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Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by xtayle(m): 4:19pm On Apr 14, 2015
https://www./221907691331037/permalink/371700909685047

"By 1872 Lagos was a cosmopolitan trading center with a population of over 60,000 people.Colonial Lagos developed into a busy, cosmopolitan port, with an architecture that blended Victorian and Brazilian styles. The Brazilian element was imparted by skilled builders and masons who had returned from Brazil The black elite was composed of English-speaking "Saros" from Sierra Leone and other emancipated slaves who had been repatriated from Brazil and Cuba.By 1872 the population of the colony was over 60,000, of whom less than 100 were of European origin.

In 1876 imports were valued at £476,813 and exports at £619,260. Telephone links with Britain were established by 1886, and electric street
lighting in 1898.In August 1896, Charles Joseph George and G.W. Neville,both merchants and bothunofficial members of the Legislative Council,
presented a petition urging construction of the railway terminus on Lagos Island rather than at Ido, and also asking for the railway to be extended to Abeokuta. Lagos history is rich in Yoruba tradition,trade and commerce,infrastructural development and cosmopolitanism." -EXTRACTED

With the little facts above, I would like to educatesome illiterates making stupid assumption from blind sentiments that they developed Lagos. Lagosians had telephone presence in 1886, Itu and Calabar got connected to Telephone in 1923, while between 1946 and 1952, a three-channel line carrier system was commissioned between Lagos and Ibadan and was later extended to Oshogbo, Kaduna, Kano, Benin, and Enugu. Communication technology is a major signifier of civilizations and if Lagosians were already making telephone calls more than 70 years before your daddies, where then did you get the warped idea that you came to develop Lagos? By 1856 Cable and Wireless Company of the UK had commissioned a submarine cable link between Lagos and London and In 1851 a post office was established in Lagos; all these before of the emergence of Nigeria as an amalgamated country.

If I may ask again, where did the stupid idea that Igbo developed Lagos came from? Or that Lagos was developed with Nigeria's money when Lagos was not even part of Nigeria until 1914. I always feel embarrassed anytime I read and hear even so-called educated people from the East making these stupid assertions.

The first Yoruba lawyer Christopher Alexander Sapara Williams was called to the English Bar in 1879 whilst the first Igbo lawyer, Sir Louis Mbanefo, was called to the English bar in 1937. Again the first Yoruba medical practitioner, Dr. Nathaniel King, graduated in 1875 from the University of Edinburgh whilst the first Igbo medical practitioner, Dr. Akannu Ibiam, graduated from another Scottish University in 1935. Again I ask, where did the ignorant hypothesis of the backward Yoruba race who needed development by the superior Igbo race come from?

For the sake of our generation and posterity we need to teach factual history and not just cook up some cock and bull ego-centric concoctions as facts. The attitude of recycling long tales steeped in empty arrogance should be discarded before you mis-educate your kids with fictions.

Awolowo will continue to be the Yoruba hero not because of blind follower-ship but because he gave his people the system of free education, free healthcare and he introduced Television to the Yoruba; making Yorubaland the first region to have a TV station in Africa all done with revenues from Cocoa. It is crass ignorance and naked buffoonery to claim Lagos was built with Nigeria's money. In addition, where did the foolish idea that the Igbo brought civilization to Lagos and Yoruba-land come from? The aim of this post is not to deride any tribe but to correct the dangerous misinformation trending among some Igbo youths and common in their narratives that Lagos is a no-man's land and that their fathers built and develop Lagos.

Your forebears came to Yoruba-land like every other settlers and we appreciate their contributions but the stupid claim that Igbo built and develop Lagos is a gross display of stupidity because Lagos was already developed before your forebears came here from their villages and towns.

The first storey building in Nigeria was built in Marina, Badagry in 1845, long before some of hinterland people gave up the idea of conical mud
houses with thatched roofs which some boastfully called 'ancient mansions.' How can you now claim your grand-sires developed Lagos? Please if you are one of those spreading the fiction, I expect you to desist from self-delusion and collective amnesia forthwith.

The first Igbo alphabet-character set and Igbo primer (Isoama-Ibo) was published by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther (a yoruba man from Osogun) in 1857. How can you now claim superiority over the Yoruba race and even carelessly affirm that your forebears should be thanked for bringing enlightenment to Yoruba Land?



Meanwhile, I do not see all these achievements as a sign of Yoruba superiority over the Igbo or any other tribe for I do not believe in racial superiority;

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by kettykin: 4:29pm On Apr 14, 2015
If yorubas are claiming all these head start why do they want to remain and get stuck with the backward tribes in one country.

The Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians first produced lawyers, doctors, teachers and scholars before the American, British, German, French, Korean, Chinese and Japanese but the latter are light years ahead of the former in every sphere of life.

We are talking about igbos who lost all in 1970 and came out of their wrecks to own Nigeria.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by basty: 4:46pm On Apr 14, 2015
My grouse with the Igbos is they hate Yoruba so much and this centered on their grievance of the loss of Biafra war to Nigeria.
Suppose there was an agreement between Awilowo and Ojukwu that Yoruba should follow suit should the East ceassed from the federating Nigeria. Must Igbo take their battle to Youbaland or cross to the West or cross the Niger bridge?
An average Igbo sees a Yoruba a betrayal. There is no tribe in Nigeria that accommodate better than the Yoruba nation. These Igbo guys have taken the liberty to name Lagos as no man's land.
Can a Yoruba man go for any elective position in the East?
It is time Lagos Landlords stop letting their houses to an Igbo man, this is the time the Omo oniles (Land Owners) stop selling lands to Igbo in Lagos. This is the time the Igbos need to be re-buying the lands they built houses.
These will show who owns Lagos.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by xtayle(m): 4:50pm On Apr 14, 2015
kettykin:
If yorubas are claiming all these head start why do they want to remain and get stuck with the backward tribes in one country.

The Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians first produced lawyers, doctors, teachers and scholars before the American, British, German, French, Korean, Chinese and Japanese but the latter are light years ahead of the former in every sphere of life.

We are talking about igbos who lost all in 1970 and came out of their wrecks to own Nigeria.

