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Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo - Politics (3) - Nairaland

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Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Urine: 9:04pm On Jun 01, 2015
babyosisi:
[size=18pt]If Buhari really wants to do it differently,these are the only ministers he need
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[size=18pt]3 from each zone and get working
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1. Minister of Health

2. Minister of Education

3. Minister of finance

4. Minister of petroleum resources

5. Minister of mines and power

6. Minister of Agriculture

7. Minister of works and national planning ( can be merged with 16 sef)

8. Attorney General and Minister of Justice

9. Minister of transport and aviation

10 Minister of Foreign affairs

11. Minister of Labour and productivity

12. Minister of Science and Technology

13. Minister of Interior ( even though I have no clue what they do)

14. Minister Of Women Affairs and youth development

15. Minister of sport and chairman national sport commission

16. Minister Land, Housing and Urban Development

17.minister of culture and tourism

18. Minister of Niger delta and FCT



Eliminate all junior ministers
You don't need minister of police and all that crap
The police already have their inspector general
We don't need communication minister ,the president already has his communications people

Spot on! I can't find a single fault in your comment.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jun 01, 2015
Urine:
Spot on! I can't find a single fault in your comment.
Well, thanks
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by hedonistic: 9:19pm On Jun 01, 2015
And what if the president appoints only 18 ministers "in the first instance" - with the unstated intention of replacing them with another 18 fresh ministers two years after to satisfy constitutional requirements. . . . Only for the president to die six months later? And then his deputy (the Vice President) assumes office to start an entirely new administration? Will it not be 100% correct to say that the deceased president breached a constitutional requirement during his tenure?

With all due respect, Keyamo's position is merely academic, and perhaps clever by half.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jun 01, 2015
A president that pointed two spokesman to do same job will appoint 50 ministers though 19 will be from the North West
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by otokx(m): 9:27pm On Jun 01, 2015
see logic.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jun 01, 2015
flamingtiger:
The learned gentleman made a very wonderful submission. He gave the law an interpretation which can be sustained in any court of law. You have the absolute right to air your views just as he done. But casting aspersions and mudslinging is way too 'childish'.
The gentleman is talking nonsense
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by datbay(m): 9:32pm On Jun 01, 2015
AnneMomoh:
Hole?
abi nau
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Nobody: 9:34pm On Jun 01, 2015
hedonistic:
And what if the president appoints only 18 ministers "in the first instance" - with the unstated intention of replacing them with another 18 fresh ministers two years after to satisfy constitutional requirements. . . . Only for the president to die six months later? And then his deputy (the Vice President) assumes office to start an entirely new administration? Will it not be 100% correct to say that the deceased president breached a constitutional requirement during his tenure?

With all due respect, Keyamo's position is merely academic, and perhaps clever by half.
No mind that charge and bail SAN. He just de fool himself
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by akanbiaa(m): 9:36pm On Jun 01, 2015
Uncleodi:
No need to scream and shout ftc!

Nah!!

Back to the issue, Nigeria belongs to us all and not a few. So in the spirit of fairness, the Federal Character was established to drive home the concept of equity.

Take for instance if an opposition state goes without a Federal minister, what will become of the jobless youths who would not be employed by the Governor? So I strongly believe that each state should produce a Federal Minister as it has a long way/role in grass root development.
each Geo political zone producing 4 each to make 24 is still reasonable.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Wildrage: 9:41pm On Jun 01, 2015
There should be a limit to playing to the gallery, the letters of the law is clear and unambiguous. Every lawyer knows that the intendment of the framers of the constitution is to guarantee that every state is represented in the decision making at the highest level of government. If we find the number of ministers stipulated by the constitution unwieldy and financially draining on the polity, the right thing to do is to amend the constitution. Buhari would breaking his oath if he circumvents the provisions of section 147 by heeding keyamo's foolish advise
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Albakol(m): 9:41pm On Jun 01, 2015
is good appoint 37 ministers each state in Nigeria equal.

This is a sign of good governance.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Wildrage: 9:44pm On Jun 01, 2015
barcanista:
No mind that charge and bail SAN. He just de fool himself
Who dash am SAN?
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by shortgun(m): 9:47pm On Jun 01, 2015
barcanista:
This man is complicating the whole thing with his nonsense interpretation. Has he ever heard of "Federal Character"? How can you appoint Ministers at different times from different states when the constitution was VERY clear? The purpose of that provision is to give every state equal representation in the Executive Council since the President and his Vice have the whole federation as their constituency. Now I see why EFCC is yet to make any prominent conviction.

