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Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 1:41pm On Feb 23, 2015
dein77:
And why do you think Barcanista is obsessed with getting back at Gbawe? The guy only cleared the allegations levelled against him, and has moved on with his life.

Make una no harm this guy ooo
What's my own business? I no dey carry Nl matter on top my head
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by dein77(m): 1:42pm On Feb 23, 2015
Bizinton:
You can lie, Jisosss!
The truth is that your conscience is worth a price. PDP figured it out and paid, that was all.
Yes. Everybody has a price. And that price could be in the form of some superior information now available. He saw the true light.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by dein77(m): 1:45pm On Feb 23, 2015
harde2lah:
What's my own business? I no dey carry Nl matter on top my head
He's decamped. That's his opinion. But I'm getting a bit worried over the vile attacks and lampooning the young man is subjected to.

Agreed he was deeply instrumental to their campaign. Now he's decamped. They should let him be.

Information changes allegiance!
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 1:55pm On Feb 23, 2015
TippyTop:
Good idea, you have a reputation on Nairaland, leave us the minions to take the war to whoever wants war with you. grin grin grin
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by joseph1832(m): 1:58pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
God sparing our lives we shall continue to probe into the antecedents of our "Change" agents and their navigator the "most noble" Olusegun Obasanjo. I will not respond to unwarranted provocative attack on me neither will I be cowed to submission by anyone. Hiding behind a General with brooms on your hand doesn't make one a change agent. Those Hawks that destroyed and are still destroying Nigeria won't be accommodated in Aso Rock whether in 2015, 2019 or 2023. God will help us all
The hawks you speak of, do they also include the PDP members?.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by TippyTop(m): 2:08pm On Feb 23, 2015
@barcanista, oga permit me to follow you.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Matthewbriggs(m):
barcanista:
PS: My problem with some of you is to make excuse for your leaders. A real progressive will move for the foi implementation in their states and not hide under a cloak. Thanks
@ Mynd44 if you are truly a progressive you would take the bolded statement serious. The moment APC and her goons start holding their leaders responsible the same way they do to GEJ.

In that moment. I would begin to take them serious.

The above statement is one of my major grouse with your party. Their hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by samflex(m): 2:10pm On Feb 23, 2015
Mr barcanista are you cramjones or ffk? You share similarities of talking from both end as the people mentioned.
A month ago you were progressive now you're in pdp after election postponement.
You've refused to quote all the sweet article you wrote on apc, do I smell military protection or bribe?
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by joseph1832(m): 2:30pm On Feb 23, 2015
Barcanista, the fifth point you mention about FFK selling his soul and Tambuwal decamping from all the political party in the world actually made me laugh.

It actually got me thinking, FFK, Tambuwal and you share a particular trait, You're all political prostitutes!!!.

So just how much did you sell your soul for, we know the amount FFK and Tambuwal sold their soul but you we don't know, so do kindly tell.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by rusher14: 3:13pm On Feb 23, 2015
dein77:
He's decamped. That's his opinion. But I'm getting a bit worried over the vile attacks and lampooning the young man is subjected to.

Agreed he was deeply instrumental to their campaign. Now he's decamped. They should let him be.

Information inducement changes allegiance!
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 3:16pm On Feb 23, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
@ Mynd44 if you are truly a progressive you would take the bolded statement serious. The moment APC and her goons start holding their leaders responsible the same way they do to GEJ.

In that's moment. I would beginto take them serious.

The above statement is one of my major grouse with your party. Their hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens
There is also the problem of Intolerance from the "Progressive Camp". Which society can develop or change with people's view shut down?
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 3:21pm On Feb 23, 2015
joseph1832:
Barcanista, the fifth point you mention about FFK selling his soul and Tambuwal decamping from all the political party in the world actually made me laugh.

It actually got me thinking, FFK, Tambuwal and you share a particular trait, You're all political prostitutes!!!.

So just how much did you sell your soul for, we know the amount FFK and Tambuwal sold their soul but you we don't know, so do kindly tell.
What about Buhari that left ANPP to form CPC? Is he also a political prostitute? Have I been a card carrying member of APC? Anyway, freedom of Association is one of our right as guaranteed by the constitution. You can call that prostitution but that actually is illogical. The merit of the original thread is most important.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 3:28pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
What about Buhari that left ANPP to form CPC? Is he also a political prostitute? Have I been a card carrying member of APC? Anyway, freedom of Association is one of our right as guaranteed by the constitution. You can call that prostitution but that actually is illogical. The merit of the original thread is most important.
wow!! Smackdown undecided
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by adaweezy(m): 3:28pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
I don't like to engage in back and forth.
1. I will ignore

2. Tell your people to implement FOI so we can have documented substance to work with just like GEJ did.

3. Tinubu was cleared of charges relating to operating foreign account as governor by the Code of Conduct tribunal. However, the FOI will provide us more information on LASG spending.

