You must assemble a team of 3 heroes to take down a bloodlusted, Fully Powered, Red Kryptonite infused Superman. Who do you choose?

Blackeard:
You must assemble a team of 3 heroes to take down a bloodlusted, Fully Powered, Red Kryptonite infused Superman. Who do you choose?

thor, captain america and wolverine

mistytohcute:

thor, captain america and wolverine

hmmm nice choice. They could prolly take him down only that they're not from the same universe. Supes is DC while our dynamic trio are Marvel.

Martian Manhunter,Shazam and Dr Fate

dacza:
Martian Manhunter,Shazam and Dr Fate

Strength, Mind Control, Magic. This could work. But supes has speed. The main threat here would be the Martian Manhunter. Supes without a conscience would take out Dr fate and Shazam very easily.

Well there have been cross covers between universes DC/Marvel. Plus you didn't state it was DC exclusively... Lol I just need an excuse. So I will choose The Sentry from marvel.......The Spectre from DC and Thanos with the infinity gauntlet from marvel(Thanos is an anti-hero mostly. Not really a Hero neither necessarily a villain. But the character is pretty powerful.)

Blackeard:
Strength, Mind Control, Magic. This could work. But supes has speed. The main threat here would be the Martian Manhunter. Supes without a conscience would take out Dr fate and Shazam very easily.

don't 4get Dr fate is the most powerful magician on earth and is way older Dan supes and supes has a weakness 4 magic

TheFury:
Well there have been cross covers between universes DC/Marvel. Plus you didn't state it was DC exclusively... Lol I just need an excuse. So I will choose The Sentry from marvel.......The Spectre from DC and Thanos with the infinity gauntlet from marvel(Thanos is an anti-hero mostly. Not really a Hero neither necessarily a villain. But the character is pretty powerful.)

if we are doing crossovers the sentry is more Dan enough to handle supes or the silver surfer plus d spectre is overkill
P.S thanos is always a villain

dacza:
if we are doing crossovers the sentry is more Dan enough to handle supes or the silver surfer plus d spectre is overkill
P.S thanos is always a villain

You right about the Sentry and Spectre. I actually wanted to put the Silver Surfer in place of Spectre. I thought of Phoenix and Adam Warlock too.
Thanos isnt always a villain. He becomes good or bad based on the given situation at hand. E.g, Thanos' role during the Annihilation Wave and Thanos' battle with Odin. There is always a personal reason for Thanos. He fights for good if it serves him and bad if it serves him. There isn't right or wrong ideals with Thanos. This is why he is more of an anti hero. Even marvel describes him his way.

To make it interesting I won't use any god-tier character and above as calling Thanos, Spectre and the likes would make the battle so short it won't be funny at all.

Wonder woman - She has better fighting skills than superman considering she was trained by the former God of War and is the current one plus Superman has been repeatedly shown to have very little actual fighting skills. Ruthless enough to fight him without holding back and most importantly strong enough to take a couple of hits from him. Another advantage is her magic based weaponry which superman has a weakness for.

Shazam - A very strong character that can go toe to toe with superman at least for a while although doubt it would be the same for a no morals supes. His attacks being magical and his Shazam thunder strike being known to put supes out of commission will help here.

Flash - Well he is fast enough that supes won't be able to touch him so he serves as a distraction to allow the other two have enough breathing space to do their thing. He has also been shown to do a lot of ridiculous things with his speed.

sage1000:
To make it interesting I won't use any god-tier character and above as calling Thanos, Spectre and the likes would make the battle so short it won't be funny at all.

Wonder woman - She has better fighting skills than superman considering she was trained by the former God of War and is the current one plus Superman has been repeatedly shown to have very little actual fighting skills. Ruthless enough to fight him without holding back and most importantly strong enough to take a couple of hits from him. Another advantage is her magic based weaponry which superman has a weakness for.

Shazam - A very strong character that can go toe to toe with superman at least for a while although doubt it would be the same for a no morals supes. His attacks being magical and his Shazam thunder strike being known to put supes out of commission will help here.

Flash - Well he is fast enough that supes won't be able to touch him so he serves as a distraction to allow the other two have enough breathing space to do their thing. He has also been shown to do a lot of ridiculous things with his speed.

Fine team. But they would get beat pretty fast facing "a red kryptoniteinfused-fullypowered-bloodlusted Superman". It would be a slaughter that only flash may get away from.

