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Pr0ton:
Using error for defence

Why do other versions have it as staff That's a mispelling (which is still pointing at staff)...

KJV has no errors, it was written by the best of writers at that time and dutifully cross checked by King James himself, word for word. Staves is the right word unless you can give me proof through the original Hebrew manuscript. Gideons Bible also has it as staffs. We also must not forget the fact that what the statement is trying to pass across is that that they should not go with multiple things, money etc. It would be very incorrect to say that Jesus allowed them to take with them the rest but didn't allow them to take along their staff, which is a very irrelevant.

WOULD HAVE SENT THIS EARLIER BUT THIS GLO IS MISERABLE.

Misogynist2014:
Thank you, I actually appreciate your question on the Pyramids of Egypt. Remember this verse? There were giants in the earth in those days; and also
after that, when the sons of God came in unto the
daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the
same became mighty men which were of old, men of
renown.

God preserved the Mammoths by freezing it in the polar region intact and without the effect of the flood, it won't be out of the kindness of God in keeping these ancient monuments, which serves as wonder to man today. This topic hasn't been solved because the Egyptians of today can't even try building it.

God preserved it right? Did I not tell you there is no God! Why must you insert God into conversations when you have no proof there is one. It will be difficult to have a debate with you when you cannot proof what you are saying.

The Egyptians(who were by a long miles superior to anyone back then) made no reference to a God in heaven. I would rather consider them more credible to talk about a God(if there were any).

If you make positive research,you will discover that The Sumerians actually wrote the Bible. They wrote about humanoid beings visiting our Planet and people called them Gods because they had superior abilities and had more knowledge about the vast Universe. They had mastered the act of Time Travel and Technology.

The concept of calling Yahweh God came from oppression and wrong information to make people feel inferior.

Looking at the Bible,Yahweh appeared to be a horrible deity. A deity who was flesh and blood itself.It actually fed on newly born babies and commanded his people to do the same " (Deuteronomy 28:53-57 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, [1] the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57 And toward her young one [2] that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.)"

I don't want to go further with the dead cannibal and flesh eating Reptilian you call God.

Misogynist2014:
KJV has no errors, it was written by the best of writers at that time and dutifully cross checked by King James himself, word for word. Staves is the right word unless you can give me proof through the original Hebrew manuscript.

Wow.. You are just showing more of your ignorance of your Bible. Kjv has no errors? How laughable! Why then do we have Nkjv? The same Kjv authors corrected their error in using staves for staffs in their Nkjv. See? We have staffs not staves in their Nkjv!

Your utter ignorance again surface by saying Matt was written in Hebrews! Hun!

We also must not forget the fact that what the statement is trying to pass across is that that they should not go with multiple things, money etc. It would be very incorrect to say that Jesus allowed them to take with them the rest but didn't allow them to take along their staff, which is a very irrelevant.

You just added to your problem here, again.

Pr0ton:
Wow.. You are just showing more of your ignorance of your Bible. Kjv has no errors? How laughable! Why then do we have Nkjv? The same Kjv authors corrected their error in using staves for staffs in their Nkjv. See? We have staffs not staves in their Nkjv!

Your utter ignorance again surface by saying Matt was written in Hebrews! Hun!



You just added to your problem here, again.

king James version was translated 400years ago during the medieval England period. Use of this translation is problematic these days, since it uses an archaic version of modern English, which doesn't necessarily mean the same things today as when it was translated over 400 years ago.In addition, the KJV
was produced using a limited number of medieval manuscripts that did not
represent the earliest Alexandrian set of
manuscripts.

malvisguy212:
king James version was translated 400years ago during the medieval England period. Use of this translation is problematic these days, since it uses an archaic version of modern English, which doesn't necessarily mean the same things today as when it was translated over 400 years ago.In addition, the KJV
was produced using a limited number of medieval manuscripts that did not
represent the earliest Alexandrian set of
manuscripts.

Thanks for your addition. Make sure your fellow Christian understands this better. Sooner does he know that the KJV has errors that are effectively misleading today.

Pr0ton:
Thanks for your addition. Make sure your fellow Christian understands this better. Sooner does he know that the KJV has errors that are effectively misleading today.

the time the king James version was written, the alexandrian set of manuscript was unknown.

ifeness:
God preserved it right? Did I not tell you there is no God! Why must you insert God into conversations when you have no proof there is one. It will be difficult to have a debate with you when you cannot proof what you are saying.