There you go again!!! Whatever gave you the impression that Igbos now own Nigeria? Mind you, the discuss above is not about Yorubaland but about Lagos. Why not just pick up the lesson therein and move on? That the igbos recovered from the war is a good thing but are you aware no major tribe really trust them? And instead of them to work on that and earn their trust they continually exhibit attitudes that breeds more distrust. Wisdom is profitable to direct but thats not what we are seeing.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by xtayle(m): 4:56pm On Apr 14, 2015
basty:
My grouse with the Igbos is they hate Yoruba so much and this centered on their grievance of the loss of Biafra war to Nigeria.
Suppose there was an agreement between Awilowo and Ojukwu that Yoruba should follow suit should the East ceassed from the federating Nigeria. Must Igbo take their battle to Youbaland or cross to the West or cross the Niger bridge?
An average Igbo sees a Yoruba a betrayal. There is no tribe in Nigeria that accommodate better than the Yoruba nation. These Igbo guys have taken the liberty to name Lagos as no man's land.
Can a Yoruba man go for any elective position in the East?
It is time Lagos Landlords stop letting their houses to an Igbo man, this is the time the Omo oniles (Land Owners) stop selling lands to Igbo in Lagos. This is the time the Igbos need to be re-buying the lands they built houses.
These will show who owns Lagos

I know you are bitter and justified but we must let them know we are not undignified people. Their stance in everything Yoruba is disappointing and I know but they are still Nigerians. However, they need to outgrow their sentiments so that it does not consume them someday.
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by vemmawealth(f): 5:21pm On Apr 14, 2015
In my opinion, I think that the Igbos in Lagos should start cooperating with their Yoruba hosts and landlords. If they dont foster a good relationship, one day is coming, their host is going to be fed up and it will be their loss. No set of non-indigene can openly work against the interest of the Obi of Onitsha. If anyone does that, he calling for banishing. Yet, in the last election, igbos in Lagos openly worked against the wishes of the majority of the people of Lagos and their Oba and unrepentantly so.

This is a dangerous development and they need to watch it as everyone has an elastic limit.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Volksfuhrer(m): 6:32pm On Apr 14, 2015
I put all this on the doorstep of Zik!
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by xtayle(m): 6:35pm On Apr 14, 2015
Volksfuhrer:
I put all this on the doorstep of Zik!

Honestly, I dont understand what you mean. Can you be more explicit?
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by xtayle(m): 6:42pm On Apr 14, 2015
vemmawealth:
In my opinion, I think that the Igbos in Lagos should start cooperating with their Yoruba hosts and landlords. If they dont foster a good relationship, one day is coming, their host is going to be fed up and it will be their loss. No set of non-indigene can openly work against the interest of the Obi of Onitsha. If anyone does that, he calling for banishing. Yet, in the last election, igbos in Lagos openly worked against the wishes of the majority of the people of Lagos and their Oba and unrepentantly so.

This is a dangerous development and they need to watch it as everyone has an elastic limit.

Lots of wisdom if you ask me......

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Volksfuhrer(m): 7:50pm On Apr 14, 2015
xtayle:


Honestly, I dont understand what you mean. Can you be more explicit?

The hatred that the Igbos have for Yorubas predated the Civil War.

Zik's hatred of Awolowo for upstaging him from becoming Premier in the west also became a sore issue for the Igbos. I don't want to go into the earlier strife between these two political gladiators, because I want to keep it as simple as possible.

Every rancour between Igbo and Yoruba can be traced to the feud between Awo and Zik. Why I lay the blame on Zik is as follows:

1. Zik should not have rejected Awo's offer of Alliance, which would have made Zik Prime Minister;

2. When Zik instead opted for Balewa's offer he used the opportunity to get back at Yorubas.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by xtayle(m): 2:42pm On Apr 16, 2015
Volksfuhrer:


The hatred that the Igbos have for Yorubas predated the Civil War.

Zik's hatred of Awolowo for upstaging him from becoming Premier in the west also became a sore issue for the Igbos. I don't want to go into the earlier strife between these two political gladiators, because I want to keep it as simple as possible.

Every rancour between Igbo and Yoruba can be traced to the feud between Awo and Zik. Why I lay the blame on Zik is as follows:

1. Zik should not have rejected Awo's offer of Alliance, which would have made Zik Prime Minister;

2. When Zik instead opted for Balewa's offer he used the opportunity to get back at Yorubas.


I think you are right . zik's intention to be premier of the west was way too tall an ambition especially when he had Opara positioned for the east. He thought because he manipulated d party machinery herbert macaulay left in trust in his care on his death bed and made himself mayor of lagos, anything was possible.

It was not exactly Awo that was against that unreasonable ambition. It was Yoruba that queued behind "anything but Zik"

Awo was relatively unknown at that time. NCNC was d main party
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by mapet: 3:04pm On Apr 16, 2015
I think the Igbos should also realise the following as facts;

1. Societies have values and you need to assess your values with that of the host communities in which you live. Your worldview is not the Utopian worldview.
2. Igbos should always back assertion with empirical, historical and albeit veritable facts. I think it is share lunacy to bandy statistics that are flawed, generated by a near illiterate and passed on by even the supposedly educated.

OK let me break this two points down
1. There is no historical accounts, no veritable facts and figures to assert their claims of the supposed ownership of Lagos economy. A business value chain starts from production and ends at the last mile in consumption. Most of the businesses of these proponents are closest to the last mile. Even the Aba market touted with production in the past is long gone and replaced with the torrential inflow from China. So when a typical item is produced, if we do the value analysis, how much of such is coming to the "resaler"?

2. Have you gotten the profile of the financials of Lagos state and is Igbo market defined as a major contributor Let us look at the tax bracket (can someone help me with stats here?) Lagos has only 4.5million registered tax payers, of that number how many are Igbo traders? (when you match the organized payee system from private companies vs the largely disorganised market arrangements).

3. Off the tops of my pick, I think Lagos revenue is coming heavily from various regimes of taxes. From property to company income taxes, Land use charges and stuffs. Can the Igbos show how they dominated in this area?

4. I hear senseless arguement that Igbos own XX% of properties in VI, Banana Island, Magodo etc. and I dare ask, these stats are based on what?


