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ABUJA IS A NO MAN'S LAND


When Abuja was being planned, it was indicated that they were looking for a neutral place, unlike Lagos or Calabar that already belonged to ethnic groups. Every Nigerian would be welcomed and there would be no domination of one group by the other. Some were wondering if a virgin place still existed in Nigeria that can be called a no man's land as we want. We did not know that they were going to displace some natives who would be glad to move from mud huts to Government reservations or slums.

Many Nigerians who have been paying attention to the allocation of land in Abuja heard about politicians making more than one allocation to one another in the Obasanjo era. We may have to wait and see what is being allocated in Yar'Adua's time. Babangida was the first head of State to move to Abuja , so some of the allocation started before that time.

Buried in the allocation of land to the high and the mighty is the slum surrounding Abuja . Slowly but surely, we are going to hear more of it when it erupts in the face of politicians.

We have heard about squatters that are trying to deface Abuja and the swift action of the planners who destroy the eyesore near their beautiful properties. We can't blame them, it will lower the value of their properties and brings hoodlums too close for comfort.

Has anyone heard about how much allocation were made to others, less prominent than late Senator Kuta son of mud hut settlers? If Nigeria has anything to learn from our past, it is that one day, the educated son and daughters will demand their share of the land owned by the forefathers. We all know that Abuja itself was created like Israel by cutting space out of existing states. But I am not sure that we are doing everything to make sure some of these prime land allocations are extended to many sons and daughters of its soil.

The early settlers were the Gbagyi, Bassa, Gade, Gwadara, Koro, Ganagana, Beriberi and others. Before the ambulance chasers or lawyers start running around taking briefs as in Lagos land cases in court, one would think that our Government would anticipate trouble down the road and pre-empt any claim of injustice. Our attitude has always been to cross the river when we get there. Land is very important, not only in Nigeria but every where.

Anyone familiar with Ikoyi and Victoria Island in Lagos of those days compare to what they are now may sympathize with them. In those days Ikoyi was designated as special Government Reservation Area for colonial civil servants and some crony Africans. But for the guts of Adelabu Adegoke who disturb their peace with gongon drummers waking him up in the morning, no crony reminded colonial masters that they do not belong. The people of Lagos are now trying to reclaim Ikoyi since it is no more an eminent domain.

Most Nigerians could have thought that politicians sliced Abuja cake amongst themselves until El Rufai then came out with a bombshell that Igbo got more allocation than others. Yeah, sure, fool us again my brother. May be they split the size of a football field into hundred pieces. The fact is the politicians from North and South took care of themselves as the probe has revealed. Believe me, there are more allocations going on right now.

We have to be careful so that these politicians do not knock our heads together as usual. When the Gbagyi owners who are the majority in Abuja come knocking for more share of their land, who are they going to go after? They should go for the throats of the politicians who are having field moments allocating to relatives. We can not rely on those potatoes allocations to different ethnic groups when the real juicy and meaty allocations go to who and who all over Nigeria . Why they were trying to divert attention away from themselves to different ethnic groups could possibly be to evade the wrath of the owners when their anger reaches a boiling point as Gbagyi were also displaced for Shiroro Dam.

In fairness to the Government, some of us working at the Federal Secretariat in the 80s were offered flat allocations as incentive to move to Abuja . Some did and some never left Lagos . Looking at what Abuja has now become, on 20/20 insight, it may have been a mistake. However, a few of us still have not regretted it. Moreover, as you get older, you just want to stay put in a familiar place.

Today, Abuja has become one of the most expensive cities in the world. Without rental income, it would be unaffordable for poor original settlers to even think about living there. If there is anything to learn from Jos Plateau area, Niger Delta area, Ife area and now Ajah in Lagos, families do not disappear into the thin air, whatever their past claim to the land .We do not have to wait until feud raises its ugly head to get a fire fighter.

Of course we already have fire all over the place and our hands are full. One will think that with a population of 140 million, we can busily engage our too many idle politicians and civil servants. Oh, they are doing their best destroying slums springing up around Abuja . We understand why we have slums around major cities around the world. These slums and Nyanya labor camp should also be called service centers, without which the major cities may not survive. That is where all the cheap laborers come from.

The cost of reaching the affluent areas if the laborers have to move far away to their jobs will eat all their pay. These are not wealthy suburban driving to the cities or taking luxury buses or go-trains. Even the wealthy ones are now groaning under the cost of traveling or the amount of petrol to fill their cars and generators.