The Egyptians(who were by a long miles superior to anyone back then) made no reference to a God in heaven. I would rather consider them more credible to talk about a God(if there were any).

If you make positive research,you will discover that The Sumerians actually wrote the Bible. They wrote about humanoid beings visiting our Planet and people called them Gods because they had superior abilities and had more knowledge about the vast Universe. They had mastered the act of Time Travel and Technology.

The concept of calling Yahweh God came from oppression and wrong information to make people feel inferior.

Looking at the Bible,Yahweh appeared to be a horrible deity. A deity who was flesh and blood itself.It actually fed on newly born babies and commanded his people to do the same " (Deuteronomy 28:53-57)

I actually acknowledge your knowledge but we can agree to disagree. YAHWEH did not instruct them to eat one another, just like Ojukwu did not tell Biafrans to eat themselves as food, HE only told them the war will be terrible. This is an undisputable fact. What is bad about God appearing in flesh and blood? It only shows a God who seeks to establish relationship with man.

Egyptians were never lead into captivity, the idea that the tower was built by Egyptians is not plausible. Yes, Egypt had a lot of gods, but an event, an undeniable event shook Egypt that before then, there was none like it and after then has there ever been none like it, the plagues of Moses, today they worship Allah, which they think is YAHWEH.

You said humanoids roamed the earth, without having proof, you believe through faith. Even a man as wise as Solomon was taken in, he wanted to speak to God through idols, but God doesn't want that, he wants us to connect through faith. If you believe that the Egyptians built the pyramids, why can't they do the same today?

Misogynist2014:
KJV has no errors, it was written by the best of writers at that time and dutifully cross checked by King James himself, word for word. Staves is the right word unless you can give me proof through the original Hebrew manuscript. Gideons Bible also has it as staffs. We also must not forget the fact that what the statement is trying to pass across is that that they should not go with multiple things, money etc. It would be very incorrect to say that Jesus allowed them to take with them the rest but didn't allow them to take along their staff, which is a very irrelevant.

WOULD HAVE SENT THIS EARLIER BUT THIS GLO IS MISERABLE.

Actually the KJV bible does not agree with greek manuscripts(i would soon give a link for you to download the greek texts)....
What linguists and researchers did was to gather people familiar with greek and try to piece together what the words meant...
If you studied linguistics,you'd see that lost languages almost never get translated in the context it was produced...
For example,gather a bunch of people who understand english fairly and ask them what "fruit flies like a banana" mean.
To many it would be a metaphor,to others it would be literal...that was the same case for the bible....poorly understood re-translated texts by different authors...

codex sinaticus
http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/manuscript.aspx?book=38&chapter=6&lid=en&side=r&verse=9&zoomSlider=0#38-5-3-18

codex alexandrinus
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=royal_ms_1_d_viii_fs001r

Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8470433r

Aleppo codex
http://www.aleppocodex.org/newsite/index.html

davien:
Actually the KJV bible does not agree with greek manuscripts(i would soon give a link for you to download the greek texts)....
What linguists and researchers did was to gather people familiar with greek and try to piece together what the words meant...
If you studied linguistics,you'd see that lost languages almost never get translated in the context it was produced...
For example,gather a bunch of people who understand english fairly and ask them what "fruit flies like a banana" mean.
To many it would be a metaphor,to others it would be literal...that was the same case for the bible....poorly understood re-translated texts by different authors...

