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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:53pm On Mar 25, 2015
bdidi:


U mentioned standardization, what has standardization got to do with filling correction information in a form?

If ur Mohammed in one of ur document nagates mohammadu in another of ur document, would you say its standardization as u put it? In documentation, it means both document belongs to different people. Except u swear an affidavit stating the right name that will then make the other valid.

Why is it that if u fill a form and you have an error you counter sign on that error? Is it not to make the document or form valid

There are rules in simple documentation.

Anyway the suit is why did buhari not submit his credentials along with the form he filled

Why did he say his credentials were with the military when he knew that it can be gotten like he has claimed already.

Why did he fill in the form that he is a civil servant?


You know the truth but you are just been sentimental my opinion though no harm intended

This circuitous debate is beginning to bore me. The sworn affidavit is for his missing certificate not a certifying statement of results. Are you reading my posts at all? Or is that you are incapable of following a logical sequence of arguments?
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:54pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Matter don tie wrapper!

Glad you now recognise how redundant your earlier arguments were.
You are most welcome. wink
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 1:56pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


Glad you now recognise how redundant your earlier arguments were.
You are most welcome. wink

If all these be true, then the case is as good as NO CASE!
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 1:58pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


Read the excerpt provided below...



Source: http://thenationonlineng.net/new/buhari-ordered-dismiss-48-errant-cadets-nda-32-muslims-gen-paul-tarfa/




^^^Puerile arguments that are not worthy of a response.




Disapprove the following and shame the devil..



Source: http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/new-news/19039-it-s-absurd-to-say-buhari-has-no-certificate-gen-tarfa




Who told you it is possible to get a certificate for an examination held more than 50 years ago, in 2015, TANoid @k9ine?

When are you untutored clowns going to understand that things worked a little differently in the 1960s? Or that 'University of Cambridge Local Examinations Syndicate' (UCLES) no longer exists in its original form.

For one; all enquiries relating to certificates of exams held that far back, must now go to 'Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Exams' (OCR) - a new examination board


Source: Get a replacement exam certificate -- https://www.gov.uk/replacement-exam-certificate/if-your-old-exam-board-no-longer-exists

And two; OCR would only provide a 'certifying statement of results' - the equivalent of the same document already provided by Katsina college - and not an original CERTIFICATE.

*** Refer to screen shot attached, for further information.



APC issued a warning, simple.
If you look around you, you will find that no upstanding Nigerian of repute has ever repudiated Buhari's claim of fulfilling the qualifying the criteria; which is nothing more than a secondary school certificate. That a section of the political class led by the likes of FFK and the TAN movement have decided to milk the issue of a sworn affidavit for all its worth, is the greatest testimony that Jonathan's administration is bereft of ideas! I say this because anyone with an ounce of sense knows fully well that this was the same tactic employed by the so-called truthists (Tea-Party) movement in the United States, on account of Obama's birth certificate.

It is up to you to show that you are capable of rising above sentiments, by providing more germane arguments rather than the asinine logic you have rehashed here.






Ok, we agree that buhari sat for the final exams and obtained his WASC, accepted. Now we also agree that the WASC has been misplaced somehow, maybe by the military or IBB or whatever, accepted.

Now when you lose your original certificate, the right thing to do is to approach your school and try to get at least a certified-true-copy. My question is this, why is it so difficult for buhari to reach out to WASC to check their records and issue him a certified-true-copy of his WASC?

Why is it that the APC has spent so much money in arguing certificate matter when they could easily have used a small amount of money to help buhari contact Cambridge and get a certified-true-copy?

Logically, would it not be a devastating blow to the PDP for buhari to get his certified-true-copy from Cambridge and put the PDP to shame? Imagine how PDP would be disgraced if buhari presents this certified-true-copy so what is preventing buhari from contacting Cambridge? At least Cambridge is still in existence and he was even in the UK recently.

Is it that buhari does not have the resources to contact Cambridge and silence his critics once and for all?

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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 1:58pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


If all these be true, then the case is as good as NO CASE!

