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Only A Fool Will Say..... by BrotherJohn: 7:50pm On May 17, 2015
I recently had a run-in on YouTube with a naturalist professor who bagged his PhD in religious studies. Respected in both Japan and USA for his academic excellence.

Professor with fantastic academic achievements? Yes. Knowledge of God? Zero! Atheist....? Of course, they are living in denial or should say it the Bible-way? They are experiencing a strong delusion, for denying EVIDENCE.

This was curled from a long the debate I had with him, for which he could not reply but ran away after giving vague replies that can be summed as: "All these points you presented have been written in other religions before the Bible was written."

Good, I said, "Show me ONE of those texts as proof that the Bible was plagiarized." He could NOT provide just one!
http://brotherjohn.org/only-a-fool-will-say-there-is-no-god/

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Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by BrotherJohn: 7:51pm On May 17, 2015
@Braveheart, thanks for encouraging me to share it on this forum. God Bless you.

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Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by BraveGuy: 8:33pm On May 17, 2015
Thanks Brother John, I thoroughly enjoyed this latest installation of yours, it was quite refreshing.

Now, where are the atheists on this forum? Away on holidays? Ok, while at the beach, enjoy this:

Fifth Truth – Claim 5:
Hebrews 11:3 enlightens, “By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.”[size=12pt][/size]

Science came to this realization when the atom was discovered. Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements. Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes. Atoms are the basic building blocks of matter that make up everyday objects. A desk, the air, even you are made up of atoms! There are 90 naturally occurring kinds of atoms. Scientists in labs have been able to make about 25 more.

http://education.jlab.org/atomtour/
& http://education.jlab.org/atomtour/listofparticles.html

I would like to add what you shared with me on skype, too:
Atoms are the building blocks of elements, elements are the building blocks of molecules, molecules form chemicals; chemicals combine to form compounds, compounds combine to form cells. Cells combine to form organs, organs combine to form systems; systems combine to form an organism.

The invisible is turned into the visible. This mystery is a showcase of the Invisible God who created the visible (matter/man) from invisible things. How awesome He is!

To the atheists, enjoy!
Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by NumberOne2(m): 12:30am On May 18, 2015
BrotherJohn:
I recently had a run-in on YouTube with a naturalist professor who bagged his PhD in religious studies. Respected in both Japan and USA for his academic excellence.

Professor with fantastic academic achievements? Yes. Knowledge of God? Zero! Atheist....? Of course, they are living in denial or should say it the Bible-way? They are experiencing a strong delusion, for denying EVIDENCE.

This was curled from a long the debate I had with him, for which he could not reply but ran away after giving vague replies that can be summed as: "All these points you presented have been written in other religions before the Bible was written."

Good, I said, "Show me ONE of those texts as proof that the Bible was plagiarized." He could NOT provide just one!
http://brotherjohn.org/only-a-fool-will-say-there-is-no-god/

Nice article.

Man has always known there is a God. Some call him force, aliens, nature, god etc. This I can understand. but the most pathetic ones are those that claim there is no God. At a time I used to wonder how someone could be in such a state of Denial with all 5 senses intact and are considered medically sound. The worst kind of deceit is self deceit.

Well, I dont bother engaging Atheist anymore cos they already know. A musician said "The eyes see only what it wants to see". If a man (medically sound) can deny that the sun shines, I will not be the one to tell him otherwise. He can enjoy his "non sun shining state". It doesnt stop the sun from shining brightly everyday.

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Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by BraveGuy: 9:10am On May 18, 2015
NumberOne2:

Well, I dont bother engaging Atheist anymore cos they already know. A musician said "The eyes see only what it wants to see". If a man (medically sound) can deny that the sun shines, I will not be the one to tell him otherwise. He can enjoy his "non sun shining state". It doesnt stop the sun from shining brightly everyday.

[size=14pt]Brilliant summary![/size] wink
Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by BraveGuy: 9:14am On May 18, 2015
Seventh Truth – Claim 7:
Act 14:17 – “Nevertheless He did not leave Himself without witness, in that He did good, gave us rain from heaven and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.”


