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truefact:
The children of cowards and hates who are too timid to emancipate themselves and achieve self determination, why do you want Igbos so much in your nigeria?

Yorubas fight for your own country. ..Nigeria is not a country. ..

Your hero committed suicide. Your hero is coward who never fight for your freedom. Your hero had no choice of his, remember Zik made him accept nigeria and Gowon made him stay in Nigeria. Your hero believed nothing and die like nothing. ..WHAT A BIG SHAME

ElekeNtioba:
napoleon fought like a warrior because he they allowed him to stay alive after defeating him twice.

Lol...what proof do u want dat northerner could have killed him. Its common sense. Do u expect him to wait and find out what what will happen to him....smh

ur powerful britons could do ntin to stop d 1966 progrom, they did ntin to stop d starvation policy against Biafra which was termed genocidal by some western analysts. They couldnt stop nigerian soldiers from comitting so many war crimes. And u expect Ojukwu to put his fate in their hands....smh

Nigerian soldiers were killing biafran senior officers days AFTER Biafra's surrender. What saved Effiong was cos he's d one to sign off on surrender docs. The other officers particularly Igbos among them were either killed or escaped.

Charles de Gaulle fled when d Germans defeated and occupied France in WW2. He formed and led the govt in exile. He only returned to France when d allies recaptured it from d germans. By ur reasoning he should have fought to death or surrendered in the first place...right??

Washington and other founding fathers of America moved from one safe house to another to avoid capture by the more powerful Royalists. I ask again does that make them cowrds...?

What ur definition of a coward. The man who stands up for his pple and took precautions to preserve his life like Washington, Gaulle, Ojukwu OR the general who wept like a kid cos he was afraid of his life....after wilfully and knowingly plotting a coup...Jeez!

The more u argue the more i see d same 'diya trait' in you...give it up and move on.....no shame in being who u are

truefact:
The children of cowards and hates who are too timid to emancipate themselves and achieve self determination, why do you want Igbos so much in your nigeria?

Yorubas fight for your own country. ..Nigeria is not a country. ..

Your hero committed suicide. Your hero is coward who never fight for your freedom. Your hero had no choice of his, remember Zik made him accept nigeria and Gowon made him stay in Nigeria. Your hero believed nothing and die like nothing. ..WHAT A BIG SHAME

truefact:
The children of cowards and hates who are too timid to emancipate themselves and achieve self determination, why do you want Igbos so much in your nigeria?

Yorubas fight for your own country. ..Nigeria is not a country. ..

Your hero committed suicide. Your hero is coward who never fight for your freedom. Your hero had no choice of his, remember Zik made him accept nigeria and Gowon made him stay in Nigeria. Your hero believed nothing and die like nothing. ..WHAT A BIG SHAME

truefact:
The children of cowards and hates who are too timid to emancipate themselves and achieve self determination, why do you want Igbos so much in your nigeria?

Yorubas fight for your own country. ..Nigeria is not a country. ..

Your hero committed suicide. Your hero is coward who never fight for your freedom. Your hero had no choice of his, remember Zik made him accept nigeria and Gowon made him stay in Nigeria. Your hero believed nothing and die like nothing. ..WHAT A BIG SHAME

truefact:
The children of cowards and hates who are too timid to emancipate themselves and achieve self determination, why do you want Igbos so much in your nigeria?

Yorubas fight for your own country. ..Nigeria is not a country. ..

Your hero committed suicide. Your hero is coward who never fight for your freedom. Your hero had no choice of his, remember Zik made him accept nigeria and Gowon made him stay in Nigeria. Your hero believed nothing and die like nothing. ..WHAT A BIG SHAME

truefact:
The children of cowards and hates who are too timid to emancipate themselves and achieve self determination, why do you want Igbos so much in your nigeria?

Yorubas fight for your own country. ..Nigeria is not a country. ..

Your hero committed suicide. Your hero is coward who never fight for your freedom. Your hero had no choice of his, remember Zik made him accept nigeria and Gowon made him stay in Nigeria. Your hero believed nothing and die like nothing. ..WHAT A BIG SHAME

truefact:
The children of cowards and hates who are too timid to emancipate themselves and achieve self determination, why do you want Igbos so much in your nigeria?

Yorubas fight for your own country. ..Nigeria is not a country. ..

Your hero committed suicide. Your hero is coward who never fight for your freedom. Your hero had no choice of his, remember Zik made him accept nigeria and Gowon made him stay in Nigeria. Your hero believed nothing and die like nothing. ..WHAT A BIG SHAME

Noneroone:
u mean the general under whose command the federal troops suffered heavy defeat from unarmed Igbo teenagers. Like u rightly said he resorted to cowardly acts like killing innocent children and raaping women.

Midehi:
i think i have made my points and done with you guys...i wont see myself indulging in abuse of tribalism.

SirShymexx:
Lmao...you are like a gift that keeps on giving, and you're yet to put ya money where ya mouth is to defend the greatest coward who ever liveth, apart from re-writing history, to suit ya fantasies.