I drew that conclusion from the onset.
Buhari's detractors also know this much, which is why they appear to be hedging their bets on a technicality - that fact that he said one thing, and the policitised army said another.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:03pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Ok, we agree that buhari sat for the final exams and obtained his WASC, accepted. Now we also agree that the WASC has been misplaced somehow, maybe by the military or IBB or whatever, accepted.

Now when you lose your original certificate, the right thing to do is to approach your school and try to get at least a certified-true-copy. My question is this, why is it so difficult for buhari to reach out to WASC to check their records and issue him a certified-true-copy of his WASC?

Why is it that the APC has spent so much money in arguing certificate matter when they could easily have used a small amount of money to help buhari contact Cambridge and get a certified-true-copy?


Logically, would it not be a devastating blow to the PDP for buhari to get his certified-true-copy from Cambridge and put the PDP to shame? Imagine how PDP would be disgraced if buhari presents this certified-true-copy so what is preventing buhari from contacting Cambridge? At least Cambridge is still in existence and he was even in the UK recently.

Is it that buhari does not have the resources to contact Cambridge and silence his critics once and for all?

To the emboldened section of your post - I say he was only following an approach he had adopted in the past.
I have similarly leveraged an affidavit, to get myself out of a bind, because the provisions of the law allowed it.

Blame the game not the gamer.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:05pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


This circuitous debate is beginning to bore me. The sworn affidavit is for his missing certificate not a certifying statement of results. Are you reading my posts at all? Or is that you are incapable of following a logical sequence of arguments?


Don't you think buhari can put an end to all these drama once and for all by contacting Cambridge to give hi a certified-true-copy of his WASC?

Why dancing left, right and center when there is a very easy way out of this whole shiit?
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:06pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


To the emboldened section of your post - I say he was only following an approach he had adopted in the past.
I have similarly leveraged an affidavit, to get myself out of a bind, because the provisions of the law allowed it.

Blame the game not the gamer.



Why is buhari avoiding Cambridge on this matter?
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 2:07pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Don't you think buhari can put an end to all these drama once and for all by contacting Cambridge to give hi a certified-true-copy of his WASC?

Why dancing left, right and center when there is a very easy way out of this whole shiit?

Simple. The matter should have ended long before now!
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:08pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Don't you think buhari can put an end to all these drama once and for all by contacting Cambridge to give hi a certified-true-copy of his WASC?

Why dancing left, right and center when there is a very easy way out of this whole shiit?

An easy way out of the shiit for who? The TAN movement? Large sections of the Nigerian electorate who don't give a rat's arse about his WASC qualification? Or just EUROFIGHTERR?

My advice to Buhari would be, to continue ignoring all the bellicose noise.
It is time Nigerians learnt to elevate the debate about their future instead of chasing inconsequential matters.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:08pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Simple. The matter should have ended long before now!

Why is buhari avoiding Cambridge?
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:09pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


An easy way out of the shiit for who? The TAN movement? Large sections of the Nigerian electorate who don't give a rat's arse about his WASC qualification? Or just EUROFIGHTERR?


You are not as smart as you think, why is buhari avoiding Cambridge? The institution is still in existence so why dodging them?
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:11pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


You are not as smart as you think, why is buhari avoiding Cambridge? The institution is still in existence so why dodging them?

I care little for the appraisal of faceless NL commentator, thank you.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by bdidi: 2:11pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


This circuitous debate is beginning to bore me. The sworn affidavit is for his missing certificate not a certifying statement of results. Are you reading my posts at all? Or is that you are incapable of following a logical sequence of arguments?


Or is that you are incapable of following a logical sequence of argument....that's quite very funny!

Anyway let's leave this matter to the courts.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 2:13pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Why is buhari avoiding Cambridge?

I wish I knew. He was recently in the UK. Even if a large section of the masses no longer care about it, it remains a constitutional requirement.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:16pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


I care little for the appraisal of faceless NL commentator, thank you.

I smh for you, keep deceiving yourself...change my foot!

