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Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by chibwike(m): 6:55am On Jan 13, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
2015 and you are still burdened by the yoke of ignorance and foolishness. May GOD shine his light upon you. You need it.
Amen
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Omimah: 7:07am On Jan 13, 2015
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Did OBJ defeat militants.? No


Did YarAdua/GEJ approach stopped militancy.? Yes

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If you are told the story of the step Obasanjo took (not the Odi step) that proved effective at ending the militancy in the Niger Delta, you will imagine the number of lives of militants that got lost in rivers that made the UN to ask him to soft pedal. Do you know the reaction of other militants when Asari Dokubo was arrested? Do you know why Gani Fawehinmi, known for his sturbboness, pleaded? Go find out.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by MizMyColi(op): 7:24am On Jan 13, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
2015 and you are still burdened by the yoke of ignorance and foolishness. May Lucifer shine his light upon you. You need it.
Lmao!

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Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Greatomotoy: 7:27am On Jan 13, 2015
MizMyColi:
@Dre11

This is Nigeria.

Corruption has so eaten into our moral and human fabric as a nation.

Maybe we should cut the man some slack in this area of insurgency.

Why, again I ask, was GMB so concerned about the welfare of them BH agents being massacred instead of those they killed.

Why did he say he'd make this country ungovernable? That's a bottleneck on Buhari's part, imo.

madam/ it was a disgrunted member of the pdp that said nigeria will not be governable. read this https://www.nairaland.com/2021241/fact-it-pdp-promised-make .thread like this(link) will never make fp
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Ngwakwe:
joseph1832:
Since he could do that one wonders why he can't stop the bombings of Nigerians in the north east, or isn't the north east part of Nigeria?.

A leader who is one sided is one sided and lack the basic tenets and capacity to carry everybody along. GEJ is a disaster already happening. A man who knows absolutely nothing about leadership, a man who is irresponsive and irresponsible to the plight of his country men.

To answer the OP's question, I believe he (GEJ) is a coward. A leader who fails to protect the very lives he swore to protect is indeed a coward!. His comments regarding the bombings proves such.
The Core Northern States adopted Islamic law as the law of their respective States while BokoHaram wants it supremacy above the Constitution or be given a regional autonomy.

Tell us who has overcame ideological terrorism by adopting military strategy as the only solution anywhere in the world? The political solution that needs to be led by the elders of the people are being sabotaged.

BokoHaram tactics may be unpopular among the people but their demands are desirable hence the sympathy to their cause and ideology.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by joseph1832(m): 7:55am On Jan 13, 2015
Ngwakwe:
The Core Northern States adopted Islamic law as the law of their respective States while BokoHaram wants it supremacy above the Constitution or be given a regional autonomy.

Tell us who has overcame ideological terrorism by adopting military strategy as the only solution anywhere in the world? The political solution that needs to be led by the elders of the people are being sabotaged.

BokoHaram tactics may be unpopular among the people but their demands are desirable hence the sympathy to their cause and ideology.
Ideology or not any entity be it human, goat or demon who kills and carry weapons in the name of instilling any ideology what so ever deserve to be wipe off the face of the Earth!.

Boko Haram is no different! Fine I admit the people occupying those part bear some atom of sympathy for their course but as it seems, Boko Haram can't distinguish between friend, family or foe! They gnaw anything/anyone in their path!.

This is more the reason why draconian and obnoxious measures needs to be adopted to nip this disease in the bud. Many countries facing this 'ideological' terrorism refuse to do what is necessary because they fear what the public will say.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by gbaskipro: 8:33am On Jan 13, 2015
[quote author=taiocol post=29738929][/quote]Your intelligence is 1st class, so are u OK now? I agree, does it make u richer?
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody:
Truckpusher:
A power assigned to him with too many pitfalls and drag nets waiting for him to slip up a little and they will immediately call it a 'FALL'?
Isn't that what political power is all about? Even in our workplaces, the tussle for power ensures that the HEAD is always under pressure to perform. The HEAD has to perform no matter what it takes. Nary a soul gives a Bleep who your enemies are, you have the power to squish them if you so desire.

Truckpusher:
Look here my friend ,Nigeria's politics is very complex to be looked upon from one angle and make your conclusions.
Nigerian politics isn't as complex as we think it is. Complex politics is based on ideas and constructive arguments proffered by people who are interested and give themselves up for service. Nigerians politics is a "winner takes all" affair. It is controlled by a motley crew of greedy ignorant men and sycophants. Nigeria's Democracy is government of a "select people", by a "select people", for a "select people".

