₦airaland Forum

rexbuton:
2. America is trying to further divide the rich and poor in the world by taking away means of self reliance. Over time, countries who have moved from are extremely helpful and friendly, Jonathan did a lot here.. The southerners election campaign message ever.. It was soaking baboons proved to the North that he will be reached and they will tell you that the population in gombe is thrice that of Bendel and Rivers. And their methods are very systematical and carefully arranged. The Kaduna state government has just told us that over 3.5 Million children were immunized on sunday, just kaduna state. I don't need to press home the handiness of these immunization figures. But keep in mind that they will be used in a few years as reference points. I won't even be surprised if Buhari commissions a census in the guise of the former being unreliable. The census figures will just be like our election results. When elections come, they will vote their kin and use traitors here or the very intelligent progressives to garner their 25% and move on.

rexbuton:
3. I live in the North, these people are extremely helpful and friendly, Jonathan did a lot here.. The southerners who voted buhari continue to argue that Jonathan was daft, we agree. Considering the fact that he sited 9 out of 12 universities in the north, and shipped fertilizers there to boost their farming drive, the well said Almajiri schools anthem and employment in the civil service. The thank you message from the North was echoed throughout the north :: "VOTE OUT THE INFIDEL".

rexbuton:
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With 30,000 fraudulent polling units in the Northern region and not creating any additional polling unit in the South, designated as voting centers and having being heavily criticized by some eminent Northern elders, this increased the voter number in the north considerably
“In a Normal and sane nation, this singular act is a subversion of popular interest which should have earned massive condemnation. We also saw the massive PVC collection figures in war ravaged areas and comparing them with peaceful areas doesn't ake any sense at all.

In fact the elections were paradoxical.. If the north had massively voted Jonathan and we in the south massively rigged him out, it would have been easier to accept and understand. Today the South SOUTH and South-east even the south has nothing to remember jonathan for.. Jonathan is not a hero, Jonathan failed us

Brothers, real smartness is not the ability to win online arguments, it is your ability to determine what happens around you. We must learn from the mistakes of Ironsi and Jonathan, and decide our fate.

internetpirate:
Jonathan failed the South...that's a harsh reality! But you need to deal with the issues that make the South a caricature in Nigeria! The South also failed Jonathan! It's a funny paradox that we need to examine critically! Thank God you live up North...How many Northerners would vote against their Islamic brothers, no matter what infamy is orchestrated?

fkaz:
Jonathan lost because he failed to deliver and he encourage corruption, if president jonathan had won 70% of votes cast in south west, will you be writing this rubbish?

If president jonathan had won Benue nasarawa, Abuja, kogi and kwara state would you still be blaming hausa/fulanis of religion conspiracy or kick him out agenda?

If bokoharm is crumbling faster like a pack of card, just after the election don't you think president jonathan/FG has a hand/agenda in the boko haram game?

When jonathan ask INEC to postpone general election for SIX WEEKS for him to crush boko haram, which he is now doing and he is achieving faster result in crushing boko haram, you don't suspect any agenda?

We just saw a video of nigeria army chasing boko haram members @ sambesa forest, don't tell me jonathan/nigeria army thought this is the right time to enter sambesa forest after 5 year?

A week ago president jonathan promise that no nigeria territory will be under boko haram control before he handover, what kind of agenda is that?

I hope Buhari will look into this boko haram issue and probe trillions of naira jonathan government has spent on it.

I Will End Boko Haram Before May 29 says Jonathan

internetpirate:
Very true! Southerners who have had limited association with the North are living in a Fool's Paradise! Going to Abuja from time to time doesn't mean you know the North! The North I know is a hydra-headed monster that seeks no respite for anything perceived to be against its interests (religious and cultural)!

rexbuton:
That is the problem i'm trying to point out.. Why do we southerners hate ourselves so much? Is it because we are more educated? because there is a funny inverse relationship between education and deviant behaviour.. If Nigeria packs up today, the south would fragment into numerous city-states..
An ideological northerner would vote for his blind brother before voting a southerner, and it did not start today.. Ahmadu bello once said that during a job selection process in the north , they would have to pick a northerner first, if there was no northerner they would opt for a foreigner, if no foreigner they would put a southerner on temporary basis

internetpirate:
But what beats me is why Southerners don't understand this logic? Like you said, is it the education (translated to "over sabi"? Or is it plain lack of good judgement? There are many tribes up North, yet the find a way to unite their interests! I think it's partly due to a lack of humility amongst southerners and our penchant for running each other down!

