profojah:

Hahahahaha...you called that a judgement??..lol
Bro I double-checked the issue(in a positive and negative way) and I gave an advice which is best known to me....I neither condemned nor rebuked the uncle...
Still Note what I said "exxy follow your heart and pray harder"....

Ojah, here's your post from before:

profojah:

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On the other side Oga bigfrancis, Dont you think falling out of status and going to an unknown arena for someone who struggled and worked so hard b4 getting his visa isn't a best option...and mere looking at this, the uncle that doesn't even help him a bit prior to his visa wahala just told him to do stufzz that ain't help...looking at this on this angle, I can tag that uncle as wicked and an enemy of progress ....
...

You were quick to jump into conclusion by merely hearing from one side. What you did clearly was judging him as wicked and calling him an agent of stagnation. Don't try to deny the obvious.

I guess you were simply telling him what he came here to hear in the first place - that someone is against your success and wants your downfall. Instead of being objective about it.

It is my very guess that you're on this thread for the purpose of travelling to the US. This country isn't what you think it is. Until you get in and live for at least 1 year, don't be quick to judge somebody else you don't have the slightest clue of about how they are surviving.

The decision is exxy's to make. I don't endorse either suggestion. It's up to him to weigh his circumstances and decide which route favours him the most.

bigfrancis21:


Ojah, here's your post from before:



You were quick to jump into conclusion by merely hearing from one side. What you did clearly was judging him as wicked and calling him an agent of stagnation. Don't try to deny the obvious.

I guess you were simply telling him what he came here to hear in the first place - that someone is against your success and wants your downfall. Instead of being objective about it.

It is my very guess that you're on this thread for the purpose of travelling to the US. This country isn't what you think it is. Until you get in and live for at least 1 year, don't be quick to judge somebody else you don't have the slightest clue of about how they are surviving.

Broda Read them very well...how many times will I say this....*from the beginning of what u qouted* I said " on the other hand" and I used the words "looking it from this angle"....so I viewed it in two ways ...the positive angle and the negative angle...so where is the judgement...you're funny sha

profojah:

This ur uncle eehhnn...Nawaoo
He isn't in d location where he asked u to go and not that there is a job already waiting for u at newyork...
And he wasn't in support prior to ur coming to America...My brother, just follow your heart...So far you are living comfortably, and you've gotten a job on the campus which will be helpful in supporting ur finances and other expenses...I'll just implore u not to fall out of status, mk all your wahala wey u do in naija b4 u go America be in vain ...As Yoruba do say " Ehinkule l'ota wa, inu ile ni aseni n gbe"

But we Neva can tell sha, he may have much in store for u and that's why I said u sud follow ur heart

Bigfrancis this what I initially posted when exxy posted his worries...so read them wella...

sirRiddy:
The book no get soft copy and it is old, 1997 last published. Anyway, your boy devise means sha. I used a free trial to get a scanned copy from SCRIBD. Thanks for your help, my brother. I just want to start drafting my generic SOP before tailoring it to each school I will be applying to.

cool bro..Good luck!

profojah:

Oga bigfrancis....hmmm I love this
I told him to follow his heart, But we Neva can tell what his uncle has in store for him...He's been at the state before exxy and he knows every down thing abt US more than him..but i cant imagine a close related uncle to see and pray for the down fall of his own nephew...
On the other side Oga bigfrancis, Dont you think falling out of status and going to an unknown arena for someone who struggled and worked so hard b4 getting his visa isn't a best option...and mere looking at this, the uncle that doesn't even help him a bit prior to his visa wahala just told him to do stufzz that ain't help...looking at this on this angle, I can tag that uncle as wicked and an enemy of progress....
@exxy,...once again pls follow your heart and as MsNas said "pray very well".and ask God to lead u into the right path...

So Bigfrancis , where is the judgement??...

bigfrancis21:
The decision is exxy's to make. I don't endorse either suggestion. It's up to him to weigh his circumstances and decide which route favours him the most.

