₦airaland Forum

Ymodulus:
I think I will start by trying to be Anthropomorphic, as it will bet express my heading.
Its really sad when insanity realizes that he has a mental disorder then he is as good as cured. The moment a people come to terms with their complex problem which often place them at loggerheads with their host communities the better for them.

I seem not to fathom how a tribe claim to have suffered humiliations and deprivation from other ethnic nationalities. This allegation should be consider very weighty even though it was not substantiated. Nonetheless, this aggrieved ethnic nationality needs to ask herself what is about it that could be responsible for the purported hostile acts of other ethnic nationalities toward it.

One problem I have with Chimanda is all her articles tends to quote Chinua Achebe, even when its evident chinua actions are wrong. The sane mistake she made, about his book "there was a country". Now she is trying to say that the Igbo's were murdered in early 1960's for political reasons? Who started the war? Was it the Nigerian Arny or The late Ojukwu ? I see Chimabda is biased. And she is just a staunt re-echoer of Chinua Achebe's belief.


I liked the fact that she related the massacre of the Ibos in different parts of the country before the civil war. However what I do like to ask her is this,

1. chimanda was there nothing that led to the massacre?

You can't deny that the tendency to dominate in another man's land which is being exhibited now by taking the Oba to court is what led to such. Tell me when you come back from court if the people of Lagos will still have a good relationship with the Ibos.


Chimanda while trying to play a neutral ground at the surface, is been biased deep down. I am sorry to say but if Chimanda spent her time writing this, she wasted that time. As this just further lowered NY respect for her as an internationally recognised writer. Novel is her thing not politics.

Just imagine how shez is spreading lies about 1960s massacre. Posterity Judge you.

So If I understand properly you are saying that any tribe that tried to dominate in another man's land should be lynched??...The one thing people tend to forget is that the igbo nation is on people that always tries to be the best in whatever they do regardless of where they are...I was watching a documentary from china on NTA and about Nigerians abroad and It showed a lot of IGBO's over there that owned a lot of companies and even employed chinese citizens to work for them..In that documentary I saw igbo men married to Chinese women and they can even speak the language fluently, In one of the companies,an Igbo man has more than 100 chinese workers working for him.....So what I am trying to say in essense is that igbos are proud people naturally and the amount of hate I;ve seen here is in no way what is obtained in the street..

Here in abj my best friend of ten years is yoruba and I am more than welcome whenever I go to their house...His mom loves me like his own son and my dad loves him too....I am yet to step my foot in lagos but what I am seeing here is making me wonder if he is different from the rest and I can tell that it is not all yorubas that hates igbos..When I was in enugu I saw a lot of hausa men that deals on gold and exchange of dollars living lavishly,driving fancy cars and we see them and appreciate them.. We don't hate on them in any way and we coexist very well with mutual respect that is grounded on the basis that they are law abiding and pay their taxes...You should also go read the reason behind the civil war...Igbos were massacred massively in the north and the then govt did nothing to stop the violence..Not even a public condemnation or call his brothers back to order...You guys should stop this igbo phobia...We don't give f*ck if you buy all the properties in igbo land once you can afford it..

ehie:
@ chidima's article.its nothing new.its still the same victim mentality packaged differently. Let's go back into the history Igbo love some much
1.Nzeogwu murdered the prime minister and president. The Igbo leaders were spared.
2.agunyi irons an Igbo was installed nzegwu was given paddy paddy justice.
3.igbos taunted hausas in kano wearing t shirts and even made songs at the coup.
All these led to anti Igbo feelings and then the declaration by ojukwu.
The murder of balewa was the catalyst for what could have been avoided.in all my years j have never had Igbo take responsibility for the first coup and own up that if neo wu hadn't killed the leaders all these wouldn't have happened. I belive prior to the barbaric act Igbo lived peacefully in northern Nigeria for decades and since that incident it hasn't been the same. No one cannot give the Igbo peace if they continually lie to themselves. Like they say the truth shall set you free.you guys choose to Iive in your warped reality of life.its your choice really.we cannot help you until you help u r self. .

and all these rubbish you wrote is why oba of lagos is having dyorrhea of the mouth?