Truckpusher:
I hope that you are aware that one wrong political decision in this Boko Haram issue will set this country ablaze for the next forty years.
It seems in an effort not to make wrong political decision that could set the country ablaze[i]sic[/i], the President has hardly made any right ones. I heard one of the campaign directors said that if APC wins, the country will sink into a religious and civil war. Aren't we in one already? In fact, if I remember, we have been one for quite a few years. It's been almost a decade of bombings and suicide attacks, the kind that had never been experienced in the history of Nigeria.

Truckpusher:
If Jonathan goes all the way out to nail boko haram ,the ensuing violence that would claim civilian lives that were never innocent would be great and the same North won't hesitate in referring his case to the ICC for violation of human right and genocide and you think that the Niger Delta people will fold their hands and keep quiet after all the things that Abacha did in Ogoniland ,Obasanjo in Odi and the militarisation of the Niger Delta for more than 20yrs by the Hausa/Fulani led successive military Government just to ensure that the oil flows undisturbed?
This post contains lots of fallacies, assumptions and false equivalence. Go through our security budget of the past few years, the amount the government has borrowed and plans to borrow to curb this menace. Let's stop making excuses for Goodluck. If he had seen Boko Haram to be as much as a threat to his political ambitions as they are to the poor indigenes of the North-East, he would have curbed them a long time back QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY. Like he did the CBN governor who dared to ask for accounts about a little 20 billion. Like he did when Tambuwal defected. Like he did at the NGF election some years back.
Our president has simply not shown any seriousness in tackling this issue. This is the honest truth.

Truckpusher:
Any Nigerian leader would have be careful not call the bluff of any other region especially when we have this negative division between Christian South and the Moslem North .
This divide is only imaginary, one sustained by the current crop of politicians for their own gains. They exploit our ignorance, a byproduct of the decay in our education sector. Nature abhors a vacuum, so the spiritual conmen filled that gap and filled our empty heads with stories that have only been used to sever our bond.

Truckpusher:
The Northern Islamaofascist Oligarchs and the feudal lords of the North should talk to their people to lay down their arms and embrace a democratic secular Nigeria where freedom of religion and expression is guaranteed.
And what do you think the role of the Presidency is all about? Has he in anyway reached out to these groups? Has he empowered and stood by them the way his wife did for Wike in Rivers State some weeks back? Do you know sometimes the visibility of a President is all that is needed to send the right message?

Truckpusher:
If every region decides to bear arms because we all do have our genuine grievances ,would you still have a country to call Nigeria and a President to blame for the destruction caused by some Islamic fundamentalists with a twisted ideology who has the backing of their people consciously and unconsciously while they keep committing havoc?[
This isn't a fight between Christianity and Islam. It is a fight between Nigeria and a rebel group.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 2:10am On Jan 14, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
@ OP is barack obama and all the leaders of the coalition of arab states with their Jet fighters and Kurds/iraqi soldiers on the ground cowards given that for the past 5 months they have not been able to flush out ISIS from a very tiny city called kobani in iraqi.

@Op are the Americans coward given that even after killing saddam husseni and setting up military bases in iraqi and spending billions of dollar of US taxpayers money to defend Iraqi ... Upon that tens of thousand of people have been killed and displaced, thousands of American troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan ... Till now they have not been able to get rid of the alquedia and the taliban. These groups instead of been diminished are growing in strength and numbers. They are becoming more bolder. Infact ISIS now control close to half of Iraqi.

Before you make statements, or ask some type of questions ... try to have a deep understanding of a situation.

Boka haram is a terrorist organization like ISIS powered by an ideology with funding and support from wealthy extremists in and outside Nigeria. Even if the Military kills 50 today, a hundred more shall rise to replace them in no due time. Even if you kill their leader another shall replace him. The world thought that after the death of Bin landen Terrorism would go down and the moral of terrorist would weaken but that is far from the truth the reverse has been the case.

I would not want to completely absolve GEJ of any blame in this fight. His problem in my opinion has been his inability to carry Nigerians along in the fight and effectively communicate what he is doing to dealing with them. His inability to communicate his sympathy during the wake of the BBOG crisis was very wrong. The allegations of corruption and lack of ammunition is something that needs to be looked into that is if that is not already been looked into.

Moreover the problem of bokoharam in Nigeria is complex, First you have an army who for the past 30 years have been left to rot, both in equipment and in skilled man power by successive governments. The quality of our soldiers are no longer what it used to. They now expect GEJ to fix that over night.

