₦airaland Forum

ibedun:
Scoring own goals is now the norm for this over-emotional people. They started a civil war with cutlasses and now voted for a president that was swimming against the tide.

Ymodulus:
Sir am sorry to say but you are the biased one here. You should see I stated clearly , my issue with the article. The oba's action have come and go and without doubt he has cleared the air. That aside.

But for a lady coming to spew lies about how her people were murthered for a wrong reason of which will all know ain't true is condemnable. And as such I believe to the bottom of my heart I am not biased but have treated this issue the right way

MugabeRobert:
Are you minding the ungrateful parasites? We gave peace and they paid us back with constant abuse of our traditional values. Can they try half of what they are doing in southwest in the north? Heck, can they insult Emir of Kano the way they did to Kabiyesi?

BraniacX:
Your previous kabiyesi was a gentleman and treated his stool with honour and got well deserved honour in return, this thugish puppet installed by thief.nubu is a pathetic excuse for a kabiyesi and will get the dishonour he gave to his stool in manyfold.

And as for sanusi lamido, I dare him to say something as stupid as what rilwan akiolu said and see whether he won't receive the same dishonour, and that's the difference between the two, sanusi will keep his hatred and bigotry out of public circles and private thereby standing above criticism as you can only suspect him not accuse him, but rilwan...............well, you know the rest

ekiloui:
If this article isn't moved to fp then I'll start doubting this forum. A lot of people need to read this enlightening piece...please do the needful and move the brilliant write up to fp. Thanks

blym4real:
She got it all wrong.

The article is tribalistic and trying to vindicate the actions of the Igbo while adjusting to remain neutral .

Everyone knows the Oba was wrong, but what did she expect from the yoruba leaders if not to calm the Igbo people after condemning the action of the monarch.

ControlX:
Cc Seun Lalastica
ikenna351 afam4eva
Pls do the needful.

davereal:
By "Vindicate the actions of the Igbo" what do you mean?

when
Igbo people were
scapegoated for political
reasons.

Godwin10123:
Obviously u have a problem!

biafranqueen:
Low self esteem has damaged an entire people.

Scatterboss:
I still dont know what you people want. Everyone have condemned the king and some have even apologize and clarify the issue, do you want the head of the king?

You insult him and his throne by calling his father's land a no mans land. Is that fair? If there is any problem in Lagos, you all will troop back to your villages but we indigenes have nowhere to go, stop insulting our forefathers by calling our home no mans land. Respect is reciprocal.

Scatterboss:
You and your people are the one with low self esteem. Is it not a shame that you leave your own house to insult other people and call there land, no mans land. Can you try it in the North? Are you the only tribe in Lagos. Why are the Hauss not calling it no mans land. You guys should learn to thread carefully, the Yorubas silence and humility is not cowardice.

Enough is enough.

blym4real:
She got it all wrong.

The article is tribalistic and trying to vindicate the actions of the Igbo while adjusting to remain neutral .

Everyone knows the Oba was wrong, but what did she expect from the yoruba leaders if not to calm the Igbo people after condemning the action of the monarch.

Ymodulus:
I think I will start by trying to be Anthropomorphic, as it will bet express my heading.
Its really sad when insanity realizes that he has a mental disorder then he is as good as cured. The moment a people come to terms with their complex problem which often place them at loggerheads with their host communities the better for them.

I seem not to fathom how a tribe claim to have suffered humiliations and deprivation from other ethnic nationalities. This allegation should be consider very weighty even though it was not substantiated. Nonetheless, this aggrieved ethnic nationality needs to ask herself what is about it that could be responsible for the purported hostile acts of other ethnic nationalities toward it.

One problem I have with Chimanda is all her articles tends to quote Chinua Achebe, even when its evident chinua actions are wrong. The sane mistake she made, about his book "there was a country". Now she is trying to say that the Igbo's were murdered in early 1960's for political reasons? Who started the war? Was it the Nigerian Arny or The late Ojukwu ? I see Chimabda is biased. And she is just a staunt re-echoer of Chinua Achebe's belief.


I liked the fact that she related the massacre of the Ibos in different parts of the country before the civil war. However what I do like to ask her is this,

1. chimanda was there nothing that led to the massacre?

You can't deny that the tendency to dominate in another man's land which is being exhibited now by taking the Oba to court is what led to such. Tell me when you come back from court if the people of Lagos will still have a good relationship with the Ibos.


Chimanda while trying to play a neutral ground at the surface, is been biased deep down. I am sorry to say but if Chimanda spent her time writing this, she wasted that time. As this just further lowered NY respect for her as an internationally recognised writer. Novel is her thing not politics.

Just imagine how shez is spreading lies about 1960s massacre. Posterity Judge you.

