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AlfaSeltzer:
So this man wants me to vote against Jonathan whose family fought side by side with mine during the war and instead vote for the invader that participated in the massacre of Igbo women and children?

This writer should have his brain examined and his DNA as well.

Nice submission
Nice name
Nice reasoning

Ndigbo don't know what they are doing to themselves because of politics, time will tell

kayjasper:
Enlighten us please.

Stop attacking Berem or any other.


This is exactly what the report is about.

Yes..About people like You!!!

Wake up dude...show us you are educated!!

my sister,you have not seen anything yet. I have been attacked for the past two years on this forum simply because I don't support Jonathan. I hope you will not be attacked too and labeled an EFULEFU.

Like I said,if you wanna see the level Igbo youths have been brainwashed,visit Ndi Igbo facebook page. You will weep!

kayjasper:
Barcanista.....

Yes Baby

AlfaSeltzer:
So this man wants me to vote against Jonathan whose family fought side by side with mine during the war and instead vote for the invader that participated in the massacre of Igbo women and children?

This writer should have his brain examined and his DNA as well.

Okay Alfa, your choice is based on the past events. Good enough.
At least you have a reason for your choice unlike some others.

But while u are holding on to the past, Will that not hamper your view of the future?

kayjasper:
I am getting increasingly worried at the ability of a number of supposedly educated people to comprehend, let alone interpret, basic ideas communicated even in the most elementary of ways. The immediate context of this worry is the combative reactions of a couple of Internet warriors to a recent posting of mine entitled “Jonathan’s Igbo Internet Thugs Are A Disgrace To Humanity”.

Femi Fani-Kayode
The commentators claim that I took a swipe at “all Igbo people” for supporting Goodluck Jonathan, Nigeria’s outgoing president. What could make any literate person arrive at this awful conclusion? The people I criticized are not in doubt because the article’s caption says it all: Igbo Internet thugs. The body of the article details those who constitute Internet thugs, namely, Igbo elements who collect hefty bribes from a self-professed Igbo hater, Femi Fani-Kayode, Jonathan’s director of media and publicity in the electioneering campaign; those who circulate the picture of a bridge under construction somewhere but claim it is the 2nd Niger Bridge with a view to deceiving the Igbo into believing that work has progressed impressively on the 2nd Niger Bridge; those who forge medical reports of a non-existent hospital claiming that Muhammadu Buhari has prostrate cancer; those who write and distribute the false and malicious report that Buhari collapsed at a campaign rally in Calabar and was rushed to hospital even when the same peddlers of this information were simultaneously  commenting on his personal activity in the ongoing electioneering campaign; etc.

Perhaps unknown to my so-called critics who are roundly lazy, they are suggesting that all Igbo people are Internet thugs working for Jonathan and, by extension,  involved in forgeries and disinformation and other forms of profoundly inelegant conduct. This is how low some chaps have got.

I know of decent Igbo people who support Jonathan for various reasons, including party loyalty and solidarity. By no means can any sensible person regard them as Internet thugs. They do not forge medical reports , nor do they circulate false pictures of development projects in their homeland with the intention of swindling their own people. Such decent people are at liberty to support any person who catches their fancy. And they are at liberty to express their choice in public, just the way I am free to make my views on the outgoing administration known to the public. . There is no way all Igbo people can be rooting for a particular candidate or political party. It is not possible. Therefore, I find it strange that some Internet warriors could have the temerity to hawk such ignorant opinion that I am opposed to the exercise of the freedom of speech and freedom of association by Igbo elements who are favourably disposed towards Jonathan.

The Internet warriors have attempted to rationalize their working in cahoots with Fani-Kayode as an example of the fact that there are no permanent enemies in politics but permanent interests. This sophistry is from elements who regularly shout from the rooftops that the Igbo are the Jews of Africa. When the Jews discovered that Kurt Waldheim, a former UN secretary general, was involved as a teenager in the Nazi movement in his native Austria, they came after him. Even as Austria’s elected president, Waldheim became practically a prisoner, stuck at home. Despite that he was opposed to the Nazis, Joseph Ratzinger as Pope Benedict never had easy relations with the Jews. His offence? He served briefly in the Nazi military, though by conscription and never fired a shot. Frankly, if Jonathan had much respect for the Igbo he would not have made Fani-Kayode, an admirer of Hitler’s Mien Kempf,  the propaganda head of his election campaign.