This is the kind of thoughts, words and actions that breed hate and contempt.

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Now to the topic....
I think what binds many tribes in Nigeria is a common hatred for the Igbos. This hatred i believe is hinged on the purported dominance of Igbos. What is it about Igbo dominance? Here is what a fellow nairalander has to say...

Great point. Fear of Igbo domination as my father
would say is a sign of weakness on the part of
the fearer and lack of confidence in their ability. In
other words, for someone to dominate you in a
non physical way whether economically, socially, educationally, in any way, shape and form as long
as they are not holding you hostage physically
from succeeding but solely by intelligence in a
level playing field, then the conclusion is that
person or group of people are smarter than
you...this has been scientifically proven. So any tribe that fears Igbo domination are less smarter
than the Igbos otherwise compete with them. The
reason why Igbos do better in everything that
they do, which is often mistaken as domination is
because they are smarter than the rest of other
ethnic groups in Nigeria. When I mean "smarter" I
don't mean individually as a Hausa man can be
smarter than a yoruba, yoruba smarter than an
ijaw man an ijaw may be smarter than an Igbo,
e.t.c., however as a whole in terms of an ethnic
group, the Igbos lead the pack in Nigeria and
some tribes see it as a domination but actually it
isn't...they are just more smarter and have more
drive than others. Dr. Thomas Sowell detailed this
in his book and actually mentions Igbos as the
most successful ethnic group in Nigeria despite
the civil war set back.

If Nigeria wants to be truly great, we should not trifle with any tribe, especially the Igbos.

whytepawn1:
how grounded are you in the history of this country??,
have you ever bothered to see the war from the Ibo
point of view? . don't just write down whatever comes
to your head..

I know no igbo would want to talk about the reason/origin of the massacre in the north. Sentiment apart, reality, Igbos planted the seed that germinated into the massacre and the consistent hatred suffered.

The Hausa/Fulani felt betrayed by the "smartness" of the Igbos in attempting to preserve their "statesmen" while the Hausa/Fulani in all "foolishness" killed their own illustrious sons in line with the agreement reached from all sections of the country. Alas! the ibos play the usual smartness and tribalistic tendency. So worst, that the North even allowed Emeka Nzogu to kill the revered Sardauna who brought him up. The north made the sacrifice but igbos betrayed the arrangement.

At the end of the coup, it was then cleared that the North had been fooled by the so call "smart" race.
With this impression in the heart of Hausa/Fulani, an ending era of hatred, hostility and killing was birthed....and as if history had been erased they cry cry cry cry.......

Crueldeed:
Decibel, you are a fool just like the idi.ot called Obi of onitsha. why are you attacking him for airing his views,idiotic slowpoke like you hide behind stolen laptop to post rubbish. Fool

If e pain you, do somersault and die!

anyway Bleep igbos

ehie:
@ chidima's article.its nothing new.its still the same victim mentality packaged differently. Let's go back into the history Igbo love some much
1.Nzeogwu murdered the prime minister and president. The Igbo leaders were spared.
2.agunyi irons an Igbo was installed nzegwu was given paddy paddy justice.
3.igbos taunted hausas in kano wearing t shirts and even made songs at the coup.
All these led to anti Igbo feelings and then the declaration by ojukwu.
The murder of balewa was the catalyst for what could have been avoided.in all my years j have never had Igbo take responsibility for the first coup and own up that if neo wu hadn't killed the leaders all these wouldn't have happened. I belive prior to the barbaric act Igbo lived peacefully in northern Nigeria for decades and since that incident it hasn't been the same. No one cannot give the Igbo peace if they continually lie to themselves. Like they say the truth shall set you free.you guys choose to Iive in your warped reality of life.its your choice really.we cannot help you until you help u r self. .

According to many Nigerians, Nzeogwu is a "deltan" he's not Igbo, he could be Ika.

Come o, una no dey vote?

OreMI22:
[size=13pt]My concern with the Igbo youths of today is they are too nice or too naive.