So I made d decision for exxy not to follow his uncle's word by telling him "follow your heart and pray harder"?
eleyi funny sha!...lol
Nwane'm o di funny too much...makachukwu

profojah:

So Bigfrancis , where is the judgement??...

Exxy, you have a decision to make here. I personally will never advise anybody to willingly go out of status. I assume your Uncle completely funds you. So you do want to get a loan? which you can since you have a job..or you have any hope of getting funds from elsewhere.I have a friend who completed his tuition payments months after graduation, so your school might also have some kind of provision for you-check with your international office and discuss with an advisor.

International students come here..If you do your homework well, you'll get a job after your MS. So the idea of you roaming the streets after graduation is not there..and YES a lot of companies still file H1Bs and GCs for students on F-1

Willingly going out of status is not fun!

Exxy,

Did your uncle hook you up with someone to file papers for you in New York?
Did he seek accommodation for you in New York?
Did he get you a job there?

If the answers to those questions is No, I will reiterate this... "Your uncle is an enemy of progress". I see someone here advising you to fall out of status so you can sort out your papers? Can't you go to school while you're also looking for someone to file for you? As a matter of fact, the easiest place to find someone and network is the school environment.

This person also said you don't have a guarantee you're gonna get a job and subsequently get a company to file H1B or GC for you. True, there's no guarantee. But what's the guarantee you're gonna get someone to file for you or even get money to pay the person filing for you when you fall out of status? Think about it well o. At least, if you finish school, you've got a certificate, you've gotten something out of your stay in America and you can always go to Nigeria to get a job. You're even given preference there. Unlike falling out of status and living the hard knock life in America, working minimum wage jobs, holding out hope for a better tomorrow (which btw might not come soon) thereby wasting your productive years.

Tell the person advising you to fall out of status first and come and tell us the stories of how well things worked out. Maybe I can believe life is rosy for them then.

^^
Ever controversial MsNas

How's it going? Happy New Year.

Amefrica:
^^
Ever controversial MsNas

How's it going? Happy New Year.

I'm not being controversial. I'm just stating the obvious. Happy New Year to you too. I'm doing great!

MsNas:

I'm not being controversial. I'm just stating the obvious. Happy New Year to you too. I'm doing great!

I know right? You na bosslady na.

Just thought to holla at you ni jaree.

if you no get money no go yankeee simple
.... double wahala for DEAD BODY and the owner of DEAD BODY

Don't even near American embassy if you don't have money on you. Don't be a mungo park.

You need cash to survive in US. The way I've been dropping dollars here ehn, I dey pray make I no run make dem carry me come my naija back o.

I entered a church, they were serving pizza, omo, see as I dey munch pizza. Jeez. I didn't even form. Imagine in a. Church of like 30, I happen to be the only black guy. It got to a stage I wanted to leave the place. But the reception was just awesome. Last last I didn't drop my number.

I don tire to see akata, been seeing some cute ones, but brother I don seal my long john for now. Celibate things.

slimmy05:
I don tire to see akata, been seeing some cute ones, but brother I don seal my long john for now. Celibate things.

Betta giv one belle quick quick.... #Mrs Slimmy in waiting! Lol

chrisviral:
Good day guys!
Does American Embassy require Students to go for Medicals and if yes, which Hospitals?
I have canvassed the entire website or so I think and I am yet to see anything information regards that!

Thanks!

Justwise and Amefrica, I sight you guys here, From Canada thread!

Nobody wan answer ni

For student visa they dont but am not sure of the other visa stuff

Francis, i dont really have strenght to type much,you twisting this whole thing, regardless of whatever don't even give running out of status as an option, you have never been there. Walahi, go test people that are out of status Bp, it's gonna be freaking high, this people live in fear until the day they get their papers. You said international student are not sure of getting companies to file for them, why are you still in school , you shouldNt be wasting your money na. USA gave you visa with the believe that you will go back to your home country, that uncle is unfair I will still say it, until you answer the question why this uncle is sending a young guy to the cold of NY to hustle. nY of all places, people have been their for 15 years, no papers. This uncle probably came with a Visiting visa and doesn't know what it takes to run out of a student status. I prefer to suffer in school than roam about the street.