It is truly amazing how some Igbo elements have become fanatical over Jonathan whose development record in Igboland is embarrassingly poor. On August 30, 2012, Jonathan announced at a town hall meeting in Onitsha, Anambra State, that he would go into exile if the 2nd Niger Bridge is not completed in 2015! As you are reading this article, the bridge remains mythical. Frankly, any person who promotes the likes of Arthur Eze and Abia State governor Theodore Orji as role models cannot but be an arch enemy of Ndigbo. Eze assumed the chairmanship of Premier Breweries, the third largest brewery in the country, and destroyed it completely. He assumed the chairmanship of Orient Bank and naturally ruined it, forcing Paul Ogwuma, then the Central Bank governor, to issue a directive banning him from ever being on the board of any bank. Eze was awarded the $110m African Development Bank contracts for rural electrification and rural water supply in old Anambra State and the building of an industrial development centre in Awka, but did virtually nothing. Following Abacha’s death he went into exile in the UK.

Jonathan recently rewarded him with a national honour! Jonathan also conferred a high national honour of the outgoing governor of Abia State, a man who made Aba, once the pride of the whole nation for its technological and manufacturing ingenuity, look like a city ruined by barbarians. This is the governor who about three years ago sacked all people of Igbo extraction who are not indigenes of Abia State from the state’s public service, yet there are thousands of Igbo public servants in places like Lagos State. It says a lot about the quality of the current Igbo political leadership that a character like Orji is now the chairman of the Conference of South East Governors, a position which should be occupied by a person who symbolises Igbo unity and strength.


Internet warriors who do scandalous things in the name of defending Jonathan because” he is Igbo” do not know the grave violence they are doing to the Igbo destiny. In the next few years when the campaign for “Igbo presidency” resumes, the rest of the country will certainly tell you that you have had your day  with Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan, whom you have declared to the whole world as “our  own beloved son”! As the great Chinua Achebe has powerfully reminded us, very few things unite Nigerians, including the Ijaw, as much as the anti-Igbo sentiment. A number of our elements are not strategic in their thinking and utterances, so they end up shooting themselves in the foot. Besides, Jonathan’s performance is so mediocre  that it should never be considered a sign of how the “Igbo presidency” will be.

A Nigerian president of Igbo extraction will give Nigerians a powerful sense of dynamism and direction, as the Great Zik of Africa did from the 1940s to 1960s, as he led Nigeria in the struggle for independence and national unity; and in the process established Nigeria’s first indigenous university and first indigenous bank, among other legacy achievements. We campaigned vigorously for Alex Ekwueme to become the presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party after he provided scintillating leadership at the Constitutional Conference in 19944/5 and in the bold struggle against Sani Abacha’s malevolence in the late 1990s as well as in the formation of the PDP in 1998 and its subsequent emergence as a national mass movement. What is more, Ekwueme’s personal accomplishments are stellar.

It will never cease to confound many that a number of Igbo elements have yet to reconcile themselves to reality. Jonathan’s Igbo Internet warriors pour invective on every person who does not share their emotions. You can hardly see people from Jonathan’s Bayelsa State or the Niger Delta Delta as emotional as these Igbo folks. For instance, in an open letter to his Urhobo people and the rest of the Niger Delta under the title “Shine Your Eyes Bros, Buhari is Coming” on December 21, 2014, Abraham Ogbodo, editor  of The Sunday Guardian, stated: “It is time for serious strategy and less of buffoonery. .. I can’t see any (joker) against the planned onslaught of the APC. …The days of the invincibility of the PDP are almost gone”.

Jonathan has reached the dead end. It is now time for serious strategizing among the Igbo political elite.

I think there is need for more thread to be opened like 'A word of advice to all yoruba internet warriors' 'A word of advice to all hausa internet warriors' and 'A word of advice to alien internet warriors. I think that will make it non sentimental. I will be waiting.

kayjasper:
Okay Sir.

But i think she meant "most youths" not all.

Generalisation of a group of people is one of the worst case of stereotyping in recent times.

It should be discouraged.

Are you her PR?
Let her retract her statement

She even said that she felt ashamed posting there

It means that its an infra dignitatem to post on that site because of different views of majority doesn't tally with hers

And you still call it oversight

We know her so don't hold her brief for her

How can she generalize hastily on youths

berem:
my sister,you have not seen anything yet. I have been attacked for the past two years on this forum simply because I don't support Jonathan. I hope you will not be attacked too and labeled an EFULEFU.

