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Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by ndcide(m): 11:08am On Mar 18, 2015
Jarus:
Oga, save the story.

PDP is a deeper pit than APC.

APC politicians steal, I concede, but they work.

PDP politicians steal without doing anything.

How on earth can anyone say APC has more crooks than PDP?
I'd like you to tell us honestly about the work of APC in your home state of kwara.

at least we know bukola and Ahmed are of the APC.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by mrrock: 11:11am On Mar 18, 2015
freshcvv:
Another reason why I should ask you again.

Are you educated?

Do you know the difference between statement of result and a certificate?

Please don't type again, you are exposing yourself the more as someone who has never seen or received any of the 2 before.

Chai.... Lol
Now that you know his statement of result is fake, will his certificates be original?.

Of course your low IQ or total blindness will not allow you answer this simple question objectively. Don't forget Buhari is banking on illiterates like you to win this election.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by tohero(m): 11:11am On Mar 18, 2015
Sometimes, it helps to be among the bad gang to gain influence.









Neither am I saying APC is BAD nor GOOD
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by freshcvv(m): 11:22am On Mar 18, 2015
mrrock:
Now that you know his statement of result is fake, will his certificates be original?.

Of course your low IQ or total blindness will not allow you answer this simple question objectively. Don't forget Buhari is banking on illiterates like you to win this election.
You know his statement of result is fake? Because you went to his secondary school and they said its fake or that Cambridge told you he never wrote the said exam?

I repeat again.. Are you educated? Ever been to school? Ever completed secondary school? If you have done any of these, then I weep for your school and Nigerian education in your era.

How do you know a fake reissued statement of result?

Infact, when did some Nigerians become this dull?

Its easy to spot the illiterate here..pathetic!
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by talktimi(m): 11:23am On Mar 18, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
How about your boy, Jonathan that wants to fight corruption with modern technology but is afraid of smart card readers?
I'm going to vote 2019 when Hamza al Mustapha would have been convinced to contest for presidency. PVC reader is a good idea no doubt but there are certain security and compromising issues though I can't say anything more than this for now
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m):
olas24u:
why are you trying to include Buhari, he had is own designation in which he performed so well.i was trying to tell you that you cannot be against the west and still keep money in their banks ,it may also be a propaganda because he was dead.The Man rejected IMF loans for Nigeria.And i dont think they cant even return any more because it will affect their economy ,so it may be invisible money .Brother think and dont sink the news just like that into you .You may still be correct but i doubt ,because we know the Nigerian budget as at that time and he ruled for 5 years. Buhari constructed classrooms,schools roads and many more all over Nigeria
let's say I believe dat he constructed schools and roads according 2 u,did he get d money from d skies?
was it not tru him dat monies passed left,right and centre?
was his office not where d monies pass tru...?
no fund passes tru ptf with out his knowledge.. Dats d truth!
so spare me d 'yan' dat ur "glorified saint" buhari is totally free from blame...
can he swear dat during his time in office as ptf chairman dat he didn't know or had any knowledge of d monies dat were going out of d country?

in a developed country,buhari sud be cooling off in a federal prison for years...how can he claim he had no knowledge of d transactions dat abacha or his sons were making? dat talk even makes him guilty of complicity...smh

even obasanjo during d probing on ptf in 1999,blamed d office of buhari 4 mismanagement of funds...

d earlier u realise d kind of leaders we had den,d more u realise dat u have probably been deceived by deir sweet talk and appearance.... nothing is wat it seems my friend..

as 4 d west being against abacha,i cant but laugh at such conclusions...Dats u placing ur own analogy...d west have shown us dat abacha stole money and abacha's family members Neva at any point deny it...
d great Achebe once said dat "unless d lion create deir own history,d history of d hunt will always belong 2 d hunter"....can u prove wit facts dat abacha did not loot our treasury?
can d abacha family prove dat dey didnt loot monies?
until u answer dese questions wit facts,dont tink of bringing in d west in Dis issue....smh

Infact d latest swiss monies dat was sent 2 Nigeria was as a result of a pact made BTW d federal government and d abacha family....dey were about 2 b convicted and sentenced b4 dey made an agreement dat dey will give up d looted monies in swiss in order 4 d federal government 2 drop d case against dem...
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by mrrock: 11:32am On Mar 18, 2015
freshcvv:
You know his statement of result is fake? Because you went to his secondary school and they said its fake or that Cambridge told you he never wrote the said exam?