Secondly you have an army and citizenry filled with saboteurs and Boko haram sympathizers. Where as you make plans for attack. They are leaked , you and your soldiers get ambushed and killed.

Thirdly you have a divided nation where the opposition would rather oppose the government in her fight against boko haram instead of contributing her own quota towards fixing this problem.

In Paris artists were killed ... In America the world trade center fell ... In Australia a hostage took over a cafe ... the recurring theme in all these events is the fact that everyone including the opposition came together united as one, in support of the government in her fight against terrorism.

But here in Nigeria we have an opposition that salivates at bad news. Instead of contributing their own quota, they would prefer to make inciting statements. Case in point is when Ihejirika was very hard on boko haram on the onset. Buhari had the guts to open his mouth and say ... "An attack against boko haram is an attack against the north" . This is the type of opposition we have. They utilize these attack to score political points, and have proceed to build their campaign around bad news, finding it joy to become willing tools in boko haram's propaganda of terror.

GEJ is no coward ... He is the first Nigerian president to face this new kind of threat. A threat that even the so called world powers with all their military advancement and funding are yet to contain. Yes he would and has made mistakes as he tries to deal with this threat. I only pray he learns from them and become more effective in the fight against them.
Neatly placed.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 3:31am On Jan 16, 2015
MizMyColi:
waow!
23,000 shocked (is this verifiable?)

Political sides apart. Isn't there a way for both sides to come together, speak and act against this group in one voice?

This is not me being a politician now, an issue that affects us collectively ought to be faced as such.

Have you considered that GEJ might be handicapped or playing to the tune of some unseen powerful political forces who might be making untold gains in whichever manner from this bloody mess?

But then again, I'm left to wonder if the CIC is clean, if he were, I wonder why this has been allowed to escalate this much.

If he's clean, why doesn't he take down all those that ought to be taken down, why not?!

And to think Obasanjo arrived at his daughter's weeding even before GEJ himself and greeted him so heartily when he arrived leaves even much more to be wondered; I mean considering the recent verbal attacks made on his government, one'd expect that their paths never cross again, yet, there they were undecided
That is politricks for you. You don't want to get entangled in it.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Trut(m): 4:45am On Jan 16, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
@ OP is barack obama and all the leaders of the coalition of arab states with their Jet fighters and Kurds/iraqi soldiers on the ground cowards given that for the past 5 months they have not been able to flush out ISIS from a very tiny city called kobani in iraqi.

@Op are the Americans coward given that even after killing saddam husseni and setting up military bases in iraqi and spending billions of dollar of US taxpayers money to defend Iraqi ... Upon that tens of thousand of people have been killed and displaced, thousands of American troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan ... Till now they have not been able to get rid of the alquedia and the taliban. These groups instead of been diminished are growing in strength and numbers. They are becoming more bolder. Infact ISIS now control close to half of Iraqi.

Before you make statements, or ask some type of questions ... try to have a deep understanding of a situation.

Boka haram is a terrorist organization like ISIS powered by an ideology with funding and support from wealthy extremists in and outside Nigeria. Even if the Military kills 50 today, a hundred more shall rise to replace them in no due time. Even if you kill their leader another shall replace him. The world thought that after the death of Bin landen Terrorism would go down and the moral of terrorist would weaken but that is far from the truth the reverse has been the case.

I would not want to completely absolve GEJ of any blame in this fight. His problem in my opinion has been his inability to carry Nigerians along in the fight and effectively communicate what he is doing to dealing with them. His inability to communicate his sympathy during the wake of the BBOG crisis was very wrong. The allegations of corruption and lack of ammunition is something that needs to be looked into that is if that is not already been looked into.

Moreover the problem of bokoharam in Nigeria is complex, First you have an army who for the past 30 years have been left to rot, both in equipment and in skilled man power by successive governments. The quality of our soldiers are no longer what it used to. They now expect GEJ to fix that over night.

Secondly you have an army and citizenry filled with saboteurs and Boko haram sympathizers. Where as you make plans for attack. They are leaked , you and your soldiers get ambushed and killed.

Thirdly you have a divided nation where the opposition would rather oppose the government in her fight against boko haram instead of contributing her own quota towards fixing this problem.

In Paris artists were killed ... In America the world trade center fell ... In Australia a hostage took over a cafe ... the recurring theme in all these events is the fact that everyone including the opposition came together united as one, in support of the government in her fight against terrorism.