What KJV did was to translate the Bible. Let me use this as an example, Good news Bible, if you read it does not translate the verses that I used to prove mammoth is less than 5000 years old, it compressed the two questions in verse 22 and 23 into one, without using 'or' to demonstrate that it compressed two questions into one, thereby giving it a meaning that God has set aside snow for the time of battle and war, which contradicts the covenant God made with Noah. Another is Behemoth and Leviathan, which the Revised Standard Version drew the former as a hippopotamus to, even when there were still conflicts that hippopotamus tail doesn't move like cedar tree, it named the other, leviathan crocodile, which is not plausible. God clearly cursed anyone who adds or removes from the Bible. The fact is that King James can be interpreted to the verses of other Bible if interpretation is correct, e.g Gen 3:16. RSV and KJV. Another is Isaiah 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to
their windows?, which without controversy is trying to tell us that Jews would be flown back in aeroplanes and its trying to tell us its movement in air (as a cloud) and its landing (like dove to their window), which is a perfect description of aeroplane. Even the tone with which it was written shows that its whimsical. But only God knows where Good news Bible got ships from, they inserted it into it, and still went further by illustrating it with diagram. Some pastors in my church are so pissed off with other Bibles that they instruct those with it not to bother reading. If YAHWEH, is the true ONE, then the KJV shouldn't contain 'errors.'

Misogynist2014:
I actually acknowledge your knowledge but we can agree to disagree. YAHWEH did not instruct them to eat one another, just like Ojukwu did not tell Biafrans to eat themselves as food, HE only told them the war will be terrible. This is an undisputable fact. What is bad about God appearing in flesh and blood? It only shows a God who seeks to establish relationship with man.

Egyptians were never lead into captivity, the idea that the tower was built by Egyptians is not plausible. Yes, Egypt had a lot of gods, but an event, an undeniable event shook Egypt that before then, there was none like it and after then has there ever been none like it, the plagues of Moses, today they worship Allah, which they think is YAHWEH.

You said humanoids roamed the earth, without having proof, you believe through faith. Even a man as wise as Solomon was taken in, he wanted to speak to God through idols, but God doesn't want that, he wants us to connect through faith. If you believe that the Egyptians built the pyramids, why can't they do the same today?

From your first Paragraph,do you agree that Yahweh is not powerful since he couldn't create a peaceful atmosphere for his "chosen people" ? "God" telling his beloved ones that the war will be terrible? really

There is no proof that the ten plagues written in the Bible happened in Egypt. In fact,there was no account of the Israelis ever being enslaved in by the Egyptians or neighboring communities around them. 400 years of slavery would have at least been recorded at least in India.

Allah is another blood sucking monster in whose name many have died. Egyptians of today are not even the real Egyptians. The real Egyptians according to honest archeologist are blacks. The last native ruler of Egypt fled to Sudan ( Africa at 345 BC) (I have evidence to back it if you require it.Evidence I found in a French Museum)

I do not have faith in anything. I do not believe in anything through faith. Mermaids are an example. Humanoids living in the Ocean.And yes I have encountered one in Nigeria. Sumerian tablets spoke of super beings visiting our Planet from eons. Even the Bible is a book full of EXtra dimensional beings still visiting our Planet. Jeremiah encountered a Spacecraft he called the wheel. Elijah was carried into the heavens(not heaven) by a Spacecraft(not chariot of horses)

Should I go on?

Misogynist2014:
What KJV did was to translate the Bible. Let me use this as an example, Good news Bible, if you read it does not translate the verses that I used to prove mammoth is less than 5000 years old, it compressed the two questions in verse 22 and 23 into one, without using 'or' to demonstrate that it compressed two questions into one, thereby giving it a meaning that God has set aside snow for the time of battle and war, which contradicts the covenant God made with Noah. Another is Behemoth and Leviathan, which the Revised Standard Version drew the former as a hippopotamus to, even when there were still conflicts that hippopotamus tail doesn't move like cedar tree, it named the other, leviathan crocodile, which is not plausible. God clearly cursed anyone who adds or removes from the Bible. The fact is that King James can be interpreted to the verses of other Bible if interpretation is correct, e.g Gen 3:16. RSV and KJV. Another is Isaiah 60:8 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to
their windows?, which without controversy is trying to tell us that Jews would be flown back in aeroplanes and its trying to tell us its movement in air (as a cloud) and its landing (like dove to their window), which is a perfect description of aeroplane. Even the tone with which it was written shows that its whimsical. But only God knows where Good news Bible got ships from, they inserted it into it, and still went further by illustrating it with diagram. Some pastors in my churches are so pissed off with other Bibles that they instruct those with it not to bother reading. If YAHWEH, is the true ONE, then the KJV shouldn't contain 'errors.'