I repeat again.. Are you educated? Ever been to school? Ever completed secondary school? If you have done any of these, then I weep for your school and Nigerian education in your era.

How do you know a fake reissued statement of result?

Infact, when did some Nigerians become this dull?

Its easy to spot the illiterate here..pathetic!
As you know the Katrina result was put through scan and tests and it proved to be a fake. But, wait. Are you people now denying the Katsina result?.

Well, there's no results at Cambridge either!. Buhari just returned from London without any!
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by topsonfash: 11:42am On Mar 18, 2015
mrrock, u are correct but the only thing i will not agree with is calling Buhari an illiterate; for someone to rise to the post of major general in the millinery goes beyond carrying gun, he has pass through some tough academic training.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by fresh15: 11:49am On Mar 18, 2015
He is just being diplomatic.Personally,I don't trust Buhari because I know that he cannot do well as president and those around him are even more evil.vote GEJ
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by freshcvv(m): 11:57am On Mar 18, 2015
mrrock:
As you know the Katrina result was put through scan and tests and it proved to be a fake. But, wait. Are you people now denying the Katsina result?.

Well, there's no results at Cambridge either!. Buhari just returned from London without any!
Oh lord God..chai.. Put through scan? You mean you can scan a result? Why scan a result to know if its fake or not when you can just verify with the said school or the exam body for his records?

Is Kastina state school the exam body? Is your secondary the exam body that conducted your Waec for you or any other one you wrote?

Gosh..I feel your low IQ is likely to affect me if I continue with you. How low can you go?
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by musicwriter(m):
topsonfash:
mrrock, u are correct but the only thing i will not agree with is calling Buhari an illiterate; for someone to rise to the post of major general in the millinery goes beyond carrying gun, he has pass through some tough academic training.
My brother, that's where you people are getting it wrong. We that care about the truth decided to dig into this allegations. And the truth will shock you.

The truth is; Buhari enrolled into the Nigerian military with "a written note" from his school principal assuring the military that he (Buhari) have the potential to pass English and Mathematics. Based on this guaranty by the school principal Buhari was enrolled into the military. So, Buhari never actually take the exams. Until democracy returned to Nigeria, the north believed they are "born to rule" and that educational qualifications were for people from other parts of Nigeria.

Indeed, the Nigerian military confirmed they do have a copy of the said note. This note is the only thing on file as regards Buhari's qualification.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by IVORY2009(m): 12:03pm On Mar 18, 2015
Jarus:
When he didn't have Tinubus in 2011, how did he perform?

Guys, let's be honest and not pretend that anyone can do away with these guys.

Even GEJ himself used Tinubu in 2011.

So where is the alternative?
That is the more reason, while I started by saying, Buhari is the most crediable among all the candidates so far so good, but he is surrounded by corrupt individuals like Tinubu and co, dat is where our democracy comes into play, even the GEJ is not left out, the man might have a good heart, but he surroundes himself with politicians with questionable character.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by mrrock: 12:10pm On Mar 18, 2015
freshcvv:
Oh lord God..chai.. Put through scan? You mean you can scan a result? Why scan a result to know if its fake or not when you can just verify with the said school or the exam body for his records?

Is Kastina state school the exam body? Is your secondary the exam body that conducted your Waec for you or any other one you wrote?

Gosh..I feel your low IQ is likely to affect me if I continue with you. How low can you go?
You must be living in a cave!.

Why do you think super markets and stores pass money through the mercury light?.

The Katsina statement was tested with modern technology and it proved to be a FAKE!
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by mrrock: 12:14pm On Mar 18, 2015
@topsonfash. If you care for the truth, below is a perfect answer for you.

musicwriter:
My brother, that's where you people are getting it wrong. We that care about the truth decided to dig into this allegations. And the truth will shock you.

