catholic frnds male and female, email me make we hook up!
Welcome, just come around often, here you don't just make friends, you have a family.
Welcome once again and happy new year smiley
Re: A Thread For Catholics by makhez019(m): 7:12pm On Jan 04, 2015
SalC:
Welcome, just come around often, here you don't just make friends, you have a family.
Welcome once again and happy new year smiley
oh no! Don't tell me ya a male, if na man welcome me I don hear am, we shld ve thread warden here and me wanna me d sacristian. grin
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:19pm On Jan 04, 2015
makhez019:
oh no! Don't tell me ya a male, if na man welcome me I don hear am, we shld ve thread warden here and me wanna me d sacristian. grin
Lol does it matter who welcomes you? Yeah you can be the sacristan smiley
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 7:20pm On Jan 04, 2015
SalC:
MG please can I have the address or your number?

^^good example tongue
Alright cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:38pm On Jan 04, 2015
jnrbayano:
Alright cheesy cheesy cheesy
is it? grin
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Rich4god(m): 7:49pm On Jan 04, 2015
SalC:
This one be like say e pass me o,
Italo, Ubenedictus, Striktlymi babestell, Jnrbayano please help out, I want to know too.
Hmmm... Almighty Salc calling for help tongue
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Rich4god(m): 7:57pm On Jan 04, 2015
Thanks striktlymi
The case you described is an example of an implicit oath. Implicit oaths aren't wrong if done right. What's important here is that one does not lose sight of the creator when using the created as the object of the oath taken.
How do I know when its done right/wrong... And from what I could hear that day, they man was swearing with the sand and not God.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by damerry(m): 8:21pm On Jan 04, 2015
SalC:
Where have you been?
I've been around conservatively.
Happy new year.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 8:23pm On Jan 04, 2015
Rich4god:
Thanks striktlymi How do I know when its done right/wrong... And from what I could hear that day, they man was swearing with the sand and not God.
'Swearing' by the creature is not necessarily wrong. It would be wrong though if it is done such that the creature is seen as an 'end' in itself.

For instance, if one goes to a shrine to swear. Though a creature but this does not glorify God in any way. The case you present may be wrong depending on the disposition of the individual.

If the individual oath taker did it such that he holds strong some pagan beliefs then it would be wrong but this is not saying that every implicit oath is wrong.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Lovethywilbedon: 9:27pm On Jan 04, 2015
Happy new year to all. Just saying hi after many months of absence.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Ubenedictus(m): 1:16am On Jan 05, 2015
Rich4god:
I what to know what is the church's stand on swearing. I was in my villa for the xmas, I happened to witness where a man was asked to swear with the sand of his sisters grave, that he has no hand in the death of the sister. A priest was there and he gave the man the go ahead to do the swearing. So, what the church's stand on this issue...


CC: Italo, Ubenedictuc, babestell, Salc, stryk and co...
the church allows swearing, like the one they do in court, but the case you described is rather disturbing, that seems superstitous and fetish. To such cases i'll rather advise "let your yes be yes and your no be no, anything else comes from the evil one".
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 5:33am On Jan 05, 2015
damerry:
I've been around conservatively.
Happy new year.
Lol good. Happy new year
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 11:29am On Jan 05, 2015
Hello Everyone, Good to be part of this family.
I'm humbled to be a Catholic.

I am currently having big misunderstanding in my relationship right now.
My Guy was a Catholic(baptized And confirmed) until he left for RCCG in 2012( to rekindle his spiritual Life as he said).
we are compatible in other aspects of our relationship Except the church we worship.
Right now he stands on his ground that he's Not coming back to the church And he won't let me be Where I am.
I love him, But for me I'm Not leaving the Catholic church For anybody Not even my parents.

Please I need your kind advice. Thanks
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 11:42am On Jan 05, 2015
deracathy:
Hello Everyone, Good to be part of this family.
I'm humbled to be a Catholic.

I am currently having big misunderstanding in my relationship right now.
My Guy was a Catholic(baptized And confirmed) until he left for RCCG in 2012( to rekindle his spiritual Life as he said).
we are compatible in other aspects of our relationship Except the church we worship.
Right now he stands on his ground that he's Not coming back to the church And he won't let me be Where I am.
I love him, But for me I'm Not leaving the Catholic church For anybody Not even my parents.

Please I need your kind advice. Thanks
Sometimes you love someone by letting him/her go. You had your catholic faith before he came along. He will come around if he's yours.

The bold is my advice to you.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 11:54am On Jan 05, 2015
SalC:
This one be like say e pass me o,
Italo, Ubenedictus, Striktlymi babestell, Jnrbayano please help out, I want to know too.
I don't know where a good oath/swearing stops and bad one begins, for this reason, I wouldn't wanna perform the act no matter the circumstance.

As for the Church stance, I don't know.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 12:45pm On Jan 05, 2015
Hmmmm. Ok
Noted, Thanks very much.
jnrbayano:
Sometimes you love someone by letting him/her go. You had your catholic faith before he came along. He will come around if he's yours.
The bold is my advice to you.
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 12:53pm On Jan 05, 2015
deracathy:
Hello Everyone, Good to be part of this family.
I'm humbled to be a Catholic.

I am currently having big misunderstanding in my relationship right now.
My Guy was a Catholic(baptized And confirmed) until he left for RCCG in 2012( to rekindle his spiritual Life as he said).
we are compatible in other aspects of our relationship Except the church we worship.
Right now he stands on his ground that he's Not coming back to the church And he won't let me be Where I am.
I love him, But for me I'm Not leaving the Catholic church For anybody Not even my parents.

Please I need your kind advice. Thanks
Looks like your mind is made up already
Re: A Thread For Catholics by italo: 12:54pm On Jan 05, 2015
deracathy:
Hello Everyone, Good to be part of this family.
I'm humbled to be a Catholic.

I am currently having big misunderstanding in my relationship right now.
My Guy was a Catholic(baptized And confirmed) until he left for RCCG in 2012( to rekindle his spiritual Life as he said).
we are compatible in other aspects of our relationship Except the church we worship.
Right now he stands on his ground that he's Not coming back to the church And he won't let me be Where I am.
I love him, But for me I'm Not leaving the Catholic church For anybody Not even my parents.

Please I need your kind advice. Thanks
I dont think you should be having a "misunderstanding" with him. I think you should break up with him now. Because you cannot leave the Catholic faith and he has said he wont let you stay in it.

Receive communion in the hand so that you can hold Jesus...then go hold your "guy" in your hands.

Whom do you choose?
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 12:55pm On Jan 05, 2015
jnrbayano:
I don't know where a good oath/swearing stops and bad one begins, for this reason, I wouldn't wanna perform the act no matter the circumstance.

As for the Church stance, I don't know.
Fine, so you don't do the "I swear to God" too?
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 1:00pm On Jan 05, 2015
SalC:
Fine, so you don't do the "I swear to God" too?
It is not in my habit. Anytime I must have utterred such, I usually feel bad about it.

I avoid saying such.
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