There is something more dangerous about Abuja though; the slums surrounding it are occupied not only by other Nigerians but by Gbagyi, Bassa, Gade, Gwadara, Ganagana, Koro and Beriberi owners of the center. The amount of money sunk into Abuja , the billions of naira and dollars flowing in the City of milk and honey have not spread to these slums. That is what Nigerians call suffer-head in the midst of plenty.

Here we are asking the Government to divert more additional oil money to rebuild Niger Delta, this bobo is preaching for dormant slum militants around Abuja . Chinekeme!

A fool and his money will part if he can't walk and chew gum. How a man manages his family, business, and environment determines how money is used to manage a country. A man on government training all his life, who has stolen all his life, or sucked others dry, will not suddenly become a skilful manager. He will display deliberate indifference.

http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/88796-abuja-no-mans-land.html

U think so? Some ppl were sent off there land when the Govt claimed those places

Abuja is no man land? Really.

Lets not get carried away

Una don start!
When they ask u to "go and perish in the lagoon" now, U begin to get angry.
Take it or leave it:
Lagos is a Yorubaland

Abuja, Kano, Jos, Kaduna belong to the Hausas

Calabar is owned by Efik, even their closest neighbours - Ibibio know their place and don't try to claim "owners".

Warri belongs to Ijaw, Itsekiri & Urohbo

Aba & Onitsha belong to the Igbo

ephemm:
Una don start!
When they ask u to "go and perish in the lagoon" now, U begin to get angry.
Take it or leave it:
Lagos is a Yorubaland
Abuja, Kano, Jos, Kaduna belong to the Hausas
Calabar is owned by Efik, even their closest neighbours - Ibibio know their place and don't try to claim "owners".
Warri belongs to Ijaw, Itsekiri & Urohbo
Aba & Onitsha belong to the Igbo

Agreeeeed, but Warri belonging to Ijaw and Itsekiri? Just saying

Don't start all this again




Aboki won't take it easy with you guyz oooo

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ephemm:
Una don start!
When they ask u to "go and perish in the lagoon" now, U begin to get angry.
Take it or leave it:
Lagos is a Yorubaland

Abuja, Kano, Jos, Kaduna belong to the Hausas

Calabar is owned by Efik, even their closest neighbours - Ibibio know their place and don't try to claim "owners".

Warri belongs to Ijaw, Itsekiri & Urohbo

Aba & Onitsha belong to the Igbo

You still don't get it, no body is contesting for ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Ado Ekiti, abeokuta with you.
Lagos has been developed to a federal capital territory with niger delta money, sweat and hard work of igbos, resources from the north, yorubas can not wake up from their hypocritical hateful slumber and start claiming what they never built.

kettykings:
You still don't get it, no body is contesting for ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Ado Ekiti, abeokuta with you.
Lagos has been developed to a federal capital territory with niger delta money, sweat and hard work of igbos, resources from the north, yorubas can not wake up from their hypocritical hateful slumber and start claiming what they never built.

Seconded! Many Yorubas still don't get it.

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kettykings:
You still don't get it, no body is contesting for ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Ado Ekiti, abeokuta with you.
Lagos has been developed to a federal capital territory with niger delta money, sweat and hard work of igbos, resources from the north, yorubas can not wake up from their hypocritical hateful slumber and start claiming what they never built.

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Yes Lagos is Igboland. You are right, kill yourself over Lagos. Smh

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Scatterboss:
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Yes Lagos is Igboland. You are right, kill yourself over Lagos. Smh

ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Illorin, abeokuta is Yorubaland please go and claim back Illorin before coming to claim back lagos Illorin was taken illegal and more than 100 years before lagos . Why leave Illorin and fight over lagos

Some Igbos are animals in human skin. It is far easier for Igbo man to act than to think!

ope2711:
Some Igbos are animals in human skin. It is far easier for Igbo man to act than to think!

Is it not better to live with an animal in human skin than a devil in human skin

Some devils in human skin believe that the crude oil in niger delta is no man's property and must be used to develop those places that claim more population

ephemm:
Una don start!
When they ask u to "go and perish in the lagoon" now, U begin to get angry.
Take it or leave it:
Lagos is a Yorubaland

Abuja, Kano, Jos, Kaduna belong to the Hausas

Calabar is owned by Efik, even their closest neighbours - Ibibio know their place and don't try to claim "owners".