Like I said,if you wanna see the level Igbo youths have been brainwashed,visit Ndi Igbo facebook page. You will weep!

Well, words are just words... When they call you EFULEFU, it doesn't take a strand of hair from who we are.

Its a free world....and there is freedom of speech.

I sweat less on such.

Another igbo adviser!

What da fvck is this? And most of them are from the hypocritical tribe that are trying hard to make their son vp with igbo votes only to come tomorrow and tell us How sophisticated they are.

Mtcheew! Shove ur advise down there.

AlfaSeltzer:
So this man wants me to vote against Jonathan whose family fought side by side with mine during the war and instead vote for the invader that participated in the massacre of Igbo women and children?

This writer should have his brain examined and his DNA as well.

hahaha Bros, who fought side by side with you(igbo) during the war? Abeg e be like say na another version of the war story dem tell you. Jonathan's family never fought side-by-side with yours, instead we fought against the Biafrans to protect out territory. Haba nwanne

tonychristopher:
Are you her PR?
Let her retract her statement

She even said that she felt ashamed posting there

It means that its an infra dignitatem to post on that site because of different views of majority doesn't tally with hers

And you still call it oversight

We know her so don't hold her brief for her

How can she generalize hastily on youths

Hmm

I am not her PR, and Ibbelieve she is able to defend her points well enough herself.

Have you been to the same page?
Maybe you will understand what she is implying better.

The most disgusting thing is every rat monkey and lizard has the temerity to advise Igbo just because Igbo has said it point and clear that buhari isn't the Messiah


How you interpreted the message is inconsequential and immaterial .

It might offend some peoples sensibility
It might also make some people glad

That doesn't mean that everybody is an e thug
What about the APC dudes a that are mostly Yoruba that constitute nuisance in virtual worlds are they nuisance ..no

I am not talking about north because majority of em lack the capacity to use internet so I reserve my comment

All I say is doctor heal thyself first

tonychristopher:
Are you her PR?
Let her retract her statement

She even said that she felt ashamed posting there

It means that its an infra dignitatem to post on that site because of different views of majority doesn't tally with hers

And you still call it oversight

We know her so don't hold her brief for her

How can she generalize hastily on youths

Hmm

I am not her PR, and I believe she is able to defend her points well enough herself.

Have you been to the same page?
Maybe you will understand what she is implying better.

Arysexy:
Another igbo adviser!

What da fvck is this? And most of them are from the hypocritical tribe that are trying hard to make their son vp with igbo votes only to come tomorrow and tell us How sophisticated they are.

Mtcheew! Shove ur advise down there.

the writer of that article adinuba is from ihiala

smartigo:
@ Op, you are yet to experience what the article is written about. Wait, they are coming for u.
You will soon join berem n co as outcast.

Btw, thought provoking article. I believe they know but is like a case of just destroying Northern oligarchy and the Western hegemony. We have some Yorubas supporting GEJ but not as passionately as the Igbo.

The article is about supporting your choice without shooting yourself in the leg which requires political sagacity of your elites; I don't see anything bad in that. Anyway, I support GMB. Peace.

Exactly what the article us about.

If they like let them call me Efulefu or whatever, truth must be told, reality must be faced.

We will get there one day!

My submission in this whole matter is that the e-Ndigbos and Ohanaeze are giving the larger Igbo Society a very bad name. Thank God for men like Owelle Rochas Okorocha, the political leader of the Igbo nation and Fr Mbaka, the religious leader of the Igbo nation. Nigeria shall be great again.

God Bless Ndigbo
God Bless the GREAT Ijaw Nation
God Bless All Nigerians
Sai Buhari

kayjasper:
Hmm

I am not her PR, and Ibbelieve she is able to defend her points well enough herself.

Have you been to the same page?
Maybe you will understand what she is implying better.

Yeah

I visit the page often. In Facebook and most times its cultural and political . The Igbo page can be fun also . They post pictures of Igbo development for us outside Igbo land and this is political period its is normal to have views that are different and the way people portray their views differs also .but he page is fun .


As of your friend ...don't hold her brief.

She is known here in Nairaland


Have a blessed day

This Adenuba didn't make any sense!

