barcanista:
Believe me, I am not a contractor but one thing I know about contract is that it is awarded through bid and it follows some process before its award. 1 Who is the Buhari Brother-in-law that own APC? 2[/b]was the process that led to the hiring of APC transparent or were there sharp practices? [b]3.Did they implement the project? 4 were funds stolen? These are the things we need. What was Buhar's interests in all this? Did he influence? did he receive kick-back? Did he loot PTF? Now if the committee found that APC over-charged PTF, what is the right step to take? Very simple, they stop working with APC! That is it. However, why wasn't the report implemented? You see why we like Buhari, he doesn't hide any report, he implements to the letter when he was in power. If OBJ, Yaradua and now Jonathan cannot work on the report, by working on it I mean institute lawsuit if possible against whoever breaks the law. Whoever is afraid of stepping on toes is not fit to lead Nigeria. Buhari stepped on toes when he was there, that is the leader we want

1. Ahmad Salihijo

2. No. Read this: (its a long read, you might have to scroll down to 40 somethingth paragraph. About middle of the page)

Group Captain Usman Jibrin, a board member who actually accused Buhari of corruption and who resigned in protest at the way Buhari ran the place. In an interview with the Sunday Trust of 18th October 2009, Group Captain Jibrin explained why he left thus: “What happened was that he (Buhari) followed the wrong procedure initially. He brought in the late Ahmad Salihijo without informing us. We just saw these boys in the meeting. We asked him, who are these boys? He said that they were just helping him to take notes. We didn’t know that he engaged them as consultants without our knowledge and consent because we are all members. I told him that it was wrong. As trustees, if something went wrong, we were the people that would be prosecuted, not any other person. I asked them to change the procedure and they were not ready to change it. I said ok, bye, bye….”
http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/02/buharists-and-their-stockholm-syndrome

3. You meant projects, lots of them

4. Yes, lots of funds. In bilions actually!

barcanista:
My friend, you need to come to reality, the wind of Change is blowing across Nigeria. #Buhari is the man Nigerians unanimously endorsed.

Only idiots have unanimously endorsed GMB. He truncated a democratically elected govt. Nigerians were oppressed under him. Justice and equity were not in his books. He has made way too many inflammatory comments to qualify as a genuine patriot.

Last but not the least, if GMB is the disciplined general that we are told he is, he would have been the first to appear before justice Oputa panel and explain his roles in the past to Nigerians. More so, the general should be frank with us and tell us the truth about his certificates. We truly need change but it has to be genuine. No more stories. Please, tell your master to SHOW HIS CERTIFICATES . It is that simple.

This is yet a funny attempt to assassinate Buhari's character. If the report never got into the public and has been around since Obasanjo ( some 8 years ago) then how come this useless paper has it "exclusively".

Even PDP fans who are sincere know this is a. Big lie.

arsetalks:
This is yet a funny attempt to assassinate Buhari's character. If the report never got into the public and has been around since Obasanjo ( some 8 years ago) then how come this useless paper has it "exclusively".

Even PDP fans who are sincere know this is a. Big lie.

No, the report has always been available. Are you worried that it might contain disturbing things about Buhari or are you just worried that you are hearing of it for the first time?

onyengbu:




1. Ahmad Salihijo

2. No. Read this: (its a long read, you might have to scroll down to 40 somethingth paragraph. About middle of the page)
3. You meant projects, lots of them

4. Yes, lots of funds. In bilions actually!

Anybody can make any allegation. Why wasn't such captured in the committee report? How many Board members were they? Are they all dead? Are they saying the same thing? If funds were stolen under Buhari, why wasn't it captured on the report? My friend You don't have a case.

barcanista:
Anybody can make any allegation. Why wasn't such captured in the committee report? How many Board members were they? Are they all dead? Are they saying the same thing? If funds were stolen under Buhari, why wasn't it captured on the report? My friend You don't have a case.

Why are you asking directionless questions? Funds were stolen and it was captured there in the report. What else do you want to hear?
Probably why Salahijo was reported dead on the day Obasanjo set up the Interim Management Committee to probe the PTF
Or do you want me to tell you one instance of embezzlement?

Cant believe you guys are hearing this for the first time!

tola9ja:
COME AND RULE NIGERIA MY FRIEND

The reasonable fellows knows GMB is a man of impeccable characters ....Mere fabrication to fool only the fool's. SAI BUHARI 2015

Na wa o, corruption n incompetence everywhere.

ORAFA:
I'm observing. But let me make something clear here; NOBODY can stop Buhari except GOD. Note that down.

