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Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:43pm On Mar 18, 2015
openmine:
Gen. Muhammadu Buhari, who ruled Nigeria between 1983 and 1985, and his successor, Gen. Ibrahim Babangida, gave Abacha the clean bill in Kano yesterday after the rememberance prayers marking 10 years of the death of Abacha, who ruled between 1993 and 1998.

Abacha was accused of stealing nearly £5 billion while in office, out of which over $1 billion has reportedly been recovered from various sources around the world.

But Babangida, who described Abacha as a “courageous, loyal and honest military head of state who stood for the unity and development of the country during his years in government”, has dismissed the allegations.

He said the looting allegations against Abacha were unfounded and baseless, stressing that “it is not true that he looted public treasury. I knew who Abacha was because I was close to him”.

Babangida said: “Abacha was a courageous person who stood firmly in handling the affairs of the country during his regime.”

He added that the regime of Abacha brought positive changes in the country which should have been emulated.

He said 10 years after the death of Abacha, his contributions to the nation’s economy remain indelible.

“There is no doubt, during his administration as head of state, Abacha contributed his best to the nation’s economy which we are still enjoying,” he said.

Babangida’s new position however contrasts with what he told Newswatch magazine in July 2000.

He had said: “The revelations [on Abacha’s loot] surprised me. I am surprised, because I didn't know.”

He had also explained that Abacha's death brought "relative stability", adding that "it gives us, oh well, let's see, there is hope after all".

Babangida, in that interview, also blamed the society for allowing Abacha to grow into the dictator he became.

"I feel bad that society failed to realise that they have a duty to protect whatever values they hold dear to their hearts as far as this country is concerned. At any rate, there are people I like and do respect those who stood against the regime, who are not military officers but civilians who are able to speak out. They didn't mince words and if their views had been heard, he wouldn't have [done enough harm]," he had said in response to a question.

Buhari, in his own comments yesterday, described the allegations of looting against Abacha as “baseless”, because according to him, “ten years after Abacha, those allegations remain unproven because of lack of facts”.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200806090008.html
Oh, you take everything you read in the papers seriously? Well i have video proof where Buhari clearly referred to Abachas administration as that of wanton corruption. I believe the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gAr77wWNms&itct=CDgQpDAYASITCP_j04q5ssQCFUPHcAodHBgAjVIdRkcgYm9rbyBoYXJhbSBCdWhhcmkgY2hhbm5lbHM%3D&gl=NG&client=mv-google&hl=en
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by chamboy(m): 6:58pm On Mar 18, 2015
In as much, that his Environment is not trusted by Few but we see people around him Respect him.. That d Main Thing.. Jesus Disciples weren't like Jesus buh because of the Respect they have for Jesus they acted like him
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 7:39pm On Mar 18, 2015
olas24u:
well you dont want to accept that Abacha was set up by OBJ just to discredit him ,because he dealt with him,all those figures are invisible figures .Its was a strategy to loot money by blaming all missing money on Abacha. If he did not die nothing of such would have happened .If you have all your evidence against Buhari you cant present them in court.The fact that you are an honest Nigerian does not mean you will not have friends and work with other people .PTF was an agency of government and you cannot rule out anything since the people working in PTF are a product of Nigerian society .
please stop shifting d goal post..accept it dat abacha stole our treasury dry and for once admit it dat u had it all wrong....
u r just making baseless speculation without facts....first u said d west were responsible for making abacha look bad because he was military now u r now blaming obasanjo...how far can u go by defending a man apparently guilty of looting nigeria dry....even his family members know dat abacha looted..u r d only one who claims dat he was setup by obasanjo without evidence?... grin grin grin grin

Now to ur glorified "corruption activist" buhari,he puts himself up as a perfect man without blemish....if u know wat it is 2 hold a public office,u will know d responsibilities....as ptf chairman,he had knowledge of ALL the transactions made by abacha or his sons....nothing passed by him without him being informed....how can u be in charge of an office and yet u dont know wat is happeningi dat office....
if u were in charge of a department in a company and there was a mishandling of funds by ur department,who do u tink will be held responsible?
...its all about taking responsibilities and accepting u r wrong and not defend sum1 because u want 2 cover up ur tracks...dats wat buhari did! sad sad

One tin i have noticed,wen it seems dat a person is has been found to be guilty with facts,is dat ur likes resort 2 asking dat such cases be taken to court... grin grin
...And pls i dont wish for him to be in prison with wat i know about him(he is now aged) but he sud not come and claim 2 be mr righteous or saint micheal wit no skeleton in his wardrope!
he claims he wants 2 fight corruption and yet he surrounds him self with people of questionable characters...how do u prosecute d same people who gave u a platform 2 b president with deir looted funds...?