TheFury:

Fine team. But they would get beat pretty fast facing "a red kryptoniteinfused-fullypowered-bloodlusted Superman". It would be a slaughter that only flash may get away from.

I think you are underestimating them. The fight won't be a slaughter like you are implying as both characters are strong enough to hold up against Superman with flash providing the winning edge as both characters can seriously hurt him with their weapons which are magical and don't forget Wonder woman is the current God of War, daughter of Zeus and as gone toe to toe with Zod and faora who had beaten Superman.

The fight would be long and drawn out but I will give it to my team.

sage1000:


I think you are underestimating them. The fight won't be a slaughter like you are implying as both characters are strong enough to hold up against Superman with flash providing the winning edge as both characters can seriously hurt him with their weapons which are magical and don't forget Wonder woman is the current God of War, daughter of Zeus and as gone toe to toe with Zod and faora who had beaten Superman.

The fight would be long and drawn out but I will give it to my team.

Naa Bru, I am not underestimating them @ all. I know what Shazam, Wonder woman and flash can do. I have seen a fight between Superman and Shazam and one between Wonder woman and Superman. And in both battles Superman had to or was a little overboard with his power. He took a beat real good in both battles. But the problem here is that A fully powered Superman(prolly taken a sun dip or whatever) with NO scruples isn't something any hero No matter how powerful can withstand. Flash isn't a power house, he is a speedstar, he wouldn't be much use in a fight like this-except for providing quick thinking maneuver and trapping Superman in the speed force(which will be a miracle). A battle against the sort of superman described by the OP would require a lot of power(Doomsday sort of power and Darkseid sort of Energy...sadly we dealing with heroes.) The Martian Man hunter would have been a good fit, he was actually created to be stronger than superman and better.(find out) but DC didn't want to loose their "poster boy" so they tamed Man hunter down over the years.

This is one failing DC has. They always made Superman the very best over the years. A character like him shouldn't even be fighting Darkseid not to talk of pitching him against led Luthor. That's why DC brout in Power houses like "Wraith and"He'l" to challenge him. So in a fight like this. Against such a Superman, I am afraid your team would fall.

just The living tribunal

TheFury:


Naa Bru, I am not underestimating them @ all. I know what Shazam, Wonder woman and flash can do. I have seen a fight between Superman and Shazam and one between Wonder woman and Superman. And in both battles Superman had to or was a little overboard with his power. He took a beat real good in both battles. But the problem here is that A fully powered Superman(prolly taken a sun dip or whatever) with NO scruples isn't something any hero No matter how powerful can withstand. Flash isn't a power house, he is a speedstar, he wouldn't be much use in a fight like this-except for providing quick thinking maneuver and trapping Superman in the speed force(which will be a miracle). A battle against the sort of superman described by the OP would require a lot of power(Doomsday sort of power and Darkseid sort of Energy...sadly we dealing with heroes.) The Martian Man hunter would have been a good fit, he was actually created to be stronger than superman and better.(find out) but DC didn't want to loose their "poster boy" so they tamed Man hunter down over the years.

This is one failing DC has. They always made Superman the very best over the years. A character like him shouldn't even be fighting Darkseid not to talk of pitching him against led Luthor. That's why DC brout in Power houses like "Wraith and"He'l" to challenge him. So in a fight like this. Against such a Superman, I am afraid your team would fall.

That is why I put him there. He is to serve as distraction to allow Wonder woman who has a greater tactical ability the chance to stab him or just cut off his head which with her magic blade is possible (she blinded Darkseid with it). Shazam has spells that can and have knocked superman off. I believe that combo should be able to take him

I didn't want to use Martian Manhunter cause I'm not exactly sure of his strength level now and from what I know it is too ridiculous, the only reference I have of him in New 52 is him taking on the entire Justice League. Martian Manhunter is supposedly stupid strong and very old now like 10,000 years old but he hasnt been shown much.
Yeah Superman fighting Darkseid and winning has always annoyed me in the cartoon but in the New 52 I don't think Superman can match Darkseid. It took the entire Justice League to scrape a win against Darkseid in JL and that win was by just managing to push him out and superman was beaten easily in that fight.

I don't get your beef against him fighting Lex Luthor tho

Wraith and H'el are annoying characters and they really suck. They were created to match him but their stories and origins where terrible. Hopefully those 2 characters would never be seen again in comics.