GMB IS a man of impeccable characters.
SAI BUHARI 2015

onyengbu:


Why are you asking directionless questions? Funds were stolen and it was captured there in the report. What else do you want to hear?
Probably why Salahijo was reported dead on the day Obasanjo set up the Interim Management Committee to probe the PTF
Or do you want me to tell you one instance of embezzlement?

Cant believe you guys are hearing this for the first time!

According to the report, no fund was said to have been stolen. It only bothers on over-billing of PTF by the APC and nowhere did it indict the Chairman of PTF and his board. Meanwhile, they should have implemented the report so we can have the details and not all these excerpts

onyengbu:

No, the report has always been available. Are you worried that it might contain disturbing things about Buhari or are you just worried that you are hearing of it for the first time?

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Lots of people don't really read much, so they won't know. Quite funny to see that some claim not to have seen or heard of it before.
An anti-democracy coup plotter cannot turn round and want to benefit from what he brutally truncated.

See it this way, if some mad soldiers had overthrown the govt on 31st of December 2014, like he did in 1983 would Great grandpa Buhari be shuffling to Uyo & PHC to campaign now?

barcanista:
According to the report, no fund was said to have been stolen. It only bothers on over-billing of PTF by the APC and nowhere did it indict the Chairman of PTF and his board. Meanwhile, they should have implemented the report so we can have the details and not all these excerpts

Hahaha! Remember stealing-is-not-corruption?

Buhari is the Chairman of PTF who remained the only person that APC reports to. OBJ who is campaigning for Buhari today is in a better position to explain why the report was not implemented and you should blame him for that.

eligibility:


The reasonable fellows knows GMB is a man of impeccable characters ....Mere fabrication to fool only the fool's. SAI BUHARI 2015

Since buhari is your mentor learn to speak like him, the right word is "impechable" according to him.

meanwhile his integrity is in doubt already, from the certificate to accepting millions and helicopter from atiku ( corrupt atiku ) your fellow almajiris said before buhari refused to allow anyone sponsor his election for him in 2011, in trying to effect your party slogan "Change" he accepted stolen funds from atiku in 2015.

APC "Change"

barcanista:
Believe me, I am not a contractor but one thing I know about contract is that it is awarded through bid and it follows some process before its award. Who is the Buhari Brother-in-law that own APC? was the process that led to the hiring of APC transparent or were there sharp practices? Did they implement the project? were funds stolen? These are the things we need. What was Buhar's interests in all this? Did he influence? did he receive kick-back? Did he loot PTF? Now if the committee found that APC over-charged PTF, what is the right step to take? Very simple, they stop working with APC! That is it. However, why wasn't the report implemented? You see why we like Buhari, he doesn't hide any report, he implements to the letter when he was in power. If OBJ, Yaradua and now Jonathan cannot work on the report, by working on it I mean institute lawsuit if possible against whoever breaks the law. Whoever is afraid of stepping on toes is not fit to lead Nigeria. Buhari stepped on toes when he was there, that is the leader we want

Brother, like I said before, you have raised a lot of good questions. If indeed you are sincere, you will agree with me that those questions, no matter how legit, don't have simple answers. Politics, is dirtier than you can imagine. If God could help you see the heart of GMB and those of all the other politicians, you will never speak so glowingly about none of them. Be careful man.

Buhari is not the change we want. He's retrogressive, he's corrupt, he's an illiterate, he's a dictator, he's an ethnocentrist and an islamist, he's a terrorist, he's a violence instigator, he's old, he's a liar.

Such person can never be our president.

onyengbu:

Hahaha! Remember stealing-is-not-corruption?

Buhari is the Chairman of PTF who remained the only person that APC reports to. OBJ who is campaigning for Buhari today is in a better position to explain why the report was not implemented and you should blame him for that.

What is stealing here? I offered to get you a laptop and billed you N1000, meanwhile on your own you can get the laptop for N600. I followed due process when applying for the contract (you may say the process that led to it wasn't proven to be flawed), I delivered the Laptop to you and got my money. Will you or anyone say I stole from you? Fine, you could say you won't do business with me, but mind you there is something called Price Discrimination in economics. What is sold N1 in a street in Alaba may cost N2 in another street in the same Alaba. So it may also be that the merchant that supplied the materials to the APC company "over-charged" them. What we should investigate is whether there was kick-backs. My friend i have argued this logically with you without bias. By the way, Government is continuum, nothing stops Jonathan from looking into those file

Eluwilussit:


Brother, like I said before, you have raised a lot of good questions. If indeed you are sincere, you will agree with me that those questions, no matter how legit, don't have simple answers. Politics, is dirtier than you can imagine. If God could help you see the heart of GMB and those of all the other politicians, you will never speak so glowingly about none of them. Be careful man.

