₦airaland Forum

Finally, Tunde Bakare is becoming a man I used to love (no homo!). No more abuses and stuff...NICE!

lonelydora:
But Oga Pastor remember you were part of that environment in 2011. Sai Buhari

Bakare was not with “them“ in 2011. He was with GMB (CPC)& not with Tinubu.
Tinubu‘s ACN candidate in 2011 was Ribadu...

hush15:
Jona's environment might not be good but really, you are trying to get out of one shallow pit and then jump into a much deeper one?

Common, you know that's not wise. After yelling on Jonathan, he eventually listens and tries to measure up. Is it not better than those who don't give a damn whether you shouting or yelling and they will still tell you to go to hell! Nothing you can do. If its a lie, the strike in lagos is one example. Long after Jo had resolve his own side, state is still being adamant and till now, it is do your worst!!

Same in osun. We need to be careful not to jump from frying pan to fire eventhough I don't agree that Jo did nothing. I believe he is doing something but our impatience is about to flush it down the drain. What's another 4yrs if we have been surviving for 30yrs under worst government. 4yrs after, then we are morally justified to access the whole situation and change the direction we going if its still not what it ought to be

Those clamoring for power now are not doin so cos they have the masses in mind, most of them are on a personal vendatta mission and at the end of it again, we upset, complaining and regretting...

I believe what we need is consistency and focus. Helping our institutions and governemnt to be more efficient and effective. Changing government like underwears wouldn't help. Funnyenough, we worry about the politicians but our real problems lies in the civil service. Those that execute government plans and prjects on behalf of the populace and they are people like us. Both at the fed and state levels Once we have the moral mechanism in place, our institutions will be more corruption free.

Slow and steady always wins the race.

Oga, save the story.

PDP is a deeper pit than APC.

APC politicians steal, I concede, but they work.

PDP politicians steal without doing anything.

How on earth can anyone say APC has more crooks than PDP?

openmine:
evil communications CORRUPT good manners....wit such circle of friends around him,d change he intends 2 make won't happen....Dats if he has Nigeria's best interest in mind....but if a man who intends 2 fight corruption is defending a former head of state who almost milked Nigeria dry saying dat person didn't steal any money,I doubt his intent 2 tackle corruption...

GEJ's manners are already corrupted beyond redemption, so he doesn't even appear as an option. For Buhari, the point of the merger is to win. He cannot win with scripture union party, he'll just be among the 14 or so irrelevant parties. BTW, where did Buhari say a former head of state didn't steal?

Jarus:
You can't get a totally clean environment in Nigeria where 98% of politicians are crooks.

They bring structure to the table as we have seen between CPC of 2011 (without the Tinubus of this world) and APC of today (with Tinubu and co).

When the generally-regarded-as-clean Gani Fawehinmi refused to associate with the crooks by contesting under his own clean party, NCP, in 2003, how many votes did he get?

It leaves us with the character of the candidate again where Buhari stands taller than GEJ.

Bros you have said it all.

Pastor Bakare also said he believes in contact without contamination. I wish Gani had joined forces with a stronger party then. Well, good thing Buhari has done that.

Tinubu does not have a sterling reputation but his environment is still a billion times better than GEJ's.

He created a lot of points here........

Yes it is stil President GEJ till 2019***

osigiepurr:
Hey boy, u talk too much......how old were u when GMB was d Head of State?.....From my finds, i discovered many idle people dat rants most here on nairaland does not even have their PVCs intact.....If i should cross-examine u critically from ur manners and attitudes , u may belong to d categories of people waiting for dia JAMB results or waiting to write WAEC/NECO.....U are busy opening ur God forsaken mouth calling an enlightened and one-time former head of state illiterate, boy stop committing fallacy of ignorantio ellenchi at ur ripe age ......what a pity especially in a country of ours where we have so many educated illiterates everywhere claiming to know and they know nothing....Please boy, change ur orientation towards past leaders for national peace.....i rest my case

An enlightened man that couldn't fill out INEC form properly?.

An enlightened man without any certificates to prove his education?.

Tell it to the mountains!.

smartg:
Buhari may be the right man, but in the wrong party.

Can you help us name the right party?

Jarus:
It leaves us with the character of the candidate again where Buhari stands taller than GEJ.

Taller for an old soldier who ACCUSED our army of killing Boko Haram terrorists and burning their houses instead of granting them amnesty. Yet would not go to Saudi Arabia to negotiate that amnesty when the chance came up

Taller for a man who stole $2.8 billion as petroleum federal commissioner and N45 billion as PTF Chairman while declaring Abacha did not steal


The old pension has found his real environment after pretending for so long.

Shikena!
Lobatan!!
Finito!!!