But here in Nigeria we have an opposition that salivates at bad news. Instead of contributing their own quota, they would prefer to make inciting statements. Case in point is when Ihejirika was very hard on boko haram on the onset. Buhari had the guts to open his mouth and say ... "An attack against boko haram is an attack against the north" . This is the type of opposition we have. They utilize these attack to score political points, and have proceed to build their campaign around bad news, finding it joy to become willing tools in boko haram's propaganda of terror.

GEJ is no coward ... He is the first Nigerian president to face this new kind of threat. A threat that even the so called world powers with all their military advancement and funding are yet to contain. Yes he would and has made mistakes as he tries to deal with this threat. I only pray he learns from them and become more effective in the fight against them.
I quote this post for future use.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by knight48(m): 4:55am On Jan 16, 2015
GEJ is not a coward, I critise the killings, but if it was easy.why didt OBJ solve it...the measures outlined by GEJ for Nigeria are great, and hope that posterity will judge us right.



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Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 5:02am On Jan 16, 2015
SeverusSnape:
I concur!...Just watch and see how these rubbish would stop if Buhari should win, They would no longer strike since a northerner has become the president.
I thought they existed under yar adua's government too. Abi yar adua no be northerner..
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by SeverusSnape(m): 5:24am On Jan 16, 2015
Akranez:
I thought they existed under yar adua's government too. Abi yar adua no be northerner..
They were not this violent then.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Comsol: 5:34am On Jan 16, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
@ OP is barack obama and all the leaders of the coalition of arab states with their Jet fighters and Kurds/iraqi soldiers on the ground cowards given that for the past 5 months they have not been able to flush out ISIS from a very tiny city called kobani in iraqi.

@Op are the Americans coward given that even after killing saddam husseni and setting up military bases in iraqi and spending billions of dollar of US taxpayers money to defend Iraqi ... Upon that tens of thousand of people have been killed and displaced, thousands of American troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan ... Till now they have not been able to get rid of the alquedia and the taliban. These groups instead of been diminished are growing in strength and numbers. They are becoming more bolder. Infact ISIS now control close to half of Iraqi.

Before you make statements, or ask some type of questions ... try to have a deep understanding of a situation.

Boka haram is a terrorist organization like ISIS powered by an ideology with funding and support from wealthy extremists in and outside Nigeria. Even if the Military kills 50 today, a hundred more shall rise to replace them in no due time. Even if you kill their leader another shall replace him. The world thought that after the death of Bin landen Terrorism would go down and the moral of terrorist would weaken but that is far from the truth the reverse has been the case.

I would not want to completely absolve GEJ of any blame in this fight. His problem in my opinion has been his inability to carry Nigerians along in the fight and effectively communicate what he is doing to dealing with them. His inability to communicate his sympathy during the wake of the BBOG crisis was very wrong. The allegations of corruption and lack of ammunition is something that needs to be looked into that is if that is not already been looked into.

Moreover the problem of bokoharam in Nigeria is complex, First you have an army who for the past 30 years have been left to rot, both in equipment and in skilled man power by successive governments. The quality of our soldiers are no longer what it used to. They now expect GEJ to fix that over night.

Secondly you have an army and citizenry filled with saboteurs and Boko haram sympathizers. Where as you make plans for attack. They are leaked , you and your soldiers get ambushed and killed.

Thirdly you have a divided nation where the opposition would rather oppose the government in her fight against boko haram instead of contributing her own quota towards fixing this problem.

In Paris artists were killed ... In America the world trade center fell ... In Australia a hostage took over a cafe ... the recurring theme in all these events is the fact that everyone including the opposition came together united as one, in support of the government in her fight against terrorism.

But here in Nigeria we have an opposition that salivates at bad news. Instead of contributing their own quota, they would prefer to make inciting statements. Case in point is when Ihejirika was very hard on boko haram on the onset. Buhari had the guts to open his mouth and say ... "An attack against boko haram is an attack against the north" . This is the type of opposition we have. They utilize these attack to score political points, and have proceed to build their campaign around bad news, finding it joy to become willing tools in boko haram's propaganda of terror.

GEJ is no coward ... He is the first Nigerian president to face this new kind of threat. A threat that even the so called world powers with all their military advancement and funding are yet to contain. Yes he would and has made mistakes as he tries to deal with this threat. I only pray he learns from them and become more effective in the fight against them.
You couldn't have said it better.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 5:35am On Jan 16, 2015
SeverusSnape:
They were not this violent then.
Yeah.. Because Yar adua didn't waste much time in tackling them murdafuckers..
Their leader was killed..