If Yoruba threatens violence, they should not only secretly prepare to inflict heavy casualty on anyone who dares to attack them in Lagos, but should also quietly track where Yorubas live in Enugu,Onitsha,Asaba,Port Harcourt or Aba and simply keep quiet and wait for action time.

Since they started the principle of reciprocity against northerners in the south for every riot in the north, anti- Igbo riots in the north have become rarer.[/size]

With this write-up you are threading a very dangerous path by inciting people to violence.

Let me ask you, if what you are insinuating actually happens (God forbid) who do you think will bear the brunt of it, the Yoruba or the Igbo?

Never, I repeat, never incite people to violence (which will only reduce you to the level of the Oba you are vilifying), it's an ill wind that blows nobody any good.

sammhi:
the oba was not speaking to the igbos alone but by extension his kinsmen the yorubas..we might look at it that he is speaking to igbos alone....no way he is also telling the yorubas not to vote Agbaje but his chosen one.
in any case the Oba has shown that he is part of the enslavement of lagosians

and being a typical coward, he chose an igbo audience to rant to?

Ymodulus:
First I replied you cause of all people who quoted me, you alone did not result into throwing insults. I appreciate that.


Now bro, what was the real reason of the Biafra war ? Let's tackle things with honesty

Lol... I don't believe in insults neither do I believe in violence.... anyway to give you a reply...
the web is rich with the history and occurrences that led to the civil war... I only ask that you consider both part of the argument before reaching a conclusion. Though I believe that a lot was and have been left unsaid concerning the war. in essence, the pogrom in the north and other parts and the treatment meted out to ndi Ibo by the then government is and continues to be a bitter pill to swallow.

OdenigboAroli2:
and all these rubbish you wrote is why oba of lagos is having dyorrhea of the mouth?

don't deflect ..reflect. obas statement is not a problem but a reaction of issues intertwined together.

valHarrison:
for ur information, nigerian army started the war not ojukwu

help3852:
Ymodulus am very disappointed, did ojukwo just stand up and said he was going for war, what led to his decision

stop this sentiments, Nigeria was merged for selfish reasons, 100years down the line even when the colonial masters have gone the selfish reasons are still being practiced esp by yorubas

The Nigerian Civil War, between the self-declared secessionist nation of Biafra and the independent nation of Nigeria, began on 30 May 1967 and ended on 12 January 1970. Though there were complex multiple causes, the primary cause, as reflected in a statement made by the Igbo Eastern Military Governor, Lieutenant Colonel Chukumeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, was interethnic domination: "The brutal and planned annihilation of officers of Eastern Nigeria origin had cast serious doubt as to whether they could ever sincerely live together as members of a nation" (Ojiako qtd. by The Daily Independent). To compound the underlying ethnic hostilities, a controversial census in 1963, a disputed postindependence election in 1964, and explosive western regional elections in 1965 worsened hostilities, deepened secessionist agitations and triggered first military coup on 15 January 1966, led by Igbo (eastern region) Major Chukwuma "Kaduna" Nzeogwu. Though Nzeogwu's coup killed Nigerian Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa the Sarduana* of Sokoto, Sir Ahmadu Bello, no Eastern Igbos were killed, a fact that triggered the accusation that the coup was not political but rather ethnic and that the Igbos of the east were aiming for ethnic domination over north and south [*the Sarduana, a tribalist leader, opposed "emerging cosmopolitan, federal and democratic conscious" epitomized by the "new generation of Northerners" in favor of tribal traditions and structures (Okechukwu Jones Asuzu, The Politics of Being Nigerian)]. Later in 1966, a countercoup led by Igbo Major-General Johnson Umunakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi abolished the federal structure and introduced a unitary system of government in Nigeria: a unitary form has one central decision making power, with decisions communicated to and implemented by regional and local authorities (in comparison, the US is a federalist republic government while the UK is a unitary government). A "revenge coup" on 29 July 1966 resulted in the assassination of Major-General Aguiyi-Ironsi at Ibadan putting an end to his unitary government.