Omooba77:


You may not believe this,in as much as I respect your personality,I was around in 1984-85,so I can tell you we cant separate the environment from the man,just as you cant separate Owode Market from Offa.GEJ may not be perfect,but he is still the better choice.I hope you noticed what happened yesterday at the press briefing,when someone asked about wether he will apologise to people,Ameachi solved him away without allowing him to answer.This is the beauty of democracy,vote for your choice and I mine as for me GEJ all the way,God bless you sir.

But we are not ignorant of Abati, NOI, Patience, Okupe etc 'solving President Jonathan away' for the past six years. He is barely consulted on National issues like postponing election and he rarely gives a damn except when told to.

I dnt trust any nigerian politician...they ar all criminals

IVORY2009:
Nice statement from Bakare .T, to me Buhari has a very good track record, I will always choose him any time any day, but the people he sorrounds himself with, take away Tinubu, I would vote Buhari.

When he didn't have Tinubus in 2011, how did he perform?

Guys, let's be honest and not pretend that anyone can do away with these guys.

Even GEJ himself used Tinubu in 2011.

So where is the alternative?

talktimi:
I trust Buhari (small) but I don't trust his violent antecedents and I certainly don't trust the thieving rogues around him that he calls his friends.

You've never trusted Buhari even he was alone in the CPC. So drop your cry that you don't trust him because of those he surrounds himself with. Why do you've problem with getting close to, say, Tinubu, but see no problem with Jonathan being with Bode George? The problem with you PDP supporters is hypocricy, getting concerned with things that are not your business and self deceit. On Sunday Okupe was complaining why the APC didn't elect Atiku or Kwankwoso in their primary election.

Image123:
But we are not ignorant of Abati, NOI, Patience, Okupe etc 'solving President Jonathan away' for the past six years. He is barely consulted on National issues like postponing election and he rarely gives a damn except when told to.

GEJ has not spent up to 6 years; check the list in APC, Ghali Naaba just joined yesterday, so APC na same PDP men that has been in power for close to 16 years. Let us have new blood, voting Buhari is recycling same old people.

anonimi:
Taller for an old soldier who ACCUSED our army of killing Boko Haram terrorists and burning their houses instead of granting them amnesty. Yet would not go to Saudi Arabia to negotiate that amnesty when the chance came up

Taller for a man who stole $2.8 billion as petroleum federal commissioner and N45 billion as PTF Chairman while declaring Abacha did not steal


The old pension has found his real environment after pretending for so long.

Shikena!
Lobatan!!
Finito!!!

Thank you jare, we are too sentimental, it was same Buhari that said Boko Haram should be given amnesty, government set up Turaki and Borno government swindled them. Only God knows the truth. As for me and my family our votes are for GEJ.

lonelydora:
But Oga Pastor remember you were part of that environment in 2011. Sai Buhari

It's a lie. General Buhari invited him to be his running mate in 2011. Then, GMB was still in Chicago, a party he founded. Attempt to merge with APC failed because Tunde Bakare refused to accept the corrupt proposal from Tinubu. Remember Odumakin who was GMB spokesman in 2011 said similar thing. He said he told GMB he wouldn't be able to work for him this time around because of the questionable characters around him.

anonimi:
Taller for an old soldier who ACCUSED our army of killing Boko Haram terrorists and burning their houses instead of granting them amnesty. Yet would not go to Saudi Arabia to negotiate that amnesty when the chance came up

Taller for a man who stole $2.8 billion as petroleum federal commissioner and N45 billion as PTF Chairman while declaring Abacha did not steal


The old pension has found his real environment after pretending for so long.

Shikena!
Lobatan!!
Finito!!!

All these propaganda don dey stale oh. Why praise GEJ who actually granted boko haram amnesty and called them his siblings, then criticise a man who only allegedly said?

Omooba77:
GEJ has not spent up to 6 years; check the list in APC, Ghali Naaba just joined yesterday, so APC na same PDP men that has been in power for close to 16 years. Let us have new blood, voting Buhari is recycling same old people.

You left the issue addressed about 'solving people away'. Is GEJ the new blood?

kunlesehan:
These men and their diplomatic manner of speech.
You TRUST yet you DOUBT.

Watz dis man sayin? Watz diplomatic about dt? He made it clear who he trusts and who he doubts. Isnt dt clear enof? USE OF ENGLISH MADE EASY

Omooba77:
Thank you jare, we are too sentimental, it was same Buhari that said Boko Haram should be given amnesty, government set up Turaki and Borno government swindled them. Only God knows the truth. As for me and my family our votes are for GEJ.

Action speaks louder than voice na. If we criticise Buhari voice on amnesty, what should we do to President Jonathan's action on amnesty?

OrlandoOwoh:
You've never trusted Buhari even he was alone in the CPC. So drop your cry that you don't trust him because of those he surrounds himself with. Why do you've problem with getting close to, say, Tinubu, but see no problem with Jonathan being with Bode George? The problem with you PDP supporters is hypocricy, getting concerned with things that are not your business and self deceit. On Sunday Okupe was complaining why the APC didn't elect Atiku or Kwankwoso in their primary election.

