₦airaland Forum

Rilwayne001:
Infact, you've said it all.

I can't just understand why people are not ready to stop being hypocrite, can you imagine a brother telling me on another thread that "even thougj gej is running a corrupt government but he will still vote him because the person that will CHANGE the situation is yet to be born" , he further claim that "he is not voting buhari because he will islamize Nigeria".

I think our brothers are not just getting it, things can only start to change when we drop our religion and ethnic bigotry. Its not possible for one man to islamize nigeria without the consent of the senate and other bodies.

Corruption is the major problem we are facing on this country, and like osinbJo said yesterday on Channels "Management of resources is the bane of our economic underdevelopment. Government must be transparent if you don't manage oil resources, if you dnt fight corruption in the oil sector. You won't go anywhere. and we all know buharis stance when it comes to corruption.

Now if we say we are not voting him because he is a muslim, because he is a northerner or because we are told that he will islamize nigeria (of which is not possible). WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BE FREED OF THIS BONDAGE?

In 2011 when people were singing Goodluck this and that, I rejected Jonathan and I voted buhari.

However when buhari decided to go around saying sharia must be adpoted all over Nigeria in his Islamic circles which was carried by newspapers, in a country which is almost 50% christain do you think he won't lose christain voters. Especially since northern ruling elites are known for their nepotism and religious bigotry.

Not to mention how he allegedly incited the CPC riots in the north after he lost by making careless statements. Including his delay in condemning the rioters who killed corpers and inec officials, burned building etc. Including statements from his camp claiming Nigeria will be ungovernable for Jonathan. Please let's not forget history.

Candour:
Very correct image. What's all the fear mongering about sef?

How many alhajis with multiple wives are hobnobbing with Jonathan this very moment in his quest for a second term?

Abegi jare

Interesting that, i supposed we ought to live and decide by faith, not by fear. Give me my CHANGE.
Ifeann, why didn't Buhari islamise Nigeria or join OIC as a military head of state with a muslim vice? Briefly, what exactly are your fears about Nigeria being islamised?

Image123:
Interesting that, i supposed we ought to live and decide by faith, not by fear. Give me my CHANGE.
Ifeann, why didn't Buhari islamise Nigeria or join OIC as a military head of state with a muslim vice? Briefly, what exactly are your fears about Nigeria being islamised?

You asked,"Ifeann, why didn't Buhari islamise Nigeria or join OIC as a military head of state with a muslim vice? "

I would have to ask him that but what I do know is that his muslim brother who led the government after the coup did infact sign up Nigeria with the OIC. It could be argued that babangida just continued from where buhari left off after he over threw him.


You asked me, "what exactly are your fears about Nigeria being islamised?".
Well emmm maybe its because I am a christain. And maybe its because I don't like a political ideology masked as a religion which is hell bent on a totalitarian Islamic government as commanded in their quran.

Ifeann:
Hey friend from your comment I can see u aren't well informed about this issue. You mentioned "muslim-phobic"... That's so so wrong. I would say my comments are anti Islam but NEVER muslim-phobic. I have muslim family members I love as Christ commands me to.

If Islam is your problem and not Muslims, then what religion do your Muslim friends practice?

To be honest with you, your comments are majorly anti buhari.

You said something abt ethno-religious harmony. Were u born yesterday dear? Look at Nigeria's history which I have studied indepth, ethno-religious harmony is a myth, unachievable in any country where Muslims are in large numbers.

So does that mean you've foreclosed the possibility of harmonious existence in the country? If you have, what should be the modus operandi going forward? Could it be you're advocating a wiping out of Muslims with their religion or just total christianisation of the country?

For your info, I've also studied Nigerian history, studied christian history and also being privileged to live and work for long periods in every single geopolitical zone in the country so I know some things too.

You said,"Since you single buhari out, how do you think or imagine he will singlehandedly islamise the country"
Emmm I also said it will be very difficult for anyone to "islamise" this country. But I am suspicious of buhari because he is a hardcore conservative muslim northern elite with an old fashioned mentality of born to rule who has said on record that he supports the spread of sharia all over Nigeria and now he is running for president again..... He has not renounced his position on the sharia issue despite calls for him to do so.

Which northerner doesn't have this "born to rule" mentality? Which human being doesn't want to dominate? Wike (an ikwerre) wants to become governor of rivers state and rule for 8 years after amaechi (another ikwerre) just finished ruling for eight years in a state with numerous ethnic groups. Does that give you and I license to tag every ikwerre we meet as having a "born to rule" mentality?

I've read that speech by buhari and I do not still see how it translates to an Islamic agenda for Nigeria.

You said,"How liberal is Adamu Muazu (PDP chairman) who signed sharia into law as governor of Bauchi state?"
If he decides to run for president I will do research on his position on the issue and make sure votes from my christain friends don't go to him if he is still pro sharia.

The man already signed sharia into law as Bauchi governor, shouldn't that make you and Jonathan wary of him? Yet he's the chairman of the party sponsoring our 'christian' brother while you accuse someone else of having an Islamic agenda.

You said,"If Buhari can islamise Nigeria, so can Sambo (who says gej can't drop dead tomorrow?), so can any northerner that will take over in 2019 when gej must leave "

like I said before, "it will be very difficult for anyone to "islamise" this country." sambo seems to be a moderate muslim same as yaradua was hence I don't think we have to fear the progress of the Islamic agenda from him.

Who told you Sambo and yar'adua are moderate Muslims? How did you measure it?

How many speeches have you heard sambo give to be able to know how his mind works? What makes you think this 'moderate' Muslim isn't a friend of isis militant group? Does Sambo lack the "born to rule" mentality?

An important point I want to make here is that most of these northern states who claim they are under sharia law aren't even practising it as their sources (quran and hadiths) prescribe. Go to Saudi Arabia, Iran and you shall see the real sharia law in action.

I don't u derstand you here. You're scared of sharia yet you're not worried about the sharia signed into law in some northern States, yet you're trying to stop folks from voting buhari because he'll set up sharia countrywide.

Is it that you believe buhari is a better student of the Quran and hadith than every other notable northern Muslim?

My brother, the bottom line is "learn to separate politics from religion. Our 'christian' brother will gladly do a trade with the devil if it will assure him of 2015. Go to the streets of PH and ask what Jonathan's boys are doing with ogboni.

Image123:
Interesting that, i supposed we ought to live and decide by faith, not by fear. Give me my CHANGE.
Ifeann, why didn't Buhari islamise Nigeria or join OIC as a military head of state with a muslim vice? Briefly, what exactly are your fears about Nigeria being islamised?

I keep wondering why buhari didn't islamise Nigeria as military head of state when he had a strong army at his beck and call. My big daddy and another uncle of mine worked with him as directors of our foremost intelligence agency Both were Christians (my uncle In fact rose to the pastorate after retirement) and till date, they have the best accolades for this man.

