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| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by ooshinibos: 3:29pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
moneY spent on power sector and we still have No electricity ...wow GEJ !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by ollyruffy: 3:33pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
All these lies do not even make sense. They must tell another lie to cover their previous lies. This means OBJ was right afterall. They have looted the external reserve dry . Bunch of Barowooooooos. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Sundaden: 3:36pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
9jas are tired of failed promises from GEJ, the president with the most corrupt set of office holders. After all "stealing he says is not corruption, WHAT A SHAME" we sincerely need a change in 9Ja. They used the reserve in buying houses and lodge meant in foreign accounts + wastage in Fucking First Lady office. Even if oil sells for $1/barrel, that will not stop our greedy politicians from not stealing the % they wanted. We sincerely need a change of govt for the better. My prayer is that God will help and save us come February, if GEJ comes back Nigerian is doomed. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by AfroBlue(m): 3:36pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
niyyie:the same entity that owns most of the central banks, the world bank, and the BIS. 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| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by jpphilips(m): 3:41pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
Why did the Govt enjoy high crude prices from 2008 to 2014, yet Naira never appreciated? The $1b SWF, where is it invested? was it not OBJ's ECA Jonathan baptized and called it SWF? how come you guys are lying that it is the first ever in the country? By the way, Nigeria the 13th largest oil producer (2.5mbbls/d) in the world (population of over 170m) has a paltry $1b sovereign wealth while Norway the 14th largest producer, (1.9mbbls/d) in the world (population of 5m) has a whooping $890b in SWF, that is $178,000, per citizen in reserves Jo, be ashamed of yourself. If you didn't squander the reserves, how come we entered austerity measure less than 1 month of crude price fall and subsidy grew from N360b (yaradua) to 3trillion (Jonathan), did you pay subsidy or did you steal the reserves? we wont ask again till we meet at the polls |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by walezy14(m): 3:53pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
ogene007:I can see that your knowledge about governance is myopic. pdp under Jonah bastardized our economy by allowing corruption to strive which eventually collapsed the system. What you count as achievements didnt commensurate with the amount realised in six years plus $65b he met. He only succeeded in driving naija economy to square zero. His phd in zoology couldnt even help the situation. The primary motive of governance is welfarism of the citizen. Kerosene is #120, petrol is #100, electricity is hovering around 3500 megawat since 2011 after spending over $15b. He has no charisma to turn around our economy. Haba! Jonah is a failure, otuoke people are expecting him. We ne a total CHANGE which is GMB. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by jpphilips(m): 3:59pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
[quote author=MOBJECTIVE post=29602739] Its nice how far we've come. Baba's beef with Jonathan must have to do with the fact that he can't "control" him, as we thought he would. I like how this looks like all ties have been severed with him. As for these allegations, maybe if baba had put in place effective checks during his own time and strengthened government institutions, he would not hve to worry about these things. Too bad his own government was also a failureIn your submission we rather give OBJ third term than give Jonathan a chance right? I wonder why people have forgotten when Jonathans government led by Okonjo was fighting against depleting the reserves. now the rainy days have come and everyone is removing the blame from themselves.It is called "LIP SERVICE" in English language, this incompetent govt did not see it coming. Even still, i think it is commendable that even with the economic issues, this government has been able to control inflation reasonably...if Nigerians look at other oil dependent nations they might see what IWhat do you know about oil dependent economies and their savings? Every mediocre loves Jonathan, not your fault, how am I sure you are not a failure in your own private microcosm? End of story...this government has been slightly commendable.. people should accept at least the parts that are commendable and choose someone who can do better. Accusations like this are not helpful.Every dumb person says this, did one not say that stealing reserves isnt corruption? |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by jpphilips(m): 4:09pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
MOBJECTIVE:Pension is wrong, which village please? |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by jpphilips(m): 4:16pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
MOBJECTIVE:Malaysia is the 29th oil producer in the world (886,000bbl/d), Nigeria is number 13 (2.5mbbl/d). A producer at 29th position have a reserve of $116b after the slide (according to your facts), meaning it was higher before then, the 13th producer has $4b left after a slide with huge debt profile, are you not supposed to be ashamed of yourself? It is only a f00l, mediocre and a m0r0n that doesn't feel cheated when it is pretty obvious. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by jpphilips(m): 4:24pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