Let's see a thing or two in value system

1. Can the Igbos explain to me how the amount of cash you make, make you a better man?
2. Can the Igbos explain to me why when it comes to clash of other people's culture, they resort to the Nigerian constitution as fall back?
3. Can the Igbos explain to me why it is important to lay claim of Lagos a place that knows no ethnic divide, yet they cannot but constitute satellite village meetings and associations in Lagos?

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by mapet: 3:17pm On Apr 16, 2015
kettykin:
If yorubas are claiming all these head start why do they want to remain and get stuck with the backward tribes in one country.

The Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians first produced lawyers, doctors, teachers and scholars before the American, British, German, French, Korean, Chinese and Japanese but the latter are light years ahead of the former in every sphere of life.

We are talking about igbos who lost all in 1970 and came out of their wrecks to own Nigeria.

Bros,

Going by your interesting arguement, I guess the part you missed our is that, these people emerged to develop their land/country and hardly go to other places to claim rights to power while they are still attached to their roots. Let me point your attention to few exerpts from the renowned economist Dr. Ayo Teriba on the topic "Confronting Inter-regional Disparities in Nigeria "

North-west and North-central, with well-watered stretches of land area, account for 90 per cent of crop production; South-south, with access to coastal oil and gas deposits, accounts for 91.5 per cent of oil production; South-west, with the historic ports of Lagos and lucrative land borders, account for 60 per cent of trading and commercial activities, and North-central and South-south combine to contribute another 30 per cent of this. The remaining two regions, the semi-arid North-east with immense metal ores, and the landlocked South-east with immense coal deposits, are marginalised from the existing growth processes.

The South-west gross regional output grew the most in 2012 with an absolute nominal increase of N1.4 trillion (or 21.8% nominal growth), followed by the North-west with N1 trillion (16.38%), and North-central with N800 billion (14.27%). These are to be compared to regional output increases of N123 billion (10.89%) in the South-east and N100 billion (8.19%) in the North-east. Owing to a slight dip in oil price in 2012 after growing impressively in the preceding three years, oil-dominated South-south recorded a slight decline of about N268.9 billion (-1.69%) in regional output in 2012.

The South-south still had the largest gross regional product, N15.65 trillion (38.6% of Nigeria’s GDP), followed by the North-west’s N8.4 trillion (20.65%), South-west’s N8.2 trillion (20.26%), and North-central’s N5.7 trillion (15%). South-east’s N1.4 trillion (3.27%) and North-central’s N1.2 (3.11%) trillion were the smallest GRPs in 2012, each being even smaller than the increase in South-west’s regional output that year. More importantly, South-east and North-east not only had the smallest economies in 2012, they also recorded the least absolute and percentage growths.

and the slightly positive side

On the contrary, the output disadvantage of the South-east is mitigated by the fact that south easterners’ income from involvement in wealth creation in all the five other regions and in the Diaspora far exceeds the value of wealth generated within the region. The strong home bias of the average south easterner ensures that huge fractions of such wealth are repatriated to the region with the consequence that South-east ranks third in consumption spending per head after the South-west and the North-central, ahead of the North-west, South-south and the North-east, although total consumption in the region still ranks fifth, only ahead of the North-east. South-east consistently remains third in both food consumption per head and non-food consumption per head.

So would you like to expatiate how the Igbos are comparable to Greeks, Egyptians, Japanese, Koreans etc again?

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by mapet: 3:26pm On Apr 16, 2015
Bros,

You bring academic delight into this discourse. I think this is needed to save the educated amongst them being misled by unverifiable points raised in the markets.

xtayle:
https://www./221907691331037/permalink/371700909685047

"By 1872 Lagos was a cosmopolitan trading center with a population of over 60,000 people.Colonial Lagos developed into a busy, cosmopolitan port, with an architecture that blended Victorian and Brazilian styles. The Brazilian element was imparted by skilled builders and masons who had returned from Brazil The black elite was composed of English-speaking "Saros" from Sierra Leone and other emancipated slaves who had been repatriated from Brazil and Cuba.By 1872 the population of the colony was over 60,000, of whom less than 100 were of European origin.

In 1876 imports were valued at £476,813 and exports at £619,260. Telephone links with Britain were established by 1886, and electric street
lighting in 1898.In August 1896, Charles Joseph George and G.W. Neville,both merchants and bothunofficial members of the Legislative Council,
presented a petition urging construction of the railway terminus on Lagos Island rather than at Ido, and also asking for the railway to be extended to Abeokuta. Lagos history is rich in Yoruba tradition,trade and commerce,infrastructural development and cosmopolitanism." -EXTRACTED

With the little facts above, I would like to educatesome illiterates making stupid assumption from blind sentiments that they developed Lagos. Lagosians had telephone presence in 1886, Itu and Calabar got connected to Telephone in 1923, while between 1946 and 1952, a three-channel line carrier system was commissioned between Lagos and Ibadan and was later extended to Oshogbo, Kaduna, Kano, Benin, and Enugu. Communication technology is a major signifier of civilizations and if Lagosians were already making telephone calls more than 70 years before your daddies, where then did you get the warped idea that you came to develop Lagos? By 1856 Cable and Wireless Company of the UK had commissioned a submarine cable link between Lagos and London and In 1851 a post office was established in Lagos; all these before of the emergence of Nigeria as an amalgamated country.

If I may ask again, where did the stupid idea that Igbo developed Lagos came from? Or that Lagos was developed with Nigeria's money when Lagos was not even part of Nigeria until 1914. I always feel embarrassed anytime I read and hear even so-called educated people from the East making these stupid assertions.

The first Yoruba lawyer Christopher Alexander Sapara Williams was called to the English Bar in 1879 whilst the first Igbo lawyer, Sir Louis Mbanefo, was called to the English bar in 1937. Again the first Yoruba medical practitioner, Dr. Nathaniel King, graduated in 1875 from the University of Edinburgh whilst the first Igbo medical practitioner, Dr. Akannu Ibiam, graduated from another Scottish University in 1935. Again I ask, where did the ignorant hypothesis of the backward Yoruba race who needed development by the superior Igbo race come from?

For the sake of our generation and posterity we need to teach factual history and not just cook up some cock and bull ego-centric concoctions as facts. The attitude of recycling long tales steeped in empty arrogance should be discarded before you mis-educate your kids with fictions.

