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Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by asapeola(m): 11:40pm On May 15, 2015
barcanista:
Oga e be like say you get your own method of interpretation o....

“(1) The President may – (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions;
“(2) The powers of the President under subsection (1) of this section [size=15pt]shall[/size] be exercised by him [size=15pt]after[/size] consultation with the Council of State.”


Read Very well... The Constitution used the word SHALL and not MAY. It means without the go-ahead of the Council, the President CAN'T approve any pardon.
N wat wld the council of state do if they say no n d president thinks otherwisehuh Oga interpreter, can u pls shed more lythuh
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 11:40pm On May 15, 2015
asapeola:
There is a practical diff btw conviction n actual serving! He was sentenced to sum two two-years jail which were to run concurrently n thereafter backdated to 2007!!! In actual sense he ddnt do any jail time!

This is what ribadu had to say: "It is the final nail that tells the story of fighting corruption in Nigeria today," said Nuhu Ribadu, a former police officer and corruption fighter who led the Alamieyeseigha case. "I'm really sad. I'm sad for my country."
Ribadu's reaction was not whether or not Alamesiegha was convicted, it was purely on the STATE PARDON. All Governors, Fformer Heads, CJN, Speaker Tambawal, Senate President, Former CJN and the President are to take responsibility for that.

Meanwhile, The council also granted a state pardon to another ex-convict and former head of the Bank of the North, Shettima Bulama. Non of you talk about him...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 11:43pm On May 15, 2015
CyberWolf:
Bro I de feel you...No be small thing oo grin grin
This thread is really an eye-opener for some people though I am not surprised by their hypocrisy and double standard. They represent no change other than ethnoreligious change of Aso Rock's occupant
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 11:44pm On May 15, 2015
asapeola:
N wat wld the council of state do if they say no n d president thinks otherwisehuh Oga interpreter, can u pls shed more lythuh
And who told you that it is the President that nominates who should receive state pardon and who should not? Oga did the President point gun at anybody? Go and ask your APC Governors
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by angelsing(m): 11:45pm On May 15, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Don't mind them...where's my people? Passingshot, angelsing, philips70, agabaI23 , AhmedMustapha, theVoice, MaziOmenuko and other brethren...come let's chat a course devoid of selective justice and prosecution...
As far as barcanista is concern he has know point or say in this, he actually kept quiet when he was still at the other side when it was reported that Buhari said Abacha was not corrupt...I will not support buhari over that statement which I believe was wrong for him to have said. Though I can still understand why he said so when he was put on the spotlight. probably due to his relationship with the family of the Abacha he could not Say it directly when asked!...Same case apply with Ezekwesili when she was asked if Obasanjo was corrupt...imagine if they ask Ngozi okonjo iweala was asked if jonathan is corrupt, what do u think her response will be?...That said, I think Buhari was wrong to have said abacha was not corrupt, he probably shud have answered the question diplomatically..
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by CyberWolf: 11:54pm On May 15, 2015
Mynd44:
You don't get it. GEJ is so useless and redundant as a president that I was willing to support Atiku. That is how much of a failure he is.