OdenigboAroli:
This sound exactly like the tout of a man you fools call oba. Like father like children.
And yea,with cutlass we fought Nigeria and their masters for long torturous 30months. By the way,try to evict fulani from Kwara...lol

VirginFinder:
Most ibo Nairalanders are semi-literate just like you.
I cant fathom why.
It's 'curse' not 'course'.

@OP ibos should stick to their business and stay out of our local politics.
Any attempt to dabble into it will spell doom as we can all see.
That's all!

Descartes:
Oops!! Errors too many.

Ymodulus:
I think I will start by trying to be Anthropomorphic, as it will bet express my heading.
Its really sad when insanity realizes that he has a mental disorder then he is as good as cured. The moment a people come to terms with their complex problem which often place them at loggerheads with their host communities the better for them.

I seem not to fathom how a tribe claim to have suffered humiliations and deprivation from other ethnic nationalities. This allegation should be consider very weighty even though it was not substantiated. Nonetheless, this aggrieved ethnic nationality needs to ask herself what is about it that could be responsible for the purported hostile acts of other ethnic nationalities toward it.

One problem I have with Chimanda is all her articles tends to quote Chinua Achebe, even when its evident chinua actions are wrong. The sane mistake she made, about his book "there was a country". Now she is trying to say that the Igbo's were murdered in early 1960's for political reasons? Who started the war? Was it the Nigerian Arny or The late Ojukwu ? I see Chimabda is biased. And she is just a staunt re-echoer of Chinua Achebe's belief.


I liked the fact that she related the massacre of the Ibos in different parts of the country before the civil war. However what I do like to ask her is this,

1. chimanda was there nothing that led to the massacre?

You can't deny that the tendency to dominate in another man's land which is being exhibited now by taking the Oba to court is what led to such. Tell me when you come back from court if the people of Lagos will still have a good relationship with the Ibos.


Chimanda while trying to play a neutral ground at the surface, is been biased deep down. I am sorry to say but if Chimanda spent her time writing this, she wasted that time. As this just further lowered NY respect for her as an internationally recognised writer. Novel is her thing not politics.

Just imagine how shez is spreading lies about 1960s massacre. Posterity Judge you.

Descartes:
I bet you, if any Igboman is hurt in any Yoruba state especially in Lagos,your "thugish" Oba will be arrested by the International community and get prosecuted in Hague. No amount of Falanas will save his sorry ass. Just get that in your skull.

Descartes:
I bet you, if any Igboman is hurt in any Yoruba state especially in Lagos,your "thugish" Oba will be arrested by the International community and get prosecuted in Hague. No amount of Falanas will save his sorry ass. Just get that in your skull.

tollu:
We are still on "My People" "Your People".

Article is tribalistic from where I'm sitting.