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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:18pm On Mar 25, 2015
bdidi:


Or is that you are incapable of following a logical sequence of argument....that's quite very funny!

Anyway let's leave this matter to the courts.


Believe me he understands very well what you have been trying to say and what I have been trying to point out too; he is just pretending. Such is the type of "Change" the APC wants to give Nigeria. embarassed embarassed

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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:22pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


I wish I knew. He was recently in the UK. Even if a large section of the masses no longer care about it, it remains a constitutional requirement.

buhari is avoiding the Cambridge because he knows he has no WASC! The army was right, he joined the army with a letter written by his school principal. shocked shocked shocked

Such were the kind of preferential treatments the hausa/fulani used to enjoy in Nigeria of those years! Even now, you can see that INEC cleared him to contest despite the fact that he did not meet all the requirements. It is this injustice and lack of fairness that must end in this country that is why buhari will never rule this country again!
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:22pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Believe me he understands very well what you have been trying to say and what I have been trying to point out too; he is just pretending. Such is the type of "Change" the APC wants to give Nigeria. embarassed embarassed

Get me GEJ's PhD thesis, and I will join your campaign train for 'a certified true copy' of Buhari's certificate. Deal?
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 2:23pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


I smh for you, keep deceiving yourself...change my foot!

Thank you for spotting the holes I didn't see in his arguments.

This matter should have ended months ago.

Buhari keeps avoiding the Cambridge like it's sone kind of a plague!

Hahahahahahaahahahahahahhhhhahaa.

U get mouth die.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:23pm On Mar 25, 2015
Strike that last post - get me his MSc/BSc thesis instead. grin
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:24pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Thank you for spotting the holes I didn't see in his arguments.

This matter should have ended months ago.

Buhari keeps avoiding the Cambridge like it's sone kind of a plague!

Hahahahahahaahahahahahahhhhhahaa.

U get mouth die.

Consolation huh?

Having torn each of your arguments to shreds, you now bask in make-belief glory?
Anyway, it is pretty clear you need it.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by dein77(m): 2:29pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


Consolation huh?

Having torn each of your arguments to shreds, you now bask in make-belief glory?
Anyway, it is pretty clear you need it.

Something close kinda close to that.

It's foolishness to continue to hold onto one's point when superior one is brought forward. I retreated cos I couldn't counter your argument. That's the way I learn.

However, another fellow showed you some holes in your arguments. No one knows it all. Accept or counter his points, and move on.

The case remains; why GMB dey avoid Cambridge like EBOLA?
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:33pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


Get me GEJ's PhD thesis, and I will join your campaign train for 'a certified true copy' of Buhari's certificate. Deal?


Don't deviate from the issue here. The requirement is not to submit Thesis but certificates which Jonathan has submitted. buhari on the other hand said he left his certificate with the military.

http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathans-phd-certificate-authentic-uniport/

UNIPORT has issued a statement decalring Jonathan's certificates as authentic. We are yet to hear from the Cambridge that supposedly issued buhari with WASC. The question still remains, why is it difficult for buhari to contact Cambridge to issue a statement saying that buhari was presented with a WASC to kill this matter once and for all

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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:35pm On Mar 25, 2015
dein77:


Something close kinda close to that.

It's foolishness to continue to hold onto one's point when superior one is brought forward. I retreated cos I couldn't counter your argument. That's the way I learn.

However, another fellow showed you some holes in your arguments. No one knows it all. Accept or counter his points, and move on.

The case remains; why GMB dey avoid Cambridge like EBOLA?

Having satisfied the requirement of INEC, Buhari clearly sees no reason to fulfil the demands of acerbic TANoids.

Further more, read one of my earlier posts on this subject:

And two; OCR would only provide a 'certifying statement of results' - the equivalent of the same document already provided by Katsina college - and not an original CERTIFICATE.