J12:The ECR was shared with the governors, not foreign Reserves, they are two different accounts. Is the federal Govt not supposed to use the EFCC to put the Governors on a tight leach to ensure money is not misappropriated? In this case, Iweala was helping them to guarantee foreign loans, paying them federal allocations and ECR, when there is nothing to show for the money. FG is totally responsible. BTW the state Govs started asking for their share of the money when FG was using it to fund elections,2007/2011 rings a bell |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by jpphilips(m): 4:26pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
ogene007:Isn't this becoming an unpopular opinion lately? |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 4:33pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
SeverusSnape:respond to the issue and stop attacking personalities. This is why we get distracted. The query could have come from anywhere even abroad. Let Jonathan government defend himself and what he contributed |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by aurenflani: 4:46pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
MOBJECTIVE:What is this one saying ![]() |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by sevule(m): 4:47pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
ceejayluv:You are either deliberately blind to the pathetic condition Nigeria is in today or you are being paid by Jonathan's government.You DID NOT point out one SINGLE relevant fact that could counter any of my arguments. I have however responded to all your mendacious allegations with hard facts which you CANNOT contest. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by InvertedHammer: 4:51pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
/ "WE did not squander the external reserves, WE embezzled it. Nigerians never cease to amaze me. Common stealing, they called it corruption; now common embezzlement, they are calling it squandering. SMH". ...GoodLuck Jonathan \ |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 4:57pm On Jan 08, 2015*. Modified: 5:22pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
jpphilips: vicadex07: He for come your papa house come dey collect money to chop. aurenflani: What is this one sayingIt would not be wrong if it were just pension. The person who i quoted wrote this: "All heads of states collect on the average 23 million Naira every month, apart from General Muhammadu Buhari. He (General Buhari) objected to collecting most of the allowances,insisting they were bogus and therefore amount to corruption." I dont know any other country that pays former heads of state the same salary as a head of state, or gives them allowances, which is what i infer from this post. This means mr buhari can collect what he is entitled anytime he wants so his current actions are cheap: collect what i feel right and leave corruption to fester, which is wrong. Ignoring corruption is wrong. I hope you get my post now. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 5:01pm On Jan 08, 2015*. Modified: 5:17pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
jpphilips: In your submission we rather give OBJ third term than give Jonathan a chance right?My post was written in plain English. In it I said that OBJ should have been more proactive in strengthening governmental institutions to safeguard the wealth of the people more securely. It is called "LIP SERVICE" in English language, this incompetent govt did not see it coming.That it is lip service is your opinion. That the government did not see it coming is also your opinion. Events that go against your opinion involve this same government telling state governments that the country needs to save. What do you know about oil dependent economies and their savings? Every mediocre loves Jonathan, not your fault, how am I sure you are not a failure in your own private microcosm?I dont know much, what i do know i use to inform my opinions. The rest, that every mediocre loves Jonathan and that i may be a failure in my endeavours are your assumptions, and I have nothing to say to them. Every dumb person says this, did one not say that stealing reserves isnt corruption?This is frankly insulting, and I really do not care which one said stealing is not corruption. In general you are an irritating fellow, an opinion of mine informed by the maturity you've shown. Finally, you did not actually raise any valid points against what i said. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by tefund(m): 5:07pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
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| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
bakynes:What has your father achieved in the last 30 years? Dunce. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Mclick(m): 5:10pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
No wonder SSL was shouting the other time, we are wiser now |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by vicadex07(m): 5:12pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
MOBJECTIVE:He for come your papa house come dey collect money to chop. How old are u sef ![]() |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by babestella: 5:22pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
ooshinibos:Can you tell us how much that has been spent on power sector by GEJ, I'd like to know. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by ooshinibos: 5:53pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
babestella:over to u GEJ |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by vicadex07(m): 5:54pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