4. I never justified VP Sambo statement, at the same time will not justify intolerance by APC. If they want to change they should be the change themselves and not being worse than the incumbent party.

PS: My problem with some of you is to make excuse for your leaders. A real progressive will move for the foi implementation in their states and not hide under a cloak. Thanks
on Number 2/3 the ICPC and the EFCC/police do not need the FOI bill to work stop shooting yourself in the Foot...
I thought you where smart
you don't need to lie to justify yourself.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 3:50pm On Feb 23, 2015
customized13:
wow!! Smackdown undecided
Some people will want to use blackmail to hold someone to remain in their group. I wonder whether they are democrats if they won't respect the right to association. When the Govs decamped, PDP never called them names like Sell outs or stuffs. When Buhari left ANPP the ANPP leaders said he's a good riddance to bad rubbish and an "ingrate". They are always hostile and usually seek a cult-like following whether people are happy with them or not is irrelevant. They can't be the change
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 3:55pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
Some people will want to use blackmail to hold someone to remain in their group. I wonder whether they are democrats if they won't respect the right to association. When the Govs decamped, PDP never called them names like Sell outs or stuffs. When Buhari left ANPP the ANPP leaders said he's a good riddance to bad rubbish and an "ingrate". They are always hostile and usually seek a cult-like following whether people are happy with them or not is irrelevant. They can't be the change
no matter what they say or do, we are very happy to you in our midst, intellects like you are of great importance to any organization they are. I think know this and that's why they are getting furious.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Matthewbriggs(m): 3:57pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
There is also the problem of Intolerance from the "Progressive Camp". Which society can develop or change with people's view shut down?
Exactly...

They can dish out criticism but cry foul when under criticism.

What APC stands for is an illusion of change
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by agabaI23(m): 3:58pm On Feb 23, 2015
IbnSultaan:
A person remains innocent untill found guilty by a Court
What has stop the PDP jonathan Govt frm prosecuting the individuals u mention


* all pass cases of corruption will be follow by the anti graft agencies
*an APC Govt with GMB will ensure transparency
*
APC chairman said no past leader will be probed after Buhari said he would probe past leaders.

Buhari said he would probe the army and later said he will not.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Matthewbriggs(m): 4:10pm On Feb 23, 2015
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Oga Seun thank God say u dey read dis thread.


"Abeg na wetin happen to our dear Barcanista?" angry
He left the camp of hypocrites.

He ran away from backstabbers and people who detest conflicting opinions.

He left the camp of a group of people who find it fun to dish out criticism but cry foul when been criticized.

He left the camp of criminals who are now re branding themselves as change.

Deal with it.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Matthewbriggs(m): 4:14pm On Feb 23, 2015
joseph1832:
Barcanista, the fifth point you mention about FFK selling his soul and Tambuwal decamping from all the political party in the world actually made me laugh.

It actually got me thinking, FFK, Tambuwal and you share a particular trait, You're all political prostitutes!!!.

So just how much did you sell your soul for, we know the amount FFK and Tambuwal sold their soul but you we don't know, so do kindly tell.
Please add Buhari to your list and Ameachi.

It is very surprising that Buhari is also a political prostitute as well, unlike GEJ who has been with PDP since time immemorial.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by joseph1832(m): 4:41pm On Feb 23, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
Please add Buhari to your list and Ameachi.

It is very surprising that Buhari is also a political prostitute as well, unlike GEJ who has been with PDP since time immemorial.
I have no love for Amaechi! Tell me, which political party did Buhari decamp from?.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by joseph1832(m): 4:51pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
What about Buhari that left ANPP to form CPC? Is he also a political prostitute? Have I been a card carrying member of APC? Anyway, freedom of Association is one of our right as guaranteed by the constitution. You can call that prostitution but that actually is illogical. The merit of the original thread is most important.
I'm surprise one such as you can reason this way. Buhari 'left' ANPP to form his own political party the CPC that has no political structure whatsoever!. A party he formed from the scratch so tell me what on Earth are you talking about?

And which merit of which original thread are you talking about? Once you were all Buhari now you are all GEJ, and you still talk about merit. Please don't delude yourself that you can fool me.

My good man, its obvious that you've sold your soul, how much, I don't know, but people like you and the likes of Amaechi, Tinubu, OBJ, Tambuwal and others out there who prostitute themselves about are the major reason why Nigeria is in this 'yeye' state that she is!.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by rigarmortis: 4:59pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista you are blessed
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Matthewbriggs(m): 5:15pm On Feb 23, 2015
joseph1832:
I have no love for Amaechi! Tell me, which political party did Buhari decamp from?.
Buhari formally left the ANPP and joined the CPC in March 2010.