Awolowo will continue to be the Yoruba hero not because of blind follower-ship but because he gave his people the system of free education, free healthcare and he introduced Television to the Yoruba; making Yorubaland the first region to have a TV station in Africa all done with revenues from Cocoa. It is crass ignorance and naked buffoonery to claim Lagos was built with Nigeria's money. In addition, where did the foolish idea that the Igbo brought civilization to Lagos and Yoruba-land come from? The aim of this post is not to deride any tribe but to correct the dangerous misinformation trending among some Igbo youths and common in their narratives that Lagos is a no-man's land and that their fathers built and develop Lagos.

Your forebears came to Yoruba-land like every other settlers and we appreciate their contributions but the stupid claim that Igbo built and develop Lagos is a gross display of stupidity because Lagos was already developed before your forebears came here from their villages and towns.

The first storey building in Nigeria was built in Marina, Badagry in 1845, long before some of hinterland people gave up the idea of conical mud
houses with thatched roofs which some boastfully called 'ancient mansions.' How can you now claim your grand-sires developed Lagos? Please if you are one of those spreading the fiction, I expect you to desist from self-delusion and collective amnesia forthwith.

The first Igbo alphabet-character set and Igbo primer (Isoama-Ibo) was published by Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther (a yoruba man from Osogun) in 1857. How can you now claim superiority over the Yoruba race and even carelessly affirm that your forebears should be thanked for bringing enlightenment to Yoruba Land?



Meanwhile, I do not see all these achievements as a sign of Yoruba superiority over the Igbo or any other tribe for I do not believe in racial superiority;
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by ndcide(m): 3:53pm On Apr 16, 2015
From what I see everyday, the Yoruba people are taking this thing too far. They are the one latching unto what the average Igbo man did not say.

They used it against Agbaje yet they are not satisfied.

I think the yorubas are the ones brewing hate.

The Igbo have not stopped any Yoruba man from making progress.

Even the elective position won by an Igbo, there were yorubas who also contested. These hate is unnecessary.

God help us.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Sloan: 4:10pm On Apr 16, 2015
ndcide:
From what I see everyday, the Yoruba people are taking this thing too far. They are the one latching unto what the average Igbo man did not say.

They used it against Agbaje yet they are not satisfied.

I think the yorubas are the ones brewing hate.

The Igbo have not stopped any Yoruba man from making progress.

Even the elective position won by an Igbo, there were yorubas who also contested. These hate is unnecessary.

God help us.

I know you very well on this forum, and now that the searchlight of knowledge has been beamed on the ignorance of your people, you are changing the goal post again? Well, you Ibos are the hateful ones but I am not even here on interested in engaging any of you. Just carry your hatred back to your land and never return again! All other Nigerians are in their lands and taking care of it so one-Nigeria is not an excuse to abandon your land and leech on Yorubaland! Go, go, go and take all your people with you! Enough of your troubles and locust mentality!

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by ndcide(m): 4:56pm On Apr 16, 2015
Sloan:


I know you very well on this forum, and now that the searchlight of knowledge has been beamed on the ignorance of your people, you are changing the goal post again? Well, you Ibos are the hateful ones but I am not even here on interested in engaging any of you. Just carry your hatred back to your land and never return again! All other Nigerians are in their lands and taking care of it so one-Nigeria is not an excuse to abandon your land and leech on Yorubaland! Go, go, go and take all your people with you! Enough of your troubles and locust mentality!

1, I appreciate that you know me, though I don't know you.
2, I'm not from the SE.
3, I said the truth.
4, the Igbo don't hate the Yoruba people.
5, the Yorubas are (from what I see) trying to show a kind of superiority complex. any objective mind knows this. from Politics, to education etc.
6, Everyone knows the political sentiments of the Igbo. especially because of Jonathan, not necessarily PDP.

7, I think the Yoruba kept faulting their political position, which I think was unnecessary. This was the main thing that brought the heat and insult.
8, The Igbo know that the north have supported their own irrespective of the political party and don't bother about it. But the yorubas kept attacking the Igbo because of their sentiments for Jonathan.

9, there was obvious fear that Igbo sentiments was going to be brought to bear in their voting especially in Lagos. Hence the threat from the Oba.

10, just like any politician seeking votes you align with those with similar sentiments with you; with those who love and believe in you.This was the sin of Agbaje. Majority of Yoruba ethicized the election and united the Yoruba against him. I've really not seen the Igbo people worry about this.

Now, Some Yoruba are taking it further.. that some persons called Lagos No mans Land. But clearly Lagos is not a no mans land. They practice their culture with out interference from Igbo so where is the challenge? Aregbesola, fayemi, osinbajo etc are not legosian by ancestry, but have occupied high government position in Lagos. Why did the Yoruba lagosians not fight them? Or are the Yoruba people so united? yet ife and mudakeke show so much enmity? Some persons are not telling themselves the truth. Apart from politics, I can't see how Igbo have wronged the yorubas.

I insist that what is being exhibited by some yorubas is simply Bad politics of intolerance.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by SLIDEwaxie(m): 4:59pm On Apr 16, 2015
kettykin:
If yorubas are claiming all these head start why do they want to remain and get stuck with the backward tribes in one country.

The Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians first produced lawyers, doctors, teachers and scholars before the American, British, German, French, Korean, Chinese and Japanese but the latter are light years ahead of the former in every sphere of life.

We are talking about igbos who lost all in 1970 and came out of their wrecks to own Nigeria.
develop ur states first na
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Gbawe: 5:17pm On Apr 16, 2015
kettykin:
If yorubas are claiming all these head start why do they want to remain and get stuck with the backward tribes in one country.

The Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians first produced lawyers, doctors, teachers and scholars before the American, British, German, French, Korean, Chinese and Japanese but the latter are light years ahead of the former in every sphere of life.

We are talking about igbos who lost all in 1970 and came out of their wrecks to own Nigeria.

