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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 9:47pm On Jan 16, 2015
pickabeau1:


The closest guy now to him is yaya


Please show me the defending Yaya does when Fernando and Fernandinho were bought to do the dirty work for him.

I thought you knew better.

No DM since Vieira eh? What next? No CB since Campbell? No winger since Pires?

Wake up!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 9:55pm On Jan 16, 2015
debosky:


Please show me the defending Yaya does when Fernando and Fernandinho were bought to do the dirty work for him.

I thought you knew better.

No DM since Vieira eh? What next? No CB since Campbell? No winger since Pires?

Wake up!

Yaya used to seat in the early days before Fernando n dinho

Remember when they used to bring Barry in to let him rove forward

He also used to seat in Barca


Who r the DMs...that Arsenal have had


Quality ones

Denilson? .
Puhleeze..


I'm awake....can I say the same..? grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pazienza(m): 10:07pm On Jan 16, 2015
debosky:


LOL so which is it? He likes buying expensive players or he doesn't?

Ozil was a panic buy eh? Okay, was Santi a panic buy? Was Sanchez a panic buy? What was the panic when Wenger was chasing Suarez prior to the Ozil buy?

Keep digging bro.

Dunno why you have to wed yourself to a theory that simply doesn't hold water.

Midway through last season, it was obvious that Chelsea and Mourinho needed a world class striker, a dependable DM,and a creative midfielder. There was equally a little case of looking for a quality understudy for Azpilicueta who had displaced Ashley cole in the first team.

What did mourinho do? He brought in Matic, Fabregas,Costa and Felipe luiz, no penny pinching, just direct business. What is the result? Chelsea tops the EPL. This is how ambitious managers think.


Arsenal was a world class striker,DM and central defender short of winning the EPL,
What did wenger do?

Bought a rookie tennager, Chambers, bought Welbeck, and brought in no replacement for Vermaelen.

Result: Arsenal would still finish 4th,exactly where we were before the arrival of Ozil and Sanchez.

So where is the improvement?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 10:11pm On Jan 16, 2015
pazienza:


Midway through last season, it was obvious that Chelsea and Mourinho needed a world class striker, a dependable DM,and a creative midfielder. There was equally a little case of looking for a quality understudy for Azpilicueta who had displaced Ashley cole in the first team.

What did mourinho do? He brought in Matic, Fabregas,Costa and Felipe luiz, no penny pinching, just direct business. What is the result? Chelsea tops the EPL. This is how ambitious managers think.


Arsenal was a world class striker,DM and central defender short of winning the EPL,
What did wenger do?

Buy a rookie tennager, Chambers, bought Welbeck, and brought in no replacement for Vermaelen.

Result: Arsenal would still finish 4th,exactly where we were before the arrival of Ozil and Sanchez.

So where is the improvement?


you nailed it

I also believe that arsenal would come 4th behind united

But this southampton team looks like they will not fizzle

If they weather this storm of injuries against Newcastle, Swansea and QPR.. then u have to really really start watching them for no 4

Can you imagine this same wenger was offered wanyama

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pazienza(m): 10:20pm On Jan 16, 2015
Sanchez was only bought because he became available,following Suarez arrival to Barca. If Sanchez was well settled at Barca and he was what we needed,do you see Wenger breaking bank to bring him?

Look at Benatia, Dante declined in form and totally capitulated at Brazil 2014, Bayern knew they needed a new world class defender, they(Guardiola and Bayern) identified Benatia,twisted Roma's hand, paid what ever it cost and bought him. Same with Lewandowski.
That's how serious clubs with ambitious managers work.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pazienza(m): 10:29pm On Jan 16, 2015
pickabeau1:



you nailed it

I also believe that arsenal would come 4th behind united

But this southampton team looks like they will not fizzle

If they weather this storm of injuries against Newcastle, Swansea and QPR.. then u have to really really start watching them for no 4

Can you imagine this same wenger was offered wanyama

Arsenal would still finish 4th. Wenger would always guarantee that. His 8milla job is on the line, like a true parasite,he would deliver that 4th place to stay with the host Arsenal FC.

Last time he was pushed to the brink by Everton,yet he survived. Nothing can separate Wenger from his precious 4th place. *grins*


Why should Wenger buy Wanyama, when Flamini the world best DM was free for transfer? *grins*
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 10:51pm On Jan 16, 2015
pazienza:


Arsenal would still finish 4th. Wenger would always guarantee that. His 8milla job is on the line, like a true parasite,he would deliver that 4th place to stay with the host Arsenal FC.

