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| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by iconize(m): 8:34am On Apr 11, 2015 |
ehie:You're a drunken mooron! You're too dumb to be living. Anyways, yo' brain scan is out!
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| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by somegirl1: 8:35am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Ymodulus: Funny. So people should be penalized for tendencies rather actions? Funny indeed that a relatively small population are thought to be able dominate wherever they go. Statements like yours make other groups appear weak in comparison. How do begin you justify the murder (for that is what it was) of innocent civilians as retribution for assasinations within and by the military? Why were Ojukwu and other guilty Igbo officers not the targets? Would you like your family wiped out because of the actions of few of your tribesmen, unrelated to you by blood? |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Azo(m): 8:35am On Apr 11, 2015 |
ControlX:It is disturbing how this issue is been prolonged. Without a stint of doubt, the Oba was wrong but I would not accept this as though Igbos are right. Till date, which yoruba or hausa man in the SE or SS can contest in a political position? None. But they leave in Lagos expecting to receive what they cant offer in goodwill. However, Igbos believe they have as much right in Lagos as Lagosians. Reason why they threaten heaven and earth more often than not that Nigeria should split of it would that they belong to biafra. The igbo tribe has been at the top of the game in dividing this country along ethnic and somewhat religious lines. Needless to say, on the election in the SE and SS some results are currently rejected due to rigging that occurred. This pattern of voting cannot be compared with the North where PDP still amassed more than 100,000 votes even where the lost woefully compared to the 10,000 votes to a million in the SE. I will say here that all your points are irrelevant and unfounded. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by chaloner(m): 8:35am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Scatterboss:ok we re sorry but me and you knw dat lagos is no mans land na , haba , na bigotry dey shape uur mind lik dis ooo, even yoruba agberos dey cal am no mans land , na tribalism dey disturb u oooo |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by OdenigboAroli2: 8:35am On Apr 11, 2015 |
illiad:that is why we dont need their fvcking presidency or senate presidency rubbish, we are cool and coasting on our own. Let them rule and suffer and turn back and blame the igbos for enjoying in naija ![]() |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Sanchez01: 8:36am On Apr 11, 2015 |
musing:Please don't get me wrong. When things happen and I don't feel it directly, I try to imagine myself in the "feeler's" shoes. I bear no ill will against anyone just that bigotry sickens me. I still believe the movie was never needed still. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by OLUJAY4REAL: 8:36am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Ymodulus:My friend, that lady called Chimamanda has made valid points in her submissions. I can't see serious argument in what you've just posted. I'm a complete yoruba person but detribalised. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Dexema(m): 8:37am On Apr 11, 2015 |
[quote author=Waspy post=32578918][b] Important Socratic questions Chiamanda and her folks forgot to answer are; Have Yorubas not bn good hosts in all forms of being good and being an host? Is it too much for Yorubas to say that Lagos is a Yorubaland? He who comes to equity must come with clean hands.... Have the Igbo, all along and "all these while" bn innocent victims? Are Igbos not just being mischievous since there are other tribes( whose lands are even closer to Lagos than the far East) in Lagos who have never cried like babies and whined like bigots? Is there a way forward and who shld pave way for who? Are other sojourners laying claims to the "no-man's land as passionately as the Igbos? I think these and many more questions shld have bn answered by Ms. Adichie and her goons before she concoted her sentimental piece...if truly she did. It won't be fair, if for the sakes of peace and unity of Nigeria, we continue to, for no sane reasons, undermine, insubordinate, take for granted and make to nothing the culture, tradition,ideology and good will of the numerous pples that make this great country[/b] You are just too much,let adichie be forming international writer hiding under the umbrella of ethnic respect and equality while being biased and not asking the right questions first. I think therz need for some level of self evaluation from igbos nationwide on their practices,attitudes,reactions and their level of diplomacy. Charity they say begins at home. Good points also raised by Youngmodulus |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Mbediogu(m): 8:37am On Apr 11, 2015 |
ControlX: |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by greenalwaz: 8:38am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Ymodulus:Gud response u've got here though.. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by incrediblestev: 8:38am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Yesterday I was in the car with colleagues and we were busy discussing the dynamics of Lagos politics and today's elections then unavoidably the issue of the Oba's threat came up. Of course typical to we Nigerians, we all argued based on our tribes and tribal biases-at least, we are all guilty of that. But one of my female colleagues stunned me with comments that I felt were careless expressions inherent hate for the Igbos. I was a bit annoyed because unlike the others, she clearly does not understand the subject of politics. I have noticed in the past that she has no regards for facts, neither does she follow Nigerian politics. In her very immature way of talking carelessly and making very tribalistic comments with reckless abandon, she said I was rooting for Jonathan because I was Igbo; that really got me upset especially comming