Your team though is Overkill, Spectre alone is enough to absolutely destroy Superman no matter how strong he is, not to talk of Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet. Your characters though are basically Celestial beings.
Can you propose a team of regular superheroes that would be able to beat him?

sage1000:


That is why I put him there. He is to serve as distraction to allow Wonder woman who has a greater tactical ability the chance to stab him or just cut off his head which with her magic blade is possible (she blinded Darkseid with it). Shazam has spells that can and have knocked superman off. I believe that combo should be able to take him

I didn't want to use Martian Manhunter cause I'm not exactly sure of his strength level now and from what I know it is too ridiculous, the only reference I have of him in New 52 is him taking on the entire Justice League. Martian Manhunter is supposedly stupid strong and very old now like 10,000 years old but he hasnt been shown much.
Yeah Superman fighting Darkseid and winning has always annoyed me in the cartoon but in the New 52 I don't think Superman can match Darkseid. It took the entire Justice League to scrape a win against Darkseid in JL and that win was by just managing to push him out and superman was beaten easily in that fight.

I don't get your beef against him fighting Lex Luthor tho

Wraith and H'el are annoying characters and they really suck. They were created to match him but their stories and origins where terrible. Hopefully those 2 characters would never be seen again in comics.

Your team though is Overkill, Spectre alone is enough to absolutely destroy Superman no matter how strong he is, not to talk of Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet. Your characters though are basically Celestial beings.
Can you propose a team of regular superheroes that would be able to beat him?

Naa. Don't have a 'beef' with it. Simply find it ludicrous and annoying that a character with the sort of abilities that superman presents has one of his greatest foes in lex luthor. I only used those sort of characters for my team becos a "fully powered superman without morals" is basically a god. He was created that way. So people like Diana and Shazam with all their power are terribly outmatched by a Superman at the zenith of strength and power. It would take a team of the insanely powerful and bad to beat him. If the OP had said Superman. Regular superman. I would pick Martian Manhunter, Diana and Dr Fate. Or I would pick Thor, Dr Steven Strange and Hulk.....the combinations are almost endless. But if it becomes the Superman of epic power, you need the likes of Sentry, Spectre, Thanos(he wouldnt even need the gauntlet), Silver Surfer, Phoenix, Thor(the Rune king and Odin force version), A very mindless version of Doomsday, Darkseid, Imperix, or an army of over powered Lanterns.

P.S: Wraith and He'l aren't that bad. I just think they are some 20years late with them.

parrotibaba:
just The living tribunal

Hahahahaha habbaaaa! Talk about overkill!

I would choose Batman (because he's BATMAN), The Juggernaut and Apocalypse. Nah, forget Apocalypse, I'll go with Saitama from One Punchman.

Yep. Only Saitama from One Punchman. Forget any backup

TheFury:

Naa. Don't have a 'beef' with it. Simply find it ludicrous and annoying that a character with the sort of abilities that superman presents has one of his greatest foes in lex luthor. I only used those sort of characters for my team becos a "fully powered superman without morals" is basically a god. He was created that way. So people like Diana and Shazam with all their power are terribly outmatched by a Superman at the zenith of strength and power. It would take a team of the insanely powerful and bad to beat him. If the OP had said Superman. Regular superman. I would pick Martian Manhunter, Diana and Dr Fate. Or I would pick Thor, Dr Steven Strange and Hulk.....the combinations are almost endless. But if it becomes the Superman of epic power, you need the likes of Sentry, Spectre, Thanos(he wouldnt even need the gauntlet), Silver Surfer, Phoenix, Thor(the Rune king and Odin force version), A very mindless version of Doomsday, Darkseid, Imperix, or an army of over powered Lanterns.
P.S: Wraith and He'l aren't that bad. I just think they are some 20years late with them.

Lex Luthor is meant to provide a contrast to Superman. The Opposite of him in so many ways and yet still similar. He is the kind of foe if used well does not fight toe to toe with superman but instead attacks him indirectly in areas Superman's ability would be useless. My favorite stories of a Lex done well is Lex Luthor Man of Steel which to me is definitive version of his character and Superman for all Seasons. Its just nowadays lazy writers just put him in a suit and expect him to beat up Superman and that is annoying. He is my favorite villain of all-time.

