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Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by olaboy001(m): 10:11pm On Jan 12, 2015
Until FeBuhari 14, 2015
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by MizMyColi(op): 10:13pm On Jan 12, 2015
CyberWolf:
OP you are also a coward angry...Where were you when the north was shouting genocide when Ihejirika was dealing with this demon?..can't you people read the hand writing on the wall for God's sake?..Nigeria is full of educated idiooots that can't think with their brain sad..if you eat belle full, you come here and ask useless question angry
Thanks for your input smiley
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by SUBMARINE: 10:15pm On Jan 12, 2015
barcanista:
It is not about cowardice, it is about competence. Mr. President is incompetent and a weakling to be CnC. He isn't the first Nigerian President to fight insurgency but he is the first to fail woefully. Shehu Shagari faced Maitatsine, he even had relative success. Buhari inherited Maitatsine, he crushed the group. Maitatsine resurrected under Babangida, he buried the group. Obasanjo faced some Taliban sympathisers in Yobe, he destroyed them within 2 weeks. Yaradua faced Bh, he destroyed them within 10 days. Only for BH to reappear under GEJ and started growing from strength to strength. Over 23000 Nigerians have been killed with over 500 in captivity, yet Mr. Clueless is blabbing. GEJ suck..
Trash

Did OBJ defeat militants.? No


Did YarAdua/GEJ approach stopped militancy.? Yes

cool
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by CyberWolf: 10:16pm On Jan 12, 2015
MizMyColi:
Thanks for your input smiley
you are welcome angry
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 10:19pm On Jan 12, 2015
Truckpusher:
Using the power given to you to put anything that crossses your path down is the real show of cowardice and so far this is what GEJ has refused to do despite provocations that has been emanating from some quarters of this country before and after 2011 elections.There are many factors that has limited this fight against boko haram and this very problem is what the people of that region need to sort it out else all govt's effort Will become a futile one.

Do you think that the Nigerian army would have stopped Niger Delta militancy if the Niger Delta people had supported the militancy ?
The problem in the North has a face and the northern elites are very much aware of it, but since it has given them a platform to discredit a performing President they will never stop it because power must return to the North at all cost.
This doesn't in any way justify the loss of lives continually suffered in that part of the country. Jonathan owes it a duty to the country to use the power assigned to him to crush Boko Haram. That's what a president does. It's not enough to sit around hoping that the region will fix itself because it has issues peculiar to it. That's not what a smart man does.

Clearly, incompetence is the driver here. He's at loss as to what to do. Hence his inability to effect desired changes.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 10:20pm On Jan 12, 2015
A president that plays victim is a bladdy coward. My opinion
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by MizMyColi(op): 10:25pm On Jan 12, 2015
barcanista:
It is not about cowardice, it is about competence. Mr. President is incompetent and a weakling to be C in C. He isn't the first Nigerian President to fight insurgency but he is the first to fail woefully. Shehu Shagari faced Maitatsine, he even had relative success. Buhari inherited Maitatsine, he crushed the group. Maitatsine resurrected under Babangida, he buried the group. Obasanjo faced some Taliban sympathisers in Yobe, he destroyed them within 2 weeks. Yaradua faced Bh, he destroyed them within 10 days. Only for BH to reappear under GEJ and started growing from strength to strength. Over 23000 Nigerians have been killed with over 500 in captivity, yet Mr. Clueless is blabbing. GEJ suck..
waow!
23,000 shocked (is this verifiable?)

Political sides apart. Isn't there a way for both sides to come together, speak and act against this group in one voice?

This is not me being a politician now, an issue that affects us collectively ought to be faced as such.

Have you considered that GEJ might be handicapped or playing to the tune of some unseen powerful political forces who might be making untold gains in whichever manner from this bloody mess?

But then again, I'm left to wonder if the CIC is clean, if he were, I wonder why this has been allowed to escalate this much.

If he's clean, why doesn't he take down all those that ought to be taken down, why not?!

