₦airaland Forum

IanDiamonds:
Which ever law makes provision for Unemployed Youth to get scammed by the FG, whatever law allows the "Stealing is not corruption Rule" to be a real manifest..
Whatever law forces an Independent Electoral body to bend to its own laws which under normal circumstances would not be allowed...

I love guys that reason with their heads not their hearts...going sentimental isn't it bro...so stop the cries and think clearly...

Please, I got off my bed to upload and post this video of the interview. Buhari is not paying me to do this. The Future of my children is what is driving me. How can somebody be saying this?? Do you have conscience at all?

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thev0ice1:
What do you think about David Mark the senate president? He was a military governor under Buhari and a military minister under IBB.

Do you consider him a democrat?

When you're done with that, tell me how GMB if he gets elected as president will suspend the constitution and rule by decrees as a democratically elected president

His problem is not just that he was in the army, his problem is more of his person than his military training.

He is a self righteous and tenacious individual who does not believe he is wrong. he has refused to apologise for his truncating of democracy.
He refused to present himself to Oputa panel like other Generals who believed they are above the law.
He still thinks he is the messiah sent by God to salvage Nigeria the reason why he has not produced any other Buhari to take his place at this freaking age.

agabaI23:
You are welcome here my good friend. Tell me he did not say what I wrote? See the highlighted in the first post na. I do not lie!!!

That guy is not fit for democracy. He did not succeed when he was sole administrator, it now that he will be hounded with constitutional matter that he will. Never!!

Is David mark, the senate president and no 3 man in govt today fit for democracy? hope you remember the posts he held in the military era and his antecedents as one of the IBB boys? What about Ahmadu Alli, jona's campaign director? is he also fit for any role in a democracy? What about Tony Anenih? Is he also fit for democratic practice with his police antecedents?

Mention one military ruler that works with the full constitution.

agabaI23:
So you fight evil with evil abi?
How nice

Do you live im the past?.. This was how things was done then.. We're talking of scenarios that happened over 20 years ago...

IanDiamonds:
You forgot OP twisted the words of the Former General... Your context of belief is therefore born of a contradiction and that will rule your assertion a Negative..

How did he twist it He copied or quoted the exact words of buhari which is still there...why not go back and take a look maybe you will see where you derailed...that way, you will see how you are arguing about what you don't even know talk more of reading...

agabaI23:
His problem is not just that he was in the army, his problem is more of his person than his military training.

He is a self righteous and tenacious individual who does not believe he is wrong. he has refused to apologise for his truncating of democracy.
He refused to present himself to Oputa panel like other Generals who believed they are above the law.
He still thinks he is the messiah sent by God to salvage Nigeria the reason why he has not produced any other Buhari to take his place at this freaking age.

Has David Mark apologised for saying telephones are not for the poor when he was communications minister under IBB? How many apologies has IBB himself made over his annulment of june 12?

Of course he believes he has something to offer the nation that's why he's contesting. what where you expecting? Is he older than presidents worldwide who made marks on their country in old age?

thev0ice1:
Is David mark, the senate president and no 3 man in govt today fit for democracy? hope you remember the posts he held in the military era and his antecedents as one of the IBB boys? What about Ahmadu Alli, jona's campaign director? is he also for for any role in a democracy? What about Tony Anenih? Is he also fit for democratic practice with his police antecedents?

Mention one military ruler that works with the full constitution.

I responded to this above

agabaI23:
His problem is not just that he was in the army, his problem is more of his person than his military training.
He is a self righteous and tenacious individual who does not believe he is wrong. he has refused to apologise for his truncating of democracy.
He refused to present himself to Oputa panel like other Generals who believed they are above the law.
He still thinks he is the messiah sent by God to salvage Nigeria the reason why he has not produced any other Buhari to take his place at this freaking age.

Whynotthetruth:
I love guys that reason with their heads not their hearts...going sentimental isn't it bro...so stop the cries and think clearly...

If you had reasoned well enough, you'd have noticed I avoided using the word "Constitution" , instead I used "Normal Law". They share some attributes but they're different words... Maybe if you read my statements again you'd understand...

agabaI23:
Come, Buhari could not stop a palace coup and he has been boasting of using intelligence to fight Bokoharam.

If he was that good with inteligence, he would have kept his government for a longer period. He was a careless General.


If he could not protect his palace, how can he protect Nigeria from Boko haram except he is the sponsor anyway

You're trying too hard my friend. A palace coup is what it is...a palace coup. Granted he got outwitted by IBB and his team but that must be the reason IBB outwitted the entire country for 8 years. The maradona is good.

thev0ice1:
Has David Mark apologised for saying telephones are not for the poor when he was communications minister under IBB? How many apologies has IBB himself made over his annulment of june 12?

Of course he believes he has something to offer the nation that's why he's contesting. what where you expecting? Is he older than presidents worldwide who made marks on their country in old age?

David mark is not running for presidency. When he runs, we will ask that question.

For now it is left for people Benue to ask him that question.

If you present yourself for an elective post, you are presenting yourself to be examined with microscope by your opponent.