One shrt story, my roomie who graduated in december came for masters and life was so hard on her thinking she will get GA and all sort from UH, well she was unlucky. After one semester, her aunt( who never asked of how she came to USA offer her to come to dallas) she ran out of status amd went Dallas, things weren't rosy, this aunt even said she must pay some of the bills and always give her attitude. Getting a man to file for her prove abortive, she couldn't sleep again, she has lost her status and no papers. She had to look for way to reinstatement, it's a shitty process and if doesn't get through , mehn it's big shit. just pass a questionnaire to people that are out of status, regardless of how much they make from whatever jobs they do, they are not happy with their situation, I have met few. They want to be back in school. Trust me. This arrangie or real marriage thing is a wahala proces on it's own. A lot of people are strucked just the 2 years green card just because they found out their Mariage was not genuine. Finally , just because it works for jack doesn't mean it will work for bull.

bigfrancis21:


Zeezah, don't get me wrong. I was not supporting his uncle neither was I advising him to fall out of status. I detailed in entirety life in America and what it entails. A lot of people here were already quick to judge his uncle as 'bad belle' and wanting his downfall, many of whom don't know the least about life in America.

First of all, are you even aware that there are international students who came here to study and after graduation couldn't get a company to hire them? These students finally settled for finding someone they like after 'roaming the same streets for months' and getting married to someone - the very same permanent residency process his uncle told him about? Are you trying to tell me that every international student who graduates from school in the US gets a job on graduation? I don't mean to be pessimistic but let us be realistic here. Company filing is a competitive process and not everyboy who graduates gets a company to file for them. In fact, most international students get their papers through marriage.

A classmate of mine graduated this last fall semester with no job, after intensely job hunting and having a couple of interviews and calls. Guess what? He's currently looking to date someone so he can legalize his stay in the US. Don't make it sound like getting married to someone you like is a bad idea when more than 60% of the time, international students take that route. It's all left to you as an international student. You either choose to go to school now and fight for your papers later or get your papers now and go to school later. The only difference being that one route is easier for some people than the other.

slimmy05:
I don tire to see akata, been seeing some cute ones, but brother I don seal my long john for now. Celibate things.

Hmmmm.. I cant shout and i cant laugh here..

Comedian Slimmy

exxy:
House i need advice ooo, my uncle in the state called me yesterday and told me to leave school(fall out of status) so that i can go work in newyork. before now, this same uncle didn't support my coming to the state, financially and otherwise. but now he wants me to leave school to a state where his not even in. He was saying who is going to pay my tuition, who will do this, who will do that, i said sir, i have gotting 2 jobs on campus, my department has schorship, and more over i have paid half of my tuition(1500) my tuition is about $3k, i dont stay on campus, and my feeding is garanted, accomdation is ok, feeding is ok, but my uncle said i should forget that one, and see to what his telling me. House i need ur advice oo, my uncle wan kill me.

Zeezahbee, imperiouxx, bigfrancis21, walspring, MsNas and others make una look into the matter oo

I told you something back then in Nigeria before you left, i hope you will still remember,is like you dont know that your are highly favoured by God and keep asking for that favour and make sure you do what you wont regret concerning this issue.

I still dont know why your uncle surface now even though he has a good plan for you, why cant he aid you since the beginning of your visa application and why now? Sending someone to help you where is he is not located is automatically turning you into slavery. (You need to flash back now)

Anyway i wont talk too much on this because you need to read and digest everything posted on this thread concerning your question and decide for yourself.

I guess you already made that decision but just cross checking with us here so that you wont blame yourself..