I've been on here and I've seen how people spread disgusting stuff about both candidates. I've never been a supported of GEJ from the onset, didn't vote for him in 2011 and won't vote for him come Feb 14. But the way we play politics in Nigeria is disgusting!

Now, a reasonable Igbo Prof. in the name of Charles Soludo came out with a very constructive criticism on both candidates showing their flaws and cluelessness (both GEJ and GMB) and everything he said about them was simply nothing but the truth. How many people like Adenuba came out to commend him? He'd rather take a swipe at the Igbo nation because of his tribal sentiments which he didn't fail to show out openly to the public.

Yoruba people were/are making their own blunders on internet but you wouldn't call them e-thugs. This country is just gone. With how these political figures divide their gullible slaves along tribal lines, I don't see Nigeria ever getting better.

You don't come on here and drag a tribe to the mud just because you feel you have the power to. Its disheartening that people with certificates don't even act like they got one.

This man would have made sense if he came out openly to criticize GEJ supporters constructively rather than spilling out the filts deposited in his brain in order to drag the Igbo nation to the mud.

Till we stop seeing ourselves/tribes above every other person/tribe, till we stop being stupidly biased, till we stop being slaves of politicians, till we stop putting religion in the matters of polity, Nigeria will never get better.

barcanista:
My submission in this whole matter is that the e-Ndigbos and Ohanaeze are giving the larger Igbo Society a very bad name. Thank God for men like Owelle Rochas Okorocha, the political leader of the Igbo nation and Fr Mbaka, the religious leader of the Igbo nation. Nigeria shall be great again.

God Bless Ndigbos

Where did you crown owelle rochas political leader. Who was there during the coronation of that your rochas as a political leader . I laugh

Ur talking to Owerri boy so find another gist

As of fr mbaka I reserve my comment

He fought with firmer Enugu government mbadinuju he was messed now he is talking like a canary

tonychristopher:
The most disgusting thing is every rat monkey and lizard has the temerity to advise Igbo just because Igbo has said it point and clear that buhari isn't the Messiah


How you interpreted the message is inconsequential and immaterial .

It might offend some peoples sensibility
It might also make some people glad

That doesn't mean that everybody is an e thug
What about the APC dudes a that are mostly Yoruba that constitute nuisance in virtual worlds are they nuisance ..no

I am not talking about north because majority of em lack the capacity to use internet so I reserve my comment

All I say is doctor heal thyself first

The issue is not who you support OR who you dont , the issue is WHY DO YOU SUPPORT WHO YOU SUPPORT?

Let's try to analyse issues as educated folks and not on sentiments.

If Yoruba's maintain that Jonathan is corrupt , has done nothing in their land, doesn't have a plan to tackle poverty and so on, them compare to the Igbo youth who believes Buhari is not "Igbo", Buhari is a boko sponsor, Jonathan is " our son".

Why can't the issue be based on more Germain issues rather than based on mediocrity and lack lustre religious and ethnic bias?

francizy:
This Adenuba didn't make any sense!

I've been on here and I've seen how people spread disgusting stuff about both candidates. I've never been a supported of GEJ from the onset, didn't vote for him in 2011 and won't vote for him come Feb 14. But the way we play politics in Nigeria is disgusting!

Now, a reasonable Igbo Prof. in the name of Charles Soludo came out with a very constructive criticism on both candidates showing their flaws and cluelessness (both GEJ and GMB) and everything he said about them was simply nothing but the truth. How many people like Adenuba came out to commend him? He'd rather take a swipe at the Igbo nation because of his tribal sentiments which he didn't fail to show out openly to the public.

Yoruba people were/are making their own blunders on internet but you wouldn't call them e-thugs. This country is just gone. With how these political figures divide their gullible slaves along tribal lines, I don't see Nigeria ever getting better.

You don't come on here and drag a tribe to the mud just because you feel you have the power to. Its disheartening that people with certificates don't even act like they got one.

This man would have made sense if he came out openly to criticize GEJ supporters constructively rather than spilling out the filts deposited in his brain in order to drag the Igbo nation to the mud.

Till we stop seeing ourselves/tribes above every other person/tribe, till we stop being stupidly biased, till we stop being slaves of politicians, till we stop putting religion in the matters of polity, Nigeria will never get better.

May you live long

A bottle of beer on me

Don't mind them .everything Igbo

Look at Yoruba mab advising Igbo ..he should advise his real thugs and some people here are in the same position with him

I feel ashamed . So we don't have people that are e thugs in Yoruba or ijaw

berem:
yes I have asked my father several times. My parents were business people people in the 80's and they are still strong supporters of Buhari.