#Charge and Bail SAN
U beat me to it my brother, it beats my imagination how a SAN of keyamo's standard will be talking trash trying to fit he's opinion into the Constitution.
Like you have said; this matter is not open to debate, if the president must appoint any minister, he must appoint a minister each from States that makes up the federation.
This is why they are called the Federal Executive Council(FEC) because each state must have a representative in d Council. The FEC is believed to be the highest decision making body of Executive arm of Government.

Keyamo is saying that it will be OK if some states are not represented in the Senate or House of Representatives.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by grandstar(m): 9:56pm On Jun 01, 2015
ionsman:
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Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by phatmukoro:
That interpretation has his APC membership card stapled to it.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by grandstar(m): 9:59pm On Jun 01, 2015
barcanista:
This man is complicating the whole thing with his nonsense interpretation. Has he ever heard of "Federal Character"? How can you appoint Ministers at different times from different states when the constitution was VERY clear? The purpose of that provision is to give every state equal representation in the Executive Council since the President and his Vice have the whole federation as their constituency. Now I see why EFCC is yet to make any prominent conviction.

#Charge and Bail SAN
You have to register with 250,000 on his chambers before you even start talking!
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Nobody: 9:59pm On Jun 01, 2015
I agree with Bar Keyamo
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Nobody: 9:59pm On Jun 01, 2015
shortgun:
U beat me to it my brother, it beats my imagination how a SAN of keyamo's standard will be talking trash trying to fit he's opinion into the Constitution.
Like you have said; this matter is not open to debate, if the president must appoint any minister, he must appoint a minister each from States that makes up the federation.
This is why they are called the Federal Executive Council(FEC) because each state must have a representative in d Council. The FEC is believed to be the highest decision making body of Executive arm of Government.

Keyamo is saying that it will be OK if some states are not represented in the Senate or House of Representatives.
The SANs of these days get k-leg. Keyamo is only running his mouth. He just want to be "super" but ended up a dimwit. Have you ever heard that the EFCC has secured any high profile conviction since Keyamo was appointed prosecutor?
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by porka: 10:05pm On Jun 01, 2015
Yes, he can appoint 18 ministers today and sack all of them tomorrow, then appoint another 18 tomorrow.

He would have fulfilled the provisions of the constitution as amended by Festus Keyamo.

Wishful thinking and some academic mastubation.

Later they will come and argue that 2 or 3 states can share 1 governor just because the Chief Judge of Bayelsa State swore-in the governor of Rivers State.

If now that at least a minister is appointed from each state of the federation, Lagos State is at the forefront of rejecting a particular minister as not representative of their state;

If in the current dispensation, someone who married in another state is being rejected as not a true representative of her husband's state;

If now, that some "big" states are contesting why their representative ministers are not allocated to "juicy ministries"

Then what will happen, when Prof. Festus Keyamo's "BIG BANG THEORY" of 5 states per 1 minister is experimented, can only be imagined.

The military did not appoint 1 minister per state, how did that solve their corruption problems then?

Be reminded, that the guy you are trying to encourage to trample on the Nigeria's constitution is a master of that game.

Left to him, he would throw away the constitution and start using Sharia; he once suspended the constitution and has not hidden his preference for Sharia as the supreme law for the country.

It is better you just go straight to the point.

But when Buhari start to show his true color and bu.....t Nigeria's constitution, we know who baited him.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by jerome4u(m): 10:06pm On Jun 01, 2015
jumobi1:
The state where the Pres. VP, CJ, SFG, Sen Prez, Speaker, COS and perhaps APC chair shouldn't produce ministers if we must please every state.
you are so on point
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Akiika: 10:08pm On Jun 01, 2015
Uncleodi:
No need to scream and shout ftc!

Nah!!

Back to the issue, Nigeria belongs to us all and not a few. So in the spirit of fairness, the Federal Character was established to drive home the concept of equity.

Take for instance if an opposition state goes without a Federal minister, what will become of the jobless youths who would not be employed by the Governor? So I strongly believe that each state should produce a Federal Minister as it has a long way/role in grass root development.
I have a question for you, how does it benefit you if for example a politician from your state is made a minister? Does he or she remit money into your account? Would you agree that if corrupt , as most of them are, he'll only benefit his immediate family and friends. If his immediate family and friends are his beneficiaries, isn't it smart for you to advocate for smaller Government (less money will be lost to looting) of few competent ministers that you can benefit from their policies and programs?.....just trying to reset your psyche!
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by phatmukoro: 10:11pm On Jun 01, 2015
No I totally disagree. The mischief rule, one of the rules of interpretation of statutes dictates that in interpreting any statute, one must look at the mischief such statute was meant to correct The constitutional provisions are meant to prevent discrimination against any people and they stipulate how a cabinet must be constituted at any given time and not within a given time. If what Keyamo says is true then a government may as well practice discrimination for the greater part of its tenure and then change towards the end of its term merely for the purpose of compliance. The law must be seen as it is. It is another thing entirely to say that the law places a constraint on the President and should be amended. But the true position of the law must first be clarified. It is dangerous to support illegality because of our political alliances even it is illegality by a popular or good person because the next man might build on it.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Akiika: 10:13pm On Jun 01, 2015
I have a question for you proponent of 37 ministers, how does it benefit you if for example a politician from your state is made a minister? Does he or she remit money into your account? Would you agree that politicians naturally benefit their immediate family and friends (shady contracts, nepotism e.t.c). If his immediate family and friends are his beneficiaries, isn't it smart for you to advocate for smaller Government (which means lesser ministries to lose money to looting) of few competent ministers that you can benefit from their policies and programs?.....just trying to reset your psyche!
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Djbaka(m): 10:58pm On Jun 01, 2015
Uncleodi:
No need to scream and shout ftc!