But i suggest you contact your people here for more advice

To whom it may concern,

I am not going to go back pages to read the Genesis to Revelation of this story but I will just give my small advise and experience.... I will not advise you to go out of status because your school reports such to SEVIS and that means you're to leave the country for that period... If you don't, that goes into your record.... To fall back into status, SEVIS has to give you the go ahead and from a friend who was out of status for less than a month.... That period is scary as hell because any small issue, you can be deported...

About finding a job after school, from my experience... I got one, lots of friends got... So there is hope as long as there is God... So don't say now your in the USA, you forget God.... Hold on to Him tight and put your fate in God not with one girl you don't know.... Especially NY babes, I have heard their gist and they can be frustrating when they know it's about the paper....

I always say if you can't afford this journey, do not embark on it.... But it's your cross to bear... Sha if you dey marry, make I know... I have not still attended a wedding in this country, still looking for my first...

And about the so called uncle, if that's the advise he gives his nephew then forget about him...

By the way, being a resident doesn't guarantee getting a job... There is a reason lots of Nigerians end up with menial jobs because once that paper is there, the zeal to go to school leaves and you just want to start making money even though small... So accomplish your number one that you came to achieve in this country then think about papers

Kpolli, it just ain't easy my brother. I will give anything to be on status oo, I remember when I first arrived and was stranded chaiii, i didnt have anyone in texas and I wan cry Chaii but now I am adapting. Once your school don't reinstate you or sevis say NO , omo it's deportation list. Its hard to survive but I dey look up to baba God every morning, na hin bring me come America o, God has been good o. How's life ? You in louisana right ?

kpolli:
To whom it may concern,

I am not going to go back pages to read the Genesis to Revelation of this story but I will just give my small advise and experience.... I will not advise you to go out of status because your school reports such to SEVIS and that means you're to leave the country for that period... If you don't, that goes into your record.... To fall back into status, SEVIS has to give you the go ahead and from a friend who was out of status for less than a month.... That period is scary as hell because any small issue, you can be deported...

About finding a job after school, from my experience... I got one, lots of friends got... So there is hope as long as there is God... So don't say now your in the USA, you forget God.... Hold on to Him tight and put your fate in God not with one girl you don't know.... Especially NY babes, I have heard their gist and they can be frustrating when they know it's about the paper....

I always say if you can't afford this journey, do not embark on it.... But it's your cross to bear... Sha if you dey marry, make I know... I have not still attended a wedding in this country, still looking for my first...

dejiomos:

Betta giv one belle quick quick.... #Mrs Slimmy in waiting! Lol

18years in bondage. You don't want to know about child support.

profojah:

So I made d decision for exxy not to follow his uncle's word by telling him "follow your heart and pray harder"?
eleyi funny sha!...lol
Nwane'm o di funny too much...makachukwu

Actually, that post wasn't referring to you at all in no way. It's incomprehensible to me why you're trying to twist a connection out of it to you.

zeezahbee:
Kpolli, it just ain't easy my brother. I will give anything to be on status oo, I remember hen I first arrived and was stranded chaiii, I wan cry but now I am adapting. Once your school don't reinstate you, omo it's deportation list. Its hell o. How's life ? You in louisana right ?

Life is good ooo....

No I don't stay in the South anymore.... I stay in the West now...

How is Houston?? That's one city I wish I was staying in, I miss Naija activities

portelli:
my good pple , pls my course start date is August 22, 2015 and I have paid for sevis fee, when can I apply for visa and how many months does sevis fee receipt last before it expires?

Sevis fee lasted for one year

You go to Gtbank and pay for the visa fee, make sure you go along with you International Passport

Go to the visa interview appointment page and apply

You can apply 120 days to your resumption..

If i am not wrong you can May ending or Early June

kpolli:


Life is good ooo....

No I don't stay in the South anymore.... I stay in the West now...