Now lets talk about Buhari my friend

agabaI23:
I responded to this above

No my friend. that post doesn't answer it

thev0ice1:
What do you think about David Mark the senate president? He was a military governor under Buhari and a military minister under IBB.

Do you consider him a democrat?

When you're done with that, tell me how GMB if he gets elected as president will suspend the constitution and rule by decrees as a democratically elected president

David Mark isn't as important as a president. He can be impeached any day and replaced by another...life goes on...But can same be meted out to a president with no political, economic and social implications No...David Mark went to the senate to learn the rudiments of democracy and has grown to be senate president... he's more a democrat now than a soldier....

Let buhari go back and grow through the ladder...learn the fundamentals of democracy and practice same before coming to contest for the highest office in the land... As for now, he's no democrat...shikena

thev0ice1:
You're trying too hard my friend. A palace coup is what it is...a palace coup. Granted he got outwitted by IBB and his team but that must be the reason IBB outwitted the entire country for 8 years. The maradona is good.

Then he is not good enough intelligencewise and should not say, what is bokoharam when he could not protect himself from IBB.

The Boko guys are wittier and more dangerous than IBB. It means the will steal him from his bed

thev0ice1:
No my friend. that post doesn't answer it

It did bro, it did!

agabaI23:
David mark is not running for presidency. When he runs, we will ask that question.

For now it is left for people Benue to ask him that question.

If you present yourself for an elective post, you are presenting yourself to be examined with microscope by your opponent.

Now lets talk about Buhari my friend

David Mark is bigger than just representing benue. He's the no 3 man in the country. If anything happens to gej and sambo today, he takes over. He's the head of the law making body in the country. If you're uncomfortable with GMB being president, you should be more uncomfortable with a lawless military man being in charge of law making for the country and he's been there for over 12 years and counting.

IanDiamonds:
If you had reasoned well enough, you'd have noticed I avoided using the word "Constitution" , instead I used "Normal Law". They share some attributes but they're different words... Maybe if you read my statements again you'd understand...

Do we have two laws in Nigeria do we have constitution and then again normal laws normal law ke abnormal law ni...stop confusing yourself bro

I don't like to repeat myself. Oputa panel is not a court or tribunal. It is not known to the law. It was only a truth and reconcilliation commission. Like padi-padi things. No one is bound to honor it. Buhari has no case to answer, whoever feels otherwise should go to court

Whynotthetruth:
I hate it when folks choose to manipulate the truth...What do you mean by Buhari suspended PART of the constitution How much does it cost to have the truth undiluted from guys like you

The point here isn't what the tradition is with military junta...but that buhari's highhandedness, intolerance, tyranny, dictatorship, & unjust treatment of the populace was legendary. And now that he is confronted with this truth from his past records; he's trying to run away and shift the blame to constitutional hiccups.
That shows height of irresponsibility on buhari because he doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions.
If he couldn't function under constitutional provisions then why now The constitution is more tight now even. If he's Not proud of his actions then and doesn't want them tagged to him; why did he snub Oputa panel Why has he not apologised to Nigerians
His integrity and incorruptibility mantra was from same regime. These should be dropped as well if he doesn't want the negatives of same regime. They all go pari parsu...shikena

Look at this statement again @theV0ice

'if we did not suspend the constitution then, it would have been difficult for us to operate under those circumstances"

Interprete it your way. You know I respect you because you admit and say the truth.

agabaI23:
Then he is not good enough intelligencewise and should not say, what is bokoharam when he could not protect himself from IBB.

The Boko guys are wittier and more dangerous than IBB. It means the will steal him from his bed

once again, you're trying too hard. there's a difference between fighting a war and stopping a palace coup. You're desperately clutching at straws with this point.

If you're admitting BH has already infiltrated jonathan's govt hence possibility of a coup by shekau even today, then i might empathize with your point.

Then with the way GEJ govt has bastardized the military, it's very possible we could wake up tomorrow and hear BH have abducted him right from inside the villa

Whynotthetruth:
How did he twist it He copied or quoted the exact words of buhari which is still there...why not go back and take a look maybe you will see where you derailed...that way, you will see how you are arguing about what you don't even know talk more of reading...

@bolded shows uncertainty.... @Op carefully carved out the part of Buhari's statement that suited his argument...
Rember the thread reads I Can't Comply With The Constitution & Function Properly- Buhari . This statements bears to most readers that buhari asserted that he (Buhari) can't comply with the constitution WHEN elected President. This would be misleading as Buhari was referring to the situation he worked upon when he was HOS and not withthe current democratic setting we're in. Hope you get where the contradiction was born

barcanista:
I don't like to repeat myself. Oputa panel is not a court or tribunal. It is not known to the law. It was only a truth and reconcilliation commission. Like padi-padi things. No one is bound to honor it. Buhari has no case to answer, whoever feels otherwise should go to court

He did not want to reconcile with anybody then because he thinks he did nothing wrong and yet he won't want to be associated with the atrocities he committed. That amounts to eating your cake and trying to have it again.

agabaI23:
Look at this statement again @theV0ice

'if we did not suspend the constitution then, it would have been difficult for us to operate under those circumstances"

Interprete it your way. You know I respect you because you admit and say the truth.