You never tire of telling supremacist lies which favour your ethnic group regardless of how many times you get discredited. Na wa for you sha. Remember the thread below where you lied as usual to support your fictitious and bogus claim "Igbos own Lagos" while you palmed-off the Yorubas as Taxi driver, Okada riders, tailors and Agbo sellers? This is what annoys about you guys. I.e your total disrespect for other Nigerians, based on your own delusions of grandeur, and the way you put others down while claiming exaggeratedly to be what you are not. That sort of dishonest chest-beating will only leave you disgraced when the truth comes out. Learn to respect others and learn to face reality. You cannot get away with lying any more in this information age. Igbos do not "own Nigeria". Nigerians own Nigeria with in fact the SW having the biggest and fastest grown economy of all the regions of Nigeria.

https://www.nairaland.com/2013933/lagos-igr-now-75-state/1

kettykin:
Break Down of the IGR of Lagos

IGR from Banking, Insurance and Financial houses ---------- 20% ---------- Banking industry controlled by Delta igbos
IGR from Telecommunication firms and ISP ------ --- ------ 18%---------- MTN,Etisalat, Airtel foreign owned
IGR from Retail /Wholesale business ------- --- ---16% ----------- Retail and wholesale Business controlled by Igbos
IGR from the Oil and gas and service companies----- -- 30%------ Oil and Gas Industry is actually Niger Delta industry headquartered in Lagos
IGR from Dangote , BUA other top Northern businesses---- 7%------ Bulk importation of Sugar, Flour , Cement from the North
IGR from construction , Agents , land lords -------- 5% ------- construction , Agents , land lords controlled by ALL
IGR from taxi,Okada and bus drivers ------- 1%--------- Taxi , bus driving, Okada controlled by Yorubas and Aboka
IGR from tailors and agbo sellers --- ----- 0%--------- tailors and agbo sellers controlled by Yorubas
IGR from Baba Ijebu, bet9ja --- ---------- 1%---------- Baba Ijebu controlled by Yorubas
IGR from Hotels , bars, clubs , restaurants, eateries --- 2% -- controlled by ALL


Why are you ethnocentric charlatan such shamelessly dishonest and emptily chest-beating liars? Are you guys never ashamed to pull out imaginary figures from thin air that keeps getting discredited daily? We live in an information age and the entire world has now moved beyond your 2-by-2-container-shop-parading-as-a-business-empire lies and delusions. Pathetic lies and empty chest-beating is all your kind are associated with today.

No one is fooled any longer by your claims of 'mansion ownership' and "we run Lagos" bullcrap. The truth is now out there for all to access. Compare the figures below with your grossly fallacious data which is driven by an innately dishonest nature and inferiority complex. This is why you guys are predisposed to making wild claims that are symptomatic of the delusions of grandeur you routinely suffer from. Shameless bigot.

http://businessdayonline.com/2013/04/examining-lagos-state-gdp-figures/#.VHRH5ousXL4

Examining Lagos State GDP figures
April 22, 2013 | Filed under: Analysis | Author: Editor
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While Nigerians await the state-by-state breakdown of the country’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) figures by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS), it is great to see that the Lagos State government has gone ahead to calculate its own estimated GDP. The move by the state is not surprising considering it has been in the forefront of economic development in the country. The state currently has one of the best and most complete economic statistics in the country.

The state’s GDP figures released in September 2012 provide some interesting insights into the Lagos economy. The state has a GDP figure put in excess of N12 trillion or $81 billion as of 2010. Its economic size is about 35.6 percent of Nigeria’s 2010 GDP but a significant 62.3 percent of Nigeria’s non-oil GDP.

However, on the African continent, Lagos State GDP figures rank fourth below Cairo ($145 billion), Johannesburg ($110 billion), and Cape Town ($103 billion). The figures show that the Lagos State GDP is higher than 14 of the 51 states in the United States of America. It is also estimated to be bigger than the GDPs of 22 of the 27 states in Brazil, and higher than 42 individual states in Africa, including Kenya with a GDP of $66 billion, Ghana with a GDP of $61.97 billion, and Tanzania with a GDP of $58.44 billion.

[size=14pt]Seven different sectors dominate economic activities in Lagos State, led by manufacturing which, interestingly, contributes 29.60 percent of the state’s GDP figures. Road transport follows closely contributing an average of 26.47 percent of economic activities in the state. Other sectors in order of dominance include building and construction (19.60 percent); wholesale and retail (8.39 percent); telecommunications (3.71 percent); financial institutions (3.51 percent); and real estate (2.01 percent). The seven sectors account for 93.39 percent of economic activities in the state.
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The Lagos State Bureau of Statistics also breaks down the state’s GDP based on sectors. Livestock is the biggest economic activity in the agricultural sector. This is closely followed by forestry, and then fisheries which is about half the size of the livestock sector. Crop production is almost insignificant in the agricultural sector, contributing just 0.004 percent of economic activities.

Road transport is the giant in the room in the transportation sector in Lagos State, making up more than 90 percent of economic activities in the sector. The road transport sector is only slightly smaller than manufacturing. Manufacturing and road transport activities actually make up an average 56 percent of all economic activities taking place in Lagos. This explains the Lagos State government’s emphasis on road transport infrastructure within the state as both sectors actually feed on each other. The roads need manufacturing goods and passenger traffic while manufacturing needs the roads to move goods from production centres to the market.

The financial services sector of the Lagos State economy is dominated by financial institutions, with the insurance sector almost a negligible player in the sector. Insurance sector’s contribution to economic activities in Lagos State stands at just 0.30 percent compared to 3.51 percent by financial institutions. In the communications sector, telecommunications dominates, with broadcasting and postal services making marginal contribution (0.03 percent).

Under utilities, electricity dominates, but it contributes just an insignificant 0.47 percent of economic activities in Lagos State, a reflection of the challenges faced in the sector in the country. The contribution by the water sector is even more insignificant at just 0.03 percent. In a more ideal situation, these two sectors would be ranking among the highest contributors to economic activities because they are essential to modern living. Unfortunately, this is not the case here. The negligible contribution of these sectors hides the strong growth potential of the Lagos State economy if both sectors are repositioned to play their proper role in economic activities.

Currently, the NBS is compiling GDP figures for about six states of the federation. Ahead of the release of these figures, which was expected in March 2013, BusinessDay research will soon be releasing its report on the states of the Nigerian federation. The report is an in-depth analysis of the macroeconomic environment and fiscal plans of Nigeria’s 36 states and Abuja. It shows what the states are going to spend and how they are going to spend it. It is also a deep analysis of the financial profile of each state, showing internal revenue projections and history, debt overhang, projections and sustainability, projected expenditure-to-consumption ratios, and major projects in each state.