The truth is; Buhari enrolled into the Nigerian military with "a written note" from his school principal assuring the military that he (Buhari) have the potential to pass English and Mathematics. Based on this guaranty by the school principal Buhari was enrolled into the military. So, Buhari never actually take the exams. Until democracy returned to Nigeria, the north believed they are born to rule and that educational qualifications were for people from other parts of Nigeria.

Indeed, the Nigerian military confirmed they do have a copy of the said note. This note is the only thing on file as regards Buhari's qualification.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Sweetlemon(f): 12:20pm On Mar 18, 2015
Is it the people around Jonathan that are better?

Seems this man is just jealous of Osinbanjo...........
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by freshcvv(m): 12:22pm On Mar 18, 2015
mrrock:
You must be living in a cave!.

Why do you think super markets and stores pass money through the mercury light?.

The Katsina statement was tested with modern technology and it proved to be a FAKE!
Are you normal?

Lol

Why do you have to scan a piece of paper that has records with the school when you can just walk in and check the records with Cambridge and the school the exam was conducted?

Are you normal at all or you are joking?

Gosh.. I am ashamed for you.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by olas24u(f): 12:24pm On Mar 18, 2015
openmine:
let's say I believe dat he constructed schools and roads according 2 u,did he get d money from d skies?
was it not tru him dat monies passed left,right and centre?
was his office not where d monies pass tru...?
no fund passes tru ptf with out his knowledge.. Dats d truth!
so spare me d 'yan' dat ur "glorified saint" buhari is totally free from blame...
can he swear dat during his time in office as ptf chairman dat he didn't know or had any knowledge of d monies dat were going out of d country?

in a developed country,buhari sud be cooling off in a federal prison for years...how can he claim he had no knowledge of d transactions dat abacha or his sons were making? dat talk even makes him guilty of complicity...smh

even obasanjo during d probing on ptf in 1999,blamed d office of buhari 4 mismanagement of funds...

d earlier u realise d kind of leaders we had den,d more u realise dat u have probably been deceived by deir sweet talk and appearance.... nothing is wat it seems my friend..

as 4 d west being against abacha,i cant but laugh at such conclusions...Dats u placing ur own analogy...d west have shown us dat abacha stole money and abacha's family members Neva at any point deny it...
d great Achebe once said dat "unless d lion create deir own history,d history of d hunt will always belong 2 d hunter"....can u prove wit facts dat abacha did not loot our treasury?
can d abacha family prove dat dey didnt loot monies?
until u answer dese questions wit facts,dont tink of bringing in d west in Dis issue....smh

Infact d latest swiss monies dat was sent 2 Nigeria was as a result of a pact made BTW d federal government and d abacha family....dey were about 2 b convicted and sentenced b4 dey made an agreement dat dey will give up d looted monies in swiss in order 4 d federal government 2 drop d case against dem...
well you dont want to accept that Abacha was set up by OBJ just to discredit him ,because he dealt with him,all those figures are invisible figures .Its was a strategy to loot money by blaming all missing money on Abacha. If he did not die nothing of such would have happened .If you have all your evidence against Buhari you cant present them in court.The fact that you are an honest Nigerian does not mean you will not have friends and work with other people .PTF was an agency of government and you cannot rule out anything since the people working in PTF are a product of Nigerian society .
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by mrrock: 12:36pm On Mar 18, 2015
freshcvv:
Are you normal?

Lol

Why do you have to scan a piece of paper that has records with the school when you can just walk in and check the records with Cambridge and the school the exam was conducted?

Are you normal at all or you are joking?

Gosh.. I am ashamed for you.
While I'm aware you're very dumb by what you're typing, but I'll continue to educate you for the sake of onlookers.

For your information, a third party cannot request for the results of someone else. Only Buhari can ask for his results from the examiners (Cambridge). But, because he have no results over there, he cannot ask for it.
Your mental state is very pathetic and I give up on you. See you later.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Jarus(m): 1:11pm On Mar 18, 2015
ndcide:
I'd like you to tell us honestly about the work of APC in your home state of kwara.

at least we know bukola and Ahmed are of the APC.
APC is a failure in Kwara, I admit.

But my point is, if out of 14 governors, APC has 7 widely acknowledged performers (Aregbesola, Fashola, Ajimobi, Amosun, Oshiomole, Amaechi Kwankwaso), that's 50%; while out of 21, PDP can only boast of 3 (Akpabio, Chime and Sule Lamido), that roughly 15%.

