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The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by Gh0stFreak(op): 1:52pm On Feb 18, 2015
well,i decided to move the thread here because the original thread ( www.nairaland.com/2153519/gospel-change-according-saint-apc ) was derailed beyond repair by some people who hate to hear the truth.

all credits go to barcanista


barcanista:
1. FEDERAL LEVEL:
According to "Saint" APC, change is when those men that were prominent in federal leadership between 1999-2007 turn their back on the PDP and pledge loyalty to them. All major players as at then are now "change agents" except the Senate Presidents.
President 1999-2007- Obasanjo (the navigator)
Vice President(1999-2007)- Atiku Abubakar the "defender" of democracy and APC Chieftain.
Speaker of House of Reps (2003-2007)- Bello Mansari(APC Gov Candidate in Katsina)
Only the Senate Presidents between those times are in PDP.

Perhaps, APC Atiku will tell PDP Jonathan that "PDP has been ruling for 15years)

2. Progress is When You swap your PDP Card For APC even after being a major flop as a office holder.
Let's see...
Bukola Saraki has been a governor for 8 years in Kwara state, now a Senator, yet the Kwarans are living in misery while he is living in plenty. He swapped party, he is now a progress whether an average Kwaran likes it or not. His stooge Gov Ahmed is also a "progress" because his loyalty to oga is more important than to Kwara.
The same people that said "PDP has failed in Kwara" as at 2011 are the same people dancing progressive is in Kwara in 2013-2015.

3. Change Is When You Kill the FOI:
The "navigator" Obasanjo had refused to sign the FOI when the NASS sent it to him in March 2007.
The "wonder" Governor Fashola refused to honor request by SERAP by disclosing how he spent money meant for education for 5 years. His response was "Lagos Is not bound by FOI"
SERAP took Lagos to Court in Jan 2014... http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/foi-lagos-gov-court-spending-education-lagos/
Though the Court ruled that FOI does not need to be domesticated in states, it also ruled no state is obligated to it because it was passed by NASS. The question is what are they hiding? APC states Lagos, Imo and Rivers have been refusing requests.
N/B: SERAP is one among many that had written to the LASG concerning information.
Jonathan signed it into law in 2011. Governments of developed nations all over the world practice it http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_information_laws_by_country
But our "change agents" would rather not.
Question: how can we check fraud without FOI in place?

3. Change Is When You Relegate Your loyal Associates To Satisfy "angry" PDP Govs:
Let's see...
Buba Marwa has been in Adamawa CPC since 2011, he contested against PDP Nyako twice and followed through to the merger.
Ibrahim Shekarau has been in Kano ANPP since 2003 where he rose to be Governor for 8years. He was a key member of the merger process.
Attahiru Bafarawa of Sokoto State has always been an opposition since 1998. He was ANPP governor for 8years and then he formed DPP before moving to ACN. He was part of the merger.
Alhaji Muhammed Balgore of Kwara State has been with AC since I have known. He contested for Gov against Saraki in 2007 and Ahmed in 2011. He was part of the merger.

All the aforementioned people were dumped by the party after the merger with party structure handed over to the Cross-over PDP Govs.
Kwankwaso took Kano, Nyako took Adamawa, Wamakko took Sokoto, Saraki/Ahmed took Kwara. The now exLeaders were relegated because they "have no money". They all moved to PDP.
That is the #Change! Not forgeting Akpan Udoedehe treatment.

4. Change Is When You Have 2 Fmr PDP National Chairmen Leading Your Rank:
Chief Audu Ogbeh and Barnabas Germade were PDP Chairmen under Segun Obasanjo/Atiku Abubakar administration. Today, all these men are shouting #Change when they were in government between 1999-2007. The case of Germade is worse. He was elected PDP Senator in 2011 but fell out with Suswam for the PDP ticket for 2015. He moved to APC and within 24hrs he was given the ticket. Halelluyah he's now a #Change agent.

5. It is Progressive For Okorocha To Move from PDP to AA to ANPP to PDP to APGA and to APC, but it is unpatriotic and lack of ideology for barcanista to switch support from GEJ to APC and Back to GEJ after seeing the hypocrisy, despite the fact that he was Never a card carring member.
It is okay for Amaechi to move from PDP that he was elected for 15years to APC, but it becomes treachery and foolish for Nuhu Ribadu to move to PDP that gave him a platform as a policeman.

6. Change is when Opeyemi Bamidele is tagged a traitor because he demanded that there should be primaries and he exercise his right to aspire to rule Ekiti. On the flip side, it is democratic for the jagaban to determine who get what in APC.

Fellow Nigerians, Buhari is a decent man though not perfect but the men he's with are "change" agents. We don't need such kind of retrogressive change.