You know what the circumstances where?

No more legislature, no more elected governors, president etc.

The constitution is created for democratic rule. This shouldn't be this hard my friend

IanDiamonds:
@bolded shows uncertainty.... @Op carefully carved out the part of Buhari's statement that suited his argument...
Rember the thread reads I Can't Comply With The Constitution & Function Properly- Buhari . This statements bears to most readers that buhari asserted that he (Buhari) can't comply with the constitution WHEN elected President. This would be misleading as Buhari was referring to the situation he worked upon when he was HOS and not withthe current democratic setting we're in. Hope you get where the contradiction was born

Tell me the different between the title

and if we did not suspend the constitution then, it would have been difficult for us to operate under those circumstances

What is the difference?

barcanista:
I don't like to repeat myself. Oputa panel is not a court or tribunal. It is not known to the law. It was only a truth and reconcilliation commission. Like padi-padi things. No one is bound to honor it. Buhari has no case to answer, whoever feels otherwise should go to court

lolz... when they go to court now; Liar Mohammed will start crying foul again... but then again; if buhari isn't interested in peace and reconciliation committee in Nigeria, what is he then coming to do Don't you think it is a slap on our collective integrity and a rape of our sanctity of memory of justice and progress So what change is he screaming if he isn't interested in peace and reconciliation what's the essence of democracy if he's not answerable to the masses Oputa panel was the peoples court of mass reconciliation, peace, and harmony for a new Nigeria... so why did buhari shun the court of the masses

Whynotthetruth:
David Mark isn't as important as a president. He can be impeached any day and replaced by another...life goes on...But can same be meted out to a president with no political, economic and social implications No...David Mark went to the senate to learn the rudiments of democracy and has grown to be senate president... he's more a democrat now than a soldier....

Let buhari go back and grow through the ladder...learn the fundamentals of democracy and practice same before coming to contest for the highest office in the land... As for now, he's no democrat...shikena

You know you don't even believe what you said up there. How many of you kicked against OBJ presidency with all these tantrums?

Can you boldly say you believe GMB will re-enact 1984 all over again if he wins the coming elections?

IanDiamonds:
Do you live im the past?.. This was how things was done then.. We're talking of scenarios that happened over 20 years ago...

I don't live in the past but if i present a woman who killed his husband 20 years ago, will you marry her?

By the way, we do not live in the past but you guys are touting him based on his fraudulently acquired integrity toga and you want us to forget the accompanying atrocities?

That selective amnesia my friend and it is not good for the nation. History is kept so that we do not repeat the mistakes of the past.

Whynotthetruth:
Do we have two laws in Nigeria do we have constitution and then again normal laws normal law ke abnormal law ni...stop confusing yourself bro

It appears you also have a bad knowledge of how a Martiak Law works.... The Normal Law (Corrupt Practices) of the seating govt. Let me give you an example so you'll understand further what I mean by Normal Law..
Let's assune the constitution states that "Any individual found guilty of Corruption should be sentenced to 10years impisonment"...should the seating govt breaks this law anf they're not prosecuted cuz they are in power, they no longer operate under the constitution but on their own law which noe becomes the "Normal Law".. This Normal Law superceeds the constitution because they are no longer governed by it (Note: Whoever is governed by the constitution must obey it. Clearly they have no regard for it brcause

Whynotthetruth:
lolz... when they go to court now; Liar Mohammed will start crying foul again... but then again; if buhari isn't interested in peace and reconciliation committee in Nigeria, what is he then coming to do Don't you think it is a slap on our collective integrity and a rape of our sanctity of memory of justice and progress So what change is he screaming if he isn't interested in peace and reconciliation what's the essence of democracy if he's not answerable to the masses Oputa panel was the peoples court of mass reconciliation, peace, and harmony for a new Nigeria... so why did buhari shun the court of the masses

Like they have paid a judge to deliver a judgement against the saint without certificate!

thev0ice1:
once again, you're trying too hard. there's a difference between fighting a war and stopping a palace coup. You're desperately clutching at straws with this point.

If you're admitting BH has already infiltrated jonathan's govt hence possibility of a coup by shekau even today, then i might empathize with your point.

Then with the way GEJ govt has bastardized the military, it's very possible we could wake up tomorrow and here BH have abducted him right from inside the villa

No it is easier to stop a palace coup than to fight asymetric war. If he could not protect himself from ordinary palace coup, how will he fair well in face of faceless aggression?

IanDiamonds:
@bolded shows uncertainty.... @Op carefully carved out the part of Buhari's statement that suited his argument...
Rember the thread reads I Can't Comply With The Constitution & Function Properly- Buhari . This statements bears to most readers that buhari asserted that he (Buhari) can't comply with the constitution WHEN elected President. This would be misleading as Buhari was referring to the situation he worked upon when he was HOS and not withthe current democratic setting we're in. Hope you get where the contradiction was born

If he couldn't work back then with the constitution; what makes you believe he can do it today with same constitution which is even tighter now

agabaI23:
Like they have paid a judge to deliver a judgement against the saint without certificate!

lolz...