Trust me on this one, it is with some humility that I lay claim to being better informed that most partisan commentators.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 2:38pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


Don't deviate from the issue here. The requirement is not to submit Thesis but certificates which Jonathan has submitted. buhari on the other hand said he left his certificate with the military.

http://www.punchng.com/news/jonathans-phd-certificate-authentic-uniport/

UNIPORT has issued a statement decalring Jonathan's certificates as authentic. We are yet to hear from the Cambridge that supposedly issued buhari with WASC. The question still remains, why is it difficult for buhari to contact Cambridge to issue a statement saying that buhari was presented with a WASC to kill this matter once and for all

Well, it is my considered view that GEJ might have committed perjury cheesy
You don't trust Katsina college, I don't trust UNIPORT.

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Earlier post:

It will amount to institutional immolation, if Uniport comes clean on this one.

Anyone ever tried to squeeze blood from a stone?

Exclusive: So we went looking for the thesis and certificates of Pres. Jonathan & Sambo – this is what we found



As the 14 February, 2015 date for the presidential elections draws closer, supporters and critics of the country’s two major parties, the People’s Democratic Party (PDP) and the All Progressives Congress (APC) have been at loggerheads over the candidates of their respective parties.

In December, it crystallized into a debate over the academic credentials of both candidates, especially those of President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.

The president’s profile on the State House website reads thus: “He graduated with Second Class Upper honours in 1981. In 1985 and 1995 he studied for his Master’s and Ph.D degrees in Hydrobiology and Fisheries Biology, and Zoology respectively, from the same University.”

This gave him the status of being Nigeria’s most educated President ever. This was until the masses inspired by the increasing influence of social media and improved citizens participation in governance, began to ask questions.


Some began to ask, for a president with issues of eloquence and clarity of thought according to his critics, where was the evidence of his doctorate degree? For one whose campaign team has asked the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) to disqualify his main challenger over the same issue of academic qualifications, wasn’t this being a proverbial case of removing the speck in another’s eyes when a log is embedded in the accuser’s?

It caused so much of a storm; we went in search of the president’s thesis.

Mrs. Victoria Boyo was Head of Department (HOD) of Home Economics at the time when Dr. Jonathan was a lecturer at the Rivers State University of Education confirmed that he was a colleague then. “He was one of those very quiet people who couldn’t hurt a fly,” she recalls. “He hardly participated in even campus politics but as far as his qualifications are concerned, I don’t know anything.”

At the departmental library of the Department of Zoology (now Animal & Environmental Biology), a dedicated two-hour search by two volunteers combing through the shelves, yielded nothing.
The resident librarian, who joined the departmental staff in 2006 says she got to the task of arranging the projects, dissertations and theses of past students at the undergraduate, postgraduate and doctoral levels as soon as she arrived. “I never once came across the president’s doctoral thesis,” she said, on condition of anonymity.

The catalog in the library was no help as it lists only theses submitted from 2007.

The entire department moved to its present location on third floor of the four-storey building that houses the entire College of Sciences in 1993 from the old Choba Park campus that at present still has the Faculty of Education. While it is possible that many copies of such documents were misplaced in the relocation, Jonathan’s could not have been among the affected ones, as he supposedly submitted it two years later, in 1995.

Another member of staff who wouldn’t want her name in print, mentioned that during an accreditation exercise and inspection tour of the school as recently as 2014, officials of the National Universities’ Commission (NUC) asked to be shown the departmental library. While inside, they asked to see the thesis of Jonathan, the department’s most prominent export ever, but it was unavailable. At the time, she says, a new HOD had just been appointed who claimed not to know the status of the missing document, leaving the NUC officials bewildered.

Interestingly, Jonathan’s Master’s dissertation obtained in 1986 in Hydro-Biology and Fisheries Biology specialization in the same course (Zoology), was also nowhere to be found – even though there are some that date back as far as 1981.

Of course, record-keeping in Nigeria is notoriously poor and many universities are yet to digitize their libraries.

Roseline Konya, professor of pharmacology and toxicology, and one-time Commissioner for Environment under the administration is currently the Dean of Graduate Studies at the university. Back in 1995, she supervised one Asim E. Eno. By virtue of the time of submission, Konya could have also supervised the President if he was a doctorate student then. Attempts to reach her proved abortive as she was “not on seat” when this reporter visited. Mails to her have been unreplied.