[size=14pt]Joy and gladness understood. Evolution cannot explain emotions. Matter and energy do not feel. Scripture explains that God places gladness in our hearts (Psalm 4:7), and ultimate joy is found only in our Creator’s presence – “in Your presence is fullness of joy” (Psalm 16:11).
Psychology accepts these facts, but cannot explain them scientifically. How does science explain JOY? Yet, we all know what the emotion of joy really is, don’t we?
[/size]

[size=18pt]ATHEISM IS DEAD!!!![/size]
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Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by davien(m): 10:21am On May 18, 2015
Lol....I clicked that link only to go to the usual apologetic of "X professor dumbfounded by Christian" and straw-men derived from misunderstanding of science in general.....I guess these are the tactics of trying to make a "fool" out of a position that's logical..
Normally I'd write an entire page to refute every single word but I've seen that this is a copy-paste job....and I've addressed these blatant lies so many times(from Einstein being a theist to evolalbert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897
..,so I'd just link my responses here based on what I've seen so far..

davien:
you christians like twisting terms "naive" means gullible and in case you didn't know einstein didn't believe in a "god" and he has long stated that the belief in such a "god" is childish
"The word god is for me nothing more
than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the
Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends
which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no
matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/may/12/peopleinscience.religion
www.nairaland.com/2087771/albert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897


DProDG:


First, evolution is not synonymous with atheism.

Second, what your bible tells you is your business. Assuming it's science makes you a laughing stock.

Third, as I've said previously, address what is said and not whether it's plagiarized or not. If you think that laymen cannot 'know stuff' and have to copy off the internet, how is that then important? Are we here to come off as smart or to address opposing views?

Forth, it should be obvious that I'm not arguing theology because it's subjective and it will be stup1d to argue off faith.

Fifth, you keep bringing up you personal experiences as if we're slightly interested.

...Study hard? I cited a few MOOCs and then a couple of YouTube videos which you discredited for...reasons.
. www.nairaland.com/2203280/dont-enough-faith-atheist/15#31803808

davien:
Anything that goes against your fairy tales are ofcourse to you a "lie" so I'm not surprised....
You couldn't think of anything else having admitted common descent....
I'm guessing these sources lie too...and I didn't know fossils lied too..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casineria
http://arrow.latrobe.edu.au:8080/vital/access/manager/Repository/latrobe:19649
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edaphosauridae
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14772019.2011.631042
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caseidae
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinocephalia
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12052-009-0117-4
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pristerognathus
http://dinosaurs.about.com/od/predinosaurreptiles/p/pristerognathus.htm
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynognathus
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7998.1971.tb02189.x/abstract;jsessionid=4CD43ED5C7DE31A9CF6C32A26169B1E0.f02t01
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multituberculata
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1475-4983.00185/abstract
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesiadapis
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v498/n7452/full/nature12200.html
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002%2Fajpa.1330890409
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proconsul_(primate)
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016%2F0047-2484(87)90062-5
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.1330340205/abstract
.......www.nairaland.com/2067183/atheists-stupidity/8#33849714

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Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by Nobody: 10:49am On May 18, 2015
davien:
Lol....I clicked that link only to go to the usual apologetic of "X professor dumbfounded by Christian" and straw-men derived from misunderstanding of science in general.....I guess these are the tactics of trying to make a "fool" out of a position that's logical..
Normally I'd write an entire page to refute every single word but I've seen that this is a copy-paste job....and I've addressed these blatant lies so many times(from Einstein being a theist to evolalbert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897
..,so I'd just link my responses here based on what I've seen so far..

www.nairaland.com/2087771/albert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897

. www.nairaland.com/2203280/dont-enough-faith-atheist/15#31803808

.......www.nairaland.com/2067183/atheists-stupidity/8#33849714

Lol... Why did you interrupt their circle jerk? angry
Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by BraveGuy: 1:03pm On May 18, 2015
Is ANY of you presenting some EVIDENCE?