If indeed he wanted 2 end corruption like he always preaches,he sud have remained in CPC and contest dis year's election....there are atleast some credible individuals with some little conscience not APC....not a party filled with corrupt politicians battle to ensure dat APC is brought into power so dat d looting can continue from where they started...dat according 2 someone on nairaland is called LOOT-OCRACY grin grin grin grin
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 7:47pm On Mar 18, 2015
Image123:
Oh, you take everything you read in the papers seriously? Well i have video proof where Buhari clearly referred to Abachas administration as that of wanton corruption. I believe the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gAr77wWNms&itct=CDgQpDAYASITCP_j04q5ssQCFUPHcAodHBgAjVIdRkcgYm9rbyBoYXJhbSBCdWhhcmkgY2hhbm5lbHM%3D&gl=NG&client=mv-google&hl=en
personally i believe wat Thisdaylive put up...but dat was many years ago....Unfortunately,most of d papers have taken down any incriminating evidence against buhari but d fact remains dat he said so 2 cover up his tracks.....and besides,u do know very well dat every thing can be altered including a video....like it or not,buhari is not d person many people are painting him as....unfortunately he surrounds himself with corrupt politicians...how can u fight corruption with corruption?
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m):
Image123:
PTF was not where all the money was, that is an ignorant statement. Kindly do your research or ask around. And your logic makes no sense. It's like picking up any top management staff in CBN or nnpc and accusing him or her of theft because he works where all the money is.
please wats d meaning and function of PTF during d military era?...are u aware dat like NDDC,PTF had powers(if not more Dan Nddc) 2 command funds for projects... It was also another way of siphoning funds to oda countries?....If u claim ptf has no power 2 give or take funds,why was it probed by a panel setup by obasanjo in 1999 for mismanagement of d nation's funds?..

..i dont mean 2 sound rude but please mind ur language and besides i was never referring 2 u neither did i mention u....if ur way of discussing issues is engaging in insults like u do on d religious section,den u just found d right match...i repeat watch ur language cos u wudnt want us 2 go down dat path and u personally wont like how it will pan out...smh
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 8:01pm On Mar 18, 2015
Image123:
Then you should have no problem since APC is 80%pdp to you. Anyone of them will be fine, right?
dat option is up to u not me..whether u choose APC or any other party is none of my business..i dont support hypocrites filled wit propagandas! sad
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 9:47pm On Mar 18, 2015
chamboy:
In as much, that his Environment is not trusted by Few but we see people around him Respect him.. That d Main Thing.. Jesus Disciples weren't like Jesus buh because of the Respect they have for Jesus they acted like him
sorry 4 quoting u but Jesus and his disciples being compared 2 buhari and APC stalwarts is not only shocking but insulting on d personality of Jesus Christ....
remember buhari didn't choose dose supporting him wit deir looted monies....dey chose him!
and just like wat amaechi did 2 buhari wen he was answering d press men,same will happen if he eventually becomes d president....
Dats wat Bakare fear most...he is afraid dat buhari can't face his facilitators and prosecute dem after he has been elected...
like wat my cousin said,if after election he is sworn in and keeps repeating d "war on corruption" song...d cartels in APC will just send him 2 a "long sleep"....lol
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 5:46pm On Mar 19, 2015
openmine:
personally i believe wat Thisdaylive put up...but dat was many years ago....Unfortunately,most of d papers have taken down any incriminating evidence against buhari but d fact remains dat he said so 2 cover up his tracks.....and besides,u do know very well dat every thing can be altered including a video....like it or not,buhari is not d person many people are painting him as....unfortunately he surrounds himself with corrupt politicians...how can u fight corruption with corruption?
Try to believe without bias then. You said on March 18 that https://www.nairaland.com/2201705/trust-buhari-doubt-environment-tunde/4#31733759 ( am all 4 facts 2 prove dat Gej is corrupt beyond redemption..... not newspaper speculations or people's perceptions about someone). Then you end up giving me newspaper speculation. I gave you video evidence, you didn't bother checking it or cannot check it because the current government has not made such easily affordable/accessible. The video was from channelstv and is still on their website. I watched it, it was a channels interview with Buhari, and he clearly referenced Abacha administration as that of wanton corruption. It's on the Internet, not hidden or propaganda like most pdp quote attributed to Buhari and only seen in picture and photoshop.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:02pm On Mar 19, 2015
openmine:
please wats d meaning and function of PTF during d military era?...are u aware dat like NDDC,PTF had powers(if not more Dan Nddc) 2 command funds for projects... It was also another way of siphoning funds to oda countries?....If u claim ptf has no power 2 give or take funds,why was it probed by a panel setup by obasanjo in 1999 for mismanagement of d nation's funds?..