I sure will, but I believe that we should tender tangible fact when making a case against a candidate

Jwonder:
Just got one question and its Which money did buhari use in funding his last three Presidential Election Campaign since he claims all he has is his cows and 1million naira Pls don't quote me if you don't have the answer. May God Bless Nigeria.

So if you have N1,000 in your bank account at the moment, is there no possibility of you having more than that in the past?

If a man has built a house since 2010 and he now says he has just N2,000 on him now, would you ask how he got the money to build his house?

barcanista:
What is stealing here? I offered to get you a laptop and billed you N1000, meanwhile on your own you can get the laptop for N600. I followed due process when applying for the contract (you may say the process that led to it wasn't proven to be flawed), I delivered the Laptop to you and got my money. Will you or anyone say I stole from you? Fine, you could say you won't do business with me, but mind you there is something called Price Discrimination in economics. What is sold N1 in a street in Alaba may cost N2 in another street in the same Alaba. So it may also be that the merchant that supplied the materials to the APC company "over-charged" them. What we should investigate is whether there was kick-backs. My friend i have argued this logically with you without bias. By the way, Government is continuum, nothing stops Jonathan from looking into those file

No, wrong analogy there.
Buhari contracted his in law to execute federal contracts for a government agency he chairs and the same agency was indicted to have over inflated costs and you are now exempting him? At that rate, you have no moral right to accuse any government official of corruption.

How else is fund being embezzled in the country? You think people just sign government money into their account without doing anything for the government?

So you want GEJ to look into his file so that Buharists will accuse him of witch hunting and set the country on fire and later go ahead and accuse GEJ of being responsible? I think he is smarter than that.

According to the report, the sum of N25,758,532,448 was mismanaged by the Afri-Project Consortium (APC), a company contracted by the PTF as management and project consultant. Buhari as PTF chairman was said to have also "delegated to them the power of Engineer in all appropriate project requiring such power," which made them assume absolute powers to initiate, approve and execute all projects by the PTF.

The above is a clear testament that pa Buhari is indeed an illiterate. How can an individual who claim to be intelligent and a man of integrity delegate so much power to a private company to execute projects at will? No due process and no bidding for contracts in transparent manner? He just sat there doing nothing while a private company owned by his in law milked Nigeria dry. Is this how he planned to lead Nigeria? Yep. That's pretty much so. Idiagbon was the man behind the wheels when Buhari was the head of state anyway. Running PTF will certainly be no different. That is why it is laughable to hear the fairy tale stories that Buhari will fight corruption. A man brought up, benefited and surrounds himself with corruption cannot fight corruption.

onyengbu:

No, wrong analogy there.
Buhari contracted his in law to execute federal contracts for a government agency he chairs and the same agency was indicted to have over inflated costs and you are now exempting him? At that rate, you have no moral right to accuse any government official of corruption.

How else is fund being embezzled in the country? You think people just sign government money into their account without doing anything for the government?

So you want GEJ to look into his file so that Buharists will accuse him of witch hunting and set the country on fire and later go ahead and accuse GEJ of being responsible? I think he is smarter than that.

First, the report never indicted any board member of PTF. Buhari wasn't the only board member, he was the Chairman of Board.

Secondly, over-charging on contract is not subjective. The bottle of coke sold in Mr. Biggs cost more than the same bottle of coca cola sold in one Ab0k1 kiosk. Again, it is very subjective. The merchant that the APC patronises may have sold the items at different cost from the merchant that the investigators may have asked. The only area we can discuss price inflation is when the APC claim to spent a certain amount on an item from a merchant, while the actual amount sold by the same merchant is less. This is logical, but was it the case? NO.

Thirdly, was there kick-backs? Did Buhari or any member of board received any kickback from the merchants, the APC or through a third party?

Finally, were monies appropriated for on projects spent? were the projects delivered? was the monies embezzled or missing?

These are what we should look at. I am not for petty and emotional argument

major466:

The above is a clear testament that pa Buhari is indeed an illiterate. How can someone who claim to be intelligent delegate so much power to private companies to execute projects? No due process and no bidding of contract for projects as it is done by civilized societies. He just sat there doing nothing while private company owned by his friend raped Nigerians dry. That is why it is laughable to hear the fairy tale that Buhari will fight corruption. A man brought up, benefited and surrounds himself in corruption cannot fight corruption.