Did you also ask your father the same question?

YOU HAD BETTER STOP DECIVING YOURSELF AND TAKING US FOR FOOLS, THAT ERA WAS EVIL, PEOPLE REJOICED WHEN BUHARI WAS OVERTHRONED MORE THAN WHEN ABACHA DIED, ITS NOT YOUR FAULT THOUGH YOU ARE SUFFERING FROM EXCESSIVE SUBLIMINAL BRAINWASH MESSAGES FROM APC'S PROPAGANDA MACHINE ,
#SAINT BUHARI

AlfaSeltzer:
So this man wants me to vote against Jonathan whose family fought side by side with mine during the war and instead vote for the invader that participated in the massacre of Igbo women and children?

This writer should have his brain examined and his DNA as well.

The Ijaws fought along side My Igbo people? Bros I dey laff.
pls wake up and ask your Dad or Uncles Biko

AlfaSeltzer:
So this man wants me to vote against Jonathan whose family fought side by side with mine during the war and instead vote for the invader that participated in the massacre of Igbo women and children?

This writer should have his brain examined and his DNA as well.

Alfa, I'm serious here. Aren't you supposed to be dead?
Was that thread a scam?
Ayamlaykorn

tonychristopher:
Where did you crown owelle rochas political leader. Who was there during the coronation of that your rochas as a political leader . I laugh

Ur talking to Owerri boy so find another gist

As of fr mbaka I reserve my comment

He fought with firmer Enugu government mbadinuju he was messed now he is talking like a canary

Oga Okorocha is the most influential Igbo politician. You sef knw that one...

Igbo's are known for their bravery.They have declared their unflinching support for President Jonathan.Why do you call them names and why are you aggrieved?Please,let them be!

LordMecuzy:
The Ijaws fought along side My Igbo people? Bros I dey laff.
pls wake up and ask your Dad or Uncles Biko

AlfaSeltzer must have been misinformed .....he will correct himself soon.
I know him for that..; D

If Igbos are going to vote for Jonathan because he bears Ebele Azikiwe,what stops Igbos from voting for Chekwas Okorie who is a real Igbo man?

barcanista:
My submission in this whole matter is that the e-Ndigbos and Ohanaeze are giving the larger Igbo Society a very bad name. Thank God for men like Owelle Rochas Okorocha, the political leader of the Igbo nation and Fr Mbaka, the religious leader of the Igbo nation. Nigeria shall be great again.

God Bless Ndigbo
God Bless the GREAT Ijaw Nation
God Bless All Nigerians
Sai Buhari

IF U SAY ROCHAS IS A POLITICAL LEADER , THEN YOU SHOULD BE BANNED FROM TALKING ABOUT POLITICS

kayjasper:
Thwbiaaue is not who you support OR who you dont , the issue is WHY DO YOU SUPPORT WHO YOU SUPPORT?

Let's try to analyse issues as educated folks and not on sentiments.

If yoribas maintain that Jonathan is corrupt , has done nothing in their land, doesn't have a plan to tackle poverty and so on, them compare to the Igbo youth who believes Buhari is not "Igbo", Buhari is a boko sponsor, Jonathan is " our son".

Why can't the issue be based on more Germain issues rather than based on mediocrity and lack lustre religious and ethnic bias?

Are you asking mW why I support PDP or reason why people support PDP. Your question is ambiguous please try and make a clear submission next time

People support political parties for divergent reasons

I was with an urhobo friend we were talking and he told me that buhari sacked his father who was a prof during the time of ptf and put Hausa that didn't get any form of higher education . That is his reason

Went for a meeting in Lekki met a friend also a Yoruba we were just having a chat he told me that he is ashamed of his people that why should they support buhari . The man that imprisoned many of his people for flimsy reasons and stop metro link . That is his own view

Then the IMO dudes will give mbakwe angle

I am not supporting Jonathan because he is Igbo...hell no he isn't igbo and I know reasons why I support him

Maybe first international airport in east
Maybe first coas

Maybe due to proximity .so I won't indoctrinate anybody to support anybody
.so look well and search

I have seen buhari analysed him and personally .he is not the messiah

This certificate issue has really put a dent

But mind you that is me

I have work and meeting to attend we talk later