And to think Obasanjo arrived at his daughter's weeding even before GEJ himself and greeted him so heartily when he arrived leaves even much more to be wondered; I mean considering the recent verbal attacks made on his government, one'd expect that their paths never cross again, yet, there they were undecided
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 10:25pm On Jan 12, 2015
SUBMARINE:
Trash

Did OBJ defeat militants.? No


Did YarAdua/GEJ approach stopped militancy.? Yes

cool
Unlike Boko Haram, Militants didn't go about killing and bombing innocent Nigerians. They only kidnap hostages and blow-up oil facilities. Even at that, President Yaradua stopped them with carrot and stick approach. Under Yaradua the militants were holistically being rehabilitated, under Jonathan they are given full access and even do the job of the navy. Jonathan is a failure in every respect
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by olaboy001(m): 10:27pm On Jan 12, 2015
Obiagelli:
A president that plays victim is a bladdy coward. My opinion
"My Generation Has Failed - Jonathan" ((Would you vote for a man who doesn't even believe in himself or his generation?))
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by chibwike(m): 10:27pm On Jan 12, 2015
No...he is just unfortunate
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by SUBMARINE: 10:30pm On Jan 12, 2015
barcanista:
Unlike Boko Haram, Militants didn't go about killing and bombing innocent Nigerians. They only kidnap hostages and blow-up oil facilities. Even at that, President Yaradua stopped them with carrot and stick approach. Under Yaradua the militants were holistically being rehabilitated, under Jonathan they are given full access and even do the job of the navy. Jonathan is a failure in every respect
At least you acknowledged that OBJ an arrogant military ex officer couldn't tame militants despite having experienced Liberia/ Sierra Leone war veterans like Gen Victor Malu
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by anonimi:
MizMyColi:
But sir, you can't compare the menace of the ogoni people to this BH mess.

This is not about region.
He is commander in Chief.

He is regionless, he's supposed to have an omnipresence of sorts.

This is a massive bottleneck, imo
The major obstacle for we BLACK people is that we are all looking up to one SOLE messiah who is supposed to know-all and do-all, usually in the form of the president without realising that any successful society is such because each & every individual plays his role consciously in such society.


Do we have the same UNITY of purpose displayed in France over terrorist attacks last week huh

This Commander-in-Chief has done quite a lot in dealing with the BH issue despite the hurdles thrown in his way =>


Buhari faults clampdown on Boko Haram members
June 2, 2013

Former Head of State and Presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), Major General Muhammadu Buhari has faulted the federal government’s clampdown on Boko Haram Islamic insurgents.
He accused the government of killing and destroying their houses while the Niger Delta militants were given special treatment by the government.

Buhari who spoke on Sunday on a Liberty Radio programme, Guest of the Week monitored in Kaduna also admitted that the road to the registration of the All Progressive Congress (APC) was rough, pointing out that the promoters of the party were well prepared for any hitch that may arise.

More from: The Nation
We should show better understanding of the ethno-religious and geo-political realities of our country in assessing the government's response to the Boko Haram threat so far.
At least reasonable citizens should be able to that, not so huh
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by gbaskipro: 10:34pm On Jan 12, 2015
MizMyColi:
I'm neither here to attack nor be e-attacked.

This is my first thread on this section.


My question has become even more justified following the recent spate of genocidal killings in Baga, Borno state.

Clearly, both sides of the political divide aren't as concerned due to the forth coming general elections.

But here are two of my blog readers' take on the issue:-




Another Comment



Excerpts from:-
www.mizmycolimusings..com/2015/01/guest-opinion-on-nigerian-governments.html
Yes he is a Coward, are u satisfied? But he is still president. Now are a coward No? Will any of you or your generation Br president No. So go and die u are worst. Republican senators called Obama a Coward and he replied but I am President of United states and yet Cowardhuh
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by MizMyColi(op): 10:34pm On Jan 12, 2015
Alphaoscar:
I still believe the current Boko-haram are working for GEJ and his cliques. Their mission is to reduce the voting strenght of the northern establishment and scare the remain people away from the polling centers.



If the activity of the group is not favourable to GEJ, he would have tackle them and bring an end to all this trash. Imagine this happening in Bayelsa and you think he won't av act decisively?
This conspiracy theory is plausible, but not realistic, imo.

Despite his "seeming incapablity," I will not take it away from GEJ that he's a Good intentioned man.

At your last sentence, that's my point exactly! If this happened in the south or east, perhaps we'd understand the angst of those who want him out of office.

But then, again, I see some reasons with the second comment @OP
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by taiocol: 10:35pm On Jan 12, 2015
Alphaoscar:
I still believe the current Boko-haram are working for GEJ and his cliques. Their mission is to reduce the voting strenght of the northern establishment and scare the remain people away from the polling centers.