“Who you wan put for trouble,” someone in her office said after offering her email address, while refusing to give up her mobile number. “She will never reply you on this matter.”


Below are pictures from the thesis of one Asim E. Eno who also submitted a thesis in 1995, the same year Jonathan supposedly did his too.





The current Head of Department for Animal & Environmental Biology, Professor Florence Nduka, also could not be reached for comments as at the time of publishing this report as she was also “not on seat”.

An official enquiry submitted to the school administration has not been replied.

An extensive search online revealed a conference paper, “Identification of West African Estuarine Shrimp and Crab Larvae” which was co-written by Jonathan, G.E. with Powell, C.B. and Hart, A.I. (1985) on Aquatic Commons, the directory for publications on natural marine, estuarine, brackish and fresh water environments. At this time, the president was still a lowly lecturer in the Department of Biology at the Rivers State College of Education.

In the aforementioned 1985 paper, Jonathan self-references a publication which is in all likelihood, his Master’s dissertation. Titled “Stage 1 larvae of fresh and brackish water decapod crustaceans (excluding Natantlal) of the Niger Delta”, it is however dated 1984, two years earlier than the quoted date which is present in all his official profiles and bios. Further search on Aquatic Commons for the PhD thesis turned up no results whatsoever for the year 1995.

There were a few other conference papers online in the Web of Science journal under the name “G.E. Jonathan”. While it was not possible to determine accurately the identity of the author, they were published in 2003, 2006 and 2010 which would make him (if he were the one) a multitasker and intellectual of the highest order, combining the challenges of governance with the rigours of academic research.

No single academic journal has an online record of his research from 1985 – 1995 when Jonathan should have been very active as an academic scholar, which is why the renewed activity between 2003-2010 when he was in active politics, seems suspect.

“The first person listed is usually the author of the publication and other names are usually those of scholars or senior colleagues in the field, to give the paper weight and attract favourable reviews”, explained the Librarian. ”It is very possible that he did not author those papers.”

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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 2:38pm On Mar 25, 2015
k9ine:
Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: my viewpoint
Sometimes I just sit and wonder how our politicians choose to play politics in this country of ours. In all sincerity, the fears I have about the All Progressives Congress APC as a party, and Gen. Muhammadu Buhari as its presidential candidate are beginning to be confirmed by them. Let it be known that I do not belong to a political party, or engaged to write this up; but it is what my heart has been resonating all this while. I will speak as objectively as I can without hate or prejudice and I want you to see it thus.
All this brouhaha about certificate or no certificate should have been laid to rest a long time ago, but it does appear we have a penchant for deception and very glaring lies which will not make us to think of Nigeria first, but our bellies. Why is it that we like to complicate very simple things of life, obtaining or tendering a copy of certificate is not rocket science, so I wonder why we choose to make it a galactic endeavour.

1. A man submits an application form to INEC, and does not attach supporting docs IRO his academic certifications and deposes to an affidavit that the Secretary of the Army Board is in possession of them. – Who among you does your current/former employer keep their certificates?

2. Sometime in the heat of the controversy generated, the APC tells Nigerians that the regime of Gen. Babangida looted Gen. Buhari’s documents when he (GMB) was overthrown. He and the APC visited IBB at his Hilltop residence and couldn’t smooth talk him into releasing his documents? By this the ruling party will be put to shame.

3. Furthermore, when the Army said it did not have a copy of Buhari’s WASC, but a recommendation letter from Buhari’s principal, the General says he thought all this while the Army Board had them. Immediately, the APC says certificate of no certificate is not the issue and that the Peoples’ Democratic Party (PDP) was scared he was going to defeat their candidate Dr Goodluck Jonathan at the polls, and even recommended that the PDP should go to the court.

4. The General happened to be in the UK for two weeks, during this period and made a presentation at the Chatmam House, The Royal Institute of International Affairs. One wonders why he didn’t go to Cambridge during this period and collect his 1961 WASC, this would have dealt a heavy hammer blow to the PDP and increased his chances at the polls.