- BBC , ENUQoutes

MugabeRobert:
Are you minding the ungrateful parasites? We gave peace and they paid us back with constant abuse of our traditional values. Can they try half of what they are doing in southwest in the north? Heck, can they insult Emir of Kano the way they did to Kabiyesi?

I am not igbo, but the real question is whether an Emire will make such a statement. Respect is reciprocal. The Oba goofed, big deal, sadly he is not the first neither will he be the last to make such inciting or incendiary statements. Even though his position will not allow him apologize, the rest of us should just move on rather than try to justify or condemn what he has said

OdenigboAroli2:
and all these rubbish you wrote is why oba of lagos is having dyorrhea of the mouth?

Thats the problem. Face the issue raised above and don't deviate. Accept it or not those few actions above birthed an era and era of hate, hostility and massacre of the Igbos especially in the North.

Must Chimamanda always take us back to the civil war?
Every writeup of hers must make endless reference to a civil war she did not witness.
Why drag us back all the time?
While we do not support the Oba's call, all other writings that seeks to divide or emphasize our ethnic roots is just as bad.
Please allow Nigeria to move on.
Thank you.

jogojogo:
I know no igbo would want to talk about the reason/origin of the massacre in the north. Sentiment apart, reality, Igbos planted the seed that germinated into the massacre and the consistent hatred suffered.

The Hausa/Fulani felt betrayed by the "smartness" of the Igbos in attempting to preserve their "statesmen" while the Hausa/Fulani in all "foolishness" killed their own illustrious sons in line with the agreement reached from all sections of the country. Alas! the ibos play the usual smartness and tribalistic tendency. So worst, that the North even allowed Emeka Nzogu to kill the revered Sardauna who brought him up. The north made the sacrifice but igbos betrayed the arrangement.

At the end of the coup, it was then cleared that the North had been fooled by the so call "smart" race.
With this impression in the heart of Hausa/Fulani, an ending era of hatred, hostility and killing was birthed....and as if history had been erased they cry cry cry cry.......

as the oba is crying today, the igbos are still out smarting everyone without ruling this nonsensical nation

iconize:
According to many Nigerians, Nzeogwu is a "deltan" he's not Igbo, he could be Ika.

you are denying nzegwu when irons I and ojukwu saw him as one of their own.he died fighting for biafra but he is deltan now...smfdh. .. i guess i can't fathom how you think because i am always ready to do the time if i do the crime

Ymodulus:
I think I will start by trying to be Anthropomorphic, as it will bet express my heading.
Its really sad when insanity realizes that he has a mental disorder then he is as good as cured. The moment a people come to terms with their complex problem which often place them at loggerheads with their host communities the better for them.

I seem not to fathom how a tribe claim to have suffered humiliations and deprivation from other ethnic nationalities. This allegation should be consider very weighty even though it was not substantiated. Nonetheless, this aggrieved ethnic nationality needs to ask herself what is about it that could be responsible for the purported hostile acts of other ethnic nationalities toward it.

One problem I have with Chimanda is all her articles tends to quote Chinua Achebe, even when its evident chinua actions are wrong. The sane mistake she made, about his book "there was a country". Now she is trying to say that the Igbo's were murdered in early 1960's for political reasons? Who started the war? Was it the Nigerian Arny or The late Ojukwu ? I see Chimabda is biased. And she is just a staunt re-echoer of Chinua Achebe's belief.


I liked the fact that she related the massacre of the Ibos in different parts of the country before the civil war. However what I do like to ask her is this,

1. chimanda was there nothing that led to the massacre?

You can't deny that the tendency to dominate in another man's land which is being exhibited now by taking the Oba to court is what led to such. Tell me when you come back from court if the people of Lagos will still have a good relationship with the Ibos.


Chimanda while trying to play a neutral ground at the surface, is been biased deep down. I am sorry to say but if Chimanda spent her time writing this, she wasted that time. As this just further lowered NY respect for her as an internationally recognised writer. Novel is her thing not politics.

Just imagine how shez is spreading lies about 1960s massacre. Posterity Judge you.

Tune in to RADIO BIAFRA and have yourself EDUCATED.