Add yours...
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by Gh0stFreak(op): 1:56pm On Feb 18, 2015
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Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 1:57pm On Feb 18, 2015
Political affiliation aside; GEJ is a big failure...where are the Chibok girls? what is the fate of hundreds of people slaughtered daily by Boko Haram?...what about the botched "scam" called Immigration recruitment? The list is endless and I can go on and on...In saner climes GEJ won't stand for re-election. Truth is Buhari may not be a better alternative but Nigerians are simply tired of GEJ/PDP. We are stuck in between choosing the lesser of two evils! #SayingItTheWayItIs
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by thunder74(m): 2:11pm On Feb 18, 2015
I was sympathetic to APC before now until the scale of APC Hypocrisy fell off my eyes. Many will realise their errors when it too late. Wish APC could be better.
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by thunder74(m): 2:15pm On Feb 18, 2015
MrFernandez:
Political affiliation aside; GEJ is a big failure...where are the Chibok girls? what is the fate of hundreds of people slaughtered daily by Boko Haram?...what about the botched "scam" called Immigration recruitment? The list is endless and I can go on and on...In saner climes GEJ won't stand for re-election. Truth is Buhari may not be a better alternative but Nigerians are simply tired of GEJ/PDP. We are stuck in between choosing the lesser of two evils! #SayingItTheWayItIs
Do a critical check of all that decamped from PDP, you will agree that they are the corruption and non performance problem of PDP.
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 2:23pm On Feb 18, 2015
thunder74:
Do a critical check of all that decamped from PDP, you will agree that they are the corruption and non performance problem of PDP.

Did you read the part where I said we are stuck between choosing the lesser of two evils
?
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by thunder74(m): 2:30pm On Feb 18, 2015
MrFernandez:

Did you read the part where I said we are stuck between choosing the lesser of two evils
?
You also said....
"In saner climes GEJ won't stand for re-election. Truth is Buhari may not be a better alternative but Nigerians are simply tired of GEJ/PDP"
At bolded was the reason for my response bc the position you took showed that you have made a choice out of the two devils.
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by dazdilijae(m): 2:37pm On Feb 18, 2015
MrFernandez:
Political affiliation aside; GEJ is a big failure...where are the Chibok girls? what is the fate of hundreds of people slaughtered daily by Boko Haram?...what about the botched "scam" called Immigration recruitment? The list is endless and I can go on and on...In saner climes GEJ won't stand for re-election. Truth is Buhari may not be a better alternative but Nigerians are simply tired of GEJ/PDP. We are stuck in between choosing the lesser of two evils! #SayingItTheWayItIs
Truth be told GEJ in trying to be a democrat allowed certain issues go outa control but his regime is the best we have eva had so far and there is no way his 2nd term would be as the first even if he wanted to so lets support the man
2. Worse things happened in OBJ's tenure like the ODI and ZAKIBIAM saga where the govt deliberately killed its citizens and no one is shouting bout that. BH is a faceless group who carry out terrorist activities and the people of the region knowing most of them has refused to help flush them out cos to them its a tool to wrestle power from a so called clueless minority southerner so if lives are lost its a supreme price for power huh
3. Political assassinations took place in virtually every other Administration before GEJ's but with all the power tussle the GEJ administration has neither arrested any one unduly or even has the opposition had the opportunity to assassinate some1 even in a bid to discredit the Govt so human lives mean a lot to this administration.
4. Chibok girls is an unfortunate incidence and no sane person should use it as a political tool to discuss elections less lets all pray here that their loved ones(father, mother, children, lover or themselves) be kidnapped too by ISSI or Business Kidnaping syndicates in the Mighty Name of Jesus AMEN
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 2:38pm On Feb 18, 2015
thunder74:
You also said....
At bolded was the reason for my response bc the position you took showed that you have made a choice out of the two devils.

Good you actually noticed...the APC isn't a party of saints either but it is still provides a better alternative from the status quo! I am more about personalities and not the party per se! Without fear or favour in the local assembly election in my LG I am voting the PDP candidate, HOR- Accord party, Senate- APC, Guber- PDP, Presidential- APC...We shouldn't let our love for political parties becloud our sense of reasoning! If the political party I support presents a candidate I consider below par I will settle for the better alternative!
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 2:45pm On Feb 18, 2015
dazdilijae:
Truth be told GEJ in trying to be a democrat allowed certain issues go outa control but his regime is the best we have eva had so far and there is no way his 2nd term would be as the first even if he wanted to so lets support the man
2. Worse things happened in OBJ's tenure like the ODI and ZAKIBIAM saga where the govt deliberately killed its citizens and no one is shouting bout that. BH is a faceless group who carry out terrorist activities and the people of the region knowing most of them has refused to help flush them out cos to them its a tool to wrestle power from a so called clueless minority southerner so if lives are lost its a supreme price for power huh
3. Political assassinations took place in virtually every other Administration before GEJ's but with all the power tussle the GEJ administration has neither arrested any one unduly or even has the opposition had the opportunity to assassinate some1 even in a bid to discredit the Govt so human lives mean a lot to this administration.
4. Chibok girls is an unfortunate incidence and no sane person should use it as a political tool to discuss elections less lets all pray here that their loved ones(father, mother, children, lover or themselves) be kidnapped too by ISSI or Business Kidnaping syndicates in the Mighty Name of Jesus AMEN