Last time he was pushed to the brink by Everton,yet he survived. Nothing can separate Wenger from his precious 4th place. *grins*


Why should Wenger buy Wanyama, when Flamini the world best DM was free for transfer? *grins*


The fourphy is assured

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Emaprince: 8:41am On Jan 17, 2015
Who said wenger is the specialist in failures?..who is that person?..abegi make e park well jor!!.

Come tommorrow,arsene wenger will prove to the whole world that he's the specialist in winning big games.

My prediction..City 1-3 Arsenal

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 9:45am On Jan 17, 2015
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 1:06pm On Jan 17, 2015
Spy360:
Obviously Pickabeau and Naijababe are recent members of The Arsenal Supporters' Trust. For those of us who are long time members like Debosky and yours truely, understand that within the available resources at his disposal, Mr Wenger has shown remarkable consistency.

Before the building of the Emirates Arsenal was a top top side- Arsene besides other titles, won the double twice and produced the invisibles.
Paying for the Emirates led to strict and stringent financial measures yet Arsene consistently led us to the UCL.
After paying off the debt in 2013, we signed Ozil and won the FA cup and Community shield. Nawa o!
Currently Arsene is building a new team that according to him can compete for the league by 2016. He has done it before, with God, he would do it again.
The man is a legend, take it or leave it. I am sure a statue is waiting for him, and a stand would be named after him. Respect!

Hahaha

Story....

You r d new one here

If you had some powers of observation you will notice that naijababe is the thread starter

Being on this thread from the halcyon days

Where is Duduspace

Or are you duduspace..

Tell him that Fanshare don crash o
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kashmo: 2:18pm On Jan 17, 2015
pickabeau1:


Hahaha

Story....

You r d new one here

If you had some powers of observation you will notice that naijababe is the thread starter

Being on this thread from the halcyon days

Where is Duduspace

Or are you duduspace..

Tell him that Fanshare don crash o
And who are ya? Kitaun or Slimshay grin

Spy360 ain't even close to duduspace. Spy360 is like an anti-virus mopping attacks/threats against Monsieur Wenger!

By the way, Viera was a Back-2-Back CM!! I don't know how you got away with that on here.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 2:24pm On Jan 17, 2015
kashmo:

And who ya? Kitaun or Akolawole grin

Spy360 ain't even close to duduspace. Spy360 is like an anti-virus mopping attacks/threats against Monsieur Wenger!

By the way, Viera was a Back-2-Back CM!! I don't know how you got away with that on here.

LOL....


Yes strictly..that role was defined by his compatriot.. Makalele

The point was that pato drove forward thru the middle n also helped with shielding the back four

I also said the closest to him was yaya

However that is not even the point
Arsene relied on power of pato, guile of Dennis and pace of Henry with a solid English back 4

That is Chelsea today

What is arsene doing now

Impotent piss pass footie
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kashmo: 2:48pm On Jan 17, 2015
pickabeau1:


LOL....


Yes strictly..that role was defined by his compatriot.. Makalele

The point was that pato drove forward thru the middle n also helped with shielding the back four

I also said the closest to him was yaya

However that is not even the point
Arsene relied on power of pato, guile of Dennis and pace of Henry with a solid English back 4

That is Chelsea today

What is arsene doing now

Impotent piss pass footie

You know, had Diaby kept fit over the years he would have been Viera's direct replacement. If you look in the market there's only one player I can think of which is Pogba. He's not as tenacious as Viera was, and he not a great tackler, either.

One thing for sure is, Arsenal needs another Gilberto in his prime.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 2:54pm On Jan 17, 2015
kashmo:

You know, had Diaby kept fit over the years he would have been Viera's direct replacement. If you look in the market there's only one player I can think of which is Pogba. He's not as tenacious as Viera was, and he not a great tackler, either.

One thing for sure is, Arsenal needs another Gilberto in his prime.

Your last statement is exactly what i expected from.the wengerphiles
Not a statement of his tactical genius or whether Hazard is like Costa

Anyway he bought a 17 year old DM grin
Polish starlet Keys ten
Another gem...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kashmo: 3:07pm On Jan 17, 2015
pickabeau1:


Your last statement is exactly what i expected from.the wengerphiles
Not a statement of his tactical genius or whether Hazard is like Costa

Anyway he bought a 17 year old DM grin
Polish starlet Keys ten
Another gem...

Haha! But Spy360 thinks Wenger is a tactical genius, though. Expect FM lessons on this board to justify Wenger's ineptness.

I heard that Kid is tall, ready to battle it out with his cousin (Matic) on the pitch cheesy Seriously though, I hope he comes good in the next 4yrs.

