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ifeness:
The fact that you replied my post proved you exist. Has God ever replied you through a voice,email or text message? If God exists,you won't need to defend him or try to proof it does. I will know.

First, I am not defending Him; I am only attesting to His existence.
Secondly, with respect to 'voice', I take it as audible voice, e-mails or text messages - God is not a physical being, you cannot see Him even though you can hear him. When you talk back at your parents and walk out on them only to feel bad about it afterwards, a voice from within you spoke to you even though it wasn't audible, it was only making you to understand that you were not meant to be that way.

As for e-mails and text messages, they are some of the mediums through which man communicates.
But then, man needs a computer or a phone to send text messages and e-mails. Just as man send messages using the computers he has manufactured, God speaks to men through men and other creations of His hands. Unless in cases of misunderstanding or trying to create amazement, we send text messages and e-mails to people that are not with us at the moment. For instance, I wouldn't send a text message or do an e-mail to my son when he is with me. God is always in contact with His children, when His children are in contact with Him they hear him directly without having to hear from him through other men(computers and cell phones). When we draw away, he sends people to us.

Lastly, 'if he exists, I will know'. That is correct. But then He reveals Himself to whoever He wills at His time.

What is the difference between you and a corpse? Is the difference visible?
If you see anyone, do you know who he is before he/she speaks or acts or you know him/her by what he/she says?
What thinks, speaks and takes decision in a body? Could it be that the visible is only a covering? Could our physical bodies be likened to the packaging of a bread and our 5 senses be the connection between the Man in our bodies and the visible forms?

God is beyond the visible; His existence cant be measured by transient activities like replying text messages, sending e-mails and hearing audible voices. If man is an invisible entity living in a body, it is only normal for the Invisible God to relate directly with the Invisible man and not his perishable body.

James 2:19 AMP

You believe that God is one; you do well. So do the demons believe and shudder [in terror and horror such as make a man's hair stand on end and contract the surface of his skin]!

Etfash:
First, I am not defending Him; I am only attesting to His existence.
Secondly, with respect to 'voice', I take it as audible voice, e-mails or text messages - God is not a physical being, you cannot see Him even though you can hear him. When you talk back at your parents and walk out on them only to feel bad about it afterwards, a voice from within you spoke to you even though it wasn't audible, it was only making you to understand that you were not meant to be that way.

As for e-mails and text messages, they are some of the mediums through which man communicates.
But then, man needs a computer or a phone to send text messages and e-mails. Just as man send messages using the computers he has manufactured, God speaks to men through men and other creations of His hands. Unless in cases of misunderstanding or trying to create amazement, we send text messages and e-mails to people that are not with us at the moment. For instance, I wouldn't send a text message or do an e-mail to my son when he is with me. God is always in contact with His children, when His children are in contact with Him they hear him directly without having to hear from him through other men(computers and cell phones). When we draw away, he sends people to us.

Lastly, 'if he exists, I will know'. That is correct. But then He reveals Himself to whoever He wills at His time.

What is the difference between you and a corpse? Is the difference visible?
If you see anyone, do you know who he is before he/she speaks or acts or you know him/her by what he/she says?
What thinks, speaks and takes decision in a body? Could it be that the visible is only a covering? Could our physical bodies be likened to the packaging of a bread and our 5 senses be the connection between the Man in our bodies and the visible forms?

God is beyond the visible; His existence cant be measured by transient activities like replying text messages, sending e-mails and hearing audible voices. If man is an invisible entity living in a body, it is only normal for the Invisible God to relate directly with the Invisible man and not his perishable body.

Seek knowledge and you will know better. Did I hear you say the Bible "God" is not a physical being? I will use your book to proof you wrong!

Genesis 3:8 said "Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden". If Yahweh was omnipresent, then there would be no place one could go where Yahweh was not, but here we see that Adam and Eve hid themselves from Yahweh, evidently a place where Yahweh was not. We can also see that Yahweh was no omniscient as he had to ask them where they were. Is that not enough evidence that Yahweh is a physical being?

Exodus 24:10 says....."they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness" This verse is pretty self-explanatory, they "saw" the Elohim of Israel. You can see that Yahweh is the "Elohim of Israel" in contrast to the Elohim of the other nations. Apparently Elohim is a race of humanoids from other planet.

Exodus 5:22 says......"And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Lord, wherefore hast thou so evil entreated this people? why is it that thou hast sent me?" If Moses "returns" to Yahweh then he evidently was somewhere where Yahweh was not. If Yahweh is everywhere, you would not be able to be away from his presence and then return to it.

According to how you described God,It is obvious you have no idea and you have been wrongly taught by nursery Pastors who themselves do not have knowledge. The term "GOD" was wrongly used in the Bible.

The most common Hebrew word translated as "God" in the Old Testament is the word אלהים (Elohim). This is the plural form of the word elo'ah. If you do a cursory study on this word, you will find that this word is used 2606 times, but it is not always translated as "God." In fact this very word is translated a variety of different ways.

