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Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by denko(m): 9:02am On May 21, 2015 |
Nigerian should be be ready to demand from them whatever they have promised. NO ROOM FOR FAILURE JONATHAN WAS BAD (According to APC) THAT IS WHY YOU WHERE VOTED FOR. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Sunnybobo3(m): 9:03am On May 21, 2015 |
Fashola is handing over the worst debt in the history of Lagos state to Ambode. 10 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by gratiaeo(m): 9:10am On May 21, 2015 |
That's Yoruba hypocrisy 4 u 13 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by denko(m): 9:12am On May 21, 2015 |
We will surely expose them. 2 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by OduaVanguard: 9:18am On May 21, 2015 |
What did FG spend all their debt money on? ? Election bribery? Or the power reform that has left us in perpetual darkness? At least we can see evidence of Lagos state progress. That missing $20billion GEJ and his cronies stole is alone to slash the $60billion external debt by close to half. Be sincere with yourselves pls. Nigerians are not fools, and it's coz of these sort of excesses that he was booted out. 18 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Nobody: 9:23am On May 21, 2015 |
Na dem no |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by denko(m): 9:25am On May 21, 2015 |
These are not facts, let me lecture you about the 20b$ for sometime now Nigeria oil has been selling below Approved oil benchmark by NASS, the money in question should come from excess of benchmark. The question is how would u have excess cash/monies if you sell below your benchmark. You are no to be blame because you don't have these information. OduaVanguard: 8 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Welrez(m): 9:30am On May 21, 2015 |
Nigerians should brace up for reign of excuses! 3 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Nobody: 9:37am On May 21, 2015 |
Sunnybobo3:and nobody is talking about this! 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by abitex577(m): 9:46am On May 21, 2015 |
It is despeakable that, the Federal government is borrowing money to pay salaries. That goes to tell everyone that the economy has been run aground. It is so shameful of GEJ and Ngozi, with all the rebaselined indices they are showing to the world that, they have made so much progress.....alas in their pockets! 5 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Freelancer00(m): 9:49am On May 21, 2015 |
Yes he's going to inherit debts but when u can see the amount of works done with the debt, what canbu say? Unlike the fedora guy and his cronies, the put straw in our reserves and sucked it dry 6 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by denko(m): 9:53am On May 21, 2015 |
Unless u don't use our roads anymore and don't know their status bfor. Freelancer00: 4 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by dustmalik: 9:59am On May 21, 2015 |
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Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Nobody: 10:08am On May 21, 2015 |
OduaVanguard: Missing $20B is an allegation. do not take the politicians word for it. I passed through the Benin-Ore road, I saw the stamp of SURE-P. I even have pics and video. Jonathan worked. 9 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by realjoker(m): 10:20am On May 21, 2015 |
noblezone:what is the lenght of benin-ore road |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Freelancer00(m): 10:29am On May 21, 2015 |
denko:Which of the roads |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by angelsing(m): 10:36am On May 21, 2015 |
Sunnybobo3:What is wrong with you guys?...We are talking about the country not a state..Is lagos state our country?..if u want to talk about lagos debt go and open a thread of that enough of this bringing lagos state issue every time we re talking about Nigeria 3 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by angelsing(m): 10:45am On May 21, 2015 |
Sunnybobo3:This is Fashola's response to the issue of Lagos state debt as written in the punch this morning: It has been said that you are leaving behind about N418bn debt and one wonders what is responsible for the huge debt profile despite the huge revenue generated by the Lagos State Government. I have answered this question many times and it seems people just dwell on debt but in the context of debt, let us look at the assets too. I am leaving behind hundreds of kilometres of roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, courtrooms, social services, skill centres, streetlights and traffic lights. I am leaving behind also people who now have jobs, who did not have jobs seven years ago. I am leaving behind a stronger security force; a stronger LASTMA, a stronger KAI. That is where the money went. I am leaving behind a rail system. I am leaving behind so many assets for the continuity