1). Napoleon stayed alive because he was never killed nor captured in any battle - even the ones he lost.

2). There was no way Northerners would have killed Ojukwu. The whole world was watching, and there was enormous pressure on the UK, due to Biafran propaganda machined, oiled by the Christian missionaries, foreign press and red cross.

3). Charles De Gaulle never did an Ojukwu - he kept fighting till the end of the war. Heck, he led a unit of French and British forces. Also, wasn't De Gaulle sentenced to death in absentia by the French military for not being part of the French armistice with the Germans? And that was a guy who didn't do an Ojukwu. Even Paul Reynaud, the leader of France, before Petain took over, never fled. The Nazis also didn't kill him when he was arrested.

4). By ya logic, then Harriet Tubman, one of the bravest women ever to walk this planet, who freed slaves via safe houses (underground railroad) - must have been a coward as well, no? It was a revolution and the yanks were outgunned, until the French joined. So, using safe houses was more of guerrilla warfare - than anything as cowardly as what Ojukwu did. But they still won the war.

Not holding brief for the crying man and others who cried - but even the toughest nyggahs cry from time to time. But Ojukwu was in a league of his own, when it comes to cowardice. He fled from non-Anambra Biafrans and also fled on a voyage to Ivory Coast like a biitch. The biggest cowardly war-time general ever. Even when he got to Ivory Coast - rather than help Biafra, he was taking pictures with women. grin

Not surprised cos Nnamdi Azikwe the Zik of Onitsha and the biggest opportunist ever shared the same trait. He also left Biafra hanging after taking money. grin Anyway, the only two Igbos from that era that I somewhat rate were: Christopher Okigbo (the great writer) and Kaduna Nzeogwu (his ideology). Too bad they were both killed during the war - while cowardly Ojukwu and the opportunistic Zik of Onitsha stayed alive.

gunnersjohn:
Bigots from the east shouldn't have bitten their tribal dust by attaching Diya's tribe to his action, you want to get your hair burnt so that you can feel the smell of your body. The same Yoruba that produced Diya also produced Adekunle Fajuyi that was killed alongside Gen Ironzi. He could have lived if he chose to abandon Ironzi just the way that coward Ojukwu abandoned over three million people to perish while he ran AWOL but he braved it up by standing with Ironzi in death. That is bravery from a Yoruba man too which can not be found among your people.

Fajuyi was also shot. Although the western region
publication "Fajuyi the Great" published by the
Ministry of Information in 1967 after his official burial
said he had offered to die rather than "abandon his
guest", those involved in his arrest and assassination
insist that he was an even more critical target than
Ironsi and made no such offer to die with Ironsi. Lt.
Col. William Walbe (rtd) said:
"……..We arrested him as we arrested Ironsi. We
suspected him of being party to the January
coup. You remember the Battle Group Course
which was held at Abeokuta….Fajuyi was the
Commander of the Battle Group Course…All
those who took part in the January coup were
those who had taken part in that course. It
gave us the impression that the Battle Course
was arranged for the January coup, so he had
to suffer it too. I am sorry about that but that is
the nature of the life of a military man…….."
General Danjuma confirms this opinion. He says that
at another training camp in Kachia commanded by Lt.
Col. Fajuyi, Major Nzeogwu rehearsed the assault on
Sardauna's house in the presence of some northern
mortar officers who did not appreciate the
significance of the exercise until after the coup. In
Danjuma's words, "The chaps could not stomach
Fajuyi such that if there was anybody who should die
first, as far as they were concerned, it was Fajuyi, not
even Ironsi."
How true are these claims about Fajuyi's role in the
January coup? I found an answer in the book "Why
we Struck" by Major Adewale Ademoyega, one of the
January mutineers and a Yoruba officer like Fajuyi.
Ademoyega states that Fajuyi supported the first
coup, knew of it and made suggestions to plotters on
how it could be best carried out. According to
Ademoyega, that he did not actively participate was
only as a result of his posting at the time the coup
was launched. However, Ademoyega eulogizes the
late Colonel for opposing all efforts in the Supreme
Military Council to bring the January 15 coupists to
trial.

obayaya:
That line about Fajuyi.. You might wanna check this out



www.africamasterweb.com/CounterCoup.html

Truckpusher:
Is this an army General or a palace chef that made bad bread for his King?

CC
SirShymmex.

ElekeNtioba:
I'm wondering if you are really worth my while. I opened up a debate with you cos i tot u sounded reasonable amongst all ur folks on this thread but honestly, you are no longer making sense. U ar just bent on ur assertions regardless of how ludicrous u sound. Let me try again:

1. It's obvious u dont have a good account of Napoleon history, particularly the wars that led to his downfall. The allies never attempted to capture or kill him. Twice they defeated him and twice they forced him to exile on each occasion. They could have finished him off if they wanted to. They forced him to Elba the first time and blockaded it. He escaped, went to Paris and raised an army. After some initial victories, they defeated him again, forced him this time to Helena. He tried severally and couldnt escape from Helena. They let him be and even allowed him start his govt there without interfering. WHY DID THEY ALLOW HIM?? Because killing or capturing him would be adding insult to injury for the french. Napoleon was a french icon and their only objective was to remove him from power. Pls read up his history, i hate repeating myself.