..i dont mean 2 sound rude but please mind ur language and besides i was never referring 2 u neither did i mention u....if ur way of discussing issues is engaging in insults like u do on d religious section,den u just found d right match...i repeat watch ur language cos u wudnt want us 2 go down dat path and u personally wont like how it will pan out...smh
You refused to do research or ask around but instead resorted to cockiness and threatening me. This is the intellectual laziness Buhari refers to. I will forgive you and help you out. The ptf is the petroleum special trust fund. Remember when President Jonathan increased pump price and promised palliatives, buses, refineries, ticket to heaven and other lies. Well, it's similar to what abacha did, only abacha was more honorable. Abacha increased pump price and when people were groaning, he created/decreed ptf to existence. To “identify key projects in all parts of the federation so as to bring about equitable development to all our communities.” PTF funds were a percentage of the increase in pump price revenue. Buhari was put as head of it. So you saying that is where all the money was is naive and ignorant. Try to confirm please, I'll spare you a reply on the remnants of what you typed.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:13pm On Mar 19, 2015
openmine:
dat option is up to u not me..whether u choose APC or any other party is none of my business..i dont support hypocrites filled wit propagandas! sad
Oh, when you say APC is 80% of PDP, then you should not have headaches or any problems with APC winning the elections since it's same same according to your theory. It's not an option up to me because i don't reason that way. The campaigns have been very clear and we can all see those that can at the least pretend to be disciplined, purposeful, issue based, and ready to do things differently. Things cannot and should not continue like this, the PDP thinks it should and that we are experiencing transformation. My faith is in God, i have none left for the PDP.
https://www.nairaland.com/859122/buhari-nigerias-head-state-1983-1985/6
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 6:28pm On Mar 19, 2015
openmine:
sorry 4 quoting u but Jesus and his disciples being compared 2 buhari and APC stalwarts is not only shocking but insulting on d personality of Jesus Christ....
remember buhari didn't choose dose supporting him wit deir looted monies....dey chose him!
and just like wat amaechi did 2 buhari wen he was answering d press men,same will happen if he eventually becomes d president....
Dats wat Bakare fear most...he is afraid dat buhari can't face his facilitators and prosecute dem after he has been elected...
like wat my cousin said,if after election he is sworn in and keeps repeating d "war on corruption" song...d cartels in APC will just send him 2 a "long sleep"....lol
The point he passed across is so simple, LEADERSHIP. People follow the leader. As corrupt and whatever Nigerians are, they behave when abroad, in traffic, business, exams, waste management etc. Because those places have a working government/leadership. Not the i wasn't consulted kind of management.
Also on Ameachi, that is very normal and his job. The question was a trip question, with neither response favoring Buhari's campaign. They do it everywhere, shielding presidents/leaders from potentially harmful questions. They do it in the US often to journalists. The president will not be taking questions at this time etc. i remember watching 24 some years ago and David Palmer was asked a question, someone shielded him from answering, though he later decided to answer. Point is, it's not a strange thing or a sign of the politicians being controlled. People have jobs to protect politicians to some extent from embarrassing or harmful questions. President Jonathan is number 1 proof, unfortunately gaffe plenty for him body.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m):
Image123:
The point he passed across is so simple, LEADERSHIP. People follow the leader. As corrupt and whatever Nigerians are, they behave when abroad, in traffic, business, exams, waste management etc. Because those places have a working government/leadership. Not the i wasn't consulted kind of management.
Also on Ameachi, that is very normal and his job. The question was a trip question, with neither response favoring Buhari's campaign. They do it everywhere, shielding presidents/leaders from potentially harmful questions. They do it in the US often to journalists. The president will not be taking questions at this time etc. i remember watching 24 some years ago and David Palmer was asked a question, someone shielded him from answering, though he later decided to answer. Point is, it's not a strange thing or a sign of the politicians being controlled. People have jobs to protect politicians to some extent from embarrassing or harmful questions. President Jonathan is number 1 proof, unfortunately gaffe plenty for him body.
Am hoping u are not alluding 2 d fact dat jesus christ and his disciples are now d twisted version of buhari and apc cartels...its not only shocking but also a pity dat its coming 4rm someone like u no matter ur political affiliation(well am guessing u r an apc supporter) grin
Of wat use is ur leadership if ur followers dont believe in ur "supposed Philosophy"...If he were in cpc,i wud have course to believe him but not this union called APC where deir so called masterplan is only but a coverup 2 continue deir looting of d national treasury...lets be frank with our selves,buhari is obviously going 2 be a puppet in d hands of d cartel in apc and its only a matter of time before it starts happening...

As 4 u refering amechi interrupting buhari as a norm is just a flimsy excuse 2 cover up d real crisis dat will soon take place wen dis adulterated union called APC is allowed to reign....lets say he was in a debate and such question was put across 2 him,will ameachi come and stop d debate because of such question?....just like u compared this to 24 series,My question is....inspite of his aides shielding him...did he still answer d question or not??
dats where u know a leader who is not afraid 2 answer any question no matter how complicated....dis is d reason why bakare is worried dat no matter d little crediblity he might have(which i personally doubt he has),he might not live 2 continue with his so called "corruption jingle" in d mist of money-hungry and crime laden politicians in APC masquerading as d "saint paul" of our time.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 9:43pm On Mar 19, 2015
Image123:
Oh, when you say APC is 80% of PDP, then you should not have headaches or any problems with APC winning the elections since it's same same according to your theory. It's not an option up to me because i don't reason that way. The campaigns have been very clear and we can all see those that can at the least pretend to be disciplined, purposeful, issue based, and ready to do things differently. Things cannot and should not continue like this, the PDP thinks it should and that we are experiencing transformation. My faith is in God, i have none left for the PDP.
https://www.nairaland.com/859122/buhari-nigerias-head-state-1983-1985/6
Once again its ur choice and not mine....its one man one vote.....
well i have no problem with disgruntled and corrupt politicians moving from one party 2 another...it only shows desperation and d urge 2 hold on to power....but wen such politicians like akume and sylva come on d press 2 talk of corruption,it only makes me laugh at d formation of hypocrites masking as saints and so called agents of deir mirage called change....unfortunately,u have been influenced by deir farce but hey dats ok...its ur decision grin grin grin U are old enough 2 make ur choice which is a gud tin on ur path....