Due to non-availability of the GDP figures for the 36 states and Abuja, BusinessDay Research will be using NBS figures on consumption patterns in the states as a proxy for GDP figures. The report is an invaluable guide to anyone seeking to do business with or in the states and also to state governments wanting to know how their expenditure plans and macroeconomic environment compare competitively with other states and to the needs of the states.

Note: If you want analysis or data on any company or any particular sector of the Nigerian economy or industry or have any other queries that BusinessDay Research Unit can help you with, kindly send a mail to research@businessdayonline.com or call 08185193932. We can also help you with your confidential market surveys and competition analysis at a cost.


ANTHONY OSAE-BROWN

Editor, BusinessDay Research Unit

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by omazus: 5:17pm On Apr 16, 2015
Always obsessed with the past and the Igbo. To help redeem you now check this.

1. Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa The African an Igbo slave published a book in London, 1789)

2. The first Igbo doctor Africanus Horton qualified from Kings College and Edinburgh in 1858/1859

3. Edward Blyden the great historian was Igbo.

Btwxt apart from Ajayi Crowther, the tribe of the others you mentioned as first doctor and lawyer remain unknown today. Indeed, that first doctor is Ijaw, a freed slave who settled in Lagos.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Sloan: 5:20pm On Apr 16, 2015
ndcide:


1, I appreciate that you know me, though I don't know you.
2, I'm not from the SE.
3, I said the truth.
4, the Igbo don't hate the Yoruba people.
5, the Yorubas are (from what I see) trying to show a kind of superiority complex. any objective mind knows this. from Politics, to education etc.
6, Everyone knows the political sentiments of the Igbo. especially because of Jonathan, not necessarily PDP.

7, I think the Yoruba kept faulting their political position, which I think was unnecessary. This was the main thing that brought the heat and insult.
8, The Igbo know that the north have supported their own irrespective of the political party and don't bother about it. But the yorubas kept attacking the Igbo because of their sentiments for Jonathan.

9, there was obvious fear that Igbo sentiments was going to be brought to bear in their voting especially in Lagos. Hence the threat from the Oba.

10, just like any politician seeking votes you align with those with similar sentiments with you; with those who love and believe in you.This was the sin of Agbaje. Majority of Yoruba ethicized the election and united the Yoruba against him. I've really not seen the Igbo people worry about this.

Now, Some Yoruba are taking it further.. that some persons called Lagos No mans Land. But clearly Lagos is not a no mans land. They practice their culture with out interference from Igbo so where is the challenge? Aregbesola, fayemi, osinbajo etc are not legosian by ancestry, but have occupied high government position in Lagos. Why did the Yoruba lagosians not fight them? Or are the Yoruba people so united? yet ife and mudakeke show so much enmity? Some persons are not telling themselves the truth. Apart from politics, I can't see how Igbo have wronged the yorubas.

I insist that what is being exhibited by some yorubas is simply Bad politics of intolerance.

You must be a kid or greenhorn to read so much into what is not because of course what I meant was I know you to be one of the tribal supremacists on this forum. Your type walk into big traps through ignorance as you have no idea that your simpleton disposition is about to get you permanently killed.

If you are not Ibo, why speak for Ibo? Not that I care that you are a busy body but NEVER compare a Yoruba from other Yoruba states from Osun, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Ekiti living in Lagos to an Ibo man, they will NEVER be the same. If you are not a baby, when did Nigeria start having states? Was it before the Yoruba or afterwards? Does it mean Yorubas who lived 500 KM from present day Lagos did not exist then or did it make them any less a Yoruba? Do you even know that Yorubas call states? "Ipinle" and what does it mean? This is what Ibos and simpletons can never understand: that a piece of land was physically divided does nothing to the common heritage and ancestry of the Yorubas! The same Yorubas in the days of the Oyo Empire captured several hundreds of thousands of KM of land, lived there and garrisoned it; does that mean now that they are 1000 KM from Oyo, they are now in a different land and no longer Yorubas or have the same rights back in their lands as citizens? I hope the logic does not escape you thought it will if you are a baby or just naive.

General Gowon first divided Nigeria in 1967, does it change the ancestry of the people or is state creation not for administrative convenience? That is exactly the same thing you do when you build a house and divide it into bedroom, living room, toilet, dining area, etc; does it in anyway change the fact that you own the entire house, even though you've got your brother in one of your rooms living with with you?

Ibos cannot claim to be victims after losing out in a battle they upped the ante for so long now. GEJ is a direct creation of the Yorubas from OBJ in 2007 to Yaradua saga in 2009 - 2010, Save Nigeria Group and many "occupy movements", mostly Yorubas: Bakare, et al. As soon as the food was ready, the Ibos and an insular tribalist president GEJ forgot the source of his emancipation, the Yorubas and said the Ibo are the pillar of his administration while setting the record as the worst leader in Nigeria till date! In any case, just tell your fellow Ibos to go back to their land, Yorubas surely don't want snakes in their midst or ungrateful swarming locusts in their lands!

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by omazus: 5:40pm On Apr 16, 2015
EDWARD WILMOT BLYDEN
(1832-1912)
THE FATHER OF PAN-AFRICANISM

Edward Wilmot Blyden was the foremost African intellectual of the 19th century. His brilliant career, in both Liberia and Sierra Edward Wilmot Blyden Leone, spanned the fields of religion, education, journalism, politics, and philosophy. He is best remembered as an African patriot whose writings contributed significantly to the rise of Pan-Africanism.

Edward Blyden was born in the Virgin Islands in the West Indies, a descendant of Ibo slaves from Nigeria. He was a gifted student, and at the age of eighteen, attempted to enroll at a theological college in the United States. But the college would not accept him because he was black, and he experienced many frightful scenes in the U.S. at a time when slavery was still lawful. In 1851, young Blyden emigrated to Liberia with the intention of building a new life in Africa. He would remain there for more than thirty years, rising gradually to the highest levels of Liberian society. During his Liberian career, Blyden was a Presbyterian minister, a newspaper editor, a professor of classics, President of Liberia College, Ambassador to Great Britain, Minister of the Interior, and Secretary of State. In 1885, he was an unsuccessful candidate for the Presidency.