Which is why when people said APC won based on propaganda, I say PDP lost because they failed. There was nothing tangible to point to that GEJ has done.
Well bro you have a point but you also have to understand that Nigeria's problem is so complex that no matter what GEJ does, it will be so insignificant to make an impact..As a human he is, he makes mistakes sometimes and the fact that majority of Nigerians didn't give him all the support he needs makes things..Well I'm really interested in what makes you think that Atiku is better than Buhari..Any reason?
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by angelsing(m): 12:02am On May 16, 2015
Barcanista you have lost all moral ground to criticise Buhari right now..You kept quiet all this while when u were campaigning for Buhari, u overlooked all this because It does not serve ur purpose then...You can cry all u want now, it won't change anything because you are probably the person people think you are...I can argue all day with whynotthetruth when I have the time over whatever thread he post at list I know he is true to his cause not like you who keeps flip floping all over the place for selfish reason....Face your blog and promote it rather than start a witch hunt that won't change the fact that Your late support for GEJ cost u ur nairaland credibility!...Cry baby Barcanista...not your fan anymore!
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 12:03am On May 16, 2015
CyberWolf:
Well bro you have a point but you also have to understand that Nigeria's problem is so complex that no matter what GEJ does, it will be so insignificant to make an impact..As a human he is, he makes mistakes sometimes and the fact that majority of Nigerians didn't give him all the support he needs makes things..Well I'm really interested in what makes you think that Atiku is better than Buhari..Any reason?
You just quoted a complete hypocrite.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 12:04am On May 16, 2015
angelsing:
Barcanista you have lost all moral ground to criticise Buhari right now..You kept quiet all this while when u were campaigning for Buhari, u overlooked all this because It does not serve ur purpose then...You can cry all u want now, it won't change anything because you are probably the person people think you are...I can argue all day with whynotthetruth when I have the time over whatever thread he post at list I know he is true to his cause not like you who keeps flip floping all over the place for selfish reason....Face your blog and promote it rather than start a witch hunt that won't change the fact that Your late support for GEJ cost u ur nairaland credibility!...Cry baby Barcanista...not your fan anymore!
Epistle and Tears of a pained Sai Buhari fanatic? cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Mynd44(mod): 12:15am On May 16, 2015
CyberWolf:
Well bro you have a point but you also have to understand that Nigeria's problem is so complex that no matter what GEJ does, it will be so insignificant to make an impact..As a human he is, he makes mistakes sometimes and the fact that majority of Nigerians didn't give him all the support he needs makes things..Well I'm really interested in what makes you think that Atiku is better than Buhari..Any reason?
I did not say Atiku is better. I said GEJ made me even begin to look towards an Atiku presidency.

Like even if it is Atiku, I don't mind as long as we get a change in how this country is governed
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by angelsing(m): 12:15am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
Epistle and Tears of a pained Sai Buhari fanatic? cheesy cheesy cheesy
hahahahah....Buhari fanatic?, far from it...irony of life, you are the one crying all over nairaland everyday over the epistle of buhari this buhari that....It is obvious you are the pained one here...How best to describe any sour loser, just cream barcanista and there u have it.....Cry from now till 2019, we will continue to bath with ur tears...Thanks once again for convincing me to vote Buhari, I will forever be grateful....Not your fan anymore!
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by socialmediaman: 2:09am On May 16, 2015
If this was what Buhari said then there's no issue here. If you have a case against Abacha then take him to the law court and jail him, not level accusations just like GEJ was doing to Tinubu through AIT and the hate documentary. Don't just accuse someone of being corrupt even 10yrs after when you're the government who has all the evidence, that was Buhari's point in all that.

General Muhammadu Buhari
"All the allegations levelled against the personality of the late Gen. Sani Abacha will remain allegations. It is 10 years now, things should be over by now." “ten years after Abacha, those allegations remain unproven because of lack of facts”.
Whynotthetruth:
There's life in siding with the truth and he just did...
why not prove it to be a lie by bringing another evidence to counter him abi u no gethuh
sorry...e dey pain well well gringringringringrin
socialmediaman and obi4eze make una come yarn una own gringrin
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 7:04am On May 16, 2015
socialmediaman:
If this was what Buhari said then there's no issue here. If you have a case against Abacha then take him to the law court and jail him, not level accusations just like GEJ was doing to Tinubu through AIT and the hate documentary. Don't just accuse someone of being corrupt even 10yrs after when you're the government who has all the evidence, that was Buhari's point in all that.
Do you understand what you quoted?
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by unphilaz(m): 7:18am On May 16, 2015
LubricatingOil:
Usless thread from a poor protection seeking nonentity.

Had Gbawe gave this hungry toad protection, the goon would have been singing another song. Sucks to be a jobless rat for real.
It would be nice for rejoinder showing how he erred and making this post "useless"
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by unphilaz(m): 7:20am On May 16, 2015
midolian:
Buhari isn't God, so u don't expect him to be perfect in his actions and statements. He can't always be right. Only God is perfect.. You seriously need to try something else cos you are fast becoming a bad writer out of misplaced hate.