..and finally My faith is also in God and i believe in transformation,i believe in moving forward not backward..i have seen d masterplan of this Government and its a great path dat will lead 2 so many benefits..fortunately,one of his laudable programmes,YOUWIN,which up till now has remained under-rated as one of his laudable achievements,has been of immense benefit for me and other well meaning nigerians involved in d world of business....so like i initially said,its ur choice and ur right.....but choose wisely smiley
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 10:07pm On Mar 19, 2015
Image123:
You refused to do research or ask around but instead resorted to cockiness and threatening me. This is the intellectual laziness Buhari refers to. I will forgive you and help you out. The ptf is the petroleum special trust fund. Remember when President Jonathan increased pump price and promised palliatives, buses, refineries, ticket to heaven and other lies. Well, it's similar to what abacha did, only abacha was more honorable. Abacha increased pump price and when people were groaning, he created/decreed ptf to existence. To “identify key projects in all parts of the federation so as to bring about equitable development to all our communities.” PTF funds were a percentage of the increase in pump price revenue. Buhari was put as head of it. So you saying that is where all the money was is naive and ignorant. Try to confirm please, I'll spare you a reply on the remnants of what you typed.
ignorance is indeed bliss...dat u still dont know d real intent behind dose funds and how all d monies in d national treasury go tru dis farce called ptf only proves dat u blindly want 2 believe in d same newspapers or informations dat u urself claim and admit not 2 swallow....hope u have a video for dis one grin grin grin grin
Dat u intend 2 paint abacha as "honorable & right" in all dis scam called ptf funds only shows ur apparent desperation in changing black 2 white....no wonder ur "honourable saint" buhari said abacha never stole any money and u unfortunately fell 4 dat scam grin grin grin
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by adefunke34: 10:46pm On Mar 19, 2015
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by adefunke34: 10:48pm On Mar 19, 2015
I don't trust anything of buhari, he's voilent
openmine:
ignorance is indeed bliss...dat u still dont know d real intent behind dose funds and how all d monies in d national treasury go tru dis farce called ptf only proves dat u blindly want 2 believe in d same newspapers or informations dat u urself claim and admit not 2 swallow....hope u have a video for dis one grin grin grin grin
Dat u intend 2 paint abacha as "honorable & right" in all dis scam called ptf funds only shows ur apparent desperation in changing black 2 white....no wonder ur "honourable saint" buhari said abacha never stole any money and u unfortunately fell 4 dat scam grin grin grin
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Omooba77: 6:25am On Mar 20, 2015
adefunke34:
I don't trust anything of buhari, he's voilent
The environment stink to high heavens,is it Saraki you want to kention who defrauded Societal General Bank...Amechi,abi Emperor,Tinubu,the list goes on and on...
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 9:29am On Mar 20, 2015
openmine:
Am hoping u are not alluding 2 d fact dat jesus christ and his disciples are now d twisted version of buhari and apc cartels...its not only shocking but also a pity dat its coming 4rm someone like u no matter ur political affiliation(well am guessing u r an apc supporter) grin
Of wat use is ur leadership if ur followers dont believe in ur "supposed Philosophy"...If he were in cpc,i wud have course to believe him but not this union called APC where deir so called masterplan is only but a coverup 2 continue deir looting of d national treasury...lets be frank with our selves,buhari is obviously going 2 be a puppet in d hands of d cartel in apc and its only a matter of time before it starts happening...

As 4 u refering amechi interrupting buhari as a norm is just a flimsy excuse 2 cover up d real crisis dat will soon take place wen dis adulterated union called APC is allowed to reign....lets say he was in a debate and such question was put across 2 him,will ameachi come and stop d debate because of such question?....just like u compared this to 24 series,My question is....inspite of his aides shielding him...did he still answer d question or not??
dats where u know a leader who is not afraid 2 answer any question no matter how complicated....dis is d reason why bakare is worried dat no matter d little crediblity he might have(which i personally doubt he has),he might not live 2 continue with his so called "corruption jingle" in d mist of money-hungry and crime laden politicians in APC masquerading as d "saint paul" of our time.
GEJ's philosophy is one of sustained corruption, nonchalance and gross incompetence. Buhari's philosophy of discipline and prudence has so far been followed by his party in this campaign unlike the PDP where everyone is given a free role to misbehavior, and the Presidency keeps mute or feign ignorance. You are saying what you don't know, giving us maybes about the future. Only God knows the future, so stop persuading us with maybes. The present and past is clear, the PDP government has failed at federal level.
It is a normal thing for spokespersons in the capacity of Ameachi to answer questions on behalf of their bosses or try to divert/deflect questions. Ameachi answered the question, he said Buhari already answered by saying he can't change the past. That is the best answer for his campaign and that is Ameachi's job. The PDP government remains a very corrupt government and what makes them worse is the impunity and shameless way they go about it.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 10:11am On Mar 20, 2015
openmine:
Once again its ur choice and not mine....its one man one vote.....
well i have no problem with disgruntled and corrupt politicians moving from one party 2 another...it only shows desperation and d urge 2 hold on to power....but wen such politicians like akume and sylva come on d press 2 talk of corruption,it only makes me laugh at d formation of hypocrites masking as saints and so called agents of deir mirage called change....unfortunately,u have been influenced by deir farce but hey dats ok...its ur decision grin grin grin U are old enough 2 make ur choice which is a gud tin on ur path....