If you believe that the man just sat there and his in law was just stealing without his knowledge then you can believe anything.
Its likened to an igbo saying that a person is not a thief but things get missing whenever he passess!

Although Buhari may have not enriched himself as the head of PTF, the Afri-Project Consortium was a cesspit of corruption.

barcanista:
First, the report never indicted any board member of PTF. Buhari wasn't the only board member, he was the Chairman of Board.

Secondly, over-charging on contract is not subjective. The bottle of coke sold in Mr. Biggs cost more than the same bottle of coca cola sold in one Ab0k1 kiosk. Again, it is very subjective. The merchant that the APC patronises may have sold the items at different cost from the merchant that the investigators may have asked. The only area we can discuss price inflation is when the APC claim to spent a certain amount on an item from a merchant, while the actual amount sold by the same merchant is less. This is logical, but was it the case? NO.

Thirdly, was there kick-backs? Did Buhari or any member of board received any kickback from the merchants, the APC or through a third party?

Finally, were monies appropriated for on projects spent? were the projects delivered? was the monies embezzled or missing?

These are what we should look at. I am not for petty and emotional argument

No you are wrong, the report indicted PTF directly. They did other horrible things apart from contract inflation.
The more you try to explain inflation of contracts as mere over-charging the more ridiculous your submissions appear to people who look up to you here. Inflation of contracts is a smarter way to get kickbacks and everyone of those corrupt politicians know that. It is always per-arranged between the buyer and the seller before or during the transaction and no amount of investigation can trace that.

Luchitec:
Although Buhari may have not enriched himself as the head of PTF, the Afri-Project Consortium was a cesspit of corruption.

How can we prove that. And how can we also prove that all the other government functionaries both in the past and present have enriched themselves when the company that executed their projects were corrupt.

It doesnt even make sense. A company cannot be corrupt if people within the government is working with them.

barcanista:
From what I read, the report never "indicted" Muhammadu Buhari nor the PTF. It only accused the APC (company) of sharp practices in terms of inflated figures. According to the report, the APC short-changed PTF in executing some project ie a contractor short-changes a government agency. Who is to be held responsible? Was the process that led to the hiring of APC transparent? Were the contracts bided for in a transparent and legal manner? Why didn't the government work on the report and bring those found wanting to justice (if any)? Did Buhari promote his own interests in all these? When has operating 3 different accounts for 3 different units become a crime? Contracts is awarded through bidding process, did the APC follow the process before they were awarded? Did they execute the projects? Did they loot the monies? Was there kickbacks? From the report, I see no case against PTF and APC. If there is, I challenge the government to dig up the file and prosecute them.


PDP should give it up. Buhari is a clean slate

Haba bro, you excuse Buhari in this, then you no right to accuse GEJ for any offence committed by anybody in his government. Under him as the chairman there was gross mismanagement. He could not control it. A chairman of a mere agency? How can he govern Nigeria? How can he root out corruption? Or was it not his duty to oversee the workings of the committee and the contractors?

Whose table does the buck stop? Who carried out the approvals?

The general is indeed corrupt...No 2 way about it

barcanista:
From what I read, the report never "indicted" Muhammadu Buhari nor the PTF. It only accused the APC (company) of sharp practices in terms of inflated figures. According to the report, the APC short-changed PTF in executing some project ie a contractor short-changes a government agency. Who is to be held responsible? Was the process that led to the hiring of APC transparent? Were the contracts bided for in a transparent and legal manner? Why didn't the government work on the report and bring those found wanting to justice (if any)? Did Buhari promote his own interests in all these? When has operating 3 different accounts for 3 different units become a crime? Contracts is awarded through bidding process, did the APC follow the process before they were awarded? Did they execute the projects? Did they loot the monies? Was there kickbacks? From the report, I see no case against PTF and APC. If there is, I challenge the government to dig up the file and prosecute them.