Nah, you are overestimating him, OP's superman should be around Doomed Superman power level which while is insanely strong isn't Celestial level that level belongs to Superman Prime in DC million. All the characters you mention are just overkill that would oneshot him out of existence if they wished.

kraftykc:

Hahahahaha habbaaaa! Talk about overkill!
I would choose Batman (because he's BATMAN), The Juggernaut and Apocalypse. Nah, forget Apocalypse, I'll go with Saitama from One Punchman.
Yep. Only Saitama from One Punchman. Forget any backup

Yeah Batman sucks and Superman won't even need to use a finger to kill him if he was without morals, that fight would be so hilariously short and as stupid as you told to fight a one year old seriously to the death.

Juggernaut won't pose much of a challenge to Superman, he just isn't at that level, the dude can't even take on regular hulk not to talk of a amped up Superman.

Apocalypse is a character that would pose a bit of a challenge but will ultimately lose.

Saitama won't even be able to touch superman not to talk of punching.

Yeah, so your team would lose to regular superman not to talk of OP's superman.

a bloodlusted superman and some peeps here are calling sentry and shazam to fight him? I can't think of any being that can go against him in a purely physical brawl..the only chance is to ho with reality warpers like the specter or Franklin richard (from marvelverse)... bloodlusted superman really?

sage1000:


Lex Luthor is meant to provide a contrast to Superman. The Opposite of him in so many ways and yet still similar. He is the kind of foe if used well does not fight toe to toe with superman but instead attacks him indirectly in areas Superman's ability would be useless. My favorite stories of a Lex done well is Lex Luthor Man of Steel which to me is definitive version of his character and Superman for all Seasons. Its just nowadays lazy writers just put him in a suit and expect him to beat up Superman and that is annoying. He is my favorite villain of all-time.

Nah, you are overestimating him, OP's superman should be around Doomed Superman power level which while is insanely strong isn't Celestial level that level belongs to Superman Prime in DC million. All the characters you mention are just overkill that would oneshot him out of existence if they wished.



Yeah Batman sucks and Superman won't even need to use a finger to kill him if he was without morals, that fight would be so hilariously short and as stupid as you told to fight a one year old seriously to the death.

Juggernaut won't pose much of a challenge to Superman, he just isn't at that level, the dude can't even take on regular hulk not to talk of a amped up Superman.

Apocalypse is a character that would pose a bit of a challenge but will ultimately lose.

Saitama won't even be able to touch superman not to talk of punching.

Yeah, so your team would lose to regular superman not to talk of OP's superman.

Lol, you obviously don't know Saitama. I chose Bats cos he is the most analytical mind in all cartoon-verse. If there is an opening trust bats to exploit it, I didn't pick any mind controller cos it would be too OP against Silverage Supes who doesn't necessarily have the mental blocks normal Supes does.

Juggernaut is pretty durable but when he goes berserk he is pretty unfvckable.

Dude Saitama...is freaking the epitome of possibility. He is everything a human is physically imagined possible. Is it possible to jump from the moon to the earth, jump about so fast u create after-images? Saitama is actually too OP for Supes here.

sarutobie:
a bloodlusted superman and some peeps here are calling sentry and shazam to fight him? I can't think of any being that can go against him in a purely physical brawl..the only chance is to ho with reality warpers like the specter or Franklin richard (from marvelverse)... bloodlusted superman really?

Dude bloodlusted superman is crazy strong but not that broken in power, no matter how strong supes get, flash is still faster than him, magic will still affect him. Reality warpers are still way out of his league. You guys keep thinking bloodlusted supes is the end of all heroes. he is fucking strong and powerful but can still be taken down. Give flash wonder woman's sword and remove his morals and that fight is over in the blink of an eye. Shazam can knock him out if h gets a direct hit and has proven it on several occasions, I go on about the no of characters that can pose a challenge especially if they work together. For a good example of bloodlusted superman read Superman Doomed where superman basically became doomsday and see the level of power he was throwing about.

kraftykc:

Lol, you obviously don't know Saitama. I chose Bats cos he is the most analytical mind in all cartoon-verse. If there is an opening trust bats to exploit it, I didn't pick any mind controller cos it would be too OP against Silverage Supes who doesn't necessarily have the mental blocks normal Supes does.
Juggernaut is pretty durable but when he goes berserk he is pretty unfvckable.
Dude Saitama...is freaking the epitome of possibility. He is everything a human is physically imagined possible. Is it possible to jump from the moon to the earth, jump about so fast u create after-images? Saitama is actually too OP for Supes here.

Yeah no on the batman front, that guy would be one-shotted so badly his great grand children will still be filling the hit. No tactical genius is going to save you from a no morals superman.