Sanchez01:
I religiously followed Chinua Achebe was a man I saw as the broken link between the Igbos and other ethnic tribes. I revered him and his works not until he wrote "There was a country". The so-called autobiography was uncalled for as it described what Achebe had nursed over the years. I saw him as someone who cared less about critics and only wanted to write to finally lay claims that he has not forgotten the struggle of his people. I could remember Wole Soyinka said the book was uncalled for as well and it was 'shocking' his good friend could round off his hard work with a disturbing autobiography.

As if that was not enough, Ngozi Chimamanda Adichie wrote "Half of a Yellow Sun" and the movie adaptation clearly revealed that a young lady who was obviously not born during the war managed to write a 'detailed' epistle of the war. I could remember I submitted a review saying "This movie and the book should not have existed". Being a sensitive fellow, I cried at some point in the movie and I thought "how would an Igbo man react to the movie?"

I've never been a fan of Ngozi Chimamanda Adichie and I was obviously not disappointed at the bigot adaptation, rather I blame Chinua Achebe for this. But like Chimamanda started with in this article, we're all born with prejudices. True, we might be born with them but we should be able to live above it. If people around Chimamanda cannot make her forget or shove aside the words of a disgruntled Oba, then she should take to the streets with whoever to protest. We're way past this issue. NCA is relevant and is already a giant in the literature sphere but thinking this piece would make her more relevant is saying black when an object is obviously white.

Thank you sooo much. The movie Half of a yellow sun were marred with inconsistency.

Reading Chinua's last book you do find out that it was totally uncalled for, filled with lies. I wonder how such a writer should be that biased. Chimanda now toes his path and keep on going biased, now rather than some people seeing this and calling it facts they still deny it.

jogojogo:
Thats the problem. Face the issue raised above and don't deviate. Accept it or not those few actions above birthed an era and era of hate, hostility and massacre of the Igbos especially in the North.

and after 50 years and nzeogwu death, the igbos are still causing you pain, you have a permanent problem.

BuddahMonk:
Nigeria is not a country, here is just a battleground for ethnic and tribal supremacy.

North voted Buhari they are reasonable voters.
East voted Jonathan they are tribalist.
The vultures are always in the middle

That is just it brother.You nailed it by speaking my mind.God bless you well.

Mstchewwwww

Let me answer your question to how a Nigerian Igbo guy feels reading half of a yellow sun:

Like he needs to work god damn hard, shikena.

All this wailing of yours is disgusting to read

Sanchez01:
I religiously followed Chinua Achebe was a man I saw as the broken link between the Igbos and other ethnic tribes. I revered him and his works not until he wrote "There was a country". The so-called autobiography was uncalled for as it described what Achebe had nursed over the years. I saw him as someone who cared less about critics and only wanted to write to finally lay claims that he has not forgotten the struggle of his people. I could remember Wole Soyinka said the book was uncalled for as well and it was 'shocking' his good friend could round off his hard work with a disturbing autobiography.

As if that was not enough, Ngozi Chimamanda Adichie wrote "Half of a Yellow Sun" and the movie adaptation clearly revealed that a young lady who was obviously not born during the war managed to write a 'detailed' epistle of the war. I could remember I submitted a review saying "This movie and the book should not have existed". Being a sensitive fellow, I cried at some point in the movie and I thought "how would an Igbo man react to the movie?"

I've never been a fan of Ngozi Chimamanda Adichie and I was obviously not disappointed at the bigot adaptation, rather I blame Chinua Achebe for this. But like Chimamanda started with in this article, we're all born with prejudices. True, we might be born with them but we should be able to live above it. If people around Chimamanda cannot make her forget or shove aside the words of a disgruntled Oba, then she should take to the streets with whoever to protest. We're way past this issue. NCA is relevant and is already a giant in the literature sphere but thinking this piece would make her more relevant is saying black when an object is obviously white.

ehie:
you are denying nzegwu when irons I and ojukwu saw him as one of their own.he died fighting for biography but he is deltan now...smfdh. .. i guess i can't fathom how you think because i am always ready to do the time if i do the crime

nzeogwu died fighting for biography

Darlduchi:
Tune in to RADIO BIAFRA and have yourself EDUCATED.