If the activity of the group is not favourable to GEJ, he would have tackle them and bring an end to all this trash. Imagine this happening in Bayelsa and you think he won't av act decisively?
Are you fvcking serious?

Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by MizMyColi(op): 10:36pm On Jan 12, 2015
gbaskipro:
Yes he is a Coward, are u satisfied? But he is still president. Now are a coward No? Will any of you or your generation Br president No. So go and die u are worst. Republican senators called Obama a Coward and he replied but I am President of United states and yet Cowardhuh
Thanks for your input
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by taiocol: 10:38pm On Jan 12, 2015
gbaskipro:
Yes he is a Coward, are u satisfied? But he is still president. Now are a coward No? Will any of you or your generation Br president No. So go and die u are worst. Republican senators called Obama a Coward and he replied but I am President of United states and yet Cowardhuh

Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by saharachic(f): 10:39pm On Jan 12, 2015
Yes oh Yes oh
Back to Otuoke Here i come
From where i started my reign of blood

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B42UKxlIEAEqist.jpg
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by dre11(m): 10:48pm On Jan 12, 2015
@Mizmycoli


The president claims he knows those who are behind boko haram
He says they are in his government



But, he didn't have the bone and boldness to expose them


Can a sitting USA president say that he knows the terrorist, he kniw who a trying to distablised the country and its peaceful existence but he wouldn't expose them..............and would still be in office till nowundecided
#think about this emboldened part and u will see that our President is indeed a coward
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by MizMyColi(op): 10:55pm On Jan 12, 2015
@Dre11

This is Nigeria.

Corruption has so eaten into our moral and human fabric as a nation.

Maybe we should cut the man some slack in this area of insurgency.

Why, again I ask, was GMB so concerned about the welfare of them BH agents being massacred instead of those they killed.

Why did he say he'd make this country ungovernable? That's a bottleneck on Buhari's part, imo.

Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by olaboy001(m): 11:02pm On Jan 12, 2015
We don't want that empty,confused ,sick and incompetent farmer with no shoes
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 11:06pm On Jan 12, 2015
MizMyColi:
waow!
23,000 shocked (is this verifiable?)

Political sides apart. Isn't there a way for both sides to come together, speak and act against this group in one voice?

This is not me being a politician now, an issue that affects us collectively ought to be faced as such.

Have you considered that GEJ might be handicapped or playing to the tune of some unseen powerful political forces who might be making untold gains in whichever manner from this bloody mess?

But then again, I'm left to wonder if the CIC is clean, if he were, I wonder why this has been allowed to escalate this much.

If he's clean, why doesn't he take down all those that ought to be taken down, why not?!

And to think Obasanjo arrived at his daughter's weeding even before GEJ himself and greeted him so heartily when he arrived leaves even much more to be wondered; I mean considering the recent verbal attacks made on his government, one'd expect that their paths never cross again, yet, there they were undecided
Thank you. My problem with GEJ is that he is giving in to conspiracy theory. Some of his aides are making him to believe that insurgency is an opposition/northern thing and he gives in to them. Otherwise, what stops him from telling the military to close all bothers immediately news reached him that girrls had been kidnapped? What stops him from declaring full SoE in the affected states sacking the Governors and putting Military administrators like Obj did in plateau?I believe we have a "cool" President, but he needs to rise beyond whatever his praise-singers tells him
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by dre11(m): 11:14pm On Jan 12, 2015
https://www.nairaland.com/1245489/nigeria-made-ungovernable-said-it


Cc mizmycoli

Check this link from 2013 posting and you would see its not buhari that did says it
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody:
Oh, when it comes to national issues, GEJ has shown clearly he is a coward - - no need to mince words here.

Did he get votes from the North during the last election? Sometimes, one has to wonder if democracy is too big a concept for lazy thinking Africans to grasp.

DEMOCRACY - GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE.

It is that simple. You can not subscribe to the ideals of democracy, and label some as southerners or northerners or call a President a Southern one. When he took those oaths when he was sworn in, he made a pledge to protect every Nigerian.

The problem here is we have grown accustomed to these merchants of excuse. They assume office and we automatically expect them NOT to perform. In fact our standards of ggood governance are so low that in 2014, some governors are still celebrating installing borehole as achievement ement. But I digress.