How is Houston?? That's one city I wish I was staying in, I miss Naija activities

Houston is fine o, i can't leave Houston o, I dey enjoy am. Have visited some other states and I just conclude say Houston is my small Lagos. Every weekend owambe and frequent amala and ewedu. I can't run out of status lailai

zeezahbee:
Francis, i dont really have strenght to type much,you twisting this whole thing, regardless of whatever don't even give running out of status as an option, you have never been there. Walahi, go test people that are out of status Bp, it's gonna be freaking high, this people live in fear until the day they get their papers. You said international student are not sure of getting companies to file for them, why are you still in school , you shouldNt be wasting your money na. USA gave you visa with the believe that you will go back to your home country, that uncle is unfair I will still say it, until you answer the question why this uncle is sending a young guy to the cold of NY to hustle. nY of all places, people have been their for 15 years, no papers. This uncle probably came with a Visiting visa and doesn't know what it takes to run out of a student status. I prefer to suffer in school than roam about the street.

One shrt story, my roomie who graduated in december came for masters and life was so hard on her thinking she will get GA and all sort from UH, well she was unlucky. After one semester, her aunt( who never asked of how she came to USA offer her to come to dallas) she ran out of status amd went Dallas, things weren't rosy, this aunt even said she must pay some of the bills and always give her attitude. Getting a man to file for her prove abortive, she couldn't sleep again, she has lost her status and no papers. She had to look for way to reinstatement, it's a shitty process and if doesn't get through , mehn it's big shit. just pass a questionnaire to people that are out of status, regardless of how much they make from whatever jobs they do, they are not happy with their situation, I have met few. They want to be back in school. Trust me. This arrangie or real marriage thing is a wahala proces on it's own. A lot of people are strucked just the 2 years green card just because they found out their Mariage was not genuine. Finally , just because it works for jack doesn't mean it will work for bull.

There's a difference between going to school because you have the funds and not having the funds to go to school at all. These are entirely 2 different scenarios. Let's say I have the money to go to school, why shouldn't I go to school? If Exxy had the full amount for school, would we be here debating in the first place whether or not he should go to school? For someone who doesn't have the funds to pay through school, it doesn't make sense registering in school in the first place when you can't afford it because you impossibly cannot owe your way through school in America. Paying part or no tuition, registering in school, and taking classes only to fall out midway into the program because of inability to pay tuition for the following semester makes no sense. Not to think of falling out of status with bills from tuition you still owe. Struggling through school in America is more possible with partial support from home, family members or personal savings. The rest can be made up from dedicated hardwork by the student at both work and classes. I've seen this work for some students and for those students, they either had partial or little support from home, or from personal savings, at least to pay towards tuition. The rest were made up for by on-campus jobs for living expenses.

For every 1 case of 'falied marriage attempt' you give there are 50 successful attempts. You cannot simply compare marriages at surface levels. Details vary. Some couples might be truly in love with themselves and for some the proof of love isn't all that apparent. I might also want to add that dating+marriage seems to favour guys more than girls, especially black guys. There seems to be a general desire for black guys that cuts across ladies from several races and thus a guy wouldn't find it difficult finding someone he likes and who likes him in return, than there is for females. I'm just saying.

Moreover, his uncle might not have given him advice out of the blues. He must probably have seen it work before to have suggested it to him.

wierdpsycho:
if you no get money no go yankeee simple
.... double wahala for DEAD BODY and the owner of DEAD BODY

slimmy05:
Don't even near American embassy if you don't have money on you. Don't be a mungo park.

You need cash to survive in US.