I agree on the need not the to politicise the issue of the Chibok girls...but the question that begs for answer is what has GEJ in his capacity as CinC done to curb the excesses of this sect? Did you read of the story of the biblical sheperd who abandoned 99 sheep's just to go in search of 1...America will never watch it's citizens be in captivity for over 6months
!
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by luvinhubby(m): 2:52pm On Feb 18, 2015
APC apologists are quick to refer Buhari's zero- tolerance of corruption 30yrs ago as the reason they believe he is the right man to right Nigeria's systemic corruption.
But APC will also be quick to reject any reference to Buhari's anti-democratic, human right abusing & religious extremist past, chanting "Buhari has changed".

To them, Buhari can only change of his -ve attributes but not his +ve ones.

To me, GEJ is the lesser of the two 'devils.'
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by Hero10001: 3:20pm On Feb 18, 2015
By the time Hamzat declared with great joy; "AND THE WINNER IS PDpiggg"..
Apsh.iters will have no option than to go do the needful..
Fvck the 1961 basterrdzz, screw em all.
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by dazdilijae(m): 4:11pm On Feb 18, 2015
MrFernandez:

I agree on the need not the to politicise the issue of the Chibok girls...but the question that begs for answer is what has GEJ in his capacity as CinC done to curb the excesses of this sect? Did you read of the story of the biblical sheperd who abandoned 99 sheep's just to go in search of 1...America will never watch it's citizens be in captivity for over 6months
!
I can remind you of the first military action in Maiduguri in May 2013 after a meeting with the elders of the region by GEJ to assure him of peace in the region as an effort to withdraw troops the people of the region including GMB said the military was killing their youth and calling them terrorist instead of treating them like the niger delta militant. it took GEJ almost 2years as C in C to convince the UN and AU that these people are not militants but terrorist.
Remember how over five(5) countries come into Nigeria in a bid to finding the chibok girls with all their sophisticated technology? who invited them to come? why is it that they could not share any credible intel with us till date instead wanted to know our military might? Remember how all effort to purchase weapons by GEJ administration was frustrated by our so called allies resulting in our using back channels? what really can a C in C do when his people are distracting and sabotaging him, his foreign allies are assisting his distractors, the opposition is using its contacts in the military to sabotage efforts of well meaning and gallant security personnel.
GEJ as C in C has done a lot please lets accept the facts
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by denko(m): 4:24pm On Feb 18, 2015
The propanganda will not end until the issue of IOC and Oil Well in the niger delta are fully taken care of, time shall tell, but know this the problem created by boko haram will hunt the creators and the sympathisers and thier generation for ever.
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 4:27pm On Feb 18, 2015
dazdilijae:
I can remind you of the first military action in Maiduguri in May 2013 after a meeting with the elders of the region by GEJ to assure him of peace in the region as an effort to withdraw troops the people of the region including GMB said the military was killing their youth and calling them terrorist instead of treating them like the niger delta militant. it took GEJ almost 2years as C in C to convince the UN and AU that these people are not militants but terrorist.
Remember how over five(5) countries come into Nigeria in a bid to finding the chibok girls with all their sophisticated technology? who invited them to come? why is it that they could not share any credible intel with us till date instead wanted to know our military might? Remember how all effort to purchase weapons by GEJ administration was frustrated by our so called allies resulting in our using back channels? what really can a C in C do when his people are distracting and sabotaging him, his foreign allies are assisting his distractors, the opposition is using its contacts in the military to sabotage efforts of well meaning and gallant security personnel.
GEJ as C in C has done a lot please lets accept the facts

I admit GEJ has done a lot...you forgot to mention moving millions of dollars in private jets to purchase arms!

You seem to forget that as CinC the buck stops on his table; sabotage or no sabotage! When the head is rotten; the body is useless!
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by lovesamzy: 4:33pm On Feb 18, 2015
Change is when El rufai said the best man for president today remain unelectable and have nothing to offer yesterday
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by engrtee(f): 4:41pm On Feb 18, 2015
truth be told,APC cant change nigeriaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by dazdilijae(m): 4:43pm On Feb 18, 2015
MrFernandez:

I admit GEJ has done a lot...you forgot to mention moving millions of dollars in private jets to purchase arms!