What makes a coward one?
- Refusal to take responsibility for his failures, or any kind of failure whatsoever.
- The inability to deal with an issue in a quick and timely fashion (setting up committees has become the norm)

If you think GEJ has not satisfied both of these criteria, I have nothing left to discuss with you.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 1:14am On Jan 13, 2015
chibwike:
No...he is just unfortunate
2015 and you are still burdened by the yoke of ignorance and foolishness. May Lucifer shine his light upon you. You need it.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 1:23am On Jan 13, 2015
UjSizzle:
Well, I'm not one to dabble in political matters at all, but since you asked, I don't trust GEJ. I don't trust Buhari either.
I understand the country is looking for change, but are we really going to sacrifice our votes for this? Two people from not so different pots using a country to play fvcking chess?!

Honestly if INEC hadn't chosen to disenfranchise me, I'd cast my vote for an obscure party with an obscure candidate.

I'm not interested in debating who's a better evil than the other. If we don't want evil then for godsake go out and get rid of them both.

Two third majority from all 36 states, right? undecided We keep acting like there's no third option.
Thank you very much, lets shame both of them.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Sibrah: 1:24am On Jan 13, 2015
What do you call one who is able to unable at all times ?
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Truckpusher(m): 3:15am On Jan 13, 2015
goofyone:
This doesn't in any way justify the loss of lives continually suffered in that part of the country. Jonathan owes it a duty to the country to use the power assigned to him to crush Boko Haram. That's what a president does. It's not enough to sit around hoping that the region will fix itself because it has issues peculiar to it. That's not what a smart man does.

Clearly, incompetence is the driver here. He's at loss as to what to do. Hence his inability to effect desired changes.
A power assigned to him with too many pitfalls and drag nets waiting for him to slip up a little and they will immediately call it a 'FALL'?

Look here my friend ,Nigeria's politics is very complex to be looked upon from one angle and make your conclusions.

I hope that you are aware that one wrong political decision in this Boko Haram issue will set this country ablaze for the next forty years.

If Jonathan goes all the way out to nail boko haram ,the ensuing violence that would claim civilian lives that were never innocent would be great and the same North won't hesitate in referring his case to the ICC for violation of human right and genocide and you think that the Niger Delta people will fold their hands and keep quiet after all the things that Abacha did in Ogoniland ,Obasanjo in Odi and the militarisation of the Niger Delta for more than 20yrs by the Hausa/Fulani led successive military Government just to ensure that the oil flows undisturbed?

Any Nigerian leader would have be careful not call the bluff of any other region especially when we have this negative division between Christian South and the Moslem North .

The Northern Islamaofascist Oligarchs and the feudal lords of the North should talk to their people to lay down their arms and embrace a democratic secular Nigeria where freedom of religion and expression is guaranteed.

If every region decides to bear arms because we all do have our genuine grievances ,would you still have a country to call Nigeria and a President to blame for the destruction caused by some Islamic fundamentalists with a twisted ideology who has the backing of their people consciously and unconsciously while they keep committing havoc?
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by ayukdaboss(m): 4:20am On Jan 13, 2015
MizMyColi:
@Dre11

This is Nigeria.

Corruption has so eaten into our moral and human fabric as a nation.

Maybe we should cut the man some slack in this area of insurgency.

Why, again I ask, was GMB so concerned about the welfare of them BH agents being massacred instead of those they killed.

[s] Why did he say he'd make this country ungovernable? That's a bottleneck on Buhari's part, imo. [/s]

Lol..you're still new to politics section. That lie/propaganda against Buhari from PDP has been totally BUSTED. Buhari never said he'll make Nigeria ungovernable.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by joseph1832(m): 5:35am On Jan 13, 2015
Ngwakwe:
Goodluck Jonathan systematically tackled the impending catastrophe and bloodshed that would've engulfed Nigeria on the declaration of Independence by Ogoni people in South-South Nigeria.

No army movement.

No bloodshed

No publicity

A true leader who understands his region
Since he could do that one wonders why he can't stop the bombings of Nigerians in the north east, or isn't the north east part of Nigeria?.

A leader who is one sided is one sided and lack the basic tenets and capacity to carry everybody along. GEJ is a disaster already happening. A man who knows absolutely nothing about leadership, a man who is irresponsive and irresponsible to the plight of his country men.