But Edward Blyden was also well known in Sierra Leone, where had spent two years (1871-73) as Government Agent to the Interior, leading two official expeditions—one to Falaba and other other to Futa Jallon. In 1885, after his unsuccessful bid for the presidency of Liberia, Blyden based permanently in Freetown. In fact, Blyden was in many ways a greater intellectual force in Sierra Leone than in Liberia. He stirred controversy and lively debate in the Krio community by opposing the indiscriminate emulation of European culture. He told the Krios that they were "de-Africanised," scolded them for holding themselves aloof from the upcountry peoples, and advised them to remember always that "you are Africans." After the 1887 publication of his masterpiece, Christianity, Islam, and the Negro Race, some Krios under Blyden's influence began to adopt African names and even to emulate traditional African dress.

Edward Blyden was one of the most original thinkers of his time, and although some of his ideas seem archaic today, he was a major force for the defence of Africans and of black civilisation. Blyden looked forward to the rise of an independent West African nation, and he encouraged British colonial efforts as a means of uniting this vast area. At the same time, Blyden regarded Africans as having a unique "personality" and a distinctive culture equal to, but different from, that of Europeans. He urged the British to allow Africans more autonomy in political and church matters, and argued against the imposition of European culture. As early as 1872, Blyden called for an independent West African University to be run solely by Africans, teaching African languages, cultures, and values. Blyden, though a Christian himself, viewed Muslims as more authentically African, and he repeatedly urged the British authorities to involve Muslim Africans in various ways in their colonial enterprise. Blyden taught himself to speak Arabic, and maintained close relations for many years with the Muslim community in Freetown. In his later years,, he was Director of Mohammedan Education in Sierra Leone.

When Edward Wilmot Blyden died in 1912, his funeral was attended by many hundreds of people from throughout the Freetown community, including both Muslims, who bore the coffin, and his fellow Christians. Later generations of black intellectuals, in both Africa and America, have looked to Edward Blyden for inspiration in the areas of Pan-Africanism and cultural nationalism.


AFRICANUS HORTON
(1835-1883)
SCIENTIST AND AFRICAN PATRIOT

Africanus Horton was a surgeon, scientist, soldier, and a political thinker who worked toward African independence a centuryAfricanus Horton before it occurred.

Born James Beale Horton, he grew up on Gloucester Village, the son of an Ibo recaptive who worked as a carpenter. Horton was educated at the CMS Grammar School and at the Fourah Bay Institution (later Fourah Bay College), and in 1853 received a War Office scholarship to study medicine in Great Britain. He studied at King's College, London and Edinburgh University, qualifying as a medical doctor in 1859. While a student, he took the name "Africanus" as an emblem of pride in his African homeland.

Africanus Horton joined the British Army Medical Service the year he completed his medical studies, and was appointed assistant staff surgeon. He was one of the first Africans to qualify as a medical doctor, and one of the first to serve as an officer in the British Army. He continued in the army for the next twenty-one years, attaining the rank of lieutenant-colonel. He spent most of that time in the Gold Coast (Ghana), where he took an active interest in scientific research. He published several studies involving tropical diseases, climate and meteorology, and geology. But despite his dedicated and professionally competent service, the British authorities were not anxious to see an African advance too far. They shifted Horton constantly from one post to another, and rejected his application in 1872 for the position of governor of the Gold Coast.

But, despite his disappointments, Horton continued to believe that Africans could advance under the banner of British colonialism. In 1865 a Select Committee of the British House of Commons had suggested that Africans be given increasing responsibility for administering their own affairs. The same year, Horton published Political Economy of British Western Africa, a book calling for the establishment of a West African University along British lines. Three years later, he published his popular West African Countries and Peoples, calling for nothing less than the establishing of independent West African nations in the Gambia, Sierra Leone, etc. He argued for British assistance in moving these African countries toward self-rule, and presented plans for education, economic development, and medical improvements. But the Select Committee's recommendations were not popular with British authorities, who looked toward increasing their control, not decreasing it—and Horton began to be seen as an enemy of British policy.

Africanus Horton retired from the Army in 1880, and returned to Freetown. Ever the optimist and believer in progress, he set up a commercial bank to assist struggling African entrepreneurs. But only three years later, at the age of forty-eight, he died suddenly of blood poisoning. Horton had left funds for the setting up of a secondary school of high standard, but his endowment proved insufficient. Much of his estate went for the funding of scientific education at the Sierra Leone Training School. Africanus Horton's countrymen would have to wait for almost a century before his dreams of political independence would be realised.


Source: http://www.sierra-leone.org/Heroes/heroes3.html
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by omazus: 5:44pm On Apr 16, 2015
There are three major tribes in Nigeria. Granted Yoruba and Igbo don't trust each other but don't sit in your house and conclude that the other tribe love you more. Browse the net and get their view about you instead of writing trash here, feeding yiourself with propaganda and believing your own propoganda. Check this ou:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpwgbXPhh70

xtayle:


There you go again!!! Whatever gave you the impression that Igbos now own Nigeria? Mind you, the discuss above is not about Yorubaland but about Lagos. Why not just pick up the lesson therein and move on? That the igbos recovered from the war is a good thing but are you aware no major tribe really trust them? And instead of them to work on that and earn their trust they continually exhibit attitudes that breeds more distrust. Wisdom is profitable to direct but thats not what we are seeing.
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by omazus: 5:46pm On Apr 16, 2015
Shut up. And the Obi of Onitsha forced all the non-indigenes to vote his favoured candidate.
vemmawealth:
In my opinion, I think that the Igbos in Lagos should start cooperating with their Yoruba hosts and landlords. If they dont foster a good relationship, one day is coming, their host is going to be fed up and it will be their loss. No set of non-indigene can openly work against the interest of the Obi of Onitsha. If anyone does that, he calling for banishing. Yet, in the last election, igbos in Lagos openly worked against the wishes of the majority of the people of Lagos and their Oba and unrepentantly so.