MOBJECTIVE:Are u a Nigerian, cos I sinecerely don't understand u. You mean ignoring millions of Naira is a very cheap thing that anybody can do. Why your papa no donate the meagre thousands he is collecting to the poor and needy before judging someone who has decided to forego millions so as to set a good example |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 6:02pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
jpphilips:I could tell you how Malaysia has a larger and more DIVERSE economy than we do, and why this is part of the reason they have much larger foreign reserves, but I will not. You should ask yourself why we have just $4 billion and if is possible to solve the problems that got us to that amount in just under five years. The foolish, mediocre and moronic one is the one who thinks the problem is as simple as stealing. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by adconline(m): 6:14pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
Oil prices started dropping 2 months ago and the govt introduced austerity measure and devalued Naira so what happed to the reserve and money we had "saved" in last 6 years? |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 6:17pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
vicadex07:*scoffs* "set a good example?" If ignoring corruption is setting a good example then the idea of a good example has been bastardized. An example of a good example is Achebe turning down his national award ENTIRELY and TWICE in protest of the corruption that was going on in his home state, Anambra, which was supported by Obasanjo. If Buhari wants to form mr incorruptible: 1) he shouldn't partake at all in what he himself termed corrupt 2) he could have taken concrete steps to stop what he termed corrupt, by possibly sponsoring a bill to stop it. 3) most importantly, he should not have ignored corruption because he found a way to assuage his conscience . Otherwise, he should take the money and stop being a hypocrite. Btw, what does my father have to do with this discussion? P.s I wouldnt mind any normal man doing what buhari has done -- why should normal men fight the system anyway -- but buhari is not the ordinary man; he wants to be the president of Nigeria for Gods sake. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by vicadex07(m): 6:23pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
MOBJECTIVE:So u mean collecting his pension is corrupt abi. Let me school you with a scenario A student is to pay 20,000 for fees and asks and collects 20,000 from his parent compared to his classmate who instead of collecting 20,000, demanded for and collected 150,000 at home for the same school fees. Who is corrupt and dishonest amongst the two. If u had a business, who would you like to entrust it to amongst the two. Or maybe you mean the student should forego his\her fees in order to proove all righteousness to his\her parents |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by sevule(m): 6:25pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
MOBJECTIVE:The answers to your questions are simple and are given below. You should ask yourself why we have just $4 billion? Simple. It is because the current government is incredibly corrupt and mismanaged the funds. Don't forget that our government has not told us what they did with the excess funds that accrued to Nigeria as a result of high oil prices neither have they accounted for the missing $20 billion If is possible to solve the problems that got us to that amount in just under five years? YES!YES!YES!YES!YES! You do not need 100 years to solve Nigeria's problem!!! All you need is a strong leader that would fight corruption and who is not afraid to implement a solid plan for Nigeria's development. Our power problems can be solved in less than 4 years. Even the issue of fuel scarcity and subsidy can be solved in less than 4 years. Anybody that CANNOT solve Nigeria's problems to an appreciable extent within 4 years CANNOT solve them if given an additional 4 years |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
sevule:In part I agree with the bolded. However, 4 years? No country on this planet has carried out a complete development plan in 4 years. Not even the Asian tigers. To carry out a comprehensive development plan it takes at least 20 years, and even then the country will still have problems. As for the rest of your comment i will not reply to. Im just glad you're not small minded enough to believe that our problems start and end with corruption. Personally I even believe that is the least of our problems. |
| Re: Fed Govt: We Didn’t Squander External Reserve by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jan 08, 2015 |
vicadex07:Let me school you with a better scenario ![]() 3 children in the same school are to collect school fees from the same parents amounting to N20 000 each. The eldest of them lies about the amount, and says it is N40 000, so the parents give each child N40 000. The second eldest has no problem with this and so collects the money. The youngest and most innocent however is troubled by this, but to assuage the guilt of taking all N40 000, he only takes his N20 000 and finds a way to secretly return the remaining to his parents purse. But he turns a blind eye to the actions of his fellow siblings and always plays mr good boy when he is around them. Tell me, is there anyway he could have done things differently that would have been better for his family as a whole? Is his family still not leaking N40 000 each year. Is he really helping his siblings and washing himself clean of guilt by ignoring their actions? My own answer: My conscience and Catholic faith tells me even this young boy is wrong in his actions. Simple. |
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