@the bolded is a question I also ask Christians who have this morbid fear of buhari.

Ifeann:
You said,"Since you single buhari out, how do you think or imagine he will singlehandedly islamise the country"
Emmm I also said it will be very difficult for anyone to "islamise" this country. But I am suspicious of buhari because he is a hardcore conservative muslim northern elite with an old fashioned mentality of born to rule who has said on record that he supports the spread of sharia all over Nigeria and now he is running for president again..... He has not renounced his position on the sharia issue despite calls for him to do so.

Did Buhari say Muslims should only vote Muslims? What were his exact words on shariah?

Here:

In June 2001, Sheikh Sidi Attahiru Ibrahim launched his book at a Dan Fodio University event. General Muhammadu Buhari was invited to chair the event, where he spoke ex-tempore.

Later that month, Buhari granted an interview to Rev, Fr. Matthew Hassan Kukah (present day Catholic Bishop of Sokoto) confirming what he said at the book launch. Here is the relevant portion of Kukah’s report on what Buhari said during their June 23, 2001 conversation (which was published in the Weekly Trust edition of July 6-12, 2001)

“During the course of my comments, I drew attention to the fact that the introduction of Sharia had become one of the main issues in this new dispensation. I explained that Sharia, however, has been with us well before the British colonized Nigeria. Now, Sharia has been introduced in many Northern states and Sokoto is one of the states that has already adopted Sharia. It must be pointed out however that Sharia is applicable only to Muslims. Those elements that have taken the law into their hands and use the opportunity to molest other non-Muslims are not helping the cause. What is amore, they are like bad policemen or judges who are making the enforcement of justice so difficult in Nigeria. Their shortcoming does not do the police force or the judiciary any good, but these acts do not detract from the imperative of both institutions. Midway through our democracy, we have time now to assess the situation on ground in terms of making our choice in the next elections. Vote for good men whether they are in Borno, Katsina, Sokoto or wherever. Vote for those who will protect your interest. This, Rev. Father, is the summary of every thing I said and the tapes are there.” (1)

Nothing controversial in any portion of that statement, I’d say?

The controversy began when Ahmed Oyerinde, a long time Sokoto correspondent for ThisDay and other Newspapers, (who was not at the venue of the book launch when Buhari spoke) made up the false quote and reported this as fact in ThisDay. In the aftermath of his report, the tape of the event was played and no such statement was found there. Oyerinde later confessed to his Editors that he was not at the event and did not hear Buhari say any such thing. I was told that ThisDay later published a retraction of the report. (2)

For the record, Oyerinde, sadly now late, had been the subject of a disciplinary investigation by Nigerian Press watchdogs for allegations of taking money to write false and mischievous stories. The allegations were confirmed and he was reprimanded. One of these investigations dates back to 1990. (3)

Yet, despite Buhari’s many denials, and the defence of neutral observers like Fr. Kukah & Garba Shehu the peddlers of this lie keep repeating them maliciously.

REFERENCES:
1. Kukah, Matthew Hassan, Weekly Trust Newspaper, Abuja, July 6-12, 2001

2. Private conversation with a Senior ThisDay editor with close knowledge of the 2001 incident on Dec. 30, 2014

3. Shehu, Garba, Premium Times, http://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/106982-not-accepting-to-negotiate-with-boko-haram-could-hurt-buhari-by-garba-shehu.html

-http://factchecki.ng/question/did-buhari-say-muslims-should-only-vote-for-muslim-leaders/

Ifeann:
In 2011 when people were singing Goodluck this and that, I rejected Jonathan and I voted buhari.

Hmm...why are you lying

However when buhari decided to go around saying sharia must be adpoted all over Nigeria in his Islamic circles which was carried by newspapers,

Now the above contradict the first post of yours, you said you voted in in 2011 and you won't vote him again because he allegedly said sharia must be adopted all over nigeria, now please can you provide your source for this.

Note that it must ne within the time you vote amd the time you are not going to vote for him again. thanks

in a country which is almost 50% christain do you think he won't lose christain voters. Especially since northern ruling elites are known for their nepotism and religious bigotry.

First of all this alleged statement was in 2000, 15 years ago
and you make it seem to be yesterday.

Have you seen a video or tape recording of this alleged statement? Buhari has deined it several times,he wrote a letter to all the bishops but people appear to only read what they want to hear. The reporter was a yoruba guy who doesnt speak hausa, the reporter was also not in Sokot when Buhari made that statement which all translates into falsheood.

Pdp and religious bigots are digging this inciting news to tarnish is image. I will conntinue to say this, he has no sole power as the president of this nation to islamize nigeria or do you thing you will wake up in the morning and wave wand and nigeria is islamized? come on, you should be smart above this taradiddle news.

Not to mention how he incited the CPC riots in the north after he lost by making careless statements.

Can you provide for us these careless statements that incited those riots?

Look here, its a normal thing here to see fanatic supporters display their stupiddity when the person they are supporting lose an election, here in Oyo state, i remember vividly that after the 2011 election some thugs that are loyal to akala started a riot in ibadan that kill about 7people in iwo road side, does that mean akala incited them to kill for him? come on

Including his delay in condemning the rioters who killed corpers and inec officials, burned building etc.

He cannot be hold responsible since they are not doing it on is behalf, atleast he later condemn them to show that they are definitely not for him. Can we say the same for jonatan who went for declaration the day after 43children were killed in yobe bomb attack?

Do ypu even know that it took jonatan 3weeks before admitting that over 200 girls were kidnapped in chibok, why don't you hold him for all these?

[b] Including statements from his camp claiming Nigeria will be ungovernable for Jonathan.

This alleged Statements has been debunked many times on the Politics section, can you please provide your source for this ?

Please let's not forget history.

Jonathan said he knows those who are aiding bokoharam, what is stopping him from arresting them?

Ifeann:
I would have to ask him that but what I do know is that his muslim brother who led the government after the coup did infact sign up Nigeria with the OIC. [s] It could be argued that babangida just continued from where buhari left off after he over threw him. [/s]

You should stop all this your lies and baseless propaganda.

The administrations of Muritala/Obasanjo, Obasanjo/ Yaradua, Shagari/Ekweme and Buhari/Idiagbon refused to sign to Nigeria's full membership of the OIC despite pressure and intense lobbying from Saudi Arabia. They maintained that Nigeria is a secular state and not an Islamic country.

Though as you stated up there it was during babangida time that nigeria joined, hence babagida is now another anti-buhari who is now campaigning for jonaTAN, the OIC member was renewwed during the time of Musa Yaradau and in 2013 islamic summit of the OIC During the time of jonaTAn, He (President Ebele jonatan) led Nigeria's delegation to the OIC Islamic Summit in 2013. Other delegates are...H.E. Dr. Nuruddeen Muhammed Minister of State II for Foreign Affairs, Amb Hassan Tukur (Foreign Affairs Minister), Amb. Abdullah Omaki, Abubakar Sheikh Bunu, Mr. Tijjani Hammanjodu, Mr.Suleiman Sani and Mr. Manir Ibrahim

www.nairaland.com/1970525/organisation-islamic-cooperation-jonathan-buhari

Ifeann:
You asked,"Ifeann, why didn't Buhari islamise Nigeria or join OIC as a military head of state with a muslim vice? "

I would have to ask him that but what I do know is that his muslim brother who led the government after the coup did infact sign up Nigeria with the OIC. It could be argued that babangida just continued from where buhari left off after he over threw him.