Le Coq is the new sheriff in town for the time being. Arteta and Flamini needs to be shipped out come July 1st!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 3:12pm On Jan 17, 2015
kashmo:


Haha! But Spy360 thinks Wenger is a tactical genius, though. Expect FM lessons on this board to justify Wenger's ineptness.

I heard that Kid is tall, ready to battle it out with his cousin (Matic) on the pitch cheesy Seriously though, I hope he comes good in the next 4yrs.

Le Coq is the new sheriff in town for the time being. Arteta and Flamini needs to be shipped out come July 1st!

Le Coq has been decent for one or two games but is he what arsenal need?
Remember he was there for the new year gift to Southampton

Now you give a 4 year timeline

That means s fourphy ambition continues till year 4
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kashmo: 3:34pm On Jan 17, 2015
pickabeau1:


Le Coq has been decent for one or two games but is he what arsenal need?
Remember he was there for the new year gift to Southampton

Now you give a 4 year timeline

That means s fourphy ambition continues till year 4

Le Coq has been great in all the games he started! Don't pin Szczesny mad moment on him! I'd rather have Le Coq than the brainless French Terrier! He can keep playing till we find a suitable replacement in the summer, hopefully Khedeira from Madrid.

Nah, I'd be livid if the new kid picks up playing time in the first team! He should hone his craft playing under 21's and during loan spells. The four year timeline is judging to see if he has the potential to succeed in the first team!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 3:42pm On Jan 17, 2015
kashmo:

Le Coq has been great in all the games he started! Don't pin Szczesny mad moment on him! I'd rather have Le Coq than the brainless French Terrier! He can keep playing till we find a suitable replacement in the summer, hopefully Khedeira from Madrid.

Nah, I'd be livid if the new kid picks up playing time in the first team! He should hone his craft playing under 21's and during loan spells. The four year timeline is judging to see if he has the potential to succeed in the first team!


First statement....a matter of opinion
He does not make the club more of a title prospect so there is no issue.

Second statement
Wenger has said he was bought for the first team
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kashmo: 4:15pm On Jan 17, 2015
pickabeau1:


First statement....a matter of opinion
He does not make the club more of a title prospect so there is no issue.

Second statement
Wenger has said he was bought for the first team



I've not been keeping tabs with the transfer. If Wenger did utter that rubbish then he's lost it completely.

Signing a 'top, top quality' CB should be our number one priority!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 4:31pm On Jan 17, 2015
dayo999:
Wenger on Bielik


“Yes, he will go into the first-team squad. He’s a
defensive midfielder, 6ft 2, he has a good energy
level and technical level.
“It’s a gamble but, on what we saw, it’s worth to
take the gamble. It’s an awful lot of money for a
player if he doesn’t succeed. If he does succeed,
then it’s cheap.”


Kashmo
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 4:38pm On Jan 17, 2015
Pace, power and guile

Oscar and Costa each 2 gols

Mouthinho mouths off
But he knows what he wants on the pitch
You can't fault that
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 6:26pm On Jan 17, 2015
kashmo:

You know, had Diaby kept fit over the years he would have been Viera's direct replacement. If you look in the market there's only one player I can think of which is Pogba. He's not as tenacious as Viera was, and he not a great tackler, either.

One thing for sure is, Arsenal needs another Gilberto in his prime.

We all know it except Mr Wenger!!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 6:28pm On Jan 17, 2015
naijababe:


We all know it except Mr Wenger!!!

And his Wengerpologists
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 6:32pm On Jan 17, 2015
Chelsea rampage, Spurs, United and Liverpool win. What a shit day to be a football fan.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 6:33pm On Jan 17, 2015
^^^ on the eve of a game with the champions
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 7:16pm On Jan 17, 2015
pickabeau1:


Yaya used to seat in the early days before Fernando n dinho

Remember when they used to bring Barry in to let him rove forward

He also used to seat in Barca


Who r the DMs...that Arsenal have had


Quality ones

Denilson? .
Puhleeze..


I'm awake....can I say the same..? grin

I guess Gilberto was a centre back or was bought before Vieira. Like I said, wake up!

Yaya Toure does not play as a DM now end of story. Who cares what he did in the 'early days'? Kieren Gibbs was a winger when he first made his Emirates Cup appearance so does that make him a winger now?

Now you're being exposed you're shifting to 'quality' ones eh? Try harder.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 7:24pm On Jan 17, 2015
ok..

debosky:


I guess Gilberto was a centre back or was bought before Vieira. Like I said, wake up!

Yaya Toure does not play as a DM now end of story. Who cares what he did in the 'early days'? Kieren Gibbs was a winger when he first made his Emirates Cup appearance so does that make him a winger now?