2. Thats what they said in Sri Lanka a few years ago. The Sri Lankan govt forces cornered the leader of Tamil rebels in their last territory, killed him and claimed he was killed in a shoot-out. Nobody, i repeat nobody challenged their claim because they was no contrary evidence. The world moved on. Angolan govt forces did same too when they launched an operation that led to the killing of rebel leader Savimbi. Guess what, after a few eyebrows raised abt it, everybody moved on. The fact u keep repeating this assertion makes me believe u must be very naive. Even after i told u of biafran officers killed days AFTER....i repeat...AFTER the surrender...smh

3. Again its obvious u know ntin abt history. You are only confusing urself lumping events together. After Germany defeated and occupied France, Petain signed an armistice with the Germans. Gaulle who had ALREADY gone into exile denounced the agreement and insisted dat d french should continue resisting and thats why they sentenced him to death in ABSENTIA. He went on an exile first to Britain where he formed a parallel govt made up of members of d french resistance. He later moved to Algeria (then a french colony) after falling out with Churchill. yes, he later raised an army to take back France with considerable support from the allies. I ASK YOU AGAIN....did Gaulle going into exile...make him a coward or do u prefer he surrendered to the Germans to be made a public spectacle..??

4. I dont understand ur analogy abt the tubman. i was ASKING YOU if Washington and other yankee rebel leaders were cowards for making use of safe houses to protect themselves from the more powerful Britons.

The only reason Zik supported Biafra initially was just cos of massive Igbo support for Biafra. Igbos were his pple and u dont turn ur back on ur pple. Even during the war he kept a respectable distance from Ojukwu's govt and the way Ojukwu ran his govt also didnt help matters. Even today no Igbo begrudges him, cos we understand what it felt to watch d country u helped found torn apart. If Zik was an opportunist, i wonder what ur Awolowo would be called...

After all said and done, Here are the facts:

Diya is a coward
Ojukwu is more courageous than all ur military officers combined

raumdeuter:
Ojuku was fingering her as a toddler which counts as child abuse.

FFK was the nigga who hit the real bullseye

Aigbofa:
Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein were far more honorable than Ojukwu. They stayed in their respective countries and faced their enemies when the end came.
The Biafran hero on the other hand was sipping cognac in Ivory Coast while millions of the people he led to war perished.
There are very few leaders like him in history. Ignobility personified.

Mortiple:
Agreed, Ojukwu fled but that only happened after 3 years of fierce hostility against the Federal troops plus their foreign allies. Besides Ojukwu was just a Colonel in the Army.

As for Oladipo Diya, he NEVER FOUGHT any war. More so he was a GENERAL in the army.

It's such a shame that he chose to disgrace his people, the Yorubas, Nigeria nation and worse still, soldiers all over the world. He made history as the first Army General to weep uncontrollably on live camera.

Laid2001:
What is certain is that Adekunle fajuyi stood by his boss and visitor General Aguyi Ironsi till death. He chose to die rather than allow his boss to be killed like a chicken. Only a Brave soldier can do that and that is the Character of some Yoruba warriors. "Ikoyi eso omo afaya gba ota, arogun ma sojo ni won ni ile tiwon"

And when things got to war, the black scorpion was the notable slayer of the Biafran soldiers, i am talking of Benjamin adekunle, he is one of the prominent soldiers that pursue, the puppy of nnewi to Ivory coast!!!. that is also a brave yoruba Soldier.!

OBJ, OBJ is another one, ebora owu, the menace of GEJ, after winning the civil war, he still demonstrated boldness by standing against GEj and ensuring he is going back to Otuoke!. He even sent his son to the war front against Boko haram!

Not a single yoruba soldier was reported to have deserted the war when it became faery!!!!

SirShymexx:
Mortiple and stanech


I think I've found food for the both of you.

One of the greatest war generals ever to walk this planet, a field marshal (5-star general), the first Duke of Wellington, Field Marshal Arthur Wellesley. The same general who defeated Napoleon during the Battle of Waterloo and won many wars for the British Empire, from India, to Euroasia, to continental Europe - also cried.

In 1812, Wellington finally captured Ciudad Rodrigo by a rapid movement as the French went into winter quarters, storming it before they could react. He then moved south quickly, besieged the fortress of Badajoz for a month and captured it during one bloody night. On viewing the aftermath of the Storming of Badajoz, Wellington lost his composure and cried at the sight of the bloody carnage in the breaches. ref [Holmes (2002). p. 162.].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Wellesley,_1st_Duke_of_Wellington


Crying can be therapeutic, though I'm not a fan of crying when things are bad - I only shed tears of joy. Now, show us any army officer in history that ever eloped from the battlefield, while leaving his troops at the mercy of the enemy, that wasn't court-martialed for being a coward.

Mogidi:
A General weeping before an army major, why shouldn't it be on front page?

You should be banned for stealing Biafranqueen's identity.