PDP should give it up. Buhari is a clean slate

It is the height of Elephantine stupidity to claim that a report 'Indicts' an individual and the Government refuses to prosecute the so-called Indicted person. So what is the essence of the time,energy and money spent on committes which worked on the task only to file away their report.....It smirks of mischief or dereliction of duty by any sane Government to have done that


PDP Government is the most silly that i have ever seen since the creation of Man............what is the essence of conducting a paper indictment when you wont go the whole hog to bring criminals to justice but think they can use such silly report just for cheap political reason on the eve of election and you think anyone will take you serious

Since when has the report been submitted and Why now...........I believe all what PDP is trying to do is scoring a goal when the match have been decided

So in essence if IBB decides to contest against GEJ,the PDP will suddenly remember the Pius Okigbo report about the Mismanagement of the Gulf War Oil Windfall which wont have hitherto been touched were he not contesting


It is for this reason that Nigerians should vote out the PDP a party that derives orgasm in just indicting individuals but lacking the bal.ls to prosecute them thereby allowing every so called indicted person to walk free


NB: All that i said should never be misconstrued as believing the hogwash said about Buhari!

onyengbu:

No you are wrong, the report indicted PTF directly. They did other horrible things apart from contract inflation.
The more you try to explain inflation of contracts as mere over-charging the more ridiculous your submissions appear to people who look up to you here. Inflation of contracts is a smarter way to get kickbacks and everyone of those corrupt politicians know that. It is always per-arranged between the buyer and the seller before or during the transaction and no amount of investigation can trace that.

At crossed, I never used the word "MERE", please I will appreciate if you don't ascribe words to me. I have made a logical position and I am also calling for a probe and an implementation of the report.This has always been my position, probe whoever is indicted and let whoever you feel have a case to answer explain to the judge. However, from this report, I don't see any case against Muhammadu Buhari, the Board of PTF and also the APC company.
If you can answer these questions, then we have something to dwell on...

Secondly, Contract over-charging is subjective. The bottle of coke sold in Mr. Biggs cost more than the same bottle of coca cola sold in one Ab0k1 kiosk. Again, it is very subjective. The merchant that the APC patronises may have sold the items at different cost from the merchant that the investigators may have asked. The only area we can discuss price inflation is when the APC claim to spent a certain amount on an item from a merchant, while the actual amount sold by the same merchant is less. This is logical, but was it the case? NO.

Thirdly, was there kick-backs? Did Buhari or any member of board received any kickback from the merchants, the APC or through a third party?

Finally, were monies appropriated for on projects spent? were the projects delivered? was the monies embezzled or missing?

These are what we should look at. I am not for petty and emotional argument

Goodnight

Buhari is a fraud! His sins have found him.

beopened:


It is the height of Elephantine stupidity to claim that a report 'Indicts' an individual and the Government refuses to prosecute the so-called Indicted person. So what is the essence of the time,energy and money spent on committes which worked on the task only to file away their report.....It smirks of mischief or dereliction of duty by any sane Government to have done that


PDP Government is the most silly that i have ever seen since the creation of Man............what is the essence of conducting a paper indictment when you wont go the whole hog to bring criminals to justice


It is for this reason that Nigerians should vote out the PDP a party that derives orgasm in just indicting individuals but lacking the bal.ls to prosecute them thereby allowing every so called indicted person to walk free


NB: All that i said should never be misconstrued as believing the hogwash said about Buhari!

Honestly, even the so-called report is not even indicting on anybody. The government should made the committee to refund whatever was spent on the course of investigation

barcanista:
At crossed, I never used the word "MERE", please I will appreciate if you don't ascribe words to me. I have made a logical position and I am also calling for a probe and an implementation of the report.This has always been my position, probe whoever is indicted and let whoever you feel have a case to answer explain to the judge. However, from this report, I don't see any case against Muhammadu Buhari, the Board of PTF and also the APC company.
If you can answer these questions, then we have something to dwell on...



Goodnight

The word mere was mine and I didnt say you used the word mere. Or did I?
I wont bother answering you proof-of-inflation question but you might need to read this:

Outside its irregular appointment and operations and charges of “managerial incompetence”, the report indicted Afri-Projects Consortium (APC) for overcharging the PTF for its services to the tune of over N25 billion. The firm directly managed the PTF HIV/AIDS Intervention Programme, knowingly importing sub-standard, poorly packaged, poorly stored, expired, or soon to expire treatment kits and drugs which the auditors said cost the government N579 million in waste via the stocking of useless drugs and kits in huge silos, all purchased at inflated prices. The same APC purchased large quantities of spectacle frames for N1,900 a piece at a time it cost only N800 a piece locally. Again, this cost the public treasury over N45 million in inflated charges. They further cost the treasury N900 million in inflated charges when they bought ambulances that cost N3 million each for N13 million each. The report also found that the PTF’s purchase of general drugs through the APC at the cost of N3 billion was overinflated by as much as N1.5 billion. To add salt to injury, most of the drugs in question were expired drugs.