You don't expect a marketer of a bank to tell me his bank is bad. No rather he says its the best. Give me a neutral source to listen too. Man I don't have to listen to radio BIAFRA.

Are you aware radio Biafra have been inciting emotional hatred or recent?

skyra:
I am not igbo, but the real question is whether an Emire will make such a statement. Respect is reciprocal. The Oba goofed, big deal, sadly he is not the first neither will he be the last to make such inciting or incendiary statements. Even though his position will not allow him apologize, the rest of us should just move on rather than try to justify or condemn what he has said

The head of caliphate in the North has made a worst statement and no wave/tension generated. No one dragged him to court.
Such comments are unwholesome and wrong but the noise, ripple and tension is uncalled for. Igbos are consistently killed elsewhere and the noise and fight back is not measurable to the case on ground.

Ymodulus:
Thank you sooo much. The movie Half of a yellow sun were marred with inconsistency.

Reading Chinua's last book you do find out that it was totally uncalled for, filled with lies. I wonder how such a writer should be that biased. Chimanda now toes his path and keep on going biased, now rather than some people seeing this and calling it facts they still deny it.

is Chimamanda more biased than the oba of lagos?

OdenigboAroli2:
nzeogwu died fighting for biography

biafra

maajin007:
ibos should know they are not the only tribe in Lagos.The ibo should do check up on their society .Why did other ethnic group distaste them .Y are they alone?

FYI we distaste you twice as much as you do us. As for the reasons for your distaste? We are simply destined for greatness which is why after all we went through during the war Ndigbo have the highest GDP per person in this country while the hausas are the poorest even though they have ruled the country for nearly fifty years. And as for the Yorubas they simply can't stomach the ingenuity of the igbo man and that is what is responsible for their bitter bile.

Meanwhile who God bless no man can curse!

francizy:
You should also ask yourself these questions:

[b]1 [/b]Has there ever been a time after the civil war that a truck load of dead Yoruba people were moved from SE to SW for burial?

Have we not accommodated the Yorubas in our lands, although they aren't that large compared to Igbos in SW?

Haven't you heard of cases were a truck load of dead bodies were brought into the SW from the north?

Have we caused you trouble as our host? Did we rise up in arms against you, like some tribe(s) did in Jos? Have we ever come out en masse to murder/maim the Yorubas in Lagos?

Has the Igbos not paid their dues? Did we disrupt any Yoruba businesses or damaged any Yoruba properties?

If you've asked and answered all these questions, then you can ask yourself this one too..

Then why the hate speech?

1 l know someone will bring up the civil war ish. How has the fact that the insignificant numbers of SWesterners in the East are in peace justify the turmoil you pole cause down in the West. Yorubas are quite respectful andthey know how to keep a level-head where

OdenigboAroli:
I am sorry I insulted your people but that is the state of my mind. A royal father shouldn't be engaged in partisan politics,how much more threatening an entire tribe of over 30million people with death! No Nigerian statesman has come out to condemn him,rather they tell us to forgive. Why didn't they ask him to apologise publicly before asking us to forgive. I am tired of being a Nigerian and pretend like all is well. As a noble man he claim to be why didn't akiolu apologize to the Igbo publicly. Do you people think if anything happen to my relatives in Lagos I will stay in America and fold my hands Its blood for blood if we lose a hair!!!!

An Oba does not apologise. It's about the office not about the man. Believe me if he can, he'd have done that instead of retracting his statement. Don't expect him to apologise, he'll be going against the 'ethics' of his office. An Oba does not apologise. That's the dilemma Oba Akiolu has found himself.

The Oba is a hopeless bastard and the lazy and dirty people he is ruling are bunch of cowards....Let the Yorubas reclaim Ilorin from Sokoto caliphate before thinking of evicting Igbos from Lagos. As long as we remain one Nigeria, we are in Lagos to stay and there is nothing they can do about it...We have taken some of their federal constituencies as evident during last election and all I have to tell is to keep calm because this is just the beginning...ediotic fools and hopeless cowards..