Things changed under Gej because....Hmmm
I guess he was too slow to tackle the issue..
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by SeverusSnape(m): 5:40am On Jan 16, 2015
Akranez:
Yeah.. Because Yar adua didn't waste much time in tackling them murdafuckers..
Their leader was killed..

Things changed under Gej because....Hmmm
I guess he was too slow to tackle the issue..
It was the state government that killed their leader, Not yaradua. Then, They were just a violent religious sect, They metamorphosed into a terror group when GEJ came on board, You didn't hear anything like bomb blast then, Did you?...Some people do not understand What's going on in the north, They have plenty of sympathizers just because GEJ is ruling.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 5:51am On Jan 16, 2015
SeverusSnape:
It was the state government that killed their leader, Not yaradua. Then, They were just a violent religious sect, They metamorphosed into a terror group when GEJ came on board, You didn't hear anything like bomb blast then, Did you?...Some people do not understand What's going on in the north, They have plenty of sympathizers just because GEJ is ruling.
That's because the Nigerian security agencies under Gej did little to contain the escalation of the group’s attack..

So bro..Who else can we blame??
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by SeverusSnape(m): 6:50am On Jan 16, 2015
Akranez:
That's because the Nigerian security agencies under Gej did little to contain the escalation of the group’s attack..

So bro..Who else can we blame??
How did they do little?...As far as I'm concerned, Enough have been done, State of emergency have been declared, Security budget is rising. What else do want them to do?. Terrorism has become a global case, even the US is finding it hard to contain terrorism, No country have been able to completely eradicate it.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by chidekings(m): 6:55am On Jan 16, 2015
This is my view and my view alone.
Of late,i have become a regular visitor to this section,and i have seen that this section has been
turned into Apc/Pdp war zone because of the forth coming general elections.
Comparing GEJ and BUHARI:
for GEJ has really tried for nigeria in his own capacity,i can proudly say that if GEJ is to rule a
well organized country he is going to succeed,but that man is too timid to rule Nigeria,Nigeria
needs a ruthless leader,a very strong willed leader,a leader that can dammed the consequences
and push for the advacement of Nigeria and the well being of Nigeria without any ethnic
affliations and nepotism.and neither Gej or buhari is that leader we need.
We need a change,a foundanmental change
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Nobody: 11:16am On Jan 16, 2015
SeverusSnape:
How did they do little?...As far as I'm concerned, Enough have been done, State of emergency have been declared, Security budget is rising. What else do want them to do?. Terrorism has become a global case, even the US is finding it hard to contain terrorism, No country have been able to completely eradicate it.
They did all that after the situation escalated.
I agree with you that terrorism is a global case and it is very hard to eradicate it.. But our security agencies could have acted faster to contain the situation just like they did under Yar adua's government.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Pataki: 11:20am On Jan 16, 2015
Is this not an act of cowardice and sheer stewpeedity by our President?

Picture attached:

Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Kingspin(m): 11:41am On Jan 16, 2015
No. The coward is you.
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Moz22: 11:57am On Jan 16, 2015
hmmm...quite valid.

Never thought of this for once
Alphaoscar:
I still believe the current Boko-haram are working for GEJ and his cliques. Their mission is to reduce the voting strenght of the northern establishment and scare the remain people away from the polling centers.



If the activity of the group is not favourable to GEJ, he would have tackle them and bring an end to all this trash. Imagine this happening in Bayelsa and you think he won't av act decisively?
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Moz22: 11:59am On Jan 16, 2015
so what are trying to sayhuh
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Did OBJ defeat militants.? No


Did YarAdua/GEJ approach stopped militancy.? Yes

cool
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by Moz22: 12:01pm On Jan 16, 2015
bet why are so tribalistic in naturehuh
SUBMARINE:
At least you acknowledged that OBJ an arrogant military ex officer couldn't tame militants despite having experienced Liberia/ Sierra Leone war veterans like Gen Victor Malu
Re: Is GEJ A Coward? by IgrigiMercenery: 9:32pm On Jan 25, 2015
ibnakogun:
does this nonsense explain the rapidly depletion of our foreign reserves. and the near junk value of the naira.
**grins** Salam, how are you today?, you don't comment anymore, you only peep and run. Why? embarassed embarassed embarassed **LOLS**
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