The book of job accurately describes a crocodile as the leviathan,a low lying armoured creature with folds of armor on its back side and jagged teeth....
And I understand that in creationism,a desperate attempt is made to reconcile dinosaurs and scripture,but it just doesn't work... .
And still this further proves my point which you ignored,to creationist interpretation those verses represent dinosaurs,to the people who translated it,it was a hippo and a crocodile.
all because they're interpreting a dead language in forms they don't know if it represents what is being said...
So in essence the bible is a vague book....

davien:
The book of job accurately describes a crocodile as the leviathan,a low lying armoured creature with folds of armor on its back side and jagged teeth....
And I understand that in creationism,a desperate attempt is made to reconcile dinosaurs and scripture,but it just doesn't work... .
And still this further proves my point which you ignored,to creationist interpretation those verses represent dinosaurs,to the people who translated it,it was a hippo and a crocodile.
all because they're interpreting a dead language in forms they don't know if it represents what is being said...
So in essence the bible is a vague book....

Does smoke come out of Crocodile's nose and mouth. How many people are afraid of crocodile? SO TERRIBLE AN ANIMAL THAT SORROW IS TURNED TO JOY BEFORE HIM. Is it true that crocodile will not run at the sight of arrows and will laugh when he sees javelin? Is it true that crocodile counts iron as straw and and bronze as rotten wood? Is it true That mighty men tremble at the sight of crocodile? Is it true that traders don't bargain over crocodile or haven't you heard of crocodile soup before? Is it true that crocodile is without fear? I've seen a lot of Crocodiles tremble at the sight of hippopotamus in a river? Have you ever associated crocodile with pride?,Is the heart of crocodile as hard as stone? Is it true that you can't domesticate a crocodile? We all know that apart from its teeth, crocodile has no power to merit the description of Leviathan. Read Job 41 for the description of Leviathan. Leviathan is clearly a beast, a very powerful beast, which spits out fire, its extinct, that is why its name is unknown. Even a mad man will not give this qualifications to crocodile, not to talk of ANCIENT OF DAYS. Its clearly the work of mischief makers, who want to make sure evidence of dinosaurs(dragons) in Bible is suppressed.

www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=899

Misogynist2014:
Does smoke come out of Crocodile's nose and mouth. How many people are afraid of crocodile? SO TERRIBLE AN ANIMAL THAT SORROW IS TURNED TO JOY BEFORE HIM. Is it true that crocodile will not run at the sight of arrows and will laugh when he sees javelin? Is it true that crocodile counts iron as straw and and bronze as rotten wood? Is it true That mighty men tremble at the sight of crocodile? Is it true that traders don't bargain over crocodile or haven't you heard of crocodile soup before? Is it true that crocodile is without fear? I've seen a lot of Crocodiles tremble at the sight of hippopotamus in a river? Have you ever associated crocodile with pride?,Is the heart of crocodile as hard as stone? Is it true that you can't domesticate a crocodile? We all know that apart from its teeth, crocodile has no power to merit the description of Leviathan. Read Job 41 for the description of Leviathan. Leviathan is clearly a beast, a very powerful beast, which spits out fire, its extinct, that is why its name is unknown. Even a mad man will not give this qualifications to crocodile, not to talk of ANCIENT OF DAYS. Its clearly the work of mischief makers, who want to make sure evidence of dinosaurs(dragons) in Bible is suppressed.

www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=899

All you have to go by are creationist apologetics which(as you know) make a statement of faith to never adhere to evidence that contradicts them......if possible I would like to direct you to this pic of a "super crocodile" which is still prevalent in modern times,compare that to the description and please don't tell me you believe in dragons?!
I'd happily believe dragons exist if you provide the evidence instead of apologetics...

davien:
All you have to go by are creationist apologetics which(as you know) make a statement of faith to never adhere to evidence that contradicts them......if possible I would like to direct you to this pic of a "super crocodile" which is still prevalent in modern times,compare that to the description and please don't tell me you believe in dragons?!
I'd happily believe dragons exist if you provide the evidence instead of apologetics...

You are giving me the picture of a crocodile captured alive! This contradicts the description of leviathan. Lest you never knew, dinosaur was added to dictionary in 1891, before them, these beasts were called dragon. Go to biblehub.com if you have no Bible to read the description of leviathan.

[quote author=ifeness post=30465717][/quote]Pls go on.