Now you're being exposed you're shifting to 'quality' ones eh? Try harder.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 7:25pm On Jan 17, 2015
ok..

You missed the whole point of the discourse

I said yaya is the closest player now to Pato

Do you agree or not

Moreover you skillfully deflected from the thrust of my comparison with the Invicibles- a team imbued with pace, power and guile

You called sanchez for pace

Who is the guile

Who is the power in this team



debosky:


I guess Gilberto was a centre back or was bought before Vieira. Like I said, wake up!

Yaya Toure does not play as a DM now end of story. Who cares what he did in the 'early days'? Kieren Gibbs was a winger when he first made his Emirates Cup appearance so does that make him a winger now?

Now you're being exposed you're shifting to 'quality' ones eh? Try harder.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 7:26pm On Jan 17, 2015
pazienza:
Sanchez was only bought because he became available,following Suarez arrival to Barca. If Sanchez was well settled at Barca and he was what we needed,do you see Wenger breaking bank to bring him?

Now you're going to ridiculous lengths to justify your baseless statement. Sanchez became available and so was signed? Before nko? undecided Is it unavailable players that you sign? Were Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira 'well settled' in their clubs before Arsenal bought them? undecided

Were we given Sanchez for free or did we pay money for him? You claim Wenger doesn't like to buy expensive players yet he bought Sanchez and you go into a song and dance about 'being available'? undecided

Can't you admit your initial statement has no basis in fact?


Look at Benatia, Dante declined in form and totally capitulated at Brazil 2014, Bayern knew they needed a new world class defender, they(Guardiola and Bayern) identified Benatia,twisted Roma's hand, paid what ever it cost and bought him. Same with Lewandowski.
That's how serious clubs with ambitious managers work.

What is this 'whatever it cost' rubbish? Benatia was sold because Roma needed money - what hand twisting bollocks are you on about? And in what world is Benatia now 'world class'?

Arsenal needed a goal keeper and went and signed a highly rated goal keeper that performed well at the world cup - or wait, Ospina was unsettled too. Arsenal needed a RB to replace the excellent Sagna and went in for Debuchy - or wait, Debuchy was injured too and cost nothing even though he was bought for £12m showing Wenger doesn't like to spend.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 7:28pm On Jan 17, 2015
pickabeau1:
ok..

You missed the whole point of the discourse

I said yaya is the closest player now to Pato

Do you agree or not

No I disagree - Yaya is lazy defensively and a liability in the DM position hence the need to buy TWO DMs to cover his failings.

Yaya is not the closest, neither is he a DM.

Na so so revisionism - from no DM has been signed to Vieira, to saying Vieira = Matic, etc. Very soon you go change name again. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 7:31pm On Jan 17, 2015
ok...

debosky:


No I disagree - Yaya is lazy defensively and a liability in the DM position hence the need to buy TWO DMs to cover his failings.

Yaya is not the closest, neither is he a DM.

Na so so revisionism - from no DM has been signed to Vieira, to saying Vieira = Matic, etc. Very soon you go change name again. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by debosky(m): 7:37pm On Jan 17, 2015
pazienza:


Midway through last season, it was obvious that Chelsea and Mourinho needed a world class striker, a dependable DM,and a creative midfielder. There was equally a little case of looking for a quality understudy for Azpilicueta who had displaced Ashley cole in the first team.

What did mourinho do? He brought in Matic, Fabregas,Costa and Felipe luiz, no penny pinching, just direct business. What is the result? Chelsea tops the EPL. This is how ambitious managers think.


Arsenal was a world class striker,DM and central defender short of winning the EPL,

Let me just stop you there and point out your bollocks - Chelski were short of 3 players and came second and you're stating Arsenal were also short of just 3 players and came 4th? What are you smoking?



Bought a rookie tennager, Chambers, bought Welbeck, and brought in no replacement for Vermaelen.

Result: Arsenal would still finish 4th,exactly where we were before the arrival of Ozil and Sanchez.

So where is the improvement?

Chelski has squad players (not first team players) like Will.I.Am that cost £30m. How many of those does Arsenal have? Oh, conveniently you've forgotten Courtois also joined back from loan? How much does the Chelski squad cost and how much does the Arsenal squad cost? You're insulting Welbeck eh? How much did Salah cost Chelski? £11m? Or wasn't he bought from your imaginary 'from the middle of last season' timeline?

Maybe you expect Arsenal to spend more than it earns in order to prove to you they are a 'serious club'.

Whether Arsenal finish 4th or not, only a mad man would claim the squad isn't better with the additions from the past 2 summers compared to where we were.

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