from a young woman who spends most of her time in the office on social blogs chatting and face booking. I replied her back and told her that I would follow her logic and conclude that she is rooting for Buhari because of his Yoruba vice. After that careless statement and attempt to always turn political discussions into an Igbo vs Yoruba argument, I started avoiding any discussion of politics around her. Yesterday's unfortunate episode in the car on our way to work at a site was a crescendo for me. In her typical manner she started by asking between Lagos Igbos and Yorubas who own Lagos knowing how she throws hearsay around in her bid to bring tribalism in every discussion I ignored her and continued what I was discussing with others that were informed. Next she said Jimi Agbaje promised Eze ndi Igbo that if Igbos voted for him en mass, he would raise their royal status to that of the Oba's that was why the Oba threatened igbos. She followed her unfounded and careless statements with all sorts of hearsay in her usual attempts, that Igbos don't allow Yoruba teachers to be principals in their schools in the east and all sorts of nonsense, this a young woman who has never been to any part of the East or probably left the southwest. I was just stunned at the comments coming out of her mouth about Igbos and how Jimi Agbaje is a bastards and all. Bad enough, this is a person who is going to be working with me directly. When she and I got off the car, it was all an awkward silence for me until we finished the job at the site and went back to the office. But it later dawned on me the enormity of the Oba's tribalistic threats....... It goes beyond his kinsmen pandering or making palliative statements as if the man is an immortal whose statements can not be condemned in strong terms. This is very unfortunate, I just hope people will vote their choice today and go home safely without anyone being verbally assaulted or any tribe being blamed for any of the candidates' loss or Victory, this is a democracy after all. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by OdenigboAroli2: 8:39am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Azo:anyi n'enye ajo nsogbu One Nigeria! |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by oluamid(m): 8:39am On Apr 11, 2015 |
tollu:I couldn't have said it better. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by mcpat(m): 8:39am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Ymodulus:I scrolled down looking for a reply to this but I got none in the few pages I scanned. Mr Ymodulus my little knowledge of engineering tells me that the best way to reduce the friction between two bearing surfaces is by increasing the Young modulus but your comment on the topic in question has done nothing in reducing the current itch the Igbos are feeling. Chimamanda took out time to graphically explain how tribalism has eaten deep into us and your best counter was to state how igbos like to become the landlord of an area that isn't theirs, makes me wonder if lagos isn't on the Nigerian map or Lagosians aint Nigerians. The Civil war as I read from Chinuas manuscript was instigated with the massacre of only one group in mind; the Igbos. I have since decided not to disturb myself with the said tales of my ancestors and to stick to my belief of hearing from both sides of the story. But the yourubas are yet to put up a comprehensive report on what and who caused the genocide. Igbos were threatened in the 60's and still are hence the reason of this piece. Please let's see ourselves as Nigerians working for the betterment of Nigeria. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Scatterboss(m): 8:40am On Apr 11, 2015 |
chaloner:Onitsha might be no man's land. You can keep spewing whatever makes you happy, thats your problem. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Nobody: 8:40am On Apr 11, 2015 |
francizy:thank u |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by maajin007(m): 8:40am On Apr 11, 2015 |
illiad:U know why u are being treated like shit because most of u are suffering from meganomanial;until u solve that issue of yours.Pls let me inform you am not a Hausa or a yoruba |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by chaloner(m): 8:40am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Azo:u re judgin urself , no one is holdin dem not to contest , ok ask urseelf dis , how many hausa man or yoruba man wil build a good house or hav empires and businesses at SE ? Rada dey wil stay in an uncompleted buildin or usee aluminium to carve out som structure to llive, u see , you pple ree js decievin uurselves wit one nigeria , only SE trully bliv in one nigeria , dey goto places , build nd develop d place , contest in any post cos dey strongly bliv in one nigeria , d earlier u pple start behavin lik normal human being d beta for all of us . |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by blakky97(m): 8:41am On Apr 11, 2015 |
ControlX:very wrong assertion that the hatred for the industrous clan in nigeria (igbo) is a binding force for other tribes. yorubas, niger deltans, edos, calabars, and many others love igbo people. infact you will see the solidarity with the igbo clan from yorubas and other tribes from tge result of the oba saga. if pdp wins. know that yorubas and others hate the obas speech just as peole voted buhari because patience made wrong choices of speech. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by eaglechild: 8:41am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Sanchez01:Shove aside the words of a disgruntled Oba indeed. How about an unreserved apology for trying to incite genocide. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by illiad: 8:41am On Apr 11, 2015 |
XBLadez:Permission granted a million times. Lol! |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by somegirl1: 8:42am On Apr 11, 2015 |
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| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Whynotthetruth(m): 8:42am On Apr 11, 2015 |