of life. I am also leaving behind a bigger workforce – a better equipped workforce. I think we should talk less about debt and more about development. Lagos State Government still has to continue to raise more money and this takes me to the Internally Generated Revenue that you are talking about. The IGR – standing on its own – is averagely N20 billion. Let us do the math. Some months it is more than that, some months it drops. The monthly allocation from the Federation Account is averagely N10 billion; sometimes it goes up to N11 billion, sometimes it drops to N9 billion. Let us use an average of N10 billion, even though in the last few months it dropped to six and half (N6.5 billion). If we have averagely N30 billion, do the math, divide it by 21 million people. You will get one thousand four hundred and something naira per person in Lagos. It is easy then to say let us collect the IGR you think is big but you are seeing the IGR alone and not seeing the responsibilities. Our population has also grown by forced migration in terms of the Internally Displaced Persons across Nigeria. I just sent a team to somewhere in Apapa where there are people displaced from the North-East of Nigeria in camps. We have to go and intervene; we cannot leave them there without help. The sanitary condition there is horrendous. If we want a government that only deals with what is available, then every month is the government going to tell everybody, ‘go and take your N1,400; go and build your roads, go and build your schools, go and build your hospitals, manage your security?’ But we have to be futuristic, we have to think ahead. The IGR that you also talked about does not come as N20 billion to us. It comes when somebody pays N1 million for land today, somebody pays for his vehicle registration tomorrow, and somebody pays his ground (land) rent. It is because we are accountable that we always announce at the end of the month, ‘this is what we got.’ If we wait for 30 days for the money to accrue, it means we won’t do any work. People should understand that we won’t do any work because the money has not accrued. What do we do? We borrow against it. The banks which we collect it from know that we will pay because the money (IGR) comes through them. So, we take a loan. But we don’t borrow to pay salaries; we don’t borrow for recurrent expenditure, we borrow for capital investments. I cannot go and tell the person who is waiting to take his child to the hospital and there is no hospital space; that they should ‘wait, I am waiting to collect money.’ If I give you the contract to build a hospital, I cannot tell you ‘take one naira today, I am waiting for two naira tomorrow.’ It is not a way to plan construction. You must gather your building materials and you must move men to the site. We borrow from the banks. When the monies come, the banks deduct them. The borrowing you are even talking about, measure it against the assets. We took N275bn bond over eight years. The first thing we had to do was to repay the old bond of N15 billion because the Lagos State Government drew N15 billion out of the N25 billion bond. We had to repay that so that we could take the full benefit of what we were planning to do, which was going to be issued in series. And we did all these in public. What did we use these monies to finance? We used them to finance infrastructure. As the monthly IGR is coming, we are returning 15 per cent of the IGR into a consolidated debt service account. We can’t touch it. Take out 15 per cent of N20bn. We have over a N100 billion in that account to pay the debts. Those who are saying we owe, the system for paying bond is secured. We just paid the second bond, which was the first that I took. We paid it last year. The next bond will be due in 2017 and it is about N60 billion or N70 billion but we have N100 billion in the account. In any event, we have over-secured our liabilities as far as the bonds are concerned. As far as the local short-term loans from banks are concerned, we were able to pay. 1 Like |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 10:53am On May 21, 2015 |
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Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by TheOtherview: 11:01am On May 21, 2015 |
denko: Do you know how many times Fashola's govt, which is not blemish free, had to intervene in areas which fall within the purview of the Federal Government? Who is the greater sinner here? Who should have been setting the standard for others? Governor Babatunde Raji Fashola of Lagos state,western Nigeria, said the central government in Abuja is owing the state N51billion, being costs of repairs carried out on federal roads. He said the debt has been certified.Source I just don't understand the pedestrian commentary being advanced by TANoids. Why shouldn't APC give a clear appraisal of the current situation? Is this not what is done, whenever there is a change of government in saner climes? 2 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by help3852: 11:01am On May 21, 2015 |