You asked me, "what exactly are your fears about Nigeria being islamised?".
Well emmm maybe its because I am a christain. And maybe its because I don't like a political ideology masked as a religion which is hell bent on a totalitarian Islamic government as commanded in their quran.

Lol, what can i more say than what the others have said? Calm your nerves. Be anxious for nothing.

Candour:
If Islam is your problem and not Muslims, then what religion do your Muslim friends practice?

To be honest with you, your comments are majorly anti buhari.





So does that mean you've foreclosed the possibility of harmonious existence in the country? If you have, what should be the modus operandi going forward? Could it be you're advocating a wiping out of Muslims with their religion or just total christianisation of the country?

For your info, I've also studied Nigerian history, studied christian history and also being privileged to live and work for long periods in every single geopolitical zone in the country so I know some things too.




Which northerner doesn't have this "born to rule" mentality? Which human being doesn't want to dominate? Wike (an ikwerre) wants to become governor of rivers state and rule for 8 years after amaechi (another ikwerre) just finished ruling for eight years in a state with numerous ethnic groups. Does that give you and I license to tag every ikwerre we meet as having a "born to rule" mentality?

I've read that speech by buhari and I do not still see how it translates to an Islamic agenda for Nigeria.




The man already signed sharia into law as Bauchi governor, shouldn't that make you and Jonathan wary of him? Yet he's the chairman of the party sponsoring our 'christian' brother while you accuse someone else of having an Islamic agenda.




Who told you Sambo and yar'adua are moderate Muslims? How did you measure it?

How many speeches have you heard sambo give to be able to know how his mind works? What makes you think this 'moderate' Muslim isn't a friend of isis militant group? Does Sambo lack the "born to rule" mentality?





I don't u derstand you here. You're scared of sharia yet you're not worried about the sharia signed into law in some northern States, yet you're trying to stop folks from voting buhari because he'll set up sharia countrywide.

Is it that you believe buhari is a better student of the Quran and hadith than every other notable northern Muslim?

My brother, the bottom line is "learn to separate politics from religion. Our 'christian' brother will gladly do a trade with the devil if it will assure him of 2015. Go to the streets of PH and ask what Jonathan's boys are doing with ogboni.

You asked, "If Islam is your problem and not Muslims, then what religion do your Muslim friends practice?"

Apparently u think I should be
prejudiced to Muslims. NEVER.
I detest Islam because I know a lot of what it teaches. Besides a lot of Muslims I know are moderates who thankfully don't follow the quran literally.

You said,"To be honest with you, your comments are majorly anti buhari."
Well look at my past posts on nairaland, its on Islam not buhari. Buhari is the topic of this thread and my opinion on him has been stated.

You said,"So does that mean you've foreclosed the possibility of harmonious existence in the country?"
No. Like I said I knw several Muslims, one of my closest friends is a muslim I respect his God given right to freewill and choice. I have igbo, hausa, benin and yoruba family members, not many nigerians can say this.
I believe in harmony but Islam doesn't want peace in any country it is in.

You said," Could it be you're advocating a wiping out of Muslims with their religion or just total christianisation of the country?"

No. Why should I. But I would rather have Muslims leave the falsehood of Islam which commands them to;

Quran 8:39. "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do."

Qur'an (9:29)-"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura 9:5. "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."

Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with AS HEAVY SINS AS A MOUNTAIN, and Allah would FORGIVE THEM and He would PLACE IN THEIR STEAD the Jews and the Christians. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6668)


You said,"I've read that speech by buhari and I do not still see how it translates to an Islamic agenda for Nigeria."
My dear which of the speeches did u read. Did u just read one and conclude buhari is not pro-sharia for Nigeria. Please do more research. And I hope u are aware that some groups have called on buhari to renounce his pro-sharia stance and he hasn't renounced his position on it.

Look I am tired and I will stop here.

You have asked many questions BUT you haven't asked yourself the most important one. WHY are so many people against Buhari and why are so many people citing religious reasons. U can blame it on the pdp or on less known facts about the man.

YESTERDAY ON TWITTER BUHARI DEBUNKED ALL THE ALLEGATIONS MADE AGAINST HIM.

“Good morning, my friends. Before we kick off our
rallies in Port Harcourt this morning, let us talk,
Nigerian to Nigerian – GMB”

“Many of you believe something is wrong with
Nigeria. Some of you have given up. You think this
country can not be good; cannot get better.”

“And so you forgive politicians for stealing and for
mediocrity – because you say to yourselves, “they are
all thieves, they are all selfish”

“and nothing will change.” But is that really true? It is
not.”

“Many people ask me: why am I running for office
again? And I ask them – “What has changed since I
began this mission?”

“Can you honestly, truly say to yourself that our
country has changed for the better? Are our children
safe when they go to school?”

“Are our parents safe when we leave them at home?
Is the naira in your bank account of greater value
today than it was four years ago?”

[b] “People accuse me of many things. But one thing they
never accuse me of is corruption. They never accuse
me of mediocrity, or of lying.”

“I have led this country and I have a record. We were
not perfect, but we were effective; we solved
problems, and we made Nigerians proud.”

“In our government, we fought corruption, we
stabilised the naira, and we shut down insurgencies.
# ThingsMustChange ”

“We shouldn’t forget so soon that there was
Maitatsine ravaging the north east and we dealt with
it. We also overran the Chadian rebels.”

“We rebuilt industries, Nigerians queued up and
treated each other with respect; Nigerians took pride
in our reputation for discipline.”

“The world admired us. We were proud to be
Nigerians. #ThingsMustChange”

“Because they can’t attack our record, they accuse
me falsely of ethnic jingoism; they accuse me falsely of
religious fundamentalism.”

“Because they cannot attack our record, they accuse
us falsely of calling for election violence – when we
have only insisted on peace.”

“Even as Head of State, we never imposed Sha’riah. All
my running mates have been either Igbo or Yoruba
and always Christian.”

“I have and will continue to condemn those who burn
God’s places of worship, be they churches or
mosques and wish God’s judgment upon them.”

“As your President, their punishment won’t stop
there, we will also ensure Boko Haram and other
such elements, are found, are arrested”

“and face the full wrath of the law as punishment for
their crimes against our country. #ThingsMustChan
ge”

“So don’t let anyone blind you with fear so they can
continue to plunder our resources, and keep you
away from our common wealth.” [/b]

“How can 219 girls be missing in our country, and
our leader appears incapable of action?
#ThingsMustChange”

“How can 12 young people die because they were
looking for jobs in Abuja and justice is not met?
Several corruption scandals unsolved.”

