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coogar:
the element of surprise means there would be no sniper in place. what makes 99% of all robberies successful is the element of surprise. they strike when people least expect it and before police reacts, they are long gone.

Ikwokrikwo:
I don't see how any one could so quickly tell the direction a shot came from no matter how well trained.
They were facing different directions, they had their own sound of gun shots to distract them.
At best they would need to take a look at the guy who was shot before they could know where the shot came from. Where is the time to do that?

Ikwokrikwo:
Did they also practise shooting at an elevation to a target whose exact position they can't tell?
You could see that they were struggling to even keep the gun at a normal level.
A confident sniper in that building would have taken all 3 of them out if the rest didn't escape after the first shot.

I completely agree with you
An american sniper would mark those 3 targets and within 3 seconds take each and every one of them out

Coogar clearly underestimates the power of Snipers
Maybe he should see Captain phillips

BTW why dont we have snipers in Nigeria
Opps i forgot we dont even have good buildings where they can launch their shots

Ikwokrikwo:
Some people actually keep sniper rifles in their homes to take out armed robbers from above.

190theclown:

I completely agree with you
An american sniper would mark those 3 targets and within 3 seconds take each and every one of them out

Coogar clearly underestimates the power of Snipers

Maybe he should see Captain phillips
BTW why dont we have snipers in Nigeria
Opps i forgot we dont even have good buildings where they can launch their shots

coogar:
do you really think the robbers would care about finding their target. everyone else apart from the members of the gang would become the primary targets.

why do you think police negotiate with robbers in saner climes? it's to prevent the number of casualties. these robbers are often high on drugs before commencing an operation like this. they are tense & on the edge - they need the slightest excuse to pull that trigger.

don't try it.....
i am 100% sure the law would hold the sniper fully responsible if things go horribly wrong whereby the robbers start shooting at innocent people. it's a very delicate situation. you just cannot shoot at robbers holding a mass killing machine gun.

coogar:
you watch too many movies.
any good sniper?

Ikwokrikwo:
Some people actually keep sniper rifles in their homes to take out armed robbers from above.

There are some snipers that are so silent when shot that you can take a bird fly across the government house in Enugu all the way from lagos, Trust me some snipers are so trained that they could take out those 3 men with 3 straight shots from 12miles

In my next life, I defo wanna be a sniper trained by the American or Russian forces

Ikwokrikwo:
You are right on it being a very delicate situation.
When I said finding their target, you would agree with me that even the robbers will be happier if they can concenterate on the sniper who actually has the weapon to eliminate them rather than waste their bullets on harmless people, the shooting around would be out of desperation and trial and error.
From what I saw in that video, there weren't really many people around for them to kill.
Most had ran away already. They would have probably destroyed buildings and empty cars.

Khabuqi:
What I was trying to say is, it will be almost impossible for 1 guy to shoot upward with an M60 machine gun.
You need like 2 or 3 guys to operate that gun.

ednut1:
am i d only one who thinks these are ex soldiers court marahalled

JeffreyJamez:
the question we should be asking is,WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GET ACCESS TO SUCH FIREARMS?

coogar:
do you really think the robbers would care about finding their target. everyone else apart from the members of the gang would become the primary targets.

why do you think police negotiate with robbers in saner climes? it's to prevent the number of casualties. these robbers are often high on drugs before commencing an operation like this. they are tense & on the edge - they need the slightest excuse to pull that trigger.

don't try it.....
i am 100% sure the law would hold the sniper fully responsible if things go horribly wrong whereby the robbers start shooting at innocent people. it's a very delicate situation. you just cannot shoot at robbers holding a mass killing machine gun.

190theclown:

There are some snipers that are so silent when shot that you can take a bird fly across the government house in Enugu all the way from lagos, Trust me some snipers are so trained that they could take out those 3 men with 3 straight shots from 12miles

In my next life, I defo wanna be a sniper trained by the American or Russian forces

charles009:
Please don't argue much, you need knowledge.
From experience a sniper is often tagged*the enemy's worst nightmare*
A trained sniper can slow down an infantry from advancement.
One trained sniper; would upset the robbery. He has the vantage point and a weapon that can kill anywhere it touches the body .
In hostage situations, snipers are engaged before negotiation. Once they get a visual they take you out.
Please stop the argument.

coogar:
the range of that gun is about 3km.
nah, there are plenty of targets for them to aim at. there must be people in those surrounding buildings. all they need to do is to find a cover & they would evade the so called sniper. they have the superior firearm!



they don't have to be accurate.....
he has 100 rounds to spare - they would just use the scatter gun approach. aim at the general direction of the sniper & they might get lucky.

whereas the sniper has to be dead accurate for his own safety.

charles009:
Please don't argue much, you need knowledge.
From experience a sniper is often tagged*the enemy's worst nightmare*

A trained sniper can slow down an infantry from advancement.

One trained sniper; would upset the robbery. He has the vantage point and a weapon that can kill anywhere it touches the body .

In hostage situations, snipers are engaged before negotiation. Once they get a visual they take you out.