5. I wonder why the APC should say that "anyone who will disqualify a presidential candidate on the eve of an election can only have one and only one purpose for that: to trigger chaos and pandemonium across the country”… "This is why we are hoping that good reason will prevail and nothing will be done, deliberately, to plunge Nigeria into crisis… Why would there be chaos, is GMB bigger than Nigeria, he had all the time in the world to present his certificate(s), but didn’t, now they threaten us? If a man is not qualified he is not qualified QED. Why bend the rules for one man, is he different from other contestants? The PDP has gone to court (as advised by the APC) and now they threaten everyone - funny indeed. I pray that the rule of law is upheld and that justice is done.

I want to ask some very disturbing questions.
1. Did GMB sit for his secondary school final exams.
2. Why has Buhari himself never said “I have WASC”, or tendered a certificate? It appears he knows the implications of that which would only strengthen the case of perjury the PDP has brought up against him.
3. What is it that only Buhari is always presented as the presidential candidate? So in the entire APC only the General is fit for this position. There must be something about him only the political caucus know and would use to their advantage and to the Nigeria’s disadvantage.
4. Why has the APC with all the resources and energy that they have committed to defending this no-certificate issue, not directed a little of it to helping Buhari obtain a copy of his certificate? If they did, by now APC would be smiling to the polls.
My conclusion is this, that having objectively looked at this issue, the APC is helping to confirm my fears which I don’t want to be confirmed (because it will further stain the fabric of our national appearance) that – Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd) did not sit for/and or obtain his West African School Certificate (WASC), and this is the ‘banana coat’ (to borrow the language of Chief Zebrudaya) for the APC and GMB which they have dropped on the floor themselves.
Thank you.

God bless you.
God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria, and
May He give us free, fair and peaceful elections. Amen.
- k9ine




This shameful propaganda has convinced me more that Buhari earned my vote.

You guys fail again.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by wirinet(m): 2:51pm On Mar 25, 2015
k9ine:
Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: my viewpoint
Sometimes I just sit and wonder how our politicians choose to play politics in this country of ours. In all sincerity, the fears I have about the All Progressives Congress APC as a party, and Gen. Muhammadu Buhari as its presidential candidate are beginning to be confirmed by them. Let it be known that I do not belong to a political party, or engaged to write this up; but it is what my heart has been resonating all this while. I will speak as objectively as I can without hate or prejudice and I want you to see it thus.
All this brouhaha about certificate or no certificate should have been laid to rest a long time ago, but it does appear we have a penchant for deception and very glaring lies which will not make us to think of Nigeria first, but our bellies. Why is it that we like to complicate very simple things of life, obtaining or tendering a copy of certificate is not rocket science, so I wonder why we choose to make it a galactic endeavour.

You are not objective at all as you are propounding the same arguments put forward by Fani kayode and PDP.
The certificate saga is just a distraction by you and pdp. The constitution is very clear on the minimum academic qualifications of a presidential candidate. It says the minimum academic qualification is School Certificate Level or its equivalent and it went out to list the equivalent of School Certificate level. According to the constitution's definition of school certificate level, 10 years experience as a civil servant with any course lasting more than 6 months is equivalent to Secondary School Certificate level. Even if we assume erroneously that Buhari did not sit for Cambridge WASC exams, he definitely has met the minimum requirements prescribed by the constitution.

Is absurd to insist that someone who rose to become a governor, a minister, a head of state and a General in the Nigerian army is not deemed to have met the minimum qualifications to vie for the president of Nigeria.
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 3:00pm On Mar 25, 2015
TheOtherview:


Well, it is my considered view that GEJ might have committed perjury cheesy
You don't trust Katsina college, I don't trust UNIPORT.

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Earlier post:

It will amount to institutional immolation, if Uniport comes clean on this one.

Anyone ever tried to squeeze blood from a stone?



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You are still deviating from the topic. The requirement was for certificates to be submitted and Jonathan submitted all his certificates to INEC. There is nowhere it is required to submit thesis but certificates.