“How can we allow the cowards of Boko Haram take
over any part of this country – a sovereign state?
#ThingsMustChange”

“What is going on here? In this our country? In a
country that belongs to all of us? #ThingsMustChan
ge”

“My dear friends, this is very important to note: It
doesn’t matter if you are Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw, Hausa,
Idoma, Efik, Ekwere, Urhobo, Igala”

“And, no, it does not matter if you are Christian,
Muslim, animist or atheist: we need a new direction
under a new leadership.”

“This is why I am running for the office of the
president of Nigeria. This is my promise.
#ThingsMustChange”

“This is my promise: We will work hard and fast for
you. Our children will go to school and they will
return safe.”

“Corruption will be a thing of the past and we will
ensure that wealth goes around our citizens in an
equitable manner.”

“Government will conduct itself in a disciplined and
responsible manner; we will identify problems and fix
them. #ThingsMustChange”

“The task ahead will be challenging and daunting, but
it is surmountable. This is what leadership is about.
#ThingsMustChange”

“My only desire is to prove to you that Nigeria can
truly work. Allow me prove to you that in your
lifetime, you can be proud of this country”

“Let me make you this promise today: We will protect
your children. We will protect your wealth. We will
make this country work again.”

“Thank you and God keep us all. Vote APC. Vote
# Change.”

“I am Muhammadu Buhari, and I am running for
President to change this country, for good. – GMB”
Follow General Muhammadu Buhari on Twitter
@ThisIsBuhari

Rilwayne001:
You should stop all this your lies and baseless propaganda.

The administrations of Muritala/Obasanjo, Obasanjo/ Yaradua, Shagari/Ekweme and Buhari/Idiagbon refused to sign to Nigeria's full membership of the OIC despite pressure and intense lobbying from Saudi Arabia. They maintained that Nigeria is a secular state and not an Islamic country.

Though as you stated up there it was during babangida time that nigeria joined, hence babagida is now another anti-buhari who is now campaigning for jonaTAN, the OIC member was renewwed during the time of Musa Yaradau and in 2013 islamic summit of the OIC During the time of jonaTAn, He (President Ebele jonatan) led Nigeria's delegation to the OIC Islamic Summit in 2013. Other delegates are...H.E. Dr. Nuruddeen Muhammed Minister of State II for Foreign Affairs, Amb Hassan Tukur (Foreign Affairs Minister), Amb. Abdullah Omaki, Abubakar Sheikh Bunu, Mr. Tijjani Hammanjodu, Mr.Suleiman Sani and Mr. Manir Ibrahim

www.nairaland.com/1970525/organisation-islamic-cooperation-jonathan-buhari

And ur point is what?? Is Nigeria a member of the OIC or not. How is what I said baseless.

You try to tell us that Nigeria became a member during the timecof buhari without any prove to show for it.

Ifeann:
And ur point is what??

My point is, it wasnt during his tym rather the time of IBB who is now a great campaign member of Jonatan.

Is Nigeria a member of the OIC or not.

Yes, but it wasnt during the time of buhari amd you have no point here.

How is what I said baseless.

You have nothing to show that he (buhari) was planning it before he was overtthrew by IBB thereby making your point baseless.

Rilwayne001:
Hmm...why are you lying



Now the above contradict the first post of yours, you said you voted in in 2011 and you won't vote him again because he allegedly said sharia must be adopted all over nigeria, now please can you provide your source for this.

Note that it must ne within the time you vote amd the time you are not going to vote for him again. thanks



First of all this alleged statement was in 2000, 15 years ago
and you make it seem to be yesterday.

Have you seen a video or tape recording of this alleged statement? Buhari has deined it several times,he wrote a letter to all the bishops but people appear to only read what they want to hear. The reporter was a yoruba guy who doesnt speak hausa, the reporter was also not in Sokot when Buhari made that statement which all translates into falsheood.

Pdp and religious bigots are digging this inciting news to tarnish is image. I will conntinue to say this, he has no sole power as the president of this nation to islamize nigeria or do you thing you will wake up in the morning and wave wand and nigeria is islamized? come on, you should be smart above this taradiddle news.



Can you provide for us these careless statements that incited those riots?

Look here, its a normal thing here to see fanatic supporters display their stupiddity when the person they are supporting lose an election, here in Oyo state, i remember vividly that after the 2011 election some thugs that are loyal to akala started a riot in ibadan that kill about 7people in iwo road side, does that mean akala incited them to kill for him? come on



He cannot be hold responsible since they are not doing it on is behalf, atleast he later condemn them to show that they are definitely not for him. Can we say the same for jonatan who went for declaration the day after 43children were killed in yobe bomb attack?

Do ypu even know that it took jonatan 3weeks before admitting that over 200 girls were kidnapped in chibok, why don't you hold him for all these?



This alleged Statements has been debunked many times on the Politics section, can you please provide your source for this ?



Jonathan said he knows those who are aiding bokoharam, what is stopping him from arresting them?

You asked why am I lying because I said I voted for buhari. Well my friend lying is what I avoid. I DID vote for him. I do have a soft spot for him because he has some good in him. At least he isn't as flamboyant as so many of our past leaders. He made bold economy decisions during his time in office. Some say his deputy was the one doing all the work, I can't say.

You said he has denied saying he is pro sharia. PROVE IT, where is the link. However, I will do further investigation for the benefit of doubt. I like to be right when I make comments. BUT as of this moment I haven't seen credible news sources showing he didnt make those statements. Please provide me with evidence of this to make my search easier.

From your comment I suspect you think I am pro Jonathan. HAhaha nothing can be further from the truth. Like I said before, 4 years ago I didn't vote for him, his shoe story seemed like a lie to me and his demeanour didn't give me much to expect. His handling of boko haram has been disgraceful. I detest a lot of the decisions of his administration. His wife is probably the worse first lady we have ever had but is he 100% bad, NO, of course not. Our manufacturing, agricultural and power sector is vastly improved but our security, education, healthcare and corruption indices have hit rock bottom levels. Did it start with his adminstration, NO. Will buhari change Nigeria, NO. This mess will take several Governments to correct. Over several decades.
I try to be objective but until I see buhari reject his pro sharia stance I will NOT trust him governing Nigeria.

If only he can come out and say he isn't still a staunch supporter of a sharia governed nigeria, show me one just one evidence that he won't mix his religion and Nigeria's affairs and I will vote him again.

Rilwayne001:
You try to tell us that Nigeria became a member during the timecof buhari without any prove to show for it.



My point is, it wasnt during his tym rather the time of IBB who is now a great campaign member of Jonatan.


Yes, but it wasnt during the time of buhari amd you have no point here.