Compare and contrast.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Omooba77: 1:20pm On Mar 18, 2015
Jarus:
APC is a failure in Kwara, I admit.

But my point is, if out of 14 governors, APC has 7 widely acknowledged performers (Aregbesola, Fashola, Ajimobi, Amosun, Oshiomole, Amaechi Kwankwaso), that's 50%; while out of 21, PDP can only boast of 3 (Akpabio, Chime and Sule Lamido), that roughly 15%.

Compare and contrast.
God bless you and thanks alot for this admittance;Buhari is old and all the hawks around him will not allow, if someone like Tunde Idiagbon is among them , no problem, but with ALL PDP Decampees, I'm sorry GEJ is hundred times better. Despite Offa now being APC; just from Erinle to Offa to Ajase is the worst road after Ikirun.Please go to Rivers and see what new thing Ameachi has done since he joined "Progressives".We may not be on the same page, but we all want the best for our Great Country and God bless our Father's land.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by ndcide(m): 1:34pm On Mar 18, 2015
Jarus:
APC is a failure in Kwara, I admit.

But my point is, if out of 14 governors, APC has 7 widely acknowledged performers (Aregbesola, Fashola, Ajimobi, Amosun, Oshiomole, Amaechi Kwankwaso), that's 50%; while out of 21, PDP can only boast of 3 (Akpabio, Chime and Sule Lamido), that roughly 15%.

Compare and contrast.
If you still call Aregbe a performer then something is really wrong. I interacted with a friend from oshogbo lately and he wasn't saying anything good about him. it may interest you to know that this friend of mine voted for Aregbe.

for those ex PDP governors you named, their impact was felt when they were in PDP and their exit was for politics and not for developmental purposes.


For those other governors of Edo, Oyo & Ogun. You people are just hyping them. I've been to their States and I see lots of developmental deficit. There's no need for too much exaggeration. I've analyzed them sector by sector and I'm not impressed. You people do so because of political interest.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Olaone1: 4:18pm On Mar 18, 2015
Ajimobi and "good performance" are parallel lines. He is that useless!

Any NLander who thinks otherwise is a closet APC member undecided undecided
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by freshcvv(m): 5:00pm On Mar 18, 2015
mrrock:
While I'm aware you're very dumb by what you're typing, but I'll continue to educate you for the sake of onlookers.

For your information, a third party cannot request for the results of someone else. Only Buhari can ask for his results from the examiners (Cambridge). But, because he have no results over there, he cannot ask for it.
Your mental state is very pathetic and I give up on you. See you later.
I almost fell low to your level lol..enjoy your folly.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by osigiepurr(m): 5:06pm On Mar 18, 2015
mrrock:
You must be living on the moon not to know there are already many legal suits against Buhari.