Please stop the argument.

Ikwokrikwo:
There were a lot of obstructions in the vicinity, cars, buildings etc. At worst people in those buildings would have been injured by crashing glasses and sorts.
They cannot take cover and still shoot sporadically at the same time.

pamcode:
common coogar a sniper should have a silencer attached to his gun so as to make his location difficult besides i doubt if those guys are trained men, they can only shoot

coogar:
you would take one out but if they manage to spot where the bullet came from, you would be taking a first class ticket to lucifer.

the machine gun was belt-fed. it's the sort you would see in urban warfare - it can take out an entire village. apparently, jonathan's visit to lagos caused the shortage of police officers in that area.

according to AIT, it's the first bank robbery in lagos in 7 years.



deadlier robberies have happened in sane climes. it's got nothing to do with civilisation. actually, civilised societies are worse when it comes to this kinda incident.

coogar:
the range of that gun is about 3km.
nah, there are plenty of targets for them to aim at. there must be people in those surrounding buildings. all they need to do is to find a cover & they would evade the so called sniper. they have the superior firearm!



they don't have to be accurate.....
he has 100 rounds to spare - they would just use the scatter gun approach. aim at the general direction of the sniper & they might get lucky.

whereas the sniper has to be dead accurate for his own safety.

coogar:
the job of the sniper is the easiest -
what they are commended for is their limitless perseverance & not their accuracy.

the gun is modified to aid their job. the range is huge; they have a dead accurate telescope to mark their targets. wetin remain?

any of us here can be a sniper. if you don't believe me, grab a copy of call of duty.







at what cost?

Typical coogar

But you know its not just about the gun, its range, snipers could be trained to watch the direction of the wind#
and calculate the movements of their targets, Trust me its not as easy as it looks
Maybe someday i would be able to snipe BABE away from u back into my arms

Khabuqi:
All the sniper needs to do is to take out the guy holding the machine gun. You don't expect the other 2 to pick up the machine gun and start shooting. That only happens in movies.

190theclown:

Typical coogar
But you know its not just about the gun, its range, snipers could be trained to watch the direction of the wind#
and calculate the movements of their targets, Trust me its not as easy as it looks
Maybe someday i would be able to snipe BABE away from u back into my arms

Khabuqi:
All the sniper needs to do is to take out the guy holding the machine gun. You don't expect the other 2 to pick up the machine gun and start shooting. That only happens in movies.

VolvoS60:
Some real rifle enthusiasts here. Some posters here are definitely hardcore.

I had no idea one of the rifles in the video footage was belt fed. All along I thought they were regular Kalashnikovs.

I passed through the area today - the bank is counting its losses and people are trying to get their lives back to normal. Apparently the young girl selling fish was quite well known in the area. The policemen who died were also being mourned by sympathizers.

A newspaper stand near the scene of the crime had some spirited debate on the incident and one troubling conclusion came out after discussion of the videos and pictures: the next set of bandits will probably aim random shots at high buildings to discourage anyone from attempting to record or film.

The other troubling thing from the videos is the number of people running for dear life after the first shots were fired. Although instinct kicks in at a time like this, perhaps it would be better to just lie flat once the bullets start flying. Many, many more people would have been killed if those bandits had aimed at random in the direction of those fleeing the scene.

We have a serious problem on our hands. These guns are everywhere.

3kay945:
The robbers are many i guess, so with the quality of that M60 i dont think they would want to leave it behind.

coogar:
the element of surprise means there would be no sniper in place. what makes 99% of all robberies successful is the element of surprise. they strike when people least expect it and before police reacts, they are long gone.

coogar:
like i have told you, these guys aren't cult boys. if they happen to be mercenaries, they would stroll to the machine gun, examine the wound suffered by the dead robber, assess the direction of the bullet and aim in the general direction.

my $5 says they would get lucky after the 50th catridge has been dispensed.

Khabuqi:
Bros you be armed robber

charles009:
You guys bemuse me.
I worked in Libya with red cross during the uprising. Often times we go to remove the dead and wounded. Even with bolded red crosses on our head.
You can sense the fear when one shot is fired and the American marines guarding the team starts running helter shelter screaming *sniper shot fired*
I was awed so I had to enquire more and I engaged a colonel who told me about the use of a sniper. Though he kept some certain aspects of their training classified.
There is little to know about the trajectory of the weapon that was fired . In three quick succession shots, those robbers would have no time to survive.
Trust me, a sniper is that deadly . That's why not everyone is qualified to be one. It's the riskiest job too.

Once you give away your location, you are dead meat

deskossy:
Nigeria police force is a joke..where is mbu when u need him

Khabuqi:
All the sniper needs to do is to take out the guy holding the machine gun. You don't expect the other 2 to pick up the machine gun and start shooting. That only happens in movies.

3kay945:
The robbers are many i guess, so with the quality of that M60 i dont think they would want to leave it behind.

coogar:
you dey craze

Ikwokrikwo:
That is why I said earlier that the sniper would have had all the advantages: elevation, sight, planning, initiative, and time.