I can't see what you are presenting that looks like evidence as Brother John presented, his presentation is clean and very clear. So, if you are presenting your evidence that refutes the point presented in that article, make it plain.

ON EINSTEIN.....
No one is claiming Einstein to be a Christian, but he also distanced himself from atheism as well and do not wish to be associated with such ideology. However, maybe I need to point out to you that his theory of relativity is based on assumptions, can you prove an assumption as a scientific evidence?
Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by BraveGuy: 1:12pm On May 18, 2015
davien:
Lol....I clicked that link only to go to the usual apologetic of "X professor dumbfounded by Christian" and straw-men derived from misunderstanding of science in general.....I guess these are the tactics of trying to make a "fool" out of a position that's logical..
Normally I'd write an entire page to refute every single word but I've seen that this is a copy-paste job....and I've addressed these blatant lies so many times(from Einstein being a theist to evolalbert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897
..,so I'd just link my responses here based on what I've seen so far..

www.nairaland.com/2087771/albert-einsteins-answer-existence-god#29759897

. www.nairaland.com/2203280/dont-enough-faith-atheist/15#31803808

.......www.nairaland.com/2067183/atheists-stupidity/8#33849714

NONE of your links shows or proves evolution to be true.

Let me ask you a very simple question.

[size=14pt]Can you prove the EXISTENTIAL truth of those animals you are sending links to, scientifically?[/size]

I am waiting to read your body of evidence, if you have ANY!
Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by davien(m): 4:20pm On May 18, 2015
BraveGuy:


NONE of your links shows or proves evolution to be true.

Let me ask you a very simple question.

[size=14pt]Can you prove the EXISTENTIAL truth of those animals you are sending links to, scientifically?[/size]

I am waiting to read your body of evidence, if you have ANY!
Fundamentally I know the type of person I'm dealing with here...could you answer these very short questions...;
What is evolution?
How does evolution work?
Is evolution concerned with how life began?
And lastly could anyone with objective evidence need or derive any form of "existential truth" from it?

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Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by BraveGuy: 5:29pm On May 18, 2015
davien:
Fundamentally I know the type of person I'm dealing with here...could you answer these very short questions...;
What is evolution?
How does evolution work?
Is evolution concerned with how life began?
And lastly could anyone with objective evidence need or derive any form of "existential truth" from it?

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No, I can't prove evolution. Besides, I never believed in it.
So, you now agree with me that your theory of evolution is one BIG FAT LOOPING LIE!

grin grin grin grin grin

Let me help you with your theory of evolution.
What would a rapist evolve into?

However, I can say that scientists are VERY BUSY experimenting with chimeras and hybrids and very soon, we'll be seeing all these cross-breeding animals that truly cross the boundary set by God. And this would make me make a deduction, which was already prophesied by Jesus Christ: [size=14pt]"And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man." [Luke 17:26][/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30iazTCNRXs

This was common at the time of Noah before God destroyed that world. Currently, they are desensitizing the public through all those Don't be caught off guard!
Re: Only A Fool Will Say..... by Nobody: 5:34pm On May 18, 2015
BraveGuy:


grin grin grin grin grin

No, I can't prove evolution. Besides, I never believed in it.
So, you now agree with me that your theory of evolution is one BIG FAT LOOPING LIE!

grin grin grin grin grin

Let me help you with your theory of evolution.
What would a rapist evolve into?

However, I can say that scientists are VERY BUSY experimenting with chimeras and hybrids and very soon, we'll be seeing all these cross-breeding animals that truly cross the boundary set by God. And this would make me make a deduction, which was already prophesied by Jesus Christ: [size=14pt]"And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man." [Luke 17:26][/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30iazTCNRXs

This was common at the time of Noah before God destroyed that world. Currently, they are desensitizing the public through all those Don't be caught off guard!


An Alex Jones video is a decent way to end any potentially reasonable convo.

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