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Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by dhardline(m): 4:07pm On May 10, 2015
Yes.Just as God changed his will for king Hezekiah but that singular act of not allowing Gods will to be done brought about the birth of Manasseh and the bible recorded that Manasseh did that which was evil in the sight if the Lord,after the abominations of the heathen.This made the lord visit his anger upon the jerusalem and judah.Read 2kings chapter 20 and 21.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by sniperwolf(m): 4:07pm On May 10, 2015
SuperSuave:
I think Hezikiah changed Gods will in the bible.
Yes! I was going to mention this
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by johnydon22(m): 4:07pm On May 10, 2015
People who believe everything is god's will but still pray are like they are saying god your will is not good enough, please change it makes perfect sense grin
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by supereagle(m): 4:07pm On May 10, 2015
SuperSuave:
I think Hezikiah changed Gods will in the bible.
Yes. He later gave birth to Manese , a wicked ruler , that is outcome of not give in to God's will.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by SQLmastar(m): 4:07pm On May 10, 2015
So This orijin guy dey go church sef huh
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by InZA: 4:08pm On May 10, 2015
At the very basic level.... It's not. But there's something I've come to believe as the Good will ... Permissive will and Perfect will of God .

I think it's possible to pray your intention towards the first two and make it flexible enough to suit you, but it's impossible to pray your way into effecting a change when God's perfect will is involved - Case in point, praying for the devil to be born again. Nothing can change God's mind about the devil going to perish in the lake of fire.


My personal thoughts.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by folabayo1(f): 4:08pm On May 10, 2015
Praying for wat u wish/want doesn't mean u can change God's will cos even if God answer ur prayers it is still his will..prayers only make God answers fast
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by bid4rich(m): 4:08pm On May 10, 2015
There are two types of will here. God's perfect will and permissive will. If you want His will changed, He gives you permissive will.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Juzzybabe(f): 4:09pm On May 10, 2015
Humm...this question is tough ooo cheesy
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by lepasharon(f): 4:09pm On May 10, 2015
lovely diagram smiley

Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by HopeAlive14(m):
There is a Perfect Will of God for us.

Often times God grants us "permissive will" due to our insistence and impatience.

It is far best and glorious for God's Perfect Will to prevail rather than His permissive will.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Isiterere(m): 4:10pm On May 10, 2015
haibe:
I doubt.. although ple say ur destiny is ur hands but there is this primary control over u which u just have to submit to
GBAM
what will be will surely be....
ALL IZZ WELL.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Dbboy(m): 4:10pm On May 10, 2015
If there ever was a God will why then do you waste your time praying.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Nobody: 4:10pm On May 10, 2015
Why not? Hezekiah did it, didn't he? Jabez did it. God forgave David, didn't he?
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by anwo247: 4:11pm On May 10, 2015
Nope!
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by cold(m): 4:11pm On May 10, 2015
Ruq:
I thought they said he has everything all planned out, why then expect prayers to change'em. Since he knows the begining and the end. What's the use of prayers.
Guess you beat me to it
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by CyberEBOLA(m): 4:12pm On May 10, 2015
WHO IS GODhuh
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by lampardizik(m): 4:12pm On May 10, 2015
so Origin sef dey go churchhuh undecided tongue
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Jesufrend(m): 4:13pm On May 10, 2015
Hezekiah changed Godswill
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Raziii(m): 4:14pm On May 10, 2015
I don't think God's will can be changed! Even the bible made us to understand that b4 we were born God knew who we will become...and also he's will is always that of good...but because the devil will always fight to change that will...dats y we always pray... And we pray not for God to change his will for us but for him to make it come to pass!
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Nobody:
Some can be changed because God is merciful while some can not be changed because dat could b d best option for us
just like hezekiah who's wish was granted and christ who's wish wasnt granted despite his prayers.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by missKiffy(f): 4:15pm On May 10, 2015
freeradical:
Why in the world would you want to change Gods will. Don't you know his will is always better for us
I agree
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Nobody: 4:16pm On May 10, 2015
Jackeeh:
Yes. God's will for hezekiah was death at the time. but hezekiah wept and prayed an additional 15 years into his life. That's the reason I get mad when people give up and let themselves die before their time. I've survived a terminal illness and I'm still alive. I'm not in a hurry to die. They that know their God shall do exploits. When you know what God's word says concerning your situation and you hold Him by His words, He has no choice than to comply because na Him talk am. and Him no dey lie. Christianity is sweet.
You survived that illness not because you changed God's will but only because your time is not up. Bro, if your time is up, if you like pray from now till infinity.... You will leave this earth. This is one of the reasons I pity Christians... Ignorance at its peak. So, you really think that all these people that die in accidents that none of them prayed before embarking on a journey? Or in Nepal where ten thousand died? You guys dont really understand what is happening in this world.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Nobody: 4:17pm On May 10, 2015
Changing God's will is same as changing God. If you think you can change God's will, you are not far from taking the place of God.
God can change his judgement but not his will.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Toks2008(m): 4:17pm On May 10, 2015
Orijin101:
During our Sunday school service in church today, this question was being asked by one of our members and it leads to a serious argument. So, I've decided to share the same question with you guys also.