You seem to forget that as CinC the buck stops on his table; sabotage or no sabotage! When the head is rotten; the body is useless!
Can you truly say for sure the C in C is rotten or just normal fallacy of band waggon? (cos people say it means it's true)
if you read well I mentioned earlier that Remember how all effort to purchase weapons by GEJ administration was frustrated by our so called allies resulting in our using back channels?
Please be logical and accept reality as it is not how you want or wish it to be
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 4:52pm On Feb 18, 2015
dazdilijae:
Can you truly say for sure the C in C is rotten or just normal fallacy of band waggon? (cos people say it means it's true)
if you read well I mentioned earlier that Remember how all effort to purchase weapons by GEJ administration was frustrated by our so called allies resulting in our using back channels?
Please be logical and accept reality as it is not how you want or wish it to be

Guess your family member or anyone close to you wasn't a casualty of the scam called "immigration recruitment" was that an act of sabotage too? I do not support parties, I support personalities! I do not allow bias to becloud my reasoning and I do not mortgage my future in exchange for half truths and failed promises!
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by dazdilijae(m): 5:20pm On Feb 18, 2015
MrFernandez:

Guess your family member or anyone close to you wasn't a casualty of the scam called "immigration recruitment" was that an act of sabotage too? I do not support parties, I support personalities! I do not allow bias to becloud my reasoning and I do not mortgage my future in exchange for half truths and failed promises!
when a cup is half filled it is also half empty
Immigration scam is a system failure and no well meaning Nigerian would be happy bout it at least not me. But is that also a fault of GEJ?
If you tell your wife to allow your neighbour come fetch water from your tap due to lack of portable water on the street and your son takes 1kobo per bucket does it mean your intentions or directive is bad?
please direct the blame to the right channel a public servant has messed up the ICPC should arraign them in court and the rule of law should be followed please stop blaming GEJ
Immigration was jus one of such system failure the peoples representatives(NASS) could not correct even after many investigation (eg. Civil service, NSCDC, Customs) rather they exploited the weak points
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 5:48pm On Feb 18, 2015
dazdilijae:
when a cup is half filled it is also half empty
Immigration scam is a system failure and no well meaning Nigerian would be happy bout it at least not me. But is that also a fault of GEJ?
If you tell your wife to allow your neighbour come fetch water from your tap due to lack of portable water on the street and your son takes 1kobo per bucket does it mean your intentions or directive is bad?
please direct the blame to the right channel a public servant has messed up the ICPC should arraign them in court and the rule of law should be followed please stop blaming GEJ
Immigration was jus one of such system failure the peoples representatives(NASS) could not correct even after many investigation (eg. Civil service, NSCDC, Customs) rather they exploited the weak points

It's not his fault that the recruitment was a sham but it's his fault that Abba slowpoke is still a serving minister...It's his fault that he appointed Abba slowpoke who in turn outsourced what should have been an exclusive preserve of the agency concerned to a consultant who fleeced innocent youths of millions of Naira and some also died! Do you need me to educate you more?
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by dazdilijae(m): 6:04pm On Feb 18, 2015
MrFernandez:

It's not his fault that the recruitment was a sham but it's his fault that Abba slowpoke is still a serving minister...It's his fault that he appointed Abba slowpoke who in turn outsourced what should have been an exclusive preserve of the agency concerned to a consultant who fleeced innocent youths of millions of Naira and some also died! Do you need me to educate you more?
From all our discussion so far you ve agreed that our problem is misdirected to the wrong person that rather than support him in all he has been doing some people have jus been looking 4 the mistakes of any and every government official 2 blame it on him all in the name of C in C. Sayin d bulk stops on his desk therefore delegation of duties and separation of powers should be forgotten
Do you know why a civil servant has a 35yrs in service and a politician has a max of 8yrs of 2 terms? Let's allow institutions and systems work please
Re: The Gospel Of Change According To Saint Apc by MrFernandez(m): 9:19pm On Feb 18, 2015
dazdilijae:
From all our discussion so far you ve agreed that our problem is misdirected to the wrong person that rather than support him in all he has been doing some people have jus been looking 4 the mistakes of any and every government official 2 blame it on him all in the name of C in C. Sayin d bulk stops on his desk therefore delegation of duties and separation of powers should be forgotten
Do you know why a civil servant has a 35yrs in service and a politician has a max of 8yrs of 2 terms? Let's allow institutions and systems work please

To start with Bro, learn the use of punctuation marks! I can't get a shit of what you are tryna say!
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