Nah!!

Back to the issue, Nigeria belongs to us all and not a few. So in the spirit of fairness, the Federal Character was established to drive home the concept of equity.

Take for instance if an opposition state goes without a Federal minister, what will become of the jobless youths who would not be employed by the Governor? So I strongly believe that each state should produce a Federal Minister as it has a long way/role in grass root development.
You have not made sense.

Go back and read the post again.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by ssuccess(m): 11:17pm On Jun 01, 2015
handie:
Brb. Make I plug ma phone. Ehen! In as far as I agree with Mr. Keyamo's view on d number of ministers, having ministers with the axe hanging over them won't be good for the polity. Why won't a minister loot funds when he knows for sure he won't last 4 years? And it will disrupt policies and leave d naton in a lurch. Best thing is d merging of ministries and appointing a junior and senior minister in each. With this, there'll be more efficiency and a cut in cost of governance
I'm so sorry... If I really interprete you well. If you think they tend to loot 'cause of job insecurity...please remember that even the president is impeachable
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by jaybee(f): 11:48pm On Jun 01, 2015
My man Keyamo. Man with brains. Man that is willing and able to rise to the occasion, when the need arises, without fear or favour, provided the cause is right, legitimate and legal.

He is at it again. very apt. eye opener. I have been wondering how to do with this constitutional provision. Keyamo has showed a clear way out. No more excuses for appointing an unnecessary number of 'ministers of the federal republic'. Thank you Keyamo. You will live long to do more for Nigerians. God bless you and your family.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by poiZon: 11:50pm On Jun 01, 2015
QuotaSystem:
For 16 years the PDP used ministerial appointments to reward members of their party that had committed substantial resources to the party, and as a consolation prize for their corrupt governors that could not get their people's mandate for the Senate, so it's no wonder this wasteful tradition was perpetuated by the looters that are now ducking and hiding from innocent Nigerians they are owing payments. The more ministries for them, the merrier.

The practice should be discontinued and ministries should justify the need for their existence if we are serious about cutting the cost of governance.
what will u say abt MINISTRY OF EMPLOYMENT, LAGOS GLOBAL ETC?
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by pedel: 12:01am On Jun 02, 2015
ionsman:
I still dont want to believe Aisha buhari wore a watch of 10 million for inauguration. Maybe its d replica of 100k embarassed.I still dont wanna believe. Infact........
The watch can be bought for less than 25,000 naira. Can you believe that?

https://www.nairaland.com/2351181/aisha-buharis-inauguration-wristwatch-also
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by jaybee(f): 12:02am On Jun 02, 2015
poiZon:
what will u say abt MINISTRY OF EMPLOYMENT, LAGOS GLOBAL ETC?
I think the action of the Lagos state governor is a bit off point. it may not be supported by the APC constitution. But the Lagos state government is not bound to the constitution of APC. The constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria takes precedence.
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Spidermon: 1:57am On Jun 02, 2015
TRUTHTOPOWER:
It is the learned writer that is narrowing the application of the law. 37 ministers is envisaged so as to give every state a seat at FEC. However, they can be placed on the same salary with a University HOD.They can have 2 Departmental vehilcles, one P.A.and civil servants as SAs. consultants could be hired based on budgetary projects. This way the office of a minister could just cost less than 500,000 per month.
This post makes too much sense. 1000 likes
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by bunmititi(f): 3:33am On Jun 02, 2015
what a hopeless charge and bail lawyer!
his brain must have been changed to akamu!

And some people expect the fool to convict hardened criminals like simipriye silva?
Re: Why It Is Incorrect To Say President Must Appoint 37 Ministers - Festus Keyamo by Nobody: 4:06am On Jun 02, 2015
dridowu:
Quoting consitution is not easy at all , but all i want is competent individual that will handle those ministry with sincere heart whether 19 or 41 ministers
I can be competent you know. grin grin grin
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