If you were clever you would have realized that Bible verses like Exodus 20:3 " Thou shalt have no other God except me" is nothing but a power tussle between the group of Elohim. Elohim in Hebrew was plural and because people boycot that the term God was used for all of them.

Anyway,the real God is you. Yahweh and you are equally powerful and no one should worship or serve the other. When you claimed you do hear the voice of God in your heart,that is the real you whispering.

Cheers.

@Ifeness, I see you are puffed up -
You have veered off the subject matter.

Etfash:
@Ifeness, I see you are puffed up -
You have veered off the subject matter.

how?

ifeness:
how?

My posts sought to provide evidences to invalidate your assertion that No evidence of God exists.
You will agree with me that you have gone off.

Etfash:
My posts sought to provide evidences to invalidate your assertion that No evidence of God exists.
You will agree with me that you have gone off.

I gave you a clear evidence that Yahweh isn't what you think. Yahweh is not a spirit. My evidence clearly came from the book you failed to read and understand,which you sleep and wake up it.

You should point at where I got it wrong. Our argument is concerning the existence of a God. I already put that to bed. Proof me wrong and stop saying I went off point.

@Ifeness does it mean you cannot come across without being offensive?

I rest my case.

Etfash:
@Ifeness does it mean you cannot come across without being offensive?

I rest my case.

You can come back at me I don't mind.I don't think I was offensive. But throwing in the towel looks suspicious. It is offensive to tell people they will burn in hell fire if they do not accept Jesus,don't you think?

Proof to me Yahweh is a Spirit and I WILL ACCEPT YOUR JESUS.

bingbagbo:
of course i know that,s a blatant lie, i just want people here to about the funny beliefs of that cult called jw

Is this the funny belief you choose to speak of?

If what you mean is being afraid of God, of cos he is not afraid of Him. If you are afraid of someone you wont challenge him.

Satan knows God is more powerful than he is, but satan is an arogant spirit. He wants to usurp God's position, and gain worship from humans.

He want us to believe he is fighting for our independence against God's rulership. Maybe he thinks there would be a universal revolution against God. He failed!

Al ye atheists sorry to disappoint y'all Christianity is not just a line of thought that prescribes a line of action like other religions.

Christianity is a personal relationship with your maker through his son Jesus as a mediator the Bible as his true words then his revelations through his Spirit.

These are al about christianity. So u must have a personal relationship with God filled with his spirit before u dub urself a christian.

So it wont be easy convincing a real Christian, because he doesnt hope these to be true but these are personal experiences.

Furthermore al ye atheist why do u want to rub us al (even yourselfs) of hope? Where do u want us to put our hope in? In you? Nah I dnt think so. Somebody got to answer al my questions, definitely nt you. That person got to be al powerful al knowing.

Suicide should be the other of the day cos what do you have to say to the disabled or deformed

"hey dawg! you the cos of ya problems cos u were born deformed" rude isn't it

ifeness:
You can come back at me I don't mind.I don't think I was offensive. But throwing in the towel looks suspicious. It is offensive to tell people they will burn in hell fire if they do not accept Jesus,don't you think?

Proof to me Yahweh is a Spirit and I WILL ACCEPT YOUR JESUS.

'No evidence to show that God exists' is different from 'proof to me Yahweh is a Spirit'.

I don't need to tell anyone he/she will go to hell just like I don't need to say a student who refuses to be serious would fail.

I don't need to prove anything to you. All that I have said to you in this forum did not come from any man, so, I have not quoted any pastor. Neither have I mentioned Jesus or the Bible in all that I have said to you so far.

In all, No man can convince anyone who thinks he knows; neither can anyone make up your mind for you.

GOD exist fine fine and HE is just not a spirit, HIS spirt is enclosed in a Body. I am not in any mood to proof. GOD has left the hypocrites, liars and the imitators in their inordinance. They go to and fro without aim and direction thinking they've got it all, yet deep down, there is every sense of inassurance in them. they can't even tell if they are happy or sad.

On the other hand, questioning the existence of GOD is not a bad thing, it is good, and it is left for the person to found it out him/herself. So real atheists will never say there is no GOD, never! It is other people that would see him well and exclaim "you don't believe there is a GOD"! To which he or she won't reply but with a smile that "i'm openned, there is a GOD but....." when they get their answers, they will either be a satanist, a naturanist, or everything or religious.
self acclaimed black atheists are imitators with no ordinance.

Etfash:
'No evidence to show that God exists' is different from 'proof to me Yahweh is a Spirit'.

I don't need to tell anyone he/she will go to hell just like I don't need to say a student who refuses to be serious would fail.

I don't need to prove anything to you. All that I have said to you in this forum did not come from any man, so, I have not quoted any pastor. Neither have I mentioned Jesus or the Bible in all that I have said to you so far.

In all, No man can convince anyone who thinks he knows; neither can anyone make up your mind for you.

bingbagbo:
i couldnt believe my ears.. A jw woman just told me that satan does not fear God. and i find it shocking. What do u think?

They teach lots of wonders in that ministry.

It make sense! once one is pronounced dead, shown his death and there is no way out of it, he might as well say "what the f, i'm gone anyways, but not alone".

mployer:
They teach lots of wonders in that ministry.