*Spits on thread*
Apply same to GEJ

GEJ isn't God, so u don't expect him to be perfect in his actions and statements. He can't always be right. Only God is perfect..
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by socialmediaman: 7:23am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
Do you understand what you quoted?
Yes I do. I also want to add that he may not have been well briefed on the extent of Abacha's corruption case.

**They say Babangida stole $12 billion dollars from gulf oil windfall, everyone knows agrees he did it or at least he was very corrupt, but where's the evidence? Would you, as a professional or graduate, go public and call him a thief when there has been no established evidence or indictment?**

Meanwhile more shame to a governmet that will call you corrupt with evidence, without charging you with corruption and punishing you according to law...
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by unphilaz(m): 7:30am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
"I brought General Buhari into politics; It’s not that I want to expose him. We did everything to support and encourage him. He called my son Mohammed to join the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC. They rejected Mohammed by force during the governorship race. This was the trend, not only in Kano, but also in Katsina, Bauchi and other states. I think it is not healthy for democracy; not just because of Mohammed but for the smooth play of democratic norms and values."[/b]- Maryam Abacha, April 10, 2014
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/158471-interview-how-i-brought-buhari-into-politics-only-for-him-to-humiliate-my-son-maryam-abacha.html
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

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Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 7:30am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
7 Years after making the statement, the incorruptible Muhammadu Buhari is yet to apologise to Nigerians, neither has he withdraw his statement. We can all conclude that Buhari is as incorruptible as sani Abacha


cc: Truckpusher, Whynotthetruth, Temitemi1, Anonimi, Dearpreye, SeverusSnape, Francizy Mogidi
why dont you add that Jonathan gave abacha a post humus award?

do you expect someone that worked with abacha to come out and say he is corrupt?
just like oby, he would be termed an hypocrite by the same people like you.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Demdem(m): 7:34am On May 16, 2015
CyberWolf:
In this kind of thread, you will never see their co-criminals here like Gbawe,Obiagelli,passingshot,Omenka,pendy97,Demdem,egift,etc..Bunch of ediotic hypocrite angry angry ...I have said it before..If Buhari wants us to take him serious with his anti-corruption mantra, he should first convince us that Abacha is corrupt...Anything short of that amounts to witch-hunting.. angry

Fool, u are running mad ooo. Buhari obviously got this wrong and so what? Whoever said buhari is always right. It still doesn't negates the fact that the General himself is not corrupt and that's a fact the protection seeker has always held. This is the ultimate. Can u swear with ur balls and unborn seeds that Jonah-daft and household aren't?
Buhari is human and prone to errors and a lesser evil to Jonah-daft and Nigerians have made their choice.
Go and die fool.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 7:40am On May 16, 2015
unphilaz:
Apply same to GEJ

GEJ isn't God, so u don't expect him to be perfect in his actions and statements. He can't always be right. Only God is perfect..
You can easily spot hypocrisy here. Jonathan is the God that is not prone to mistake abi? By the way, what is the mistake here? Was he blind, deaf or dumb that he wasn't aware that Nigeria have recovered a huge sum from the Abachas and the Abachas also agreed to surrender $1b? These events happened before they made the statement.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Demdem(m): 7:40am On May 16, 2015
unphilaz:
Apply same to GEJ

GEJ isn't God, so u don't expect him to be perfect in his actions and statements. He can't always be right. Only God is perfect..

U must be on Crack. For one goof of the General, Jonah-daft has dozens of goofs. It's foolish to compare.
Even in their executive offices they have been privileged to head, buhari constantly comes out clean while the drunkard comes stained.
Jonah-daft is human no doubt but also a criminal governance wise. It's foolish to compare both.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by unphilaz(m): 7:45am On May 16, 2015
Our source revealed to us that the Council of State, which is comprised of the President, Vice President, all state governors, former Presidents, the Chief Justice of the Federation, the Senate President and Speaker, amongst others, unanimously approved the list of those pardoned today http://247ureports.com/council-of-state-grants-diya-bulama-yaradua-alamieyeseigha-state-pardon/
Chei so all along
former presidents
All state governors (APC govnors included)
Even Tambuwal was part of the pardon team

approved the pardon of not only dsp alam but others, but the propaganda machine simply painted it as a single decision of GEJ so as to show that GEJ was tribal and sectional. Chai Bacanista thank you for bringing this up now i know!
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 7:48am On May 16, 2015
The North will always defend one of theirs, even in the glare of overwhelming and objective evidence of documented embezzlement of funds and gross misappropriation of resources. That's their understanding of loyalty.