..and finally My faith is also in God and i believe in transformation,i believe in moving forward not backward..i have seen d masterplan of this Government and its a great path dat will lead 2 so many benefits..fortunately,one of his laudable programmes,YOUWIN,which up till now has remained under-rated as one of his laudable achievements,has been of immense benefit for me and other well meaning nigerians involved in d world of business....so like i initially said,its ur choice and ur right.....but choose wisely smiley
Logically, if there's is urge or desperation to hold on to power, one would stay with people that already have the power(pdp), not with people who hope to have the power(apc). That is what logic and common sense SHOWS. The contest is between Buhari and Jonathan. Not between Ameachi and Alamesiagha. Alamesiagha, Ameachi, Sylva and co are citizens of Nigeria and have rights to their opinions and choices, that is the beauty of democracy. That thieves, rapists, thugs, accountants, lawyers, policemen, cobblers and the jobless can all vote in line with the Constitution. So don't get it twisted.
On YouWin, it's an initiative that banks, and other companies like Dangote, mtn, gulder, ExxonMobil etc can handle. Encouraging and assisting entrepreneurs is good and anyone can do it. It's not a big deal. Please do not be blinded by self or selfish interest. Perhaps, you are afraid YouWin might be stopped if GEJ loses. I doubt it will be stopped, at least for those already involved. But we need a government that will provide an enabling environment, power, productive employment and dignity of labor.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m):
openmine:
ignorance is indeed bliss...dat u still dont know d real intent behind dose funds and how all d monies in d national treasury go tru dis farce called ptf only proves dat u blindly want 2 believe in d same newspapers or informations dat u urself claim and admit not 2 swallow....hope u have a video for dis one grin grin grin grin
Dat u intend 2 paint abacha as "honorable & right" in all dis scam called ptf funds only shows ur apparent desperation in changing black 2 white....no wonder ur "honourable saint" buhari said abacha never stole any money and u unfortunately fell 4 dat scam grin grin grin
You should help your future with some honesty. Do research and ask around if you don't know. I was around during ptf days and saw it work. I know their source of funding and it is common knowledge. Get your facts please, enough of conspiracy theories and maybes. The ptf was created/decreed when abacha increased the pump price. A percentage of the increase was to go to the petroleum SPECIAL TRUST fund. Google can help you if i, history or your experience cannot. You claimed ptf is "where all the money was". That remains ignorance or plain mischief. It is like claiming that the increase of pump price by President Jonathan in 2012 is where all the money is. Jonathan promised to use the subsidy reduction to build refineries and many other promises. Abacha promised to use a percentage of the pump price increase in ptf projects. Abacha honored his word and promise, President Jonathan didn't. This is so plain I'm starting to be embarrassed for you. You may choose to believe what you want to believe. The fact is out there cheaply, Buhari referred to abacha administration as that of wanton corruption. Those were his exact words on Channelstv. It's on YouTube and i went as far as giving you the link. You didn't bother watching the video because you don't want the truth.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 10:31am On Mar 20, 2015
Image123:
GEJ's philosophy is one of sustained corruption, nonchalance and gross incompetence. Buhari's philosophy of discipline and prudence has so far been followed by his party in this campaign unlike the PDP where everyone is given a free role to misbehavior, and the Presidency keeps mute or feign ignorance. You are saying what you don't know, giving us maybes about the future. Only God knows the future, so stop persuading us with maybes. The present and past is clear, the PDP government has failed at federal level.
It is a normal thing for spokespersons in the capacity of Ameachi to answer questions on behalf of their bosses or try to divert/deflect questions. Ameachi answered the question, he said Buhari already answered by saying he can't change the past. That is the best answer for his campaign and that is Ameachi's job. The PDP government remains a very corrupt government and what makes them worse is the impunity and shameless way they go about it.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin A pot calling a kettle black...whose statement is riddled with maybes,lies and apparent propaganda...a two faced man who is dinning with the devil will surely come 2 ruin....buhari is not d messiah nigeria needs like it or not...dats my candid opinion!!

If indeed dat is buhari's philosophy in life den he is not being prudent like u said because no man can claim 2 b disciplined and prudent yet surround himself with miscreants and charlatans who are hell bent on holding onto power till eternity...You cant fight corruption with corruption....I will never tag president Gej as a perfect man...everyone has deir forte and achilles heel but he is trying and will get it right....remember change is not an event but a process!

I neva in my statement gave u maybes about d future or persuade u 2 do wat u dont want....dats up 2 u...am hoping apc propaganda and lying syrup has not been given 2 u as a form of initiation?? grin grin grin na joke ohhh cheesy cheesy cheesy
I still insist dat amechi sud have allowed buhari 2 speak and not interrupt him....buhari is d one dat is contesting for d presidency and not ameachi...he is going 2 serve d nigerian populace and not his party faithfuls...