rexbuton:
YES of course.. it is very logical that we examine the two sides of the coin.. Boko Haram has to be thoroughly investigated, but I would wager a bet any day that it was a northern scheme.. The west chose not to vote Jonathan, I have no ill feeling towards them, that is why I am crying to my brothers down south on the need to vote our own.. Let the southerners shun logic and embrace instinct because that is what is happening all over the country.. The people in the middle belt have genuine reasons to be angry, because the PDP governments in their states failed them, either by defaulting on salaries or trying to politicise genuine agitations of the masses. But we also have some PDP states in the north that their governors did exceedingly well and Jonathan also treated well, did they vote Jonathan? They voted Buhari and voted unproven people who were flying the APC flag or put more succinctly, bearing the Sai Buhari Standard.. Let us not deceive ourselves any further by trying to rationalise the irrational

internetpirate:
In addition to that, all regions should be allowed to conduct their census, and population figures should not be the basis of representation at the central government! Each region should have equal representation!!

More so, this jaundiced constitution must be jettisoned and re-drafted to ensure democracy, equal representation and respect of our various individualities! Islam should be expunged from it completely!!!

rexbuton:
IT is mostly due to over sabi.. And the south of nigeria is a microcosm of the entity called Nigeria... We have too many ethnic divisions down south, and everybody thinks his ethnic group is superior to the next one.. Though the north is not ethnically homogenous, it enjoys religious homogeneity, this evens the odds completely.. But in the south we have different tribes, different religions , there are even divisions within tribes as is found among the south-easterners. Until the south-south decides to unite and recognise herself as a singular entity, the yorubas will continue to mock us, the Igbos will continue to claim parts of our areas and the hausas will continually lord over us

rexbuton:
YES of course.. it is very logical that we examine the two sides of the coin.. Boko Haram has to be thoroughly investigated, but I would wager a bet any day that it was a northern scheme.. The west chose not to vote Jonathan, I have no ill feeling towards them, that is why I am crying to my brothers down south on the need to vote our own.. Let the southerners shun logic and embrace instinct because that is what is happening all over the country.. The people in the middle belt have genuine reasons to be angry, because the PDP governments in their states failed them, either by defaulting on salaries or trying to politicise genuine agitations of the masses. But we also have some PDP states in the north that their governors did exceedingly well and Jonathan also treated well, did they vote Jonathan? They voted Buhari and voted unproven people who were flying the APC flag or put more succinctly, bearing the Sai Buhari Standard.. Let us not deceive ourselves any further by trying to rationalise the irrational

rexbuton:
That is the problem i'm trying to point out.. Why do we southerners hate ourselves so much? Is it because we are more educated? because there is a funny inverse relationship between education and deviant behaviour.. If Nigeria packs up today, the south would fragment into numerous city-states..
An ideological northerner would vote for his blind brother before voting a southerner, and it did not start today.. Ahmadu bello once said that during a job selection process in the north , they would have to pick a northerner first, if there was no northerner they would opt for a foreigner, if no foreigner they would put a southerner on temporary basis

rexbuton:
IT is mostly due to over sabi.. And the south of nigeria is a microcosm of the entity called Nigeria... We have too many ethnic divisions down south, and everybody thinks his ethnic group is superior to the next one.. Though the north is not ethnically homogenous, it enjoys religious homogeneity, this evens the odds completely.. But in the south we have different tribes, different religions , there are even divisions within tribes as is found among the south-easterners. Until the south-south decides to unite and recognise herself as a singular entity, the yorubas will continue to mock us, the Igbos will continue to claim parts of our areas and the hausas will continually lord over us

Gani Adams, speaking at a Press Conference at Ikeja, queried how 90% PVC collection in Boko Haram affected states became possible despite the insecurity and a very large number of displaced persons (IDP’s) in various Internally Displaced Persons camps and then Lagos, a peaceful state having just 45% PVC collection.

rexbuton:
Hello..
Jonathan's loss at the polls has come and gone, It is actually a blessing in disguise, it saves us the pain of answering every stupid question on what our 'brother' was doing.. But I will tell you that we have been conned in the biggest scam in our history. As a bini man I am pleased with the outcome of the elections and the role religion played in it, but truly Jonathan was not pro-active. He is the sort of happy-go-lucky guys that you find sometimes and surrounded himself with people of questionable character, Nigeria doesn't need that kind of person. Nigeria needs an authoritarian government that would clamp down on press freedom and violate rights. Jonathan has been eased out and I am pleased for the following reasons:

1. The governance of Nigeria is a poisoned chalice :- Not even a theocracy can solve the ills in this country, and everyday the problems become worse. From unemployment to corruption to Power to Environment. And these problems are global problems, that we cant solve. Verily I say unto you, Buhari will not fix a single problem in this country, he will be continually overwhelmed and if he is honest enough he will scream that there are forces in his cabinet sabotaging his plans. In fact let's wait till inauguration before discussing this.. But there is this popular misconception that elected public officers are most corrupt but I put it to anyone that the most corrupt persons in the country are in the civil service. The permanent secretaries and directors sit on so much corruption that they can't afford to stand up even for a minute. Elected public officers just steal money, ministries have institutionalized corruption, the type that even the executive cannot understand completely. Such as that of NNPC and it's subsidiaries. The report did not indict any person, instead it indicted the NNPC working model, if we had access to NPDC's accounts we would have protested for it's immediate closure

2. America is trying to further divide the rich and poor in the world by taking away means of self reliance. Over time, countries who have moved from underdeveloped to developed status have a currency which they trade with. At times it is human resources e.g. China, India, other times it is Crude oil as seen in South America and the gulf oil states. With free-falling oil prices as schemed by the world powers, most countries would not have the means to pursue meaningful development. Buhari has already come out to say that the oil prices are not favorable for his policies. But he should remember that the price had started falling even before his election victory and he used if for his campaigns.

3. I live in the North, these people are extremely helpful and friendly, Jonathan did a lot here.. The southerners who voted buhari continue to argue that Jonathan was daft, we agree. Considering the fact that he sited 9 out of 12 universities in the north, and shipped fertilizers there to boost their farming drive, the well said Almajiri schools anthem and employment in the civil service. The thank you message from the North was echoed throughout the north :: "VOTE OUT THE INFIDEL".. That was the easiest election campaign message ever.. It was more efficient than promises of electricity, Agricultural development, Water, Waste management, trips to the moon e.t.c. That message is your surest way to get to Abuja. Do not tell me about how the north voted jonathan in 2011, minus the fact that the PDP rigging machine rigged the election, the Buhari project was not yet mature. BUt his post election comments about soaking baboons proved to the North that he was the right man.
Jonathan did not do anything in the south, he trusted his brothers, even on the eve of his election betrayals they still voted for him but it wasn't enough. If Jonathan had not rigged the election figures in the north, the results would have been more disgraceful but would have been a real reflection of what happened there.

It was just an agenda to kick him out after 4 years, from the BH insurgency to the Chibok girls, Sanusi's allegations and the other wahala were part of the grand plan but Jonathan was too busy trying to solve them individually without thinking if they were all connected afterall.

NEW DEVELOPMENTS
It is however pertinent to note at this time that Boko Haram has gone to bed.. We are happy and sad at the same time, happy because we can finally stop having a page on BBC and CNN for the wrong reasons. And I'm sad due to the strange timing of their cessation of hostilities. As innocent as my humble heart, it still tries not to link the BH cease fire with the election results. BH is crumbling faster than a pack of cards, today 200 girls are released tomorrow 190 girls.. Let us just say it was due to Jonathan's dying bed wishes with his last chakra, but even America during her occupation of Iraq did not achieve large scale victories like these even in more favorable terrain. A few might still argue that a handful of bombings here and there still occur; this is what I will refer to as tapering. In pharmacodynamics, when administering a drug especially and endogenous substance such as a hormone, you don't just stop the drug once, instead you gradually reduce the dosage so that the body's natural production mechanism will take over. If BH had just stopped on the sunday after elections, the uproar would have been too much.. This goes to show how much people are willing to sacrifice their kin just to achieve an agenda. Anyways the NE has a fairly large christian population so no harm done.

Concerning the issue of permanent voters card, i see it as a means to constantly disenfranchise or underenfranchise the south. The figures polled by the north will continually be put forward with additions in every subsequent election. A time will be reached and they will tell you that the population in gombe is thrice that of Bendel and Rivers. And their methods are very systematical and carefully arranged. The Kaduna state government has just told us that over 3.5 Million children were immunized on sunday, just kaduna state. I don't need to press home the handiness of these immunization figures. But keep in mind that they will be used in a few years as reference points. I won't even be surprised if Buhari commissions a census in the guise of the former being unreliable. The census figures will just be like our election results. When elections come, they will vote their kin and use traitors here or the very intelligent progressives to garner their 25% and move on.
Gani Adams, speaking at a Press Conference at Ikeja, queried how 90% PVC collection in Boko Haram affected states became possible despite the insecurity and a very large number of displaced persons (IDP’s) in various Internally Displaced Persons camps and then Lagos, a peaceful state having just 45% PVC collection.

According to Gani Adams, the inequality in PVC collection between peaceful states and stats battling insecurity is a curious case that goes beyond the thinking imagination of a reasonable mind which is clouded with evil intention.

With 30,000 fraudulent polling units in the Northern region and not creating any additional polling unit in the South, designated as voting centers and having being heavily criticized by some eminent Northern elders, this increased the voter number in the north considerably
“In a Normal and sane nation, this singular act is a subversion of popular interest which should have earned massive condemnation. We also saw the massive PVC collection figures in war ravaged areas and comparing them with peaceful areas doesn't ake any sense at all.