OduaVanguard:i thought fashola claims he developed the state with tax payers money. What was the money (debt) use for? Taking into consideration the IGR and monthly allocation. |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Lushore1: 11:02am On May 21, 2015 |
denko: Im sure you know lagos is not borrowing money to pay salaries right? 1 Like |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by help3852: 11:07am On May 21, 2015 |
angelsing:this is why APC will rule Nigeria longer, they know how to paint lies to convince fools, The explanation sounds cool, just call PWC or KPMG to audit Lagos state government account, then your eyes will open. Why have lagos state not been able to pay off some of the loans incurred, even loans collected far back as 2007 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Nobody: 11:18am On May 21, 2015 |
realjoker:Okay, you are aware of it? you sounded as if nothing was done. Incidentally, that was not the only road. The rails are back, Universities were built, Agriculture was revolutionaised. Yet, I guess there is no point listing them. you mind is made up, just like we all do at times. It is natural. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by BarryX(m): 11:31am On May 21, 2015 |
[size=14pt]Hypocrisy stink, justifying the debt situation of Lagos and castigating GEJ is insane [/size] 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Sunnybobo3(m): 12:20pm On May 21, 2015 |
angelsing: Are you not also aware of the assets Jonathan is leaving behind? 1 Like |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by ElFenomeno1: 12:22pm On May 21, 2015 |
noblezone: Jonathan worked... Can you tell us more about what he did? 1 Like |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by ba7man(m): 12:30pm On May 21, 2015 |
The question should be: (1) How much debt does Lagos have compared to the FG?? (2) What did Lagos do with the monies borrowed compared to the FG?? $60 Billion.................can you compare that to Lagos state's debt?? And we all know Lagos State is currently a rare Nigerian economic success due to its borrowing and has structures on ground to finance its debt. Can we say the same about the FG's debt?? 1 Like |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by ba7man(m): 12:37pm On May 21, 2015 |
I've noticed TANoids only produce surface arguements without indepth analysis. "I'm owing N500,000...........He's owing N500,000,000,000"......By their logic, its the same thing to them. 3 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by Nobody: 12:52pm On May 21, 2015 |
OduaVanguard:Odua, answer d question, is Ambode inheriting debt frm Fashola's govt? |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by 9jalyte: 12:56pm On May 21, 2015 |
ElFenomeno1: What exactly is ur motive. U have used propaganda to win, if I were u guys I will talk less. Truth is that APC actually will have very few projects to shine with. Let me be clearer: 1. In road construction: those who travel a lot, (not those that see the world from their cubicle all year and year) will attest to the fact that roads that were major concerns to travellers have been done or awarded/ongoing by GEJ. The Shagamu-ore-benin- asaba-onitsha-owerri &enugu road. Also the Lagos - Ibadan road, the Ilesha - Akure road, Lokoja-Abuja road, Lokoja - ayingba road. The abuja Kaduna road, the Mina-suleja road. The Oshodi Apapa road. The notorious east/west road, the enugu-PH road, and many I can't just mention here. For APC to outshine GEJ in road construction, it will be almost impossible now. 2. Education: for those who are in the university sysyem, they wil agree that the funding the received from GEJ, no president ever tried it. The number of Universities built by GEJ, no president in his of Africa had built the number of universities in the time frame. Not to talk of almajiri schools. The UBE projects are every where, the President's scholarship for best brains etc. I wonder what APC will to to rubbish these achievements. Transportation: let me not even begin with the work done in the airports, or the rail lines. You can appraise that ur self. 3. Democratic system. Take it up or down, GEJ is the Hero of Democracy in modern Nigeria. His composure and attitude to governance in the face of fierce criticism showed he is a true democrat and built the culture of transparency in governance, that's why today Nigerians are shouting about perceived corruption in the system cus he created opening for people to see and asked. Do we talk about electoral system under him? I don't know where to stop, just research how every sector used to be before 2010 and compare with now. 5 Likes |
Re: Osibanjo Is Inheriting Debt From FG But Ambode Is Not Inheriting Debt Frm Fash by denko(m): 12:59pm On May 21, 2015 |
What u are seeing in lagos is a media hype ba7man: 1 Like 1 Share |
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