For your information moon man, many legal suits are already up against Buhari in different courts all over the country. You know what?. Your messiah have not the courage to answer any of the court summons because he have no certificates to show!. Your messiah enrolled into the Nigerian military illegally and will never be able to face scrutiny at the court. Buhari is a fraud!.
Kids like u are just like arrogant bulldogs dat barks, but can't bite......its unfortunate dat kids of types are being brainwashed with falsification of information inorder to deceive u guys.......if cases are in court, u should wait till d court decides and stop ur malicious acts of propagating false information of no result.......most people dat are even singing d chorus of 'no result' are guilty of d offence, because they either don't have their WAEC results at hand or went through special exam centers by proxy to pass their exams.....
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Nobody: 6:01pm On Mar 18, 2015
dvee2:
You guys keep claiming GEJ will win, break record, but GEJ himself is dead scared, even to the extent of not wanting election to hold. They have called for elections postponement for the second time. Watch out for jega's broadcast
lol...ah jst dey folo warm d man na cheesy tho ah knw he's kinda hopeless abt d d-day, bt sha, GOD knws best.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:10pm On Mar 18, 2015
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:13pm On Mar 18, 2015
openmine:
well am all 4 facts 2 prove dat Gej is corrupt beyond redemption..... not newspaper speculations or people's perceptions about someone....he may no be d best and he may have made sum unavoidable mistakes in d past...but I choose him over an acclaimed saint who surrounds himself wit corrupt financiers...its only a matter of time before he starts doing wat dey are doing...
as for d statement credited 2 buhari dat abacha did not steal any money,let Google b ur friend....lol
Please, be my friend and show me where Buhari said that Abacha did not steal. Thanks.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:18pm On Mar 18, 2015
openmine:
Neva will APC b a viable option 2 PDP..talk about oda parties but not apc...APC is made of up of at most 80% of former PDP members...and most of dem also have criminal cases wit efcc....how does a corrupt politician fight corruption....is it possible?
as 4 Bakare,he was only stating d obvious about d deceptive union of APC....unfortunately buhari is entangled in deir web of deceit....even if he finally gets 2 aso rock which I doubt,he will become an obvious "puppet" 4 d APC "cartels" who will milk Dis country dry...! smh
Then you should have no problem since APC is 80%pdp to you. Anyone of them will be fine, right?
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 6:25pm On Mar 18, 2015
Image123:
Please, be my friend and show me where Buhari said that Abacha did not steal. Thanks.
Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, who ruled Nigeria between 1983 and 1985, and his successor, Gen. Ibrahim Babangida, gave Abacha the clean bill in Kano yesterday after the rememberance prayers marking 10 years of the death of Abacha, who ruled between 1993 and 1998.

Abacha was accused of stealing nearly £5 billion while in office, out of which over $1 billion has reportedly been recovered from various sources around the world.

But Babangida, who described Abacha as a “courageous, loyal and honest military head of state who stood for the unity and development of the country during his years in government”, has dismissed the allegations.

He said the looting allegations against Abacha were unfounded and baseless, stressing that “it is not true that he looted public treasury. I knew who Abacha was because I was close to him”.

Babangida said: “Abacha was a courageous person who stood firmly in handling the affairs of the country during his regime.”

He added that the regime of Abacha brought positive changes in the country which should have been emulated.

He said 10 years after the death of Abacha, his contributions to the nation’s economy remain indelible.

“There is no doubt, during his administration as head of state, Abacha contributed his best to the nation’s economy which we are still enjoying,” he said.

Babangida’s new position however contrasts with what he told Newswatch magazine in July 2000.

He had said: “The revelations [on Abacha’s loot] surprised me. I am surprised, because I didn't know.”

He had also explained that Abacha's death brought "relative stability", adding that "it gives us, oh well, let's see, there is hope after all".

Babangida, in that interview, also blamed the society for allowing Abacha to grow into the dictator he became.

"I feel bad that society failed to realise that they have a duty to protect whatever values they hold dear to their hearts as far as this country is concerned. At any rate, there are people I like and do respect those who stood against the regime, who are not military officers but civilians who are able to speak out. They didn't mince words and if their views had been heard, he wouldn't have [done enough harm]," he had said in response to a question.

Buhari, in his own comments yesterday, described the allegations of looting against Abacha as “baseless”, because according to him, “ten years after Abacha, those allegations remain unproven because of lack of facts”.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200806090008.html
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:26pm On Mar 18, 2015
openmine:
how did u know dat he managed his office well...were u dere?
if abacha hadn't kicked d bucket wud any one know how much he gathered 2 foreign countries....
being a former ptf chairman makes him culpable because Dats where all d money was.....is he saying dat he had no single information about d numerous cash moving in and out of d country?
is he saying he had no single records of d transactions dat were made during abacha's tenure?
as I talk 2 u d swiss bank has just released part of d monies dat abacha looted and sum1 is telling me abacha Neva stole any money simply because he wants 2 cover up his own tracks..just like u said,abacha's sins where revealed wen he died....but dats not d point....d point is did he or did he not loot d nation's treasury under buhari's watch?
PTF was not where all the money was, that is an ignorant statement. Kindly do your research or ask around. And your logic makes no sense. It's like picking up any top management staff in CBN or nnpc and accusing him or her of theft because he works where all the money is.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:30pm On Mar 18, 2015
anonimi:
Buhari is one of the WORSTEST thieves to ever rule us but knows how to PRETEND like a charmaeleon.
QED!!!




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