Is it possible to change God's will through prayer?
GOD

It is your duty to define the path you want to prosper and GOD will grant you the will to achieve it and if you choose to go the wrong way, GOD will honour your choice and let you be.
your opinions are highly welcome.
cc: lalasticlala
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by lampardizik(m): 4:17pm On May 10, 2015
Isiterere:
GBAM
what will be will surely be....
ALL IZZ WELL.
My brother if you don't take matters into your own hand,things go just dey anyhow and what will be will not be ooogringrin
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by mystery19: 4:18pm On May 10, 2015
Yes it is possible goin by wat transpired btw God n hezekiah
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by bebe2(f): 4:18pm On May 10, 2015
Too many deluded folks in naija cry
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Gwazah(m): 4:19pm On May 10, 2015
Kay17:
It should depend on how perfect God's will is. Wills do change in order to avert error, and if God sees his will contains errors, prayers might shed light to this and God would then change.
Did I heard u saying God's will contains error? I don't think he do mistake pls. Someone should correct me if I am wrong.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Timmytimmy:
I think the term "God's will" is rather ambiguous and would serve different purposes in different contexts.

If we study through scripture, we can however understand somethings about the will of God.

1) God has immediate wills that is usually revealed and might even be changed by prayer usually to detrimental events.

Case study: Hezekiah's llifespan

2) God has a sovereign will that belongs to Him by reason of His Omniscience. The sovereign will of God is the mirror through which the almighty views the universe. Hezekiah's prayer was already part of the sovereign will of God. Man has no business in the sovereign will of God.

Case study : Acts 4 : 28

They did what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen.

This doesn't in any way absolve of sin or justify wrong doing. It is simply an acknowledgement that God is Omniscient.

4) The whole purpose of man's life is to search out the will of God and do it. God is perfect and just and will never make a mistake. That is the purpose of Romans 12:2

Hezekiah's life in the fifteen years was a major part of the events that triggered the destruction of Israel years later.

5) We have no power to force or impose our will on God. He may step aside and allow our will because he wants to show us the folly of our ways but scripture doesn't teach that God will allow us control Him.

I'll answer respectfully laid down contentions.
Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by beyoncausme: 4:19pm On May 10, 2015
well....it depends......

Re: Is It Possible To Change God's Will Through Prayer ? by Mmalisticmma(f): 4:20pm On May 10, 2015
WHEN GOD TOLD HEZEKIAH THAT HE SHOULD PREPARE HIMSELF BECAUSE HE'LL DIE, HE REJECTED HIMSELF TO SEEK GOD'S FACE VIA PRAYERS & THEREBY GOD REVERSES HIS WILL THROUGH HIS PRAYERS.
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