Etfash:
'No evidence to show that God exists' is different from 'proof to me Yahweh is a Spirit'.

I don't need to tell anyone he/she will go to hell just like I don't need to say a student who refuses to be serious would fail.

I don't need to prove anything to you. All that I have said to you in this forum did not come from any man, so, I have not quoted any pastor. Neither have I mentioned Jesus or the Bible in all that I have said to you so far.

In all, No man can convince anyone who thinks he knows; neither can anyone make up your mind for you.

What are you saying? I proved to you that the person you call God is nothing but a flesh and blood and certainly is different to what you thought was God. You said Yahweh was God and has no form and I showed you clearly from your book that you were WRONG. There is no God,but there were people like us who just weren't born on this planet that once mingled with us. Yahweh was one of them!

I am right to say there is no God. Men wrote the Bible,so what you think you know came from men.

ifeness:
No evidence of God or Satan.

Shut ur freaking mouth. Damn!

Macelliot:
Shut ur freaking mouth. Damn!

Yea fight for your imaginary friends. Terrorist! Bible slave

@Ifeness. Anyone who have 'seen and partaken of' the supernatural wouldn't argue the existence of the Almighty with you.

You are only young and for now, celebrating the knowledge you think you have. When life throws real questions to you, you will find out that at certain points in human existence, man tends to get to his end and hence seek true knowledge that only the Almighty can give.

Christ' Love to you!

Etfash:
@Ifeness. Anyone who have 'seen and partaken of' the supernatural wouldn't argue the existence of the Almighty with you.

You are only young and for now, celebrating the knowledge you think you have. When life throws real questions to you, you will find out that at certain points in human existence, man tends to get to his end and hence seek true knowledge that only the Almighty can give.

Christ' Love to you!

Fair enough. I may be young,but I am not gullible. I will not bow to the European fairy tales. Over here in England majority of native Europeans are not even religious. As life goes on and we become more advance,then we realize God is nothing but a fairy tale.

We are all spirits experiencing life on this planet via a body that will grow old and die out due to Gravitational pulls and other condition. When you we die we die. No hell or heaven. those are experiences you create for yourself.

We are all Christ and Almighty.

ifeness:
Yea fight for your imaginary friends. Terrorist! Bible slave

Bless ur heart!
Christ in you.

Macelliot:
Bless ur heart!
Christ in you.

Yes I am Christ. You can worship me if you want.

ifeness:
Yes I am Christ. You can worship me if you want.

Accept the Moral conciense in you and do away with the immoral.

Macelliot:
Accept the Moral conciense in you and do away with the immoral.

I do whatever I feel is right. What is moral to me may seem immoral to you. It is all abased on individuals.

ifeness:
I do whatever I feel is right. What is moral to me may seem immoral to you. It is all abased on individuals.

No, I disagree....
Moral things sometimes disagrees with nature(feeling, desire, lust e.t.c)
Ritualist feels right, Rapist sometimes feels right. Hitler feels he was right.

Macelliot:
No, I disagree....
Moral things sometimes disagrees with nature(feeling, desire, lust e.t.c)
Ritualist feels right, Rapist sometimes feels right. Hitler feels he was right.

There are laws to stop people hurting one another in a proper society. I don't know about Rituals as that is the perfect example of Jesus dying on the cross,circumcisions and other stuff are immoral to me. They may be moral to you.

@Ifeness, while it is proper to ask questions and analyze arguments and claims; only fools doubt proofs. I questioned His existence, His word and His power before, but today, there is NO MAN or ANYTHING that can make me deny the reality of His existence and dominion.

I sure have answers to the scriptures you quoted earlier but the answers are based on personal revelations which many times don't convince other people. In my walk with Yahweh, I have found out that He deals with each one of us uniquely to the glory of His name.

You may discredit the Omnipotence, Omniscience and Omnipresence of His Majesty, but for some of us who have seen Him arise for us everywhere we go and in all that we do, surmount seemingly insurmountable challenges, give us victory even when it seemed most unlikely, Heal us when medical science failed and also work in us to heal and restore joy to people's health and relationships; we know He is all in all and fills all.

Etfash:
@Ifeness, while it is proper to ask questions and analyze arguments and claims; only fools doubt proofs. I questioned His existence, His word and His power before, but today, there is NO MAN or ANYTHING that can make me deny the reality of His existence and dominion.

I sure have answers to the scriptures you quoted earlier but the answers are based on personal revelations which many times don't convince other people. In my walk with Yahweh, I have found out that He deals with each one of us uniquely to the glory of His name.

You may discredit the Omnipotence, Omniscience and Omnipresence of His Majesty, but for some of us who have seen Him arise for us everywhere we go and in all that we do, surmount seemingly insurmountable challenges, give us victory even when it seemed most unlikely, Heal us when medical science failed and also work in us to heal and restore joy to people's health and relationships; we know He is all in all and fills all.

If that is the case you don't need to be bothered about what I posted. It is hard for Christians to accept there is no God and the point of their religion is based on lies.

If believing in an invincible man makes you sane,by every means keep believing.