To answer the OP's question, I believe he (GEJ) is a coward. A leader who fails to protect the very lives he swore to protect is indeed a coward!. His comments regarding the bombings proves such.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by MizMyColi(op): 5:43am On Jan 13, 2015
Truckpusher:
A power assigned to him with too many pitfalls and drag nets waiting for him to slip up a little and they will immediately call it a 'FALL'?

Look here my friend ,Nigeria's politics is very complex to be looked upon from one angle and make your conclusions.

I hope that you are aware that one wrong political decision in this Boko Haram issue will set this country ablaze for the next forty years.

If Jonathan goes all the way out to nail boko haram ,the ensuing violence that would claim civilian lives that were never innocent would be great and the same North won't hesitate in referring his case to the ICC for violation of human right and genocide and you think that the Niger Delta people will fold their hands and keep quiet after all the things that Abacha did in Ogoniland ,Obasanjo in Odi and the militarisation of the Niger Delta for more than 20yrs by the Hausa/Fulani led successive military Government just to ensure that the oil flows undisturbed?

Any Nigerian leader would have be careful not call the bluff of any other region especially when we have this negative division between Christian South and the Moslem North .

The Northern Islamaofascist Oligarchs and the feudal lords of the North should talk to their people to lay down their arms and embrace a democratic secular Nigeria where freedom of religion and expression is guaranteed.

If every region decides to bear arms because we all do have our genuine grievances ,would you still have a country to call Nigeria and a President to blame for the destruction caused by some Islamic fundamentalists with a twisted ideology who has the backing of their people consciously and unconsciously while they keep committing havoc?
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Matthewbriggs(m):
@ OP is barack obama and all the leaders of the coalition of arab states with their Jet fighters and Kurds/iraqi soldiers on the ground cowards given that for the past 5 months they have not been able to flush out ISIS from a very tiny city called kobani in iraqi.

@Op are the Americans coward given that even after killing saddam husseni and setting up military bases in iraqi and spending billions of dollar of US taxpayers money to defend Iraqi ... Upon that tens of thousand of people have been killed and displaced, thousands of American troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan ... Till now they have not been able to get rid of the alquedia and the taliban. These groups instead of been diminished are growing in strength and numbers. They are becoming more bolder. Infact ISIS now control close to half of Iraqi.

Before you make statements, or ask some type of questions ... try to have a deep understanding of a situation.

Boka haram is a terrorist organization like ISIS powered by an ideology with funding and support from wealthy extremists in and outside Nigeria. Even if the Military kills 50 today, a hundred more shall rise to replace them in no due time. Even if you kill their leader another shall replace him. The world thought that after the death of Bin landen Terrorism would go down and the moral of terrorist would weaken but that is far from the truth the reverse has been the case.

I would not want to completely absolve GEJ of any blame in this fight. His problem in my opinion has been his inability to carry Nigerians along in the fight and effectively communicate what he is doing to dealing with them. His inability to communicate his sympathy during the wake of the BBOG crisis was very wrong. The allegations of corruption and lack of ammunition is something that needs to be looked into that is if that is not already been looked into.

Moreover the problem of bokoharam in Nigeria is complex, First you have an army who for the past 30 years have been left to rot, both in equipment and in skilled man power by successive governments. The quality of our soldiers are no longer what it used to. They now expect GEJ to fix that over night.

Secondly you have an army and citizenry filled with saboteurs and Boko haram sympathizers. Where as you make plans for attack. They are leaked , you and your soldiers get ambushed and killed.

Thirdly you have a divided nation where the opposition would rather oppose the government in her fight against boko haram instead of contributing her own quota towards fixing this problem.

In Paris artists were killed ... In America the world trade center fell ... In Australia a hostage took over a cafe ... the recurring theme in all these events is the fact that everyone including the opposition came together united as one, in support of the government in her fight against terrorism.

But here in Nigeria we have an opposition that salivates at bad news. Instead of contributing their own quota, they would prefer to make inciting statements. Case in point is when Ihejirika was very hard on boko haram on the onset. Buhari had the guts to open his mouth and say ... "An attack against boko haram is an attack against the north" . This is the type of opposition we have. They utilize these attack to score political points, and have proceed to build their campaign around bad news, finding it joy to become willing tools in boko haram's propaganda of terror.

GEJ is no coward ... He is the first Nigerian president to face this new kind of threat. A threat that even the so called world powers with all their military advancement and funding are yet to contain. Yes he would and has made mistakes as he tries to deal with this threat. I only pray he learns from them and become more effective in the fight against them.
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