You have nothing to show that he (buhari) was planning it before he was overtthrew by IBB thereby making your point baseless.

Now u are lying my friend.
I never said he signed Nigeria to the IOC. I only made an off comment saying who is to say babangida didn't get the idea from buhari. Its NOT a fact statement. Everyone knows its was in 1986 under babangida's regime.
Another northern muslim moving the Islamic agenda forward. That's the point I made. Northern Muslims mix Islam with government too too much. That is why almost every federal institution we have in the country has a mosque in it; the courts, local government offices etc

WinsomeX:
Did Buhari say Muslims should only vote Muslims? What were his exact words on shariah?

Here:

In June 2001, Sheikh Sidi Attahiru Ibrahim launched his book at a Dan Fodio University event. General Muhammadu Buhari was invited to chair the event, where he spoke ex-tempore.

Later that month, Buhari granted an interview to Rev, Fr. Matthew Hassan Kukah (present day Catholic Bishop of Sokoto) confirming what he said at the book launch. Here is the relevant portion of Kukah’s report on what Buhari said during their June 23, 2001 conversation (which was published in the Weekly Trust edition of July 6-12, 2001)

“During the course of my comments, I drew attention to the fact that the introduction of Sharia had become one of the main issues in this new dispensation. I explained that Sharia, however, has been with us well before the British colonized Nigeria. Now, Sharia has been introduced in many Northern states and Sokoto is one of the states that has already adopted Sharia. It must be pointed out however that Sharia is applicable only to Muslims. Those elements that have taken the law into their hands and use the opportunity to molest other non-Muslims are not helping the cause. What is amore, they are like bad policemen or judges who are making the enforcement of justice so difficult in Nigeria. Their shortcoming does not do the police force or the judiciary any good, but these acts do not detract from the imperative of both institutions. Midway through our democracy, we have time now to assess the situation on ground in terms of making our choice in the next elections. Vote for good men whether they are in Borno, Katsina, Sokoto or wherever. Vote for those who will protect your interest. This, Rev. Father, is the summary of every thing I said and the tapes are there.” (1)

Nothing controversial in any portion of that statement, I’d say?

The controversy began when Ahmed Oyerinde, a long time Sokoto correspondent for ThisDay and other Newspapers, (who was not at the venue of the book launch when Buhari spoke) made up the false quote and reported this as fact in ThisDay. In the aftermath of his report, the tape of the event was played and no such statement was found there. Oyerinde later confessed to his Editors that he was not at the event and did not hear Buhari say any such thing. I was told that ThisDay later published a retraction of the report. (2)

For the record, Oyerinde, sadly now late, had been the subject of a disciplinary investigation by Nigerian Press watchdogs for allegations of taking money to write false and mischievous stories. The allegations were confirmed and he was reprimanded. One of these investigations dates back to 1990. (3)

Yet, despite Buhari’s many denials, and the defence of neutral observers like Fr. Kukah & Garba Shehu the peddlers of this lie keep repeating them maliciously.

REFERENCES:
1. Kukah, Matthew Hassan, Weekly Trust Newspaper, Abuja, July 6-12, 2001

2. Private conversation with a Senior ThisDay editor with close knowledge of the 2001 incident on Dec. 30, 2014

3. Shehu, Garba, Premium Times, http://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/106982-not-accepting-to-negotiate-with-boko-haram-could-hurt-buhari-by-garba-shehu.html

-http://factchecki.ng/question/did-buhari-say-muslims-should-only-vote-for-muslim-leaders/

U did a decent job with the explanation, tho this is the first Time I am hearing this. I will take my time to study this. Though the sharia issue is not the only issue I have with buhari, it is the biggest issue.

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Apparently u just lifted this information off a blog called factchecki.ng with no valid references.there was No recorded interview from buhari. I mean what kind of reference is this;
2. Private conversation with a Senior ThisDay editor with close knowledge of the 2001 incident on Dec. 30, 2014.
It just some random persons write up. Tsk tsk tsk. This is deceitful.

Ifeann:
You asked why am I lying because I said I voted for buhari. Well my friend lying is what I avoid. I DID vote for him. I do have a soft spot for him because he has some good in him. At least he isn't as flamboyant as so many of our past leaders. He made bold economy decisions during his time in office. Some say his deputy was the one doing all the work, I can't say.

All your claims up here is non of my biz.
The question i want to you to answer is that why did you vote for him in 2011 knowing fully well that he is a pro sharia leader by reffering to me his alleged comment in sokoto the picture you used in your DP...?

Did it start with his adminstration, NO. Will buhari change Nigeria, NO.

Same mistake you religious bigot make everyday, if it did'nt start with his administration, has it ever been eorse likr his administratetion

I try to be objective but until I see buhari reject his pro sharia stance I will NOT trust him governing Nigeria.
If only he can come out and say he isn't still a staunch supporter of a sharia governed nigeria, show me one just one evidence that he won't mix his religion and Nigeria's affairs and I will vote him again.

If i show you thousand of evidence will you believe? how many time do you want him to come out openly to announce is stance on the alleged sharia agitation to stiffnecked gainsayer like you? will it even change your thinking?

You ask for evidence okay here is his twitter account.

“Because they can’t attack our record, they accuse
me falsely of ethnic jingoism; [size=15pt] they accuse me falsely of religious fundamentalism.” [/size]

“Because they cannot attack our record, [size=15pt] they accuse us falsely of calling for election violence – when we have only insisted on peace.” [/size]

[size=15pt] “Even as Head of State, we never imposed Sha’riah. [/size] All my running mates have been either Igbo or Yoruba and always Christian.”

[size=15pt] “I have and will continue to condemn those who burn God’s places of worship, be they churches or mosques and wish God’s judgment upon them.” [/size]

[size=13pt] “As your President, their punishment won’t stop there, we will also ensure Boko Haram and other such elements, are found, are arrested”

“and face the full wrath of the law as punishment for
their crimes against our country. #ThingsMustChan
ge” [/size]

www.nairaland.com/2079042/amazing-messages-gmbs-twitter-account

Infact it is as if he is directing this^^ message directly to people like you because it addresses all that you attributwd to him on this thread, but will that change the mindset of an hypocrite?

Ifeann:
Though the sharia issue is not the only issue I have with buhari, it is the biggest issue.

smh

Rilwayne001:
All your claims up here is non of my biz.
The question i want to you to answer is that why did you vote for him in 2011 knowing fully well that he is a pro sharia leader by reffering to me his alleged comment in sokoto the picture you used in your DP...?



Same mistake you religious bigot make everyday, if it did'nt start with his administration, has it ever been eorse likr his administratetion




If i show you thousand of evidence will you believe? how many time do you want him to come out openly to announce is stance on the alleged sharia agitation to stiffnecked gainsayer like you? will it even change your thinking?

You ask for evidence okay here is his twitter account.