It didn't come to me a surprise when Saint Granpa and IBB declared late Abacha wasnt corrupt and never stole. That's the way it works up North.

The SS is yet to understand the political undercurrents that pull the nation. Let them continue!

God bless you, my brother.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by unphilaz(m): 7:52am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
Oga e be like say you get your own method of interpretation o....

“(1) The President may – (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions;
“(2) The powers of the President under subsection (1) of this section [size=15pt]shall[/size] be exercised by him [size=15pt]after[/size] consultation with the Council of State.”


Read Very well... The Constitution used the word SHALL and not MAY. It means without the go-ahead of the Council, the President CAN'T approve any pardon.
Bacanista come oh e bi like say you pack books for table if they present like this, you use microscope show them say wetin they one show na lie. i hail oh i de follow
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 7:57am On May 16, 2015
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Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 7:57am On May 16, 2015
unphilaz:
Bacanista come oh e bi like say you pack books for table if they present like this, you use microscope show them say wetin they one show na lie. i hail oh i de follow
One need to look beyond their propaganda. The media had portrayed it like it was an entirely Jonathan's decision which unfortunately everyone fell for.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 8:07am On May 16, 2015
dearpreye:
The North will always defend one of theirs, even in the glare of overwhelming and objective evidence of documented embezzlement of funds and gross misappropriation of resources. That's their understanding of loyalty.

It didn't come to me a surprise when Saint Granpa and IBB declared late Abacha wasnt corrupt and never stole. That's the way it works up North.

The SS is yet to understand the political undercurrents that pull the nation. Let them continue!

God bless you, my brother.
But you're accusing the North of exactly what y'all are doing.....despite the shortcomings and failures of GEJ you guys still wanted him to remain in power with the 'he's our son let him stay there' mentality
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Mogidi: 8:16am On May 16, 2015
I came late to this party, damn.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 8:18am On May 16, 2015
dearpreye:
The North will always defend one of theirs, even in the glare of overwhelming and objective evidence of documented embezzlement of funds and gross misappropriation of resources. That's their understanding of loyalty.
It didn't come to me a surprise when Saint Granpa and IBB declared late Abacha wasnt corrupt and never stole. That's the way it works up North.
The SS is yet to understand the political undercurrents that pull the nation. Let them continue!
God bless you, my brother.
The irony of it is that thee Press suddenly went dumb to ask #BabaOneChance whether he still hold on to the view of Abacha's Sainthood. I won't be surprised if a forensic audit of Abacha's regime implicate Buhari.

The same way they are shielding Emir Thief Sanusi.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 8:20am On May 16, 2015
Mogidi:
I came late to this party, damn.
the party is still on cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Mogidi: 8:22am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
Oga e be like say you get your own method of interpretation o....

“(1) The President may – (a) grant any person concerned with or convicted of any offence created by an Act of the National Assembly a pardon, either free or subject to lawful conditions;
“(2) The powers of the President under subsection (1) of this section [size=15pt]shall[/size] be exercised by him [size=15pt]after[/size] consultation with the Council of State.”


Read Very well... The Constitution used the word SHALL and not MAY. It means without the go-ahead of the Council, the President CAN'T approve any pardon.
Wow barca you be badt guy.
Re: "Saint" Sani Abacha By Generals Muhammadu Buhari And Friends by Nobody: 8:29am On May 16, 2015
barcanista:
The irony of it is that thee Press suddenly went dumb to ask #BabaOneChance whether he still hold on to the view of Abacha's Sainthood. I won't be surprised if a forensic audit of Abacha's regime implicate Buhari.

The same way they are shielding Emir Thief Sanusi.
Media? Wake up. It's all a bigger game.
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