francizy:Bro, no need wasting your time on people like Ymodulus... they only reason through ethnic lens and are unapologetically biased folks who constitute everything wrong with the society. Read through his posts and see...What he spewed here has gotten nothing to do with the article he wants to comment on....Just tired of folks like him...Atimes, I wish this forum will have a means of examining mental capacity and age of mind of most individuals here...because some reasoning are quite ridiculous.... When you advocated for nationalism as against ethnicity... I told you how bigoted these guys are...Just check out any thread that has to do with ethnicity especially Igbo and you see them bare their fangs...Inferiority complex and low self esteem alongside lack of innovative reasoning and skills have dealt them a heavy blow....Soon, some will rush out to boast that they are politically sophisticated and informed but history proves otherwise and presents them as bigots.... |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Holuwathoby(m): 8:42am On Apr 11, 2015 |
The Igbo's shd re-think and check their ways, why all other ethnic groups in Nigeria are always againt them. U rent a room to an Igbo person but will in the long run want to by force take possession of the whole house. I think the only thing that can satisfy the igbos is to allow them to disintegrate from the present nigeria otherwise I fear this trend may continue since it has bn lingering for decades. Mind u, SW is the seat and head-quater of knowledge in nigeria and I wonder what dominance mean without knowledge, only that we are not dubious in our character. Am a YORUBA and a christain too so SE ppl shd learn from their Bible what true chriatianity mean- uprightness in character! My opinion though |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by brainbox2014(m): 8:42am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Here's a comment from a blog on which I first read the piece Chimamanda, nice piece but this is not a matter to over-flog. You’re not more Igbo than me and many others saying “let’s move on” “calm down”. Many of us your fans will like to see how you can promote national unity through your writings. You write with too much ethnic fervour for a writer that all Nigerians will like to see as a national ambassador. At the end, what reaction do you expect from your readers in writing this poignant criticism of what you consider to be anti-igbo trend? That we Igbos should hate those of our countrymen from other tribes more, feel oppressed, disliked and hold our heads down like an ostrich or take up cudgels against the Oba of Lagos who showed so much scorn for our tribe? You don’t live amongst us so it’s dangerous to yield to your temptation. If ethnic strife breaks out here, the genocide will be a material for your story telling abroad but some of us here may not be alive to read the story. Nigerians are coming out of those primordial ethnic sentiments you’re promoting. We are focusing on issues of development and the collective progress of all tribes, all tongues, all cultures in Nigeria. Igbos love Yorubas and Yorubas love Igbos. Leave all that story that do not change our lives for the better in any way my sister." - Stanley |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by M4gunners: 8:42am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Where's Wole Soyinka? He is now deaf and blind i guess. Nemesis will catch up soon. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Ymodulus: 8:43am On Apr 11, 2015 |
OLUJAY4REAL:M not Yoruba either sir. If the biafran succession had succeeded its safe to say I would have been a complete Biafran. I am also detribalised |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Darlduchi: 8:43am On Apr 11, 2015 |
[quote author=jogojogo post=32583181]I know no igbo would want to talk about the reason/origin of the massacre in the north. Sentiment apart, reality, Igbos planted the seed that germinated into the massacre and the consistent hatred suffered. The Hausa/Fulani felt betrayed by the "smartness" of the Igbos in attempting to preserve their "statesmen" while the Hausa/Fulani in all "foolishness" killed their own illustrious sons in line with the agreement reached from all sections of the country. Alas! the ibos play the usual smartness and tribalistic tendency. So worst, that the North even allowed Emeka Nzogu to kill the revered Sardauna who brought him up. The north made the sacrifice but igbos betrayed the arrangement. At the end of the coup, it was then cleared that the North had been fooled by the so call "smart" race. With this impression in the heart of Hausa/Fulani, an ending era of hatred, hostility and killing was birthed....and as if history had been erased they cry cry cry cry....... [/quot Listen to Radio BIAFRA and get your self educated. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Nobody: 8:45am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Sanchez01:I like how its just your opinion that the movie was not needed. However It's my own opinion, even as someone committed to Nigeria that the history of this country is very much needed in any form it can be told. My opinion |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Nobody: 8:45am On Apr 11, 2015 |
iconize:name calling abuses and violence like a child throwing tantrums..grow up .You guys act like perpetual children. |
| Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Article On The Oba Of Lagos Saga by Nobody: 8:46am On Apr 11, 2015 |
ideykwum:me I wonder o, they keep talking as if d igbo's in lagos were given free land, and dat they accomodate them by bringing food to give dem every morning and dash dem money everytime... somebody wud be suffering for over 20years, some of dem start of be hawking things, from there they get blessed and they rent there own shops, from there they get a big business, build a house and get married. and is now comfortable, while dat person was busy running under d hot sun hustling on his own, most times he slept under d bridge, slept in empty stomach this ppl didn't remember them, but once they make it,they wud come and say they made it because yorubas are accommodating. If sm1 goes to Lagos and seats down wud a Yoruba man come and say take my land, I am dashing u.... dz ppl just keep talking out if ignorance. |
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