“Because they can’t attack our record, they accuse
me falsely of ethnic jingoism; [size=15pt] they accuse me falsely of religious fundamentalism.” [/size]

“Because they cannot attack our record, [size=15pt] they accuse us falsely of calling for election violence – when we have only insisted on peace.” [/size]

[size=15pt] “Even as Head of State, we never imposed Sha’riah. [/size] All my running mates have been either Igbo or Yoruba and always Christian.”

[size=15pt] “I have and will continue to condemn those who burn God’s places of worship, be they churches or mosques and wish God’s judgment upon them.” [/size]

[size=13pt] “As your President, their punishment won’t stop there, we will also ensure Boko Haram and other such elements, are found, are arrested”

“and face the full wrath of the law as punishment for
their crimes against our country. #ThingsMustChan
ge” [/size]

www.nairaland.com/2079042/amazing-messages-gmbs-twitter-account

Infact it is as if he is directing this^^ message directly to people like you because it addresses all that you attributwd to him on this thread, but will that change the mindset of an hypocrite?

You said,"Same mistake you religious bigot make everyday"

No I am not a religious bigot. I am just fiercely against the sick political ideology called Islam which promotes sex with kids, slavery, polygamy (legalized adultery), domestic violence against women, Nikah mut'ah/temporary marriages , mass killing, suicide ( martyrdom in the cause of allah), stoning, sex with married slaves, christain and Jew persecution, atheist and pagan executions, human mutilations etc.

Then u said," if it did'nt start with his administration, has it ever been eorse likr his administratetion"

I don't know what language u are mixing with English here.

You asked,"The question i want to you to answer is that why did you vote for him in 2011 knowing fully well that he is a pro sharia leader by reffering to me his alleged comment in sokoto the picture you used in your DP...?"

Well 4 years ago I was naïve and thought Islam was a peaceful religion like u islamists keep on preaching. Now I know better. Thank God for that.

You said, "If i show you thousand of evidence will you believe? how many time do you want him to come out openly to announce is stance on the alleged sharia agitation to stiffnecked gainsayer like you? will it even change your thinking?"

Yes the insults are coming. The spirit of Islam once again manifests itself in a muslim. U think insults make u sound smart? It makes you sound like a kid who is throwing a tantrum. Grow up my friend.

I don't want twitter, hi5 or Facebook messages. anybody can post anything on the internet. I need a link to a newspaper interview or video. I haven't seen one, NOT ONE.

Candour:
@the bolded, My bro, do you honestly believe no Muslim voted Jonathan in 2011? If you say they didn't, how then did he win? By rigging?

That's not what I am saying. Plus I am talking about this coming election, you will be surprised that only 2 out of 10 Muslims will vote in Jonathan in the coming election.

Ifeann:
Then u said," if it did'nt start with his administration, has it ever been eorse likr his administratetion"

I don't know what language u are mixing with English here.

It was a typograhic error am using my torch phone and its really hard typing a long response the question i asked is that if it did'nt start with his administration, has it ever been worse like his administratetion ?

Well 4 years ago I was naïve and thought Islam was a peaceful religion like u islamists keep on preaching. Now I know better. Thank God for that.

Okay 4years ago you have not been reading all those anti-islam websites, but now you have been jumping from one anti-islam website from one site to to the other reading what islamphobe wrote to suit their own selfish desire. and automatically it has triggered your phobia for islam to the extent that you think all muslim on the face of the earth are terrorist and all that your anti-islam told you?

Yes the insults are coming. The spirit of Islam once again manifests itself in a muslim. U think insults make u sound smart? It makes you sound like a kid who is throwing a tantrum. Grow up my friend.

Calling you a gainsayer is not an insult but rather someone who is not ready to bend to the truth if shown one, and obviously you have been displaying it here.

I don't want twitter, hi5 or Facebook messages. anybody can post anything on the internet. I need a link to a newspaper interview or video. I haven't seen one, NOT ONE.

If you are shown pictures, newspaper, videos even if you watch him live will it change your mindset, you've displayed your hypocrisy after wimsomx debunked your sharia allegation up there, did you still accept it? No, you said "actually thats not the only reason am against him" so what evidence will change this mindset of yours?

okay here is one:

“Honestly, what do Nigerians want me to do? If they don’t believe I’m not a fundamentalist, what else can I do?”

“And the main religions, Christianity and Islam, they know and they believe in the Almighty God. The question of stealing and short-changing people in the name of religion should stop,” he said.

“For goodness sake, the children of these political leaders were bred and brought up by Christian mothers. You think those people, wherever they participate, they will bring a religious issue? What kind of people are we?

“Nigerians will always bring something to cause confusion while we are trying to stabilise the system.”

http://www.punchng.com/news/im-not-a-religious-fanatic-buhari/

Mintayo:
That's not what I am saying. Plus I am talking about this coming election, you will be surprised that only 2 out of 10 Muslims will vote in Jonathan in the coming election.

Honestly, i won't be surprised if only 2 out of 10 nigerians vote Jonathan. He is a bad advert for Christian political leadership. Even IBB, the self confessed "evil genius", calls himself a saint compared to what's going on now and I doubt any sane Nigerian will argue with him.

Ifeann:
You asked, "If Islam is your problem and not Muslims, then what religion do your Muslim friends practice?"

Apparently u think I should be
prejudiced to Muslims. NEVER.
I detest Islam because I know a lot of what it teaches. Besides a lot of Muslims I know are moderates who thankfully don't follow the quran literally.

You said,"To be honest with you, your comments are majorly anti buhari."
Well look at my past posts on nairaland, its on Islam not buhari. Buhari is the topic of this thread and my opinion on him has been stated.

You said,"So does that mean you've foreclosed the possibility of harmonious existence in the country?"
No. Like I said I knw several Muslims, one of my closest friends is a muslim I respect his God given right to freewill and choice. I have igbo, hausa, benin and yoruba family members, not many nigerians can say this.
I believe in harmony but Islam doesn't want peace in any country it is in.

You said," Could it be you're advocating a wiping out of Muslims with their religion or just total christianisation of the country?"

No. Why should I. But I would rather have Muslims leave the falsehood of Islam which commands them to;

Quran 8:39. "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do."

Qur'an (9:29)-"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura 9:5. "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."

Abu Burda reported Allah's Messenger as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with AS HEAVY SINS AS A MOUNTAIN, and Allah would FORGIVE THEM and He would PLACE IN THEIR STEAD the Jews and the Christians. (Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6668)


You said,"I've read that speech by buhari and I do not still see how it translates to an Islamic agenda for Nigeria."
My dear which of the speeches did u read. Did u just read one and conclude buhari is not pro-sharia for Nigeria. Please do more research. And I hope u are aware that some groups have called on buhari to renounce his pro-sharia stance and he hasn't renounced his position on it.

Look I am tired and I will stop here.

You have asked many questions BUT you haven't asked yourself the most important one. WHY are so many people against Buhari and why are so many people citing religious reasons. U can blame it on the pdp or on less known facts about the man.