Yeah right pdp government is corrupt so is apc government even before dey have even stepped into aso rock grin grin grin
U talk as if apc is not corrupt...as if dey are now righteous and know no crime grin grin grin grin story 4 d gods smiley smiley
I can prove 2 u dat sum apc governors esp amaechi is seriously milking rivers state dry by using monies from d state coffers to purchase expensive equipments which he and his cronies will later sell and take back d money later...i also have a photocopied recipte 2 show u how he uses state funds for buhari's presidential primaries and now d on going presidential campaign....a saint indeed angry angry
wat about osun state governor Rauf Aregbesola who up until now is owing civil servants for 5months but he was seen recently in d streets of osun,ontop a bus,sharing monies meant for d state.... undecided undecided am guessing dats d kind of people u want 2 rule 9ja....

i have never said pdp is perfect but apc sud not come and claim dey are "holier dan thou"...not wen most of deir members were former pdp big wings...he who talks of equity must come with clean hands...even former apc governor of ekiti state fayemi yesterday in channelstv,admitted dat there were corrupt members in deir party....

abeg its ur right 2 vote...whether u vote buhari or my presido Gej wink wink
Nigeria must move on....enough said!!
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by vanilson(m): 10:34am On Mar 20, 2015
CHANGE Is what we need not With ALL These
1. The Chibok Girls
2. NNPC AS GOVT ATM
3. Police pension fund
4. Missing $20Billion
5. $9million Arms deal Embarrassment in SA
6. EKITIGATE Election fraud
7. Immigration job SCAM (He is just meeting the victims and dolling out money )
8 .DEPLETING External Reserves.
9. Devaluation of Naira to N250 to a $
10. Oil theft Increase
11. REWARDING THIEVES with NATIONAL honours and appointments
12. CRIPPLING OF THE EFCC
13. REFUSAL TO FIX NIGERIAN REFINERIES
14. Skyrocketed ELECTRICITY Bills
15. POLARIZATION OF NIGERIA LABOUR CONGRESS
16. STEALING IS NOT CORRUPTION
17. National Assembly INVASION by Police
19. Stella Oduah Aviation Scam (THE BULLET PROOF CARS...)
20. Kerosene subsidy
21. Last minute fighting of Insurgency
22. Sentencing soldiers to death for asking for weapons to fight
23. Directly supporting and paying 10million USD as salary to terorist Asari and Terrorist Tompolo amongst others
24. Palling around with boko haram chieftains in Niger and Dafty's inability to capture, extract information and bring to justice a singe
captured boko haram fighter up till today
25. Mrs Dafty's personal terrorist bombing campaigns in Rivers state (Stoning the opposition)
26. Dafty's work for the benefits of enemies of Nigeria - Handpicking Abacha's son as PDP candidate for Kano, stoppng FaniKayode,treasury
looting case and appointing him in his campaign, supporter of Anenih,IBB, and other treasury looters who should be in jail
27. Conversion of MOPOL to Meiguard of the rich while the poor wallow in abject insecurity; and using regular police, eg. Mbu, as political thugs!
28. Postponing elections by refusing to provide security when in fact,elections will last for only one day, and the entire armed forces and
police in Nigeria could have been deployed to secure just that 10hrs of the election day.
29. Sending troops to look for Sambisa forest in Tinubu's Ikoyi house
30. Giving AIT 10billion to air false and negative videos on APC.
31. REJECTION OF THE CARD READER.
32. CONFIRMATION OF [ Obanikoro ]THE ELECTION RIGGER as a MINISTER
33. FAILURE TO PUBLICLY DECLARE his ASSETS saying "I don't give a damn"
34. BURNING OF INEC OFFICE.
35. SPONSORING of ethnic MILITIAS TO STOP POLLS (e.g. MASSOB, OPC)
36. EMBARASSING PHONE CALL to the Moroccan KING...
37. Babysitting Boko Haram until it became the global threat it now is with ISIS
38. 9.2billion naira to buy stoves
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m):
Image123:
You should help your future with some honesty. Do research and ask around if you don't know. I was around during ptf days and saw it work. I know their source of funding and it is common knowledge. Get your facts please, enough of conspiracy theories and maybes. The ptf was created/decreed when abacha increased the pump price. A percentage of the increase was to go to the petroleum SPECIAL TRUST fund. Google can help you if i, history or your experience cannot. You claimed ptf is "where all the money was". That remains ignorance or plain mischief. It is like claiming that the increase of pump price by President Jonathan in 2012 is where all the money is. Jonathan promised to use the subsidy reduction to build refineries and many other promises. Abacha promised to use a percentage of the pump price increase in ptf projects. Abacha honored his word and promise, President Jonathan didn't. This is so plain I'm starting to be embarrassed for you.
I still maintain dat u know absolutely nothing about d ptf funds....
i can as well claim dat i worked with ptf in d financial department during abacha's regime as head of state if dats wat will make my words luk credible and believeable like urs.... grin grin grin grin ....pls spear me dat yan....

As for d subsidy during 2012,most of d funds were used mostly in d agricultural sector 2 diversify d economy and d formation of surep which pays graduate d sum of #30k durin a 1year internship in a company....most of d people i know are participants of dat programme and other laudable programs like YOUWIN which will empower young business men and women with d necessary capitals 2 push deir busness forward...and other amenities like road constructions, d building of several universities and d railway projects...

i can go on and on but u refuse 2 see dem because u have already concluded dat his administration is corrupt....and nothing good will ever come out from him...its well...but like i said,its ur choice!!

As for d video where u claim dat he accused abacha as being corrupt....i still insist dat buhari and babangida absolved abacha of looting...i have shown u d link and where he said so...u also disregarded d info claiming u dont believe in wat is put up in d newspapers....for d benefit of oda nairalanders,here is d link

[b]Muhammadu Buhari's Declaration that Dictatorial Nigerian Military Head of State Sani Abacha Did Not Steal Public Funds

One of the major points of criticism against Muhammadu Buhari, APC Presidential candidate for the 2015 Nigerian elections, is his declaration that late Nigerian military dictator Sani Abacha, in whose government Buhari had worked, did not loot public funds while in office.