Buhari is a political prostitute not any didifferent from FFK.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by mrmetoo1: 5:38pm On Feb 23, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
He left the camp of hypocrites.

He ran away from backstabbers and people who detest conflicting opinions.

He left the camp of a group of people who find it fun to dish out criticism but cry foul when been criticized.

He left the camp of criminals who are now re branding themselves as change.

Deal with it.
And ran into the arms of the people who threatened to hurt him physically! Makes sense! Makes sense!!
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by mrmetoo1:
Barcanista is blessed, at least on Nairaland as I don't know him personally. He must have done a lot of things right to gain all the attention he does. In life though, what you use your blessings for is important.

Barcanista lists all the things APC has done wrong and goes on to support PDP. If I were new to Nigeria, I'll think this means PDP is the party that is anti-APC meaning all those things he listed about APC, PDP doesn't participate in. In short you'll think PDP were saints. As we know though PDP has been at the helm of affairs for 16yrs and have been the majority in all almost every part of government and Nigeria is still the way it is.

Yes APC are not saints but can Barcanista honestly say PDP has done better? Can he honestly say PDP hasn't had their hands in the national cake more than APC?

We know this election is not between saints, its between performers. To me APC has proven themselves to be performers. I take Fashola as my example. The same barcanista said "God forbid" when Agbaje said he was going to run Lagos the way PDP runs their states. Is Barcanista now going to say "Amen" to that??

I really don't have a problem with Barcanista exposing APC, God knows I want Nigeria to be as cleansed from these thieves as much as possible but to act like because now you realize APC are not saints and so therefore go on to support PDP doesn't add up.

Its the same reasoning as PDP is threatening my life, APC online folks are abusing me. Lets run to those threatening my life! It doesn't make sense to me but others might see it differently

If Barcanista all of a sudden became a neutral critic, it'll make sense to me. In fact being a neutral critic would have actually had a bigger effect on damaging APC if truly you're being paid to do that.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by LFJ: 6:30pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
Actually bro, I had expected GMB to exert his authority on the APC. I have always stood with GMB hoping that his influence on transparency will prevail. But alas, I noticed that he himself is limited in influence. For instance I disagreed with the APC on different issues. The thing is I didn't really focus my attention on them until recently. May God open our eyes. Thank u for the forgiveness.
Very good example of how Nigerians run their mouths when money change hands. All these trash just because APC said no to bribery and corruption. If you want protection just because you are expressing your feeling on faceless forum, what do you want APC to give to those who show their faces to the whole world to challenge incompetent and corrupt Jonathan?
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by joseph1832(m): 6:44pm On Feb 23, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
Buhari formally left the ANPP and joined the CPC in March 2010.

Buhari is a political prostitute not any didifferent from FFK.
Correction, Buhari left ANPP and formed his own political party CPC from scratch!, he did not join CPC, he formed it, there's a vast difference. Don't distort facts please.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Nobody: 6:48pm On Feb 23, 2015
Matthewbriggs:
Buhari formally left the ANPP and joined the CPC in March 2010.

Buhari is a political prostitute not any didifferent from FFK.
You sure say you get sense?
I have told you severally to remain in Romance section and try hard to win Mr. Nairaland you so crave for instead of making a fool of yourself in politics section,but you wouldn't listen.
See your life?
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by LFJ: 6:51pm On Feb 23, 2015
barcanista:
I have been a critic of the President before now. No one is saying Jonathan is a saint, what we are saying is that whoever is to come to equity should come with clean hands. How do we know how much was stolen by APC governors and their cover-ups without implementing the FOi? Why do they keep blocking FOI requests? Why are indicted officials leading their change train with GMB taking back seat? Why are they intolerant? What are they changing when they haven't changed and are worse themselves?
It is not a secret that in both APC and PDP we have criminals, that is the reality of our current situation. The truth is that, who is a better candidate between Jonathan and Buhari? Regardless of how much we try, the basic fact is that not only that Jonathan protect the criminals, he himself is a grand commander of thieves.
Re: A.P.C The "Transparent" Progressives? by Matthewbriggs(m): 7:17pm On Feb 23, 2015
joseph1832:
Correction, Buhari left ANPP and formed his own political party CPC from scratch!, he did not join CPC, he formed it, there's a vast difference. Don't distort facts please.
What difference does it make.

Leme go with your logic.

He ran in the first party eno work ... He left that party to join hands with another set of people to run again still eno work, now he has joined hands with another set of people who hated him to the bone, people who if it were 1983 they would be cooling in jail now he joined those set of people to form the another party called APC.

What do you call this is it not the height of prostitution. Moving from one platform to the other, or creating a new platform because things did not work out in your former platform. They are both the same man.
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