You see, lies when told very often will become 'truth' and that's the case with buhari. For instance, you said buhari promised to make the country ungovernable for Jonathan. I myself believed this lie until the federal govt, Reuben abati and guardian newspapers were forced to apologise to him for defamation of character when the truth came out that it was Alhaji Lawal Kaita of the PDP that made that statement. The interesting part is that he's now a campaigner for Jonathan's reelection.

We never heard so much about buhari's 'bigotry' when he contested against OBJ, a christian. It was when Jonathan squared up against him that the issue gained currency because Jonathan and friends sought to explore our ethno religious fault lines to fullness.

Also concerning the genocidal Quranic verses you put up, have you seen the ones in our bible? Do they apply to you? Do you know how many people were burnt at the stake by the medieval church quoting the below?

Exodus 22:18 KJV
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

If you say your Muslim friends are not affected by them, how did you deduce that buhari will want to cut off a Christian's head today when its been shown he has had Christians in his domestic employ for years?

Ifeann:
U did a decent job with the explanation, tho this is the first Time I am hearing this. I will take my time to study this. Though the sharia issue is not the only issue I have with buhari, it is the biggest issue.

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Apparently u just lifted this information off a blog called factchecki.ng with no valid references.there was No recorded interview from buhari. I mean what kind of reference is this;
2. Private conversation with a Senior ThisDay editor with close knowledge of the 2001 incident on Dec. 30, 2014.
It just some random persons write up. Tsk tsk tsk. This is deceitful.

Obviously the texts was not my original words. Notice I provided the link I got Iy from.

The information provided also came with references, three of them. The number reference was speaking about thisday newspaper providing a refutation of the story. Yes, that link is a private conversation that we cannot verify but the writer was simply stating were he got his facts from. It might not be accepted in an academic work but an informal conversation would permit it. The other referenced however put paid to the Shariah misinformation on Buhari.

Candour:
You see, lies when told very often will become 'truth' and that's the case with buhari. For instance, you said buhari promised to make the country ungovernable for Jonathan. I myself believed this lie until the federal govt, Reuben abati and guardian newspapers were forced to apologise to him for defamation of character when the truth came out that it was Alhaji Lawal Kaita of the PDP that made that statement. The interesting part is that he's now a campaigner for Jonathan's reelection.

We never heard so much about buhari's 'bigotry' when he contested against OBJ, a christian. It was when Jonathan squared up against him that the issue gained currency because Jonathan and friends sought to explore our ethno religious fault lines to fullness.

Also concerning the genocidal Quranic verses you put up, have you seen the ones in our bible? Do they apply to you? Do you know how many people were burnt at the stake by the medieval church quoting the below?

Exodus 22:18 KJV
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

If you say your Muslim friends are not affected by them, how did you deduce that buhari will want to cut off a Christian's head today when its been shown he has had Christians in his domestic employ for years?

Did u even read my comment I never said buhari made those statements. Buhari never made that statement, I have even argued this with people. I said it was someone from his camp of muslim northern born to rule elite religious bigots.

You said,"We never heard so much about buhari's 'bigotry' when he contested against OBJ, a christian"

Well u maybe too young to remember but it has always been an issue. Including the fact that he overthrew a democratic government.

You said,"Also concerning the genocidal Quranic verses you put up, have you seen the ones in our bible? Do they apply to you? Do you know how many people were burnt at the stake by the medieval church quoting the below?"

I am very much aware of those verses in the old testament. You bringing this up shows you are open minded which I really like, but it also shows u don't know much about your own christain theology. Those verses are descriptive unlike the quran verses that are prescriptive. I ask you, why are "Christians" not burning witches at the stake while Muslims still commit acts of terrorism in the name of allah, for over 1,400 years. And besides I have mentioned this before, we have a lot of moderate Muslims who don't even want sharia law although their book commands Muslims to live under that barbaric law.

You said,"how did you deduce that buhari will want to cut off a Christian's head today when its been shown he has had Christians in his domestic employ for years?"

Again u haven't understood my comment or u are just making up lies. I never said buhari,"... will want to cut off a Christian's head today." as you put it. This is a lie. I am only concerned about him, a conservative pro sharia muslim spreading the Islamic agenda of domination, go read the quran. Ask yourself why so many federal and public institutions have a mosque within its compound, why the emphasis of Islam and sharia in our constitution. Why their are over 48 muslim countries, why Islam uses al Taqiyya and force to convert non-muslims. Why u had the Arabic and the hausa arewa symbol in your naira. Why is Nigeria a member of the OIC. Do u know the mission and vision of the IOC. Apparently you do not.
Islam is a political idealogy and when mixed with a conservative northern muslim in power it has bad consequences. Why are we fighting our own citizens in the north, killing young nigerian boys and calling them boko haram. Go and study Islam.

I can comfortably vote for a muslim who is a moderate, I am a huge fan of sanusi. I even voted for buhari in 2011, I chose to reject the rumours I heard abt him then . I woke up after he refused to condemn his CPC supporters for killing corpers or at least calm them down. His political ambition was more important.

Finally, I do not support GEJ governments handling of many issues in Nigeria, didn't vote for him. I knew he wasn't qualified and I sang it on Facebook. Yet nigerians picked him. But is he 100% a faliure, NO. At the end of the day this is a discussion and we all have our right to vote who appeals to us the most. I am hoping that there will be debates and clear manifestos soon. I really want to vote buhari again but he must make it clear he won't show religious or tribal sentimentalities.

Seen.

Winsomex,
Am not Nigerian but I can offer my mind on this. First, a few questions;

1. Can God use or has God used unbelievers to lead nations successfully?
2. How many countries/kingdoms of the world are led by born again Christians presently?
3. Are there genuine case studies of effective leadership over nations by believers as contrasted with unbelievers?

I believe there is a myth that Christians are supposed to make the best in the 'market place' seeing they are the salt of the world. Frankly speaking, the ONLY thing Christians excel in above anybody else is in converting sinners; evangelism.

So am against this idea that for a country to prosper however you define prosperity, you need a Christian at the helm.
Born again leaders don't have a monopoly over morality,wisdom, intelligence or even leadership skills. For this reason, I need to be convinced that Nigeria will fare better under a believer than a non-believer purely on account of their faith. We shall reign forever but not now just as we shall live forever but not yet

Ifeann:
Did u even read my comment I never said buhari made those statements. Buhari never made that statement, I have even argued this with people. I said it was someone from his camp of muslim northern born to rule elite religious bigots.

You're jumping all over the place. If you knew all along that buhari didn't make that statement, why did you attach it to him? Is Sambo not also from the north? Is Muazu also no longer from the north? Did you analyse Sambo's DNA to ascertain that it is empty of the "born to rule" mentality? Alhaji lawal Kaita who made that statement has NEVER been in buhari's camp. In fact its obvious you only listen to gossip and not news because if you did, you would have known that buhari jailed him for corruption in 1984.