Sani Abacha became Nigeria's head of state through a coup, ruling from 1983 to 1985.


Yet huge amounts of Abacha's loot were being recovered from different parts of the world, even as Buhari made that declaration which he has never revised.

This development casts Buhari's integrity in a very doubtful light, particularly in relation to his much touted anti-corruption credentials and claims of ethnic bigotry directed against him.

Buhari made this declaration on the 5th of June 2008, at the 10th year commemoration in Kano of the death of Sani Abacha, as reported, among other sources, by Ibrahim Shuaibu in his article "Abacha Never stole, Say Buhari, Babangida" in This Day news magazine on the 9th of June 2008, and republished in AllAfrica.com ( http://allafrica.com/stories/200806090008.html).[/b]
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 11:05am On Mar 20, 2015
openmine:
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin A pot calling a kettle black...whose statement is riddled with maybes,lies and apparent propaganda...a two faced man who is dinning with the devil will surely come 2 ruin....buhari is not d messiah nigeria needs like it or not...dats my candid opinion!!

If indeed dat is buhari's philosophy in life den he is not being prudent like u said because no man can claim 2 b disciplined and prudent yet surround himself with miscreants and charlatans who are hell bent on holding onto power till eternity...You cant fight corruption with corruption....I will never tag president Gej as a perfect man...everyone has deir forte and achilles heel but he is trying and will get it right....remember change is not an event but a process!

I neva in my statement gave u maybes about d future or persuade u 2 do wat u dont want....dats up 2 u...am hoping apc propaganda and lying syrup has not been given 2 u as a form of initiation?? grin grin grin na joke ohhh cheesy cheesy cheesy
I still insist dat amechi sud have allowed buhari 2 speak and not interrupt him....buhari is d one dat is contesting for d presidency and not ameachi...he is going 2 serve d nigerian populace and not his party faithfuls...

Yeah right pdp government is corrupt so is apc government even before dey have even stepped into aso rock grin grin grin
U talk as if apc is not corrupt...as if dey are now righteous and know no crime grin grin grin grin story 4 d gods smiley smiley
I can prove 2 u dat sum apc governors esp amaechi is seriously milking rivers state dry by using monies from d state coffers to purchase expensive equipments which he and his cronies will later sell and take back d money later...i also have a photocopied recipte 2 show u how he uses state funds for buhari's presidential primaries and now d on going presidential campaign....a saint indeed angry angry
wat about osun state governor Rauf Aregbesola who up until now is owing civil servants for 5months but he was seen recently in d streets of osun,ontop a bus,sharing monies meant for d state.... undecided undecided am guessing dats d kind of people u want 2 rule 9ja....

i have never said pdp is perfect but apc sud not come and claim dey are "holier dan thou"...not wen most of deir members were former pdp big wings...he who talks of equity must come with clean hands...even former apc governor of ekiti state fayemi yesterday in channelstv,admitted dat there were corrupt members in deir party....

abeg its ur right 2 vote...whether u vote buhari or my presido Gej wink wink
Nigeria must move on....enough said!!
It's not funny, we're talking about the future of the country not a movie. I have no where made reference to messiahs and saints, stop acting deluded. The future is a maybe, so anytime you leave the present and start talking rubbish about how people will hijack government from Buhari and loot Nigeria , that's conspiracy theories and maybes. Stop getting it twisted, election is between Jonathan and Buhari, not aregbesola, Fayose and kwakwanso. I talked about Buhari's campaign philosophy as being one of prudence and discipline compared to GEJ.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 11:07am On Mar 20, 2015
openmine:
I still maintain dat u know absolutely nothing about d ptf funds....
i can as well claim dat i worked with ptf in d financial department during abacha's regime as head of state if dats wat will make my words luk credible and believeable like urs.... grin grin grin grin ....pls spear me dat yan....

As for d subsidy during 2012,most of d funds were used mostly in d agricultural sector 2 diversify d economy and d formation of surep which pays graduate d sum of #30k durin a 1year internship in a company....most of d people i know are participants of dat programme and other laudable programs like YOUWIN which will empower young business men and women with d necessary capitals 2 push deir busness forward...and other amenities like road constructions, d building of several universities and d railway projects...

