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personal59:
If what benefit is the like to me?

Is tithe compulsory and? if yes, who are we to pay to? Is tithe a gift? If yes how is it a gift and also what is he doing with its own gift cos he never talk about it

ceejay80:
E no get church again ,e come remember say dem no dey force people for offering

personal59:
U pickin of yesterday u no even knw history


I can't start lecturing u on your crammed question in which u av no basis for but was just told and u never ask nor make findings on how it all happen but will giv u ans to just one of d question
On fela
The Is a decree that nobody should hold onto any foreign currency just to stop corruption den fela took a tour to UK nd was given foreign currency instead of him to transfer he decided to come in with d money and was arrested is just a matter of alagidi pade alagidi to ni ida lowo ( stubborn man meeting another tough man who has a sword and yet he his still proving stubborn what do u expect he was slashed) so pls for ans on others mk enquiry from ur blind teacher)

Buhari also has nothing to do with d topic don't let ur foolishness keep pushing u. Questions u no find out, post na irrelevances u comment u av to think well pls.

I will leave u with this qoute:

A foolish man report of what a wise man says can never be the same because he foolishly interpret what he heard into something he can understand.

Izz9111:
Change from freedom to evil agenda of GMB, U want activate reverse mode of the country by voting buhari. with little education and no clear vision for the country. he is now a democrat a person that stole president shagari's mandate in a fraudulent manner, still he not kworopt. He is responsible what ever thing that happened to Nija today because he truncated democracy in this country and paved way for military to loot Nigeria.
So, how has he transformed to peoples general, haven't done any thing to improve human development in any way, no foundation, no school built, no developmental interest in any way, so what is he going to offer to Nigerians. 1 to fight kworoption and reduce pump price and so what. what happened to all Nigerians and other sectors of life?

Atmmachine:
Who killed Ben Ogedengbe by a death penalty for a crime that didn't carry death penalty when he committed it?
Who doesn't attend the Federal Executive Council meetings yet collects his allowances?
Who cancelled former Lagos Governor Jakande's metroline and forfeited the $50 million paid for it by the then Lagos State Government?
Who used Violence to stop the 1985 National Conference of the National Association of Nigeria Students?
Who jailed Tai Solarin and denied him his asthma drugs simply because he campaigned against military rule and for democracy?
Who Jailed Nduka Irabor and Tunde Thompson for writing a truthful report which embarrassed his Government?
Who raided respected Papa Awolowo's house and seized his passport so he couldn't travel out of the country? Was he also corrupt?
Who threw Former Vice President Alex Ekweme in jail even though it was proven that Ekweme never stole any money?
Who jailed honest and respected Pa Adekunle Ajasin?
Who jailed Fela Kuti in I984 for singing against the dictatorial tendencies of his Military Government?
Who banned the Nigeria Medical Association (NMA) during his regime?
Who stopped the Ooni of Ife from traveling abroad simply because he visited the holy land of Israel in 1984?
Who broke up the press conference of ASSU in 1984 and detained four of their executives?
Who jailed Beko Ransome Kuti who only demanded for the release of his brother?

Weah96:
He's polishing a turd and trying to pass it off as a piece of diamond. What are you saying, Sir?

I've also seen some radical snake charmers that work with real, venomous snakes. There is deception in art, believe me. TB Joshua is practicing magic, the cheap one.

Temotala:
Provide some proof for your statements?? I agree he is unconventional but Prophet T.B. Joshua is undoubtedly the most genuine of the Pentecostal pastors i have ever seen. If you are not sure of him, take time out to watch Emmanuel TV. It's raw, real and radical!

Weah96:
TB Joshua runs a faith healing business empire. Faith healers are no different from snake charmers.

It's all a bunch of lies.

Soso990240:
I just love d way This Man speaks..The Raw fact.Be blessed Man of God.

MarkMiwerds:
It is ironic how T.B. Joshua stated that God had the final say, yet T.B. does not allow God to say it.

T.B. instead insists that it is right to take tithes. God's Word says otherwise. God's Word says His holy tithes were to be observed in Israel, and that commandment to tithe He gave to no other nation.

T.B. Joshua is placing his opinion above God's Word. Very dangerous.

Adikam:
women brain doom

Temotala:
Provide some proof for your statements?? I agree he is unconventional but Prophet T.B. Joshua is undoubtedly the most genuine of the Pentecostal pastors i have ever seen. If you are not sure of him, take time out to watch Emmanuel TV. It's raw, real and radical!

MarkMiwerds:
I wrote this article yesterday afternoon...

What Is Your Problem?
by Ronald W Robey

Do you tithe 10% of your income to your local Church? Have you “tithed” faithfully for several years and not seen the results that you expected? The Preacher promised you God would “rebuke the devourer” if you would just obey the command to tithe, and yet, you still experience many health problems? Your garden doesn't seem to flourish as well as it should?

Let me ask….