I didn't have monie wen I left Naija, I still came and I am still surviving, as a full blooded Nigerian dat I am lol. But make nobody use me as example o, my way nd ur way different. Wierd psycho nd slimmy r right but I will modify by saying have monie 2carry u for atleast 1-2 semesters b4 u come, wen d monie finish if u r a true blooded Nigerian u go rough am if u b half blood or aje na double wahala for dead body o lol. Both Big Francis and Ms Nas r correct in their own right, the botomline is dat everybody way for yankee different, ur way mayb 2do masters after masters 2remain here, anoda person way cud b not 2even near school frm d day dey land, anoda person fit folow akata find his/her way, anoda person fit do phd, anoda person join army, anoda person fit just hit d streets 2do hide and seek with immigration. I know a guy dat has been out of status for over 25yrs he just got married Nov last year 2a citizen dat was his way o. It wasn't rosy but he roughed it, so like I said if u b half blooded Nigerian know d way u wan folow. Everybody know ur way.

zeezahbee:
Houston is fine o, i can't leave Houston o, I dey enjoy am. Have visited some other states and I just conclude say Houston is my small Lagos. Every weekend owambe and frequent amala and ewedu. I can't run out of status lailai

Well there is Atlanta (to me it's a better). Frequent amala ke, I think I am going to apply for a transfer to the Texas office then

mandybaby2007:


I didn't have monie wen I left Naija, I still came and I am still surviving, as a full blooded Nigerian dat I am lol. But make nobody use me as example o, my way nd ur way different. Wierd psycho nd slimmy r right but I will modify by saying have monie 2carry u for atleast 1-2 semesters b4 u come, wen d monie finish if u r a true blooded Nigerian u go rough am if u b half blood or aje na double wahala for dead body o lol. Both Big Francis and Ms Nas r correct in their own right, the botomline is dat everybody way for yankee different, ur way mayb 2do masters after masters 2remain here, anoda person way cud b not 2even near school frm d day dey land, anoda person fit folow akata find his/her way, anoda person fit do phd, anoda person join army, anoda person fit just hit d streets 2do hide and seek with immigration. I know a guy dat has been [i]out of status for over 25yrs [/i]he just got married Nov last year 2a citizen dat was his way o. It wasn't rosy but he roughed it, so like I said if u b half blooded Nigerian know d way u wan folow. Everybody know ur way.

Lmfao!!!!!!!

mandybaby2007:


I didn't have monie wen I left Naija, I still came and I am still surviving, as a full blooded Nigerian dat I am lol. But make nobody use me as example o, my way nd ur way different. Wierd psycho nd slimmy r right but I will modify by saying have monie 2carry u for atleast 1-2 semesters b4 u come, wen d monie finish if u r a true blooded Nigerian u go rough am if u b half blood or aje na double wahala for dead body o lol. Both Big Francis and Ms Nas r correct in their own right, the botomline is dat everybody way for yankee different, ur way mayb 2do masters after masters 2remain here, anoda person way cud b not 2even near school frm d day dey land, anoda person fit folow akata find his/her way, anoda person fit do phd, anoda person join army, anoda person fit just hit d streets 2do hide and seek with immigration. I know a guy dat has been out of status for over 25yrs he just got married Nov last year 2a citizen dat was his way o. It wasn't rosy but he roughed it, so like I said if u b half blooded Nigerian know d way u wan folow. Everybody know ur way.

Lollll. Any reason as to why the person waited 25 years to finally get married? I'm thinking it was more of a personal choice not to get married all these years. He could have married much earlier if he wanted to.

bigfrancis21:


Lollll. Any reason as to why the person waited 25 years to finally get married? I'm thinking it was more of a personal choice not to get married all these years. He could have married much earlier if he wanted to.

Well he couldn't find any1 but lik u said yea twas self inflicted, he needed 2marry for papers but he didn't jst want it to b for papers, in as much as he needed papers he also wanted real marriag too 2make it worse he insisted on a Nigerian girl nd specificaly from his state(akwaibom) and offcourse such girls dat r citizens dier shakara no b here, plus most will insist u do full traditional rights on dier head b4 u smell paper especialy wen dey know u r in a precarious situation nd dey wanna b sure u aren't using dem, so he dated a few but none worked out, still he insisted it must b a Nigerian girl from his place dats how 25yrs went by. Eventualy he saw how futile twas to insist on such specifications so he eventualy married a well natured akata lady(who had no child or baby daddy drama lol). That's how his 25yrs of being an illegal undocumented allien ended.