In fact the elections were paradoxical.. If the north had massively voted Jonathan and we in the south massively rigged him out, it would have been easier to accept and understand. Today the South SOUTH and South-east even the south has nothing to remember jonathan for.. Jonathan is not a hero, Jonathan failed us

Brothers, real smartness is not the ability to win online arguments, it is your ability to determine what happens around you. We must learn from the mistakes of Ironsi and Jonathan, and decide our fate.

asamaigho:
howcome u guys turn a blind eye to Jonathan's maladministration and at dsame time expect a sane nigerian to vote for him? what do u guys take nigeria for?

change has come and u beta lick it wounds asap move in d direction of change.

IcecoldDon:
Dude.....as a southerner like yourself, are you trying to say that his actions as president whatsoever should not be taken into account but he should be voted in just because he is our brother??

Did u factor in that if he had say performed in the south west and mid belt maybe according to his 2011 campaign promises.....nothing the north would have done that would have stopped him from winning.

I see that even in defeat his and his supporters obsession with allocating blame and shifting responsibilities still persist.

Ironically, they are still the ones x- raying every campaign promise by Buhari for possible failure. Hypocrisy of the highest order if u ask me.

ayokellany:
*** It must be noted that you have gone completely MAD if we can't refer the past "2011 election" to compare n draw conclusion on 2015 elections. I mean I dropped out of the university but understood logic to always learn from the past. It's baffling a graduate like you lack such basic knowledge. It is time you give up making senseless excuses for Jonathan and admit that he is indeed a failure. Would Jonathan have lost the election if boko haram was as subdued as it now since 2013 ? Oduahgate, pension, bribery, Bart Nanji PHCN privatisation, immigration death scandal etc would all these earn Jonathan more votes ?

abduljabbar4:
How was the PVC distribution unfair and why do you think the north created the boko haram for political gains? I need a concrete answer.
Daz oll

Osode:
At last..
Someone with real Depth.
I've noticed that only some yoruba's, and SE and SS'ners who live, (or have lived) ..or even mostly frequent here up north on some bussiness have any SLIGHT CLUE what the real issues are.
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Very Indepth..
Thanks once again.

Osode:
At last..
Someone with real Depth.
I've noticed that only some yoruba's, and SE and SS'ners who live, (or have lived) ..or even mostly frequent here up north on some bussiness have any SLIGHT CLUE what the real issues are.
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Very Indepth..
Thanks once again.

OreMI22:
[size=16pt]CONFAB approved a 50% derivation principle.What needs to happen now is a guerrilla warfare against oil pipelines, installations and personnel.[/size]

TRUTHTOPOWER:
We are now to believe that Nigerians are too docile to demand for social change after 16 years of PDP govt. That 30 million youths are unemployed is irrelevant. that kidnapping and armed robbery are ravaging southern states are pointless. So the point is just religion and ethnicity. How about allegations of corruption. of course no one was caught with a smoking gun so what the heck? How can overhead budget for a mere 5 % of the population be 90% whilst the whole country gets 10%? It is simple it is better to spend 4 billion on feeding rich people at the villa than to build 400,000 clinics to save lives. Why should we hold Jonathan accountable when other leaders failed us in time past? But I ask at what point should we say enough is enough if we cannot do this after a man has spent about 5 years as our leader still giving excuses for power failure, insecurity, unemployment, fuel importation, etc. Conspiracy is part of politics but a leader who is proactive will make himself accountable to the people so that if his conspirators succeed like Brutus against Ceaser, his legacy will stand him out. When GEJ goes, I wander how many villagers will point to his legacy after six months. In the west we are still talking of Awo legacy I spite of colonial struggle, trial and jail term. Every household can point to something of enduring value. I do admit that some elements want change for divergent reasons, notwithstanding, change is socially and politically logical given lacklustre leadership by PDP in the last 16 years.

IcecoldDon:
Dude.....as a southerner like yourself, are you trying to say that his actions as president whatsoever should not be taken into account but he should be voted in just because he is our brother??

Did u factor in that if he had say performed in the south west and mid belt maybe according to his 2011 campaign promises.....nothing the north would have done that would have stopped him from winning.

I see that even in defeat his and his supporters obsession with allocating blame and shifting responsibilities still persist.

Ironically, they are still the ones x- raying every campaign promise by Buhari for possible failure. Hypocrisy of the highest order if u ask me.

asamaigho:
howcome u guys turn a blind eye to Jonathan's maladministration and at dsame time expect a sane nigerian to vote for him? what do u guys take nigeria for?

change has come and u beta lick it wounds asap move in d direction of change.