Would you consider not tithing 10% of your income to your Church? Believe it or not, those health problems may be directly connected to your tithing. Your vegetation not flourishing may be directly related to your tithing. Notice:

Deuteronomy 28:35 The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.

The above verse, and pretty much the whole chapter beginning at verse 14, is God’s pronouncement of the curses that He gave to the children of Israel for disobedience to His Law. Notice the above verse says the LORD would place a botch (skin cancer) in the knees and legs, even on the whole body because of disobedience to the Law that He handed down to Moses for the children of Israel. And not just botches, but madness, (insanity) blindness, and astonishment of the heart. (confusion)

You may say, “Yes, but I am not under the Law. I am under Grace. Those illnesses and curses cannot apply to me.”

Oh really? Have you considered the following verse?

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Stop and think for a moment. Is not the command to tithe a command in the Mosaic Law? Are you not attempting to keep that one command written in the Law?

But though you attempt to obey God's command to tithe, the fact is, you fail miserably... even when you give 10% of your money faithfully to your local pastor.

Notice the command concerning God's holy tithes. Read it carefully and prayerfully...

Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD.
Leviticus 27:31 And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.
Leviticus 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
Leviticus 27:33 He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.

The answer is obvious. It is indeed in the Mosaic Law. There is no command for tithes prior to the Mosaic Law being handed down to Moses. Nor is there a command to tithe after the destruction of the Jewish Temple in AD 70.

And the Word of God says if you wish to be under the Law, you must keep the whole Law. (see Gal. 3:10 above) Now realize this...

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


When you heard your pastor preach that Malachi 3:8-10 is God command for you to tithe, and you yielded to that message, you placed yourself in the jurisdiction of the Mosaic Law, its blessings, and it’s curses included.

Package deal.

Now, you might think. “But I am tithing, so I am not breaking the Law. Therefore, the curses associated with breaking the Law cannot be applied to my situation.” Again, you would be wrong… for the following two reasons.

1. Galatians 3:10 above says if you place yourself under the Law, you are a debtor to do the whole Law…. not just tithing. You must obey all the commandments contained in the ordinances of the Mosaic Law if you submit to any one of those commandments.

2. James 2:10 states that if we offend in one point of the Law, we are guilty of all the Law. Again, it is a package deal. Even if you were not required to keep the other commandments contained in the ordinances of the Mosaic Law, and the only command you were required to keep was the tithe command, you have still failed miserably.

God said His holy tithes were to be agricultural, not money. (see Leviticus 27:30-33 above) Because you choose to place yourself under the jurisdiction of the Mosaic Law, you break the Law when you attempt to tithe money instead of agricultural produce and livestock as the Law commands.

Further, God said His tithe was to go to the Levites, widows, orphans and strangers dwelling in Canaan, (see Numbers 18:21-28; Deuteronomy 14:28-29) not to pastors of Church's on Gentile soil.

As you can see, it is possible that your skin cancer, your bad knees, your many health problems, may well be a result of your tithing. You have placed yourself under the Law and may be reaping the consequences of disobedience to that Law.

Might be a good time to read Deuteronomy 28 in its entirety to see if any of the other curses might apply to your current situation.

Uh-huh.

Oh, doctors may be able to treat the skin cancer. They may be able to do knee replacement as well. They may even be able to treat many other illnesses you have contracted. But at what cost? Money that your household could have used, money that your neighbor could have used, gone to doctors and hospitals instead.

But we have the Great Physician named Jesus Christ who also has the answer in His Word.

Get out of the house of the Law. You don’t belong there. (Romans 7:1-4) You are married to the One who rose from the dead… act like it! Stop attempting to obey a Law that was never meant for you to obey.(Psalm 147:19-20 )

As long as you remain unfaithful to God, you will remain in His sore displeasure.

It’s either the Law, or it’s Grace. You must choose which you want to live under. But, you cannot have the best of both worlds. In the Law, there is no “best”. The Law brings death because man is unable to keep it in its entirety. Grace brings life and liberty to those to whom God has bestowed it upon.

In Malachi, the entire nation of Israel was under the curse because of the actions of the Priests. Deuteronomy 28 reveals that family and nation alike will be affected by disobedience to the Law.

The Law was never meant for us. Who has bewitched you into placing yourself in its jurisdiction. Make your way to the nearest exit as quickly as possible.

Walk in Grace.

MarkMiwerds:
It is ironic how T.B. Joshua stated that God had the final say, yet T.B. does not allow God to say it.

T.B. instead insists that it is right to take tithes. God's Word says otherwise. God's Word says His holy tithes were to be observed in Israel, and that commandment to tithe He gave to no other nation.

T.B. Joshua is placing his opinion above God's Word. Very dangerous.

MarkMiwerds:
I wrote this article yesterday afternoon...

What Is Your Problem?
by Ronald W Robey

Do you tithe 10% of your income to your local Church? Have you “tithed” faithfully for several years and not seen the results that you expected? The Preacher promised you God would “rebuke the devourer” if you would just obey the command to tithe, and yet, you still experience many health problems? Your garden doesn't seem to flourish as well as it should?