Warri belongs to Ijaw, Itsekiri & Urohbo

Aba & Onitsha belong to the Igbo

In what world does Abuja and Jos belong to Hausas?

kettykings:
You still don't get it, no body is contesting for ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Ado Ekiti, abeokuta with you.
Lagos has been developed to a federal capital territory with niger delta money, sweat and hard work of igbos, resources from the north, yorubas can not wake up from their hypocritical hateful slumber and start claiming what they never built.

infact Jo'burg in South Africa belongs to my igbo people based on the fact that they are the most hard working folks there.
lol.
Please stop this nonsense. Its illogical to say the least.
Tribalism kills faster since it metamorphoses into xenophobia.

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kettykin:
ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Illorin, abeokuta is Yorubaland please go and claim back Illorin before coming to claim back lagos Illorin was taken illegal and more than 100 years before lagos . Why leave Illorin and fight over lagos

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You are dumb, whats the meaning of claiming back Lagos? There is no need to argue with an epileptic patient like you. Whats my bleeping problem with Ilorin, tell those crap to people from there. You cant keep calling my forefathers land a no man's land and expect me to keep quiet. I can only defend my heritage and where i come from, continue with your foolishness. No one cares. Since Lagos is now Iboland, no problem.

usbcable:
infact Jo'burg in South Africa belongs to my igbo people based on the fact that they are the most hard working folks there.
lol.
Please stop this nonsense. Its illogical to say the least.
Tribalism kills faster since it metamorphoses into xenophobia.

Was the resources of the east used to build Johannesburg, are south Africans killing themselves to be in the same country with igbos

Scatterboss:
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You are dumb, whats the meaning of claiming back Lagos? There is no need to argue with an epileptic patient like you. Whats my bleeping problem with Ilorin, tell those crap to people from there. You cant keep calling my forefathers land a no man's land and expect me to keep quiet. I can only defend my heritage and where i come from, continue with your foolishness. No one cares. Since Lagos is now Iboland, no problem.

You need to get tired of your hypocrisy. I should tell the people there to claim back their lands they willingly handed over to fulani while back stabbing their rulers in Oyo and leave you who sold your birth right / heritage to other people in nigeria and the federal government.
I leave you to wallow in your crass hypocrisy.

Your forefathers land was sold by your fathers and as it is now it has new legal owners .

ope2711:
Some Igbos are animals in human skin. It is far easier for Igbo man to act than to think!

I assure you this yoruba fellow has his father's house purchased by an Igbo man and made him a perpetual tenant. And possibly working for one Okechukwu for his livelihood. .

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kettykin:
You need to get tired of your hypocrisy. I should tell the people there to claim back their lands they willingly sold to fulani while back stabbing their rulers and leave you who sold your birth right / heritage to other people in nigeria and the federal government.
I leave you to wallow in your crass hypocrisy.

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Its now sure you are mentally challenged, go and tell people from Ilorin those crap. I speak for where i come from, why are you ashamed of your own land and fighting over another man's land. Shameless thing...

kettykin:
ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Illorin, abeokuta is Yorubaland please go and claim back Illorin before coming to claim back lagos Illorin was taken illegal and more than 100 years before lagos . Why leave Illorin and fight over lagos

Lagos is and will always be Yorubaland, and it will always be dominated and governed by the Yorubas in every critical sector, be it industry, civil service, or what have you. But it's ok for you to keep dreaming. We both know that when the chips are down you and your kindred will run back to the SE where you truly call home. Heck, you all don't even like being buried in Lagos. GTFOH.

kettykings:
You still don't get it, no body is contesting for ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Ado Ekiti, abeokuta with you.
Lagos has been developed to a federal capital territory with niger delta money, sweat and hard work of igbos, resources from the north, yorubas can not wake up from their hypocritical hateful slumber and start claiming what they never built.

Lol today is sunday
So I just gotta laugh in ancient Hebrew
Hahahaha
You're hilarious man!

Only in a section of Nigeria will someone sell his land, use the money to organise useless parties and after the partying his children will now wake up and start claiming the land back.
Lagos is no mans land full stop.

kettykin:
Only in a section of Nigeria will someone sell his land, use the money to throw useless parties and after the partying his children will now wake up and start claiming the land back.
Lagos is no mans land full stop.