The guy who promised an ungovernable Nigeria is Jonathan's friend and confidant; Alhaji Lawal Kaita of the PDP.

You said,"We never heard so much about buhari's 'bigotry' when he contested against OBJ, a christian"

Well u maybe too young to remember but it has always been an issue. Including the fact that he overthrew a democratic government.

Mister, pls don't patronise me. its either you were too young or you're now telling a barefaced lie if you say buhari's so called 'islamisation' agenda was a campaign issue when he ran against OBJ in 2003.

You said,"Also concerning the genocidal Quranic verses you put up, have you seen the ones in our bible? Do they apply to you? Do you know how many people were burnt at the stake by the medieval church quoting the below?"

I am very much aware of those verses in the old testament. You bringing this up shows you are open minded which I really like, but it also shows u don't know much about your own christain theology. Those verses are descriptive unlike the quran verses that are prescriptive. I ask you, why are "Christians" not burning witches at the stake while Muslims still commit acts of terrorism in the name of allah, for over 1,400 years. And besides I have mentioned this before, we have a lot of moderate Muslims who don't even want sharia law although their book commands Muslims to live under that barbaric law.

You said your Muslim friends don't follow the genocidal verses of the Quran which you're so sure buhari will obey if he wins. What does that make your friends? Muslim hypocrites or what? Why are you so sure Sambo will not also want to kill infidels? Is he also a fake Muslim?

You said,"how did you deduce that buhari will want to cut off a Christian's head today when its been shown he has had Christians in his domestic employ for years?"

Again u haven't understood my comment or u are just making up lies. I never said buhari,"... will want to cut off a Christian's head today." as you put it. This is a lie. I am only concerned about him, a conservative pro sharia muslim spreading the Islamic agenda of domination, go read the quran. Ask yourself why so many federal and public institutions have a mosque within its compound, why the emphasis of Islam and sharia in our constitution. Why their are over 48 muslim countries, why Islam uses al Taqiyya and force to convert non-muslims. Why u had the Arabic and the hausa arewa symbol in your naira. Why is Nigeria a member of the OIC. Do u know the mission and vision of the IOC. Apparently you do not.
Islam is a political idealogy and when mixed with a conservative northern muslim in power it has bad consequences. Why are we fighting our own citizens in the north, killing young nigerian boys and calling them boko haram. Go and study Islam.

You can clear the air for me now. Do you now believe buhari will not cut heads of infidels if he becomes the president? Why then have you been paranoid about sharia since this thread began?

If you're only concerned about domination and not strict sharia, why single out buhari? Why exonerate yar'adua or Sambo? Do you think they don't read the Quran like me too?

I asked you earlier. Sunday is our national day of rest. From where did we get it? Islam or Christianity? What is the basis of our constitution as it has evolved from the British till date? English law (which is based on canon law) or Islam? Don't you think the Muslims have a right to complain about the 'christian' foundation on which our constitution is built?

So which of your moderate Muslims has ever protested against the national institutions having Islamic symbols? Why put all on buhari's head?

I can comfortably vote for a muslim who is a moderate, I am a huge fan of sanusi. I even voted for buhari in 2011, I chose to reject the rumours I heard abt him then . I woke up after he refused to condemn his CPC supporters for killing corpers or at least calm them down. His political ambition was more important.

@the bold, really?? This is very convenient. What did you think about sanusi dressing like a Muslim amir or emir to work as CBN governor a number of times? Or you never saw him dress like that? Would you overlook it if you see a picture of buhari dressed like that to work as PTF chairman?

@the bold. I said it before that you don't listen to news but gossips. BBC carried a report of his condemnation of the riots.

Finally, I do not support GEJ governments handling of many issues in Nigeria, didn't vote for him. I knew he wasn't qualified and I sang it on Facebook. Yet nigerians picked him. But is he 100% a faliure, NO. At the end of the day this is a discussion and we all have our right to vote who appeals to us the most. I am hoping that there will be debates and clear manifestos soon. I really want to vote buhari again but he must make it clear he won't show religious or tribal sentimentalities.

Did you not see his statements up there? Is that not enough? How else do you want him to show it? He had 19 governors as head of state. 11 were Christians, 7 were Muslims and 1 was atheist. Isn't that enough? I saw a list of His ministers and Christians had the most important portfolios. I believe His SMC had more Christians than Muslims (though I'll need to confirm this particular one)

You'll vote whom you will but pls its wrong to put all the problems you have with Islam or Muslims on buhari. Its not his fault sharia was mentioned in our christian based constitution neither is it is fault aso rock has a mosque

vooks:
Winsomex,
Am not Nigerian but I can offer my mind on this. First, a few questions;

1. Can God use or has God used unbelievers to lead nations successfully?
2. How many countries/kingdoms of the world are led by born again Christians presently?
3. Are there genuine case studies of effective leadership over nations by believers as contrasted with unbelievers?

I believe there is a myth that Christians are supposed to make the best in the 'market place' seeing they are the salt of the world. Frankly speaking, the ONLY thing Christians excel in above anybody else is in converting sinners; evangelism.

So am against this idea that for a country to prosper however you define prosperity, you need a Christian at the helm.
Born again leaders don't have a monopoly over morality,wisdom, intelligence or even leadership skills. For this reason, I need to be convinced that Nigeria will fare better under a believer than a non-believer purely on account of their faith. We shall reign forever but not now just as we shall live forever but not yet

The thing is tiring my brother. How christian is a president presiding over the most horrendous cases of corruption we've had since independence? How christian is a president that has wasted all the gains of years of selling crude at over $100/barrel?

Give me an atheist who is not a thief or waster and I'll vote him

You've done a great job here @Candour

May God bless you

Candour:
The thing is tiring my brother. How christian is a president presiding over the most horrendous cases of corruption we've had since independence? How christian is a president that has wasted all the gains of years of selling crude at over $100/barrel?

Give me an atheist who is not a thief or waster and I'll vote him

And this is the type of believer worthy of emulation .

vooks:
Winsomex,
Am not Nigerian but I can offer my mind on this. First, a few questions;

1. Can God use or has God used unbelievers to lead nations successfully?
2. How many countries/kingdoms of the world are led by born again Christians presently?
3. Are there genuine case studies of effective leadership over nations by believers as contrasted with unbelievers?

You have no idea what we are witnessing in our country.

I call it a behemoth of false religionists that have captured the political environment of the nation for gain. They include plainly nominal Christians who are involved with cults, then we have the Pentecostal churches and their leaders and then finally a select few true Christian believers but who have misinterpreted being Muslim as being evil or incompetent or fundamentalist in the mold of Boko Haram. Many of such people have commented here already.

Unfortunately, the President is just a nominal Christian that has enjoined the Christians good will... until now.

The cry everywhere in Nigeria now is CHANGE! And change we shall see. Amen.