UNIPORT has issued an official statement declaring Jonathan's certificates as authentic. When will buhari contact Cambridge to do the same for him Since you have no regard for UNIPORT, I believe you will have a lot of respect for Cambridge if they should issue an official statement declaring that they issued WASC to buhari.

Now my question still remains, why is buhari avoiding the Cambridge? Is there leprosy of ebola plague at Cambridge? Even if buhari does not want to visit Cambridge physically, fine and accepted. We are in 2015 and there are modern ways of sending messages using emails and all that. is it that buhari cannot afford a computer or internet connection or what?

WHY IS BUHARI AVOIDING CAMBRIDGE that supposedly issued him a WASC? Jonathan is not avoiding UNIPORT oo. wink grin grin
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 3:01pm On Mar 25, 2015
wirinet:


You are not objective at all as you are propounding the same arguments put forward by Fani kayode and PDP.
The certificate saga is just a distraction by you and pdp. The constitution is very clear on the minimum academic qualifications of a presidential candidate. It says the minimum academic qualification is School Certificate Level or its equivalent and it went out to list the equivalent of School Certificate level. According to the constitution's definition of school certificate level, 10 years experience as a civil servant with any course lasting more than 6 months is equivalent to Secondary School Certificate level. Even if we assume erroneously that Buhari did not sit for Cambridge WASC exams, he definitely has met the minimum requirements prescribed by the constitution.

Is absurd to insist that someone who rose to become a governor, a minister, a head of state and a General in the Nigerian army is not deemed to have met the minimum qualifications to vie for the president of Nigeria.

The simple question is why is it difficult for buhari to contact Cambridge to issue him a certified-true-copy of his original WASC and put this matter to rest once and for all

Is Cambridge not there? he was even in the UK recently to deliver a sermon. grin grin
Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by Nobody: 3:02pm On Mar 25, 2015
CityNG:


This shameful propaganda has convinced me more that Buhari earned my vote.

You guys fail again.

You are a dishonest person.

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Re: Gen. Buhari’s Certificate Matter: My Viewpoint by TheOtherview: 3:10pm On Mar 25, 2015
EUROFIGHTERR:


You are still deviating from the topic. The requirement was for certificates to be submitted and Jonathan submitted all his certificates to INEC. There is nowhere it is required to submit thesis but certificates.

UNIPORT has issued an official statement declaring Jonathan's certificates as authentic. When will buhari contact Cambridge to do the same for him Since you have no regard for UNIPORT, I believe you will have a lot of respect for Cambridge if they should issue an official statement declaring that they issued WASC to buhari.

Now my question still remains, why is buhari avoiding the Cambridge? Is there leprosy of ebola plague at Cambridge? Even if buhari does not want to visit Cambridge physically, fine and accepted. We are in 2015 and there are modern ways of sending messages using emails and all that. is it that buhari cannot afford a computer or internet connection or what?

WHY IS BUHARI AVOIDING CAMBRIDGE that supposedly issued him a WASC? Jonathan is not avoiding UNIPORT oo. wink grin grin

I was only trying to expose your tomfoolery by pointing drawing parallels with UNIPORT's rejection of an FOI request. Get it?

The excerpt provided here, which comes from the OCR website, should serve to reinforce my earlier point on this subject.

Examination centres are required to keep hold of unclaimed certificates for a period of 12 months. So if you took your exams within the last year you should contact the Exams Officer at your school or college to check if they have the original certificates.

Otherwise, you will need to apply for a certifying statement of results (for 14–19 qualifications) or a replacement certificate (for vocational qualifications). The processes are different so please ensure you complete the correct form.

Source: http://www.ocr.org.uk/ocr-for/learners-and-parents/lost-or-incorrect-certificates/

Do you notice that only a certifying statement of result would be supplied for Buhari's WASC?
Is the same document already available in the public domain, courtesy of Katsina College? Absolutely!

Now prove you are graduate and stop scrapping the bottom of the barrel with banal suggestions.

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