I had a better candidate in 2011 (Babangida) since he didn't contest again, there was no need for me to vote again meanwhile your boy Buhari enmeshes himself in a hyper contradiction by claiming he wants to fight corruption and yet hanging out with hopelessly corrupt individuals who would undoubtedly have a major (corrupt) say in his government if Buhari should win the elections. Next, I don't like it when people insult my intelligence by saying in a country of 170 million people, Buhari is the only person who can rule us. That is sheer stüpidity

Ps ; Buhari still hasn't apologized for the post election violence of 2011 which were sparked by his utterances. It is on record that CPC agents went round police stations in flash point areas to effect the release of those arrested in connection with the violence and the CPC openly supported the killing of youth corp members saying they were IT experts hired by the PDP. I don't like callous people

Princephelar:
Watz dis man sayin? Watz diplomatic about dt? He made it clear who he trusts and who he doubts. Isnt dt clear enof? USE OF ENGLISH MADE EASY

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Thanks bro. I admire ur maturity.
You made ur points clear and without insults.

Both the saints and devils in a political party are instrumental to winning an election, Buhari knows his onions well, hence will do the right thing after victory.

This statement just instigated another paradigm shift on the tilting of this elections towards Jonathan's favour and Buhari's loss.......it is most certain that the Christian lot in the North will cast most of their votes for Goodluck Ebele Jonathan. Thank you Pastor Tunde Bakare on this one, even with a fellow Pastor as Buhari's running mate........the game is over for APC!

Image123:
GEJ's manners are already corrupted beyond redemption, so he doesn't even appear as an option. For Buhari, the point of the merger is to win. He cannot win with scripture union party, he'll just be among the 14 or so irrelevant parties. BTW, where did Buhari say a former head of state didn't steal?

well am all 4 facts 2 prove dat Gej is corrupt beyond redemption..... not newspaper speculations or people's perceptions about someone....he may no be d best and he may have made sum unavoidable mistakes in d past...but I choose him over an acclaimed saint who surrounds himself wit corrupt financiers...its only a matter of time before he starts doing wat dey are doing...
as for d statement credited 2 buhari dat abacha did not steal any money,let Google b ur friend....lol

olas24u:
That was a political statement and you should have understood it as a political statement .He his now a politician and politicians are not rigid people.

so because its a buhari issue its now a political statement...lol
don't u know dat abacha stealing also implicates buhari since he was part of abacha's cabinet.... Dats y he said dat abacha did steal any money....political statement indeed....Lol...u make me laff

openmine:
Bakare wasn't talking about PDP....neither was he comparing APC 2 PDP.....he was referring 2 d personality of buhari....not Gej...

And APc remains the only viable alternative to PDP, so when he tries to devalue them, what he is doing indirectly is giving PDP the other hand.. He should stop sitting on the fence.

nortcentrallord:
All military men are not evil. Compare the military days of D.Mark and buhari.
Compare the after military life of Buhari and D.Mark and be truthfull to yourself except if you don't know their history.

If he has truly changed, he Will debate, he will present his certificate but because he hasn't changed, he is still the same man who feels he can not be accountable to anyone hence the King and his subject method of rule.

Let me draw your attention to something quite different but inter related to this. Buhari has changed and he wants to rule right? There has been an incident going on in Benue State for quite some time now. The Huasa Fulani's have over some years now coordinated assaults on the Benue people in Benue state killing women and children and most of them predominantly farmers. Buhari is a Hausa fulani man and an elder statesman amongst his people. Has he for once made a comment about that ever since this evil has been going on? Candid answer please.

So Buhari was evil? Do you even know what David did during his military days to know if he wasn't evil? Mind you, he was a military governor under the same Buhari.. Go and check his stories and see how "good" he was before you tag him good or bad.

He was among those who plotted the coup that removed Buhari. Don't try to bring in useless ethnic coloration into this.. If any group is disrupting the peace of any state, its the job of the government in power to bring law and order to such states so stop this useless regional rubbish you intend to color this discussion with.

fact idea

gladpresh:
How wil dis stop GEJ frm breaking a record come 28th

You guys keep claiming GEJ will win, break record, but GEJ himself is dead scared, even to the extent of not wanting election to hold. They have called for elections postponement for the second time. Watch out for jega's broadcast

GEJ will win, a sad fact

openmine:
so because its a buhari issue its now a political statement...lol
don't u know dat abacha stealing also implicates buhari since he was part of abacha's cabinet.... Dats y he said dat abacha did steal any money....political statement indeed....Lol...u make me laff

He was a former PTF chairman and he manage is office efficiently well and built infrastructures such as roads in many parts of Nigeria.In politics you cannot be rigid , when you are rigid you cannot win political support , politicians are very flexible,social , and tricky.some are dumb but use thuggery and intimidation to get their way . so he had to make that statement as at that time for political purpose,because it was only because Abacha was dead that is why we had a ll this information what about the once that are living with us .