It's ok to dream bro. The ikwerres of Rivers state confiscated igbo properties after the civil war coz they saw it as an opportunity to right the past wrongs of igbo encroachment over their lands, and ironically till today no single one of those properties have been reclaimed. Even GEJ couldn't assist igbos in reclaiming those properties from ikweres (who are a supposed igboid ethnic group).

Now imagine what we Yorubas can and probably will do to you chest-beaters if you push your luck too far. If the ikweres could get away with that imagine we can do to you if we chose to go that route.

all posters above this is SUNDAY pls we need to pray just to make it today

kettykin:
Only in a section of Nigeria will someone sell his land, use the money to organise useless parties and after the partying his children will now wake up and start claiming the land back.
Lagos is no mans land full stop.

Look at this ignorant toad spewing trash everywhere, you always flex your muscle whenever they discuss anything Lagos. The thread is about Abuja, but you dingbat had to sneak Lagos into it just to feel good. How did you Yeebhoes develop Lagos? Did you build the bridge, house, government institutions and roads. You can only post jargons online and not in real life, you all run away from your erosion ravaged land and now trying to claim another people's land. You need to be shot and fed to the dogs.

kettykin:
ibadan, oshogbo, Akure, Illorin, abeokuta is Yorubaland please go and claim back Illorin before coming to claim back lagos Illorin was taken illegal and more than 100 years before lagos . Why leave Illorin and fight over lagos

Why not go reclaim your properties from the Ikweeres and your stolen land from them. Villagers like you run away from your cursed land to claim other people's land. You are not even proud of your erosion ravaged red mud land, but you are fighting over whats not yours. greedy people

WisdomFlakes:
It's ok to dream bro. The ikwerres of Rivers state confiscated igbo properties after the civil war coz they saw it as an opportunity to right the past wrongs of igbo encroachment over their lands, and ironically till today no single one of those properties have been reclaimed. Even GEJ couldn't assist igbos in reclaiming those properties from ikweres (who are are a supposed igboid ethnic group).

Now imagine what we Yorubas can and probably will do to you chest-beaters if you push your luck too far. If the ikweres could get away with that now imagine what we Yorubas can do to you if we chose to go that route.

We saw what yorubas did at ilorin.

WisdomFlakes:
It's ok to dream bro. The ikwerres of Rivers state confiscated igbo properties after the civil war coz they saw it as an opportunity to right the past wrongs of igbo encroachment over their lands, and ironically till today no single one of those properties have been reclaimed. Even GEJ couldn't assist igbos in reclaiming those properties from ikweres (who are are a supposed igboid ethnic group).

Now imagine what we Yorubas can and probably will do to you chest-beaters if you push your luck too far. If the ikweres could get away with that now imagine what we Yorubas can do to you if we chose to go that route.

Ikwerre land was never a federal capital, lagos was a federal capital territory, why did igbos not invest in Ibadan, Akure, oshogbo, Illorin ,abeokuta etc because those places are not and was not the capital, this is like some one from niger state claiming to dispossess igbos of their estates in Abuja,.
This will be the madness of the century and will be fiercely fought.

codedslayer:
Why not go reclaim your properties from the Ikweeres and your stolen land from them. Villagers like you run away from your cursed land to claim other people's land. You are not even proud of your erosion ravaged red mud land, but you are fighting over whats not yours. greedy people

Go and help jos people reclaim jos north or kwara people reclaim Illorin, the landed property issue in port harcourt was one of the rewards by the unreasonable federal government to rivers people for supporting the federal government, if there was no civil war there would never have been abandoned property.

If igbos are smart enough not to be tricked or hoodwinked into another civil war where the same people they did coup to liberate their sage from a life jail sentence only for him to turn and fight his liberators then the issue of igbo abandoned property will never happen again in this country.

codedslayer:
Look at this ignorant toad spewing trash everywhere, you always flex your muscle whenever they discuss anything Lagos. The thread is about Abuja, but you dingbat had to sneak Lagos into it just to feel good. How did you Yeebhoes develop Lagos? Did you build the bridge, house, government institutions and roads. You can only post jargons online and not in real life, you all run away from your erosion ravaged land and now trying to claim another people's land. You need to be shot and fed to the dogs.

Hope you know 80% of taxes and duties used to develop Lagos is paid by non yorubas...always keep that in mind whenever you see Fashola commissioning a project.

Examples of costs and projects funded by tax payers are government institutions, bridges, roads, e.t.c