ControlX:
A few days ago, the Oba of Lagos threatened Igbo leaders. If they did not vote for his governorship candidate in Lagos, he said, they would be thrown into the lagoon. His entire speech was a flagrant performance of disregard. His words said, in effect: I think so little of you that I don’t have to cajole you but will just threaten you and, by the way, your safety in Lagos is not assured, it is negotiable.
There have been condemnations of the Oba’s words. Sadly, many of the condemnations from non-Igbo people have come with the ugly impatience of expressions like ‘move on,’ and ‘don’t be over-emotional’ and ‘calm down.’ These take away the power, even the sincerity, of the condemnations. It is highhanded and offensive to tell an aggrieved person how to feel, or how quickly to forgive, just as an apology becomes a non-apology when it comes with ‘now get over it.’
Other condemnations of the Oba’s words have been couched in dismissive or diminishing language such as ‘The Oba can’t really do anything, he isn’t actually going to kill anyone. He was joking. He was just being a loudmouth.’
Or – the basest yet – ‘we are all prejudiced.’ It is dishonest to respond to a specific act of prejudice by ignoring that act and instead stressing the generic and the general. It is similar to responding to a specific crime by saying ‘we are all capable of crime.’ Indeed we are. But responses such as these are diversionary tactics. They dismiss the specific act, diminish its importance, and ultimately aim at silencing the legitimate fears of people.
We are indeed all prejudiced, but that is not an appropriate response to an issue this serious. The Oba is not an ordinary citizen. He is a traditional ruler in a part of a country where traditional rulers command considerable influence – the reluctance on the part of many to directly chastise the Oba speaks to his power. The Oba’s words matter. He is not a singular voice; he represents traditional authority. The Oba’s words matter because they are enough to incite violence in a political setting already fraught with uncertainty. The Oba’s words matter even more in the event that Ambode loses the governorship election, because it would then be easy to scapegoat Igbo people and hold them punishable.
Nigerians who consider themselves enlightened might dismiss the Oba’s words as illogical. But the scapegoating of groups – which has a long history all over the world – has never been about logic. The Oba’s words matter because they bring worrying echoes of the early 1960s in Nigeria, when Igbo people were scapegoated for political reasons. Chinua Achebe, when he finally accepted that Lagos, the city he called home, was unsafe for him because he was Igbo, saw crowds at the motor park taunting Igbo people as they boarded buses: ‘Go, Igbo, go so that garri will be cheaper in Lagos!’
Of course Igbo people were not responsible for the cost of garri. But they were perceived as people who were responsible for a coup and who were ‘taking over’ and who, consequently, could be held responsible for everything bad.
Any group of people would understandably be troubled by a threat such as the Oba’s, but the Igbo, because of their history in Nigeria, have been particularly troubled. And it is a recent history. There are people alive today who were publicly attacked in cosmopolitan Lagos in the 1960s because they were Igbo. Even people who were merely light-skinned were at risk of violence in Lagos markets, because to be light-skinned was to be mistaken for Igbo.
Almost every Nigerian ethnic group has a grouse of some sort with the Nigerian state. The Nigerian state has, by turns, been violent, unfair, neglectful, of different parts of the country. Almost every ethnic group has derogatory stereotypes attached to it by other ethnic groups.
But it is disingenuous to suggest that the experience of every ethnic group has been the same. Anti-Igbo violence began under the British colonial government, with complex roots and manifestations. But the end result is a certain psychic difference in the relationship of Igbo people to the Nigerian state. To be Igbo in Nigeria is constantly to be suspect; your national patriotism is never taken as the norm, you are continually expected to prove it.
All groups are conditioned by their specific histories. Perhaps another ethnic group would have reacted with less concern to the Oba’s threat, because that ethnic group would not be conditioned by a history of being targets of violence, as the Igbo have been.
Many responses to the Oba’s threat have mentioned the ‘welcoming’ nature of Lagos, and have made comparisons between Lagos and southeastern towns like Onitsha. It is valid to debate the ethnic diversity of different parts of Nigeria, to compare, for example, Ibadan and Enugu, Ado-Ekiti and Aba, and to debate who moves where, and who feels comfortable living where and why that is. But it is odd to pretend that Lagos is like any other city in Nigeria. It is not. The political history of Lagos and its development as the first national capital set it apart. Lagos is Nigeria’s metropolis. There are ethnic Igbo people whose entire lives have been spent in Lagos, who have little or no ties to the southeast, who speak Yoruba better than Igbo. Should they, too, be reminded to be ‘grateful’ each time an election draws near?
No law-abiding Nigerian should be expected to show gratitude for living peacefully in any part of Nigeria. Landlords in Lagos should not, as still happens too often, be able to refuse to rent their property to Igbo people.
The Oba’s words were disturbing, but its context is even more disturbing:
The anti-Igbo rhetoric that has been part of the political discourse since the presidential election results. Accusatory and derogatory language – using words like ‘brainwashed,’ ‘tribalistic voting’ – has been used to describe President Jonathan’s overwhelming win in the southeast. All democracies have regions that vote in large numbers for one side, and even though parts of Northern Nigeria showed voting patterns similar to the Southeast, the opprobrium has been reserved for the Southeast.
But the rhetoric is about more than mere voting. It is really about citizenship. To be so entitled as to question the legitimacy of a people’s choice in a democratic election is not only a sign of disrespect but is also a questioning of the full citizenship of those people.
What does it mean to be a Nigerian citizen?
When Igbo people are urged to be ‘grateful’ for being in Lagos, do they somehow have less of a right as citizens to live where they live? Every Nigerian should be able to live in any part of Nigeria. The only expectation for a Nigerian citizen living in any part of Nigeria is to be law-abiding. Not to be ‘grateful.’ Not to be expected to pay back some sort of unspoken favour by toeing a particular political line. Nigerian citizens can vote for whomever they choose, and should never be expected to justify or apologize for their choice.
Only by feeling a collective sense of ownership of Nigeria can we start to forge a nation. A nation is an idea. Nigeria is still in progress. To make this a nation, we must collectively agree on what citizenship means: all Nigerians must matter equally.

Source:
www.olisa.tv/2015/04/10/chimamanda-adichieoba-lagos/

realjoker:
well said
please let all stop this religious and tribal hatred we are all one, i know there is still a long way to go.
let call a spade a spade it is not proper to call Lagos a know mans land and No law-abiding Nigerian should be expected to show
gratitude for living peacefully in any part of Nigeria.

ideykwum:
Did you expect her to deny her ethnicity to satisfy your appetite for neutrality in the face of public opprobrium directed to her ethnic group? Where is so-called "neutral" Wole Soyinka, known for his long words and criticism of social ill? Suddenly, the bard has developed sore throat! How convenient!

ideykwum:
Do you know how many Igbos there are in Lagos? How many called Lagos a "No man's land"? People repeat tribal quotes with a zany regularity that it appears to be the truth! I guess the logic is to repeat it long enough, and it would stick!