Oh I know saitama, and while that character is stupidly broken, superman would still put him down like the annoying manga character he is. its not a contest. Superman is still faster, stronger and can hit from a distance and that is all that matters.

I've seen berserk Juggernaut and even regular supes will handle him. that is not much of a contest

Everyone is basically going for overkill here, but a regular underpowered team might just work nicely, especially cos they're used to working together. A nice DC team would be,don't laugh, Teen Titans. I'm looking particularly at Beast boy and Raven to take Supes down while the other-Robin/Cyborg i don't care- serves as distraction. Beast boy can transform into any Krptonian of choice while Raven uses the soul-self thing/magic/precognotion combo. Should be fun especially if Raven plays the deadly sin card of pride which a blood lusted Superman could be susceptible to.
For a Marvel team i would pick the Defenders, preferably Dr Strange, Hulk, and Silver Surfer

Blackeard:
You must assemble a team of 3 heroes to take down a bloodlusted, Fully Powered, Red Kryptonite infused Superman. Who do you choose?

Scarlet witch,Jean grey (Pheonix) and Thor.
Superman no go land one punch.

moneyallowed:
Everyone is basically going for overkill here, but a regular underpowered team might just work nicely, especially cos they're used to working together. A nice DC team would be,don't laugh, Teen Titans. I'm looking particularly at Beast boy and Raven to take Supes down while the other-Robin/Cyborg i don't care- serves as distraction. Beast boy can transform into any Krptonian of choice while Raven uses the soul-self thing/magic/precognotion combo. Should be fun especially if Raven plays the deadly sin card of pride which a blood lusted Superman could be susceptible to.
For a Marvel team i would pick the Defenders, preferably Dr Strange, Hulk, and Silver Surfer

Instead of overkill you went straight for the other extreme. There is a reason people are using characters that are durable. Teen titans definitely are not, they could not even stand up to regular Superboy and you want them to fight OP's superman. Raven is the only that might survive and that is by her teleporting back into her demon dimension or whatever.

Your marvel team would definitely work, Hulk distracts while Strange works his magic. Again Silver surfer is overkill.

SIRcumalot:

Scarlet witch,Jean grey (Pheonix) and Thor.
Superman no go land one punch.

I like this team. The powers between Scarlet Witch and Jean grey are exotic enough to affect bring down the dude while Thor serves a tank.

sage1000:


Instead of overkill you went straight for the other extreme.

I hate ridiculously OP characters. They just have to survive long enough to distract him. It could work with some luck. I take your point about Silver Surfer. Namor?

SIRcumalot:

Scarlet witch,Jean grey (Pheonix) and Thor.
Superman no go land one punch.

it has to be DC.

moneyallowed:
Everyone is basically going for overkill here, but a regular underpowered team might just work nicely, especially cos they're used to working together. A nice DC team would be,don't laugh, Teen Titans. I'm looking particularly at Beast boy and Raven to take Supes down while the other-Robin/Cyborg i don't care- serves as distraction. Beast boy can transform into any Krptonian of choice while Raven uses the soul-self thing/magic/precognotion combo. Should be fun especially if Raven plays the deadly sin card of pride which a blood lusted Superman could be susceptible to.
For a Marvel team i would pick the Defenders, preferably Dr Strange, Hulk, and Silver Surfer

lmao r u serious? Teen Titans? The battle would be over before it started.

Blackeard:
it has to be DC.

The spectre,Dr strange and Raven.
Superman still won't land one punch.

SIRcumalot:

The spectre,Dr strange and Raven.
Superman still won't land one punch.

Spectre is overkill
Dr Strange is Marvel
Raven would lose, while her power is weird and magical, she can't stop a superman moving at superspeed to punch her head off.

sage1000:


Spectre is overkill
Dr Strange is Marvel
Raven would lose, while her power is weird and magical, she can't stop a superman moving at superspeed to punch her head off.

What is the name of that DC superhero magic users that is symbol is the ankh ?
That who I was going for.
So spectre is enough to do the job then.

SIRcumalot:

What is the name of that DC superhero magic users that is symbol is the ankh ?
That who I was going for.
So spectre is enough to do the job then.

Dr Fate I think you mean. I remember that dude.

Anyway, if its purely DC I say Prof Ivo's Amazo, The Atom and Martian Manhunter.

Superman is too underwhelming for this match up, there are too many options. Jean Grey, Prof Xavier, Doc Strange would all one-shot him. Rogue would even stand him sef.