Let me ask….

Would you consider not tithing 10% of your income to your Church? Believe it or not, those health problems may be directly connected to your tithing. Your vegetation not flourishing may be directly related to your tithing. Notice:

Deuteronomy 28:35 The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.

The above verse, and pretty much the whole chapter beginning at verse 14, is God’s pronouncement of the curses that He gave to the children of Israel for disobedience to His Law. Notice the above verse says the LORD would place a botch (skin cancer) in the knees and legs, even on the whole body because of disobedience to the Law that He handed down to Moses for the children of Israel. And not just botches, but madness, (insanity) blindness, and astonishment of the heart. (confusion)

You may say, “Yes, but I am not under the Law. I am under Grace. Those illnesses and curses cannot apply to me.”

Oh really? Have you considered the following verse?

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Stop and think for a moment. Is not the command to tithe a command in the Mosaic Law? Are you not attempting to keep that one command written in the Law?

But though you attempt to obey God's command to tithe, the fact is, you fail miserably... even when you give 10% of your money faithfully to your local pastor.

Notice the command concerning God's holy tithes. Read it carefully and prayerfully...

Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD’S: it is holy unto the LORD.
Leviticus 27:31 And if a man will at all redeem ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part thereof.
Leviticus 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
Leviticus 27:33 He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.

The answer is obvious. It is indeed in the Mosaic Law. There is no command for tithes prior to the Mosaic Law being handed down to Moses. Nor is there a command to tithe after the destruction of the Jewish Temple in AD 70.

And the Word of God says if you wish to be under the Law, you must keep the whole Law. (see Gal. 3:10 above) Now realize this...

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


When you heard your pastor preach that Malachi 3:8-10 is God command for you to tithe, and you yielded to that message, you placed yourself in the jurisdiction of the Mosaic Law, its blessings, and it’s curses included.

Package deal.

Now, you might think. “But I am tithing, so I am not breaking the Law. Therefore, the curses associated with breaking the Law cannot be applied to my situation.” Again, you would be wrong… for the following two reasons.

1. Galatians 3:10 above says if you place yourself under the Law, you are a debtor to do the whole Law…. not just tithing. You must obey all the commandments contained in the ordinances of the Mosaic Law if you submit to any one of those commandments.

2. James 2:10 states that if we offend in one point of the Law, we are guilty of all the Law. Again, it is a package deal. Even if you were not required to keep the other commandments contained in the ordinances of the Mosaic Law, and the only command you were required to keep was the tithe command, you have still failed miserably.

God said His holy tithes were to be agricultural, not money. (see Leviticus 27:30-33 above) Because you choose to place yourself under the jurisdiction of the Mosaic Law, you break the Law when you attempt to tithe money instead of agricultural produce and livestock as the Law commands.

Further, God said His tithe was to go to the Levites, widows, orphans and strangers dwelling in Canaan, (see Numbers 18:21-28; Deuteronomy 14:28-29) not to pastors of Church's on Gentile soil.

As you can see, it is possible that your skin cancer, your bad knees, your many health problems, may well be a result of your tithing. You have placed yourself under the Law and may be reaping the consequences of disobedience to that Law.

Might be a good time to read Deuteronomy 28 in its entirety to see if any of the other curses might apply to your current situation.

Uh-huh.

Oh, doctors may be able to treat the skin cancer. They may be able to do knee replacement as well. They may even be able to treat many other illnesses you have contracted. But at what cost? Money that your household could have used, money that your neighbor could have used, gone to doctors and hospitals instead.

But we have the Great Physician named Jesus Christ who also has the answer in His Word.

Get out of the house of the Law. You don’t belong there. (Romans 7:1-4) You are married to the One who rose from the dead… act like it! Stop attempting to obey a Law that was never meant for you to obey.(Psalm 147:19-20 )

As long as you remain unfaithful to God, you will remain in His sore displeasure.

It’s either the Law, or it’s Grace. You must choose which you want to live under. But, you cannot have the best of both worlds. In the Law, there is no “best”. The Law brings death because man is unable to keep it in its entirety. Grace brings life and liberty to those to whom God has bestowed it upon.

In Malachi, the entire nation of Israel was under the curse because of the actions of the Priests. Deuteronomy 28 reveals that family and nation alike will be affected by disobedience to the Law.

The Law was never meant for us. Who has bewitched you into placing yourself in its jurisdiction. Make your way to the nearest exit as quickly as possible.

Walk in Grace.

Weah96:
TB Joshua runs a faith healing business empire. Faith healers are no different from snake charmers.

It's all a bunch of lies.

Weah96:
He's polishing a turd and trying to pass it off as a piece of diamond. What are you saying, Sir?

I've also seen some radical snake charmers that work with real, venomous snakes. There is deception in art, believe me. TB Joshua is practicing magic, the cheap one.