i can go on and on but u refuse 2 see dem because u have already concluded dat his administration is corrupt....and nothing good will ever come out from him...its well...but like i said,its ur choice!!
You are being paid for this, thanks for your time.
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 11:38am On Mar 20, 2015
Image123:
It's not funny, we're talking about the future of the country not a movie. I have no where made reference to messiahs and saints, stop acting deluded. The future is a maybe, so anytime you leave the present and start talking rubbish about how people will hijack government from Buhari and loot Nigeria , that's conspiracy theories and maybes. Stop getting it twisted, election is between Jonathan and Buhari, not aregbesola, Fayose and kwakwanso. I talked about Buhari's campaign philosophy as being one of prudence and discipline compared to GEJ.
i Laugh because u have a twisted and negative intent for d future of nigeria...
You are d deluded and totally misguided one who tinks buhari can refine and make clean wat is already rotten and misplaced...pls are u related 2 buhari?
do u also have a magic wand 2 predict how buhari will run dis country...?
dont u know dat d governors i called are part of d change dat Apc portrays??
dont u know dat dose governors are d main propellers in apc in d running of d country?
who are u 2 judge and condemn president jonathan while u keep glorifying buhari as d best tin dat happened 2 nigeria since fried egg angry angry
If he had discipline and prudence like u erroneously claimed,why is he not in another party other dan apc contesting as president since u believe dat his personality not his party will will be d key focus in d election?
U claim i keep creating conspiracies and maybes yet u r also guility of d same,painting buhari as an angel...typing recurring rubbish about him being disciplined and prudent...go find out out wat dose words mean before u decorate it on buhari...smh
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m):
Image123:
You are being paid for this, thanks for your time.
paid for wat?
...i dont blame u..dats has been d very trait of an average Apc supporter recently...u r no different huh
wen u endorse buhari u r righteous and want "change" but wen u endorse d president,u have been paid very well by him...wat a terrible and baseless accusation..smh huh
Wat an insult...?? angry angry angry
For ur info,i was never and will never be paid a cent 2 support GEJ....d day he or any of his campaign team offer me money in exchange 4 support is where i stop supporting GEJ....stop trying 2 be emotional...it doesnt suit u huh huh
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by Image123(m): 1:19pm On Mar 20, 2015
Remarkable.

Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m):
hmmmmmmm...................
It is only in Nigeria that the man who later accepted appointment as PTF Chairman under the MOST CORRUPT government ever in Nigeria's history and then commandeered more than 200 PTF vehicles for private use in his home in Kaduna would not be in jail today.
He later said that Abacha did not loot anything from Nigeria! This is the man who, in his supporters' opinion, will have zero tolerance for corruption!

It is only in Nigeria that the man who, as PTF Chairman, embezzled billions of Naira through over-invoicing of supplies and the supply of fake and expired drugs to hospitals is now a disciplined man. Why did Ahmed Salihijo, whose consortium was in charge of all the PTF contracts under Buhari, commit suicide when former President Obasanjo commenced the probe of PTF in 1999?

It is only in Nigeria that the man who, as Head of State, allowed 56 illegal suitcases of currency notes into the country through his ADC unchecked when there was currency change by his own government in the country at the time would be described as a man of his words.

Its only in Nigeria where a man who claims 2 be a corruption activist will surround himself with corrupt agents whose cases up till this moment is still with the efcc and other corruption related agencies....Even his former running mate,pastor bakare,warned him of d apparent influence of his corruption-soaked surrounding which will pressurise him to forget his corruption fight if he finally gets 2 aso rock...!!

Now i ask....
Can a man scoop fire into his lap without getting his clothes burnt?

YOU CAN NOT FIGHT CORRUPTION WITH CORRUPTION!!


The truth that will descend and expose buhari and his blind and guillble supporters is doing press-up ...#DTruthwillset9jafree

Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by akanbiaa(m): 8:49am On Mar 21, 2015
openmine:
Neva will APC b a viable option 2 PDP..talk about oda parties but not apc...APC is made of up of at most 80% of former PDP members...and most of dem also have criminal cases wit efcc....how does a corrupt politician fight corruption....is it possible?
as 4 Bakare,he was only stating d obvious about d deceptive union of APC....unfortunately buhari is entangled in deir web of deceit....even if he finally gets 2 aso rock which I doubt,he will become an obvious "puppet" 4 d APC "cartels" who will milk Dis country dry...! smh
So should we stick to the PDP cartels Kashamu Anenih and co and endure as they continue to milk us dry?
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by openmine(m): 10:01am On Mar 21, 2015
akanbiaa:
So should we stick to the PDP cartels Kashamu Anenih and co and endure as they continue to milk us dry?
good question!!
since its now obvious dat both are corruption-soaked and will never give u wat ur heart desires as a citizen,den vote for another party...
..cos if my memory serves me rite,there were 14 registered parties...so make ur choice....its as simple as dat...
dats y ur vote is ur right and power..we all have a choice 2 choose who leads us in d next four years...!!!
tune in to ait tomorrow 2 watch d presidential debate so dat u can make informed choices...unfortunately buhari has said he will not come for a debate....well dat 4 me,dat rules him out (dats if i had considered him)...dont know wat u tink about it....So watch and Votewisely!! cool cool
Re: I Trust Buhari But Doubt His Environment - Tunde Bakare by akanbiaa(m): 6:15pm On Mar 23, 2015
openmine:
good question!!
since its now obvious dat both are corruption-soaked and will never give u wat ur heart desires as a citizen,den vote for another party...
..cos if my memory serves me rite,there were 14 registered parties...so make ur choice....its as simple as dat...
dats y ur vote is ur right and power..we all have a choice 2 choose who leads us in d next four years...!!!
tune in to ait tomorrow 2 watch d presidential debate so dat u can make informed choices...unfortunately buhari has said he will not come for a debate....well dat 4 me,dat rules him out (dats if i had considered him)...dont know wat u tink about it....So watch and Votewisely!! cool cool
most of the other party are tentacles of the bigger parties and must AIT /NTA which have shown partisanship and favored Jonathan be the station I should stick to or TVC owned by Tinubu I better manage Arise and Channels for balanced information dissemination for now. If you put someone like fani KAYODE and his likes to debate they are bound to win but can we trust them? Let's vote for people we can trust and have showed they are reliable and have tacked the problems of corruption, unemployment, power, security and basic infrastructures in the past
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