This is a dangerous development and they need to watch it as everyone has an elastic limit.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Nobody: 5:54pm On Apr 16, 2015
I think we should keep an eye on the Igbos. If we don't have any other choice, we shud kick them outa here eventually. No time for nonsense!
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Andalus(m): 5:58pm On Apr 16, 2015
kettykin:
If yorubas are claiming all these head start why do they want to remain and get stuck with the backward tribes in one country.

The Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians first produced lawyers, doctors, teachers and scholars before the American, British, German, French, Korean, Chinese and Japanese but the latter are light years ahead of the former in every sphere of life.

We are talking about igbos who lost all in 1970 and came out of their wrecks to own Nigeria.
It's pointless arguing with you because it seems you are eternally trapped in fugue state.
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by EnigmAries(m): 6:09pm On Apr 16, 2015
I'm damn tired of Ibo obsession with anything Yoruba.
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Nobody: 6:51pm On Apr 16, 2015
kettykin:
If yorubas are claiming all these head start why do they want to remain and get stuck with the backward tribes in one country.

The Greeks, Egyptians and Babylonians first produced lawyers, doctors, teachers and scholars before the American, British, German, French, Korean, Chinese and Japanese but the latter are light years ahead of the former in every sphere of life.

We are talking about igbos who lost all in 1970 and came out of their wrecks to own Nigeria.

Ungrateful set of nuisances this people are! If not for the softhearted nature of the yorubas that made them return your properties and jobs after the civil war, I wonder where lots of this igbo folks will be right now! Even your so called brothers from the south-south have not returned your seized properties till date!

Meanwhile, no one is interested in being in the same country with you lot, at least not anymore. You can decide to secede and believe me, yorubas will offer all the support that we can to help actualise your secession. Go now, Go!

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by ndcide(m): 7:08pm On Apr 16, 2015
Sloan:


You must be a kid or greenhorn to read so much into what is not because of course what I meant was I know you to be one of the tribal supremacists on this forum. Your type walk into big traps through ignorance as you have no idea that your simpleton disposition is about to get you permanently killed.

If you are not Ibo, why speak for Ibo? Not that I care that you are a busy body but NEVER compare a Yoruba from other Yoruba states from Osun, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Ekiti living in Lagos to an Ibo man, they will NEVER be the same. If you are not a baby, when did Nigeria start
having states? Was it before the Yoruba or afterwards? Does it mean Yorubas who lived 500 KM from present day Lagos did not exist then or did it make them any

less a Yoruba? Do you even know that Yorubas call states? "Ipinle" and what does it mean? This is what Ibos and simpletons can never understand: that a piece of land was physically divided does nothing to the common heritage and ancestry of the Yorubas! The same Yorubas in the days of the Oyo Empire captured several hundreds of thousands of KM ofland, lived there and garrisoned it; does that mean now that they are 1000 KM from Oyo, they are now in a different land and no longer Yorubas or have the same rights back in their lands as citizens? I hope the logic does not escape you thought it will if you are a baby or just naive.

General Gowon first divided Nigeria in 1967, does it change the ancestry of the people or is state creation not for administrative convenience? That is exactly the same thing you do when you build a house and divide it into bedroom, living room, toilet, dining area, etc; does it in anyway change the fact that you own the entire house, even though you've got your brother in one of your rooms living with with you?

Ibos cannot claim to be victims after losing out in a battle they upped the ante for so long now. GEJ is a direct creation of the Yorubas from OBJ in 2007 to Yaradua saga in 2009 - 2010, Save Nigeria Group and many "occupy movements", mostly Yorubas: Bakare, et al. As soon as the food was ready, the Ibos and an insular tribalist president GEJ forgot the source of his emancipation, the Yorubas and said the Ibo are the pillar of his administration while setting the record as

the worst leader in Nigeria till date! In any case, just tell your fellow Ibos to go back to their land, Yorubas surely don't want snakes in their midst or ungrateful swarming locusts in their lands!


You are taking this things too personal. see you calling me" green horn" "kid" etc haba? you said you knew me in this forum, now you said you meant you knew me to be a tribal supremacist . you are quite funny. Are you a comedian?
please stop writingwhat only you understand.

All what you wrote smells of bigotry. What a shame.

Now what is making you so pained? most Igbo are in their business places making money, and all you do is hate.

Jonathan have been voted out, Good! Agbaje lost, Fine!!!. Move on. Jonathan says Igbos are the pillar of his administration, That's because they gave him huge support. it was clear. we all know where his attacks came from. you cant claim to support a President and destroy him everyday with the media while the other is using bokoharam. it's easy to know your friend in times of travail.

You really think Lagos is thick because of the Yoruba people?please be honest. open your mind please, your needless hate for the igbos because of politics with not help you.. your bigotry is chronic.

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Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Scholes007(m): 7:30pm On Apr 16, 2015
Well the Yorubas have succeeded in making their selves enemy of the south...
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by Scholes007(m): 7:37pm On Apr 16, 2015
Well the Yorubas have succeeded in making theirselves enemy of the south...

To the igbos it has made them return home to invest as you can notices by the number of industries and investment been developed in recent times

Let them keep hating and watch the Igbos retrace their steps
Re: Point Of Information: The Igbo And Lagos' Development- Swp Group by otr1(m): 7:44pm On Apr 16, 2015
Ibos with false sense of superiority. Rather than blame them, they are to be pitied.
An average Ibo person sees the Yorubas as the cause of their loss in the civil war, hence the hate. A close study of Ibo psyche will reveal to you that they actually feel inferior to the Yorubas and that's why they found themselves competing with us. They found themselves wanting to out-do everything we've done( Á jí se bi Òyó làárí, Òyó ò se bí baba eníkan) but without success.
So far, it's only in Iboland that I've seen a community of not less than 500 people without a motorable road, potable water, electricity, school and healthcare facility. The only government presence they have there is a polling unit. The indigenes of this community are in Lagos and all over SW claiming they developed the place. Ask if they provide all the facilities they lack back home, in Lagos. Most of them don't even pay tax, so one would wonder how exactly they contributed to the development of Lagos.
There's nothing wrong having Ibos doing business in Lagos, but calling it a no-man's-land is unacceptable and will no longer be tolerated. Ibos in Yorubaland are free to take up Yoruba names, but enough of Chukwudis who refused to sell me a pieces of land in Enugu, calling any part of Yorubaland a no man's land.

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