chineloSA:


Are you saying all of us here don't have a life eeeehn? What life are you refering to eeeeehhhhhn naaaa? Talk?

Well alot of people who are here are here to make money and move on. This country is different to most Arab countries I gather. I have been to UAE and I can say there is a difference. Very hard to explain, but hey people have been working and surviving before me .

I am not God, I cannot tell you that you cannot or can be considered. All I reported on was paye discrepancies and preference of Nationalities, which is a reality, regardless how others don't want to admit it. Regardless of those who claim to have worked in the Kingdom say, they know its a reality.
I also said all Nigerians I know here do not use our Nigerian passport. I have also had conversations with them and they also admitted to being aware of Nationality preference in the Kingdom and also pay discrepancies.

They can consider you. Just put your application forward and see what will come out of it.

frostmate:


No I am mot saying that only that there appears to be a lot of restriction. I know a few people who worked prior to coming to the uae. The pay was good but that appeared to be the best part of it. Cost of living appears to be cheaper in the kingdom compared to the uae. Your ACs over there I hear are more powerful, probably because you people don't go out much over there

ujugladys:
@ChineloSA so I finally decided to go and look around after thinking and thinking about it,it is not a scam o,there were saudi doctors there that conducted the interview,the money is for the agent organizing it,then u get to stil pay the agent one month of ur salary up front and what they were offering is not encouraging,plus my hubby won't be able to work cos he does not hav experience in other field except law,so I didn't bother,though they still hav 2moro and next

chineloSA:


Dear I am happy that your decision is soley based on your own observation and weighing things that will not work for you. I would have hated to influence your judgement alone.

Yes, its true your salary on Nigerian passport may not intice you. That's a sad reality. Nationality pays you a better or worst salary. If you were British, American etc, I can tell you, you would determine what you want.
What I have been saying is just reality though some people will lie on this forum and claim big salaries on Nigerian passports.

I am still not happy about paying the agent. I wouldn't.

But goodluck with everything, it would have been a great experience for you and your family.

ujugladys:


They were offering $1750 which is too poor for a doctor with 5years post graduation

chineloSA:


No ways in hell. Hell NO Were there no chances for negotiations?

See how huge the gap is?? God forbid. Such discrepancies create animosity between professionals of different Nationalities.
I am glad you are not taking it.

ujugladys:



No room for negotiation o

chineloSA:


God forbid.

South Africa pays better than this. Try them, don't listen to all the Xenophobic stories. Just network with other doctors there and compare their stories. I am not sure what their registration procedures are.

I know it may not be appealing for now, but they pay way better than what Saudi Arabia is offering. It's normally $4000+ at a government hospital when you are registered excluding some allowance. And even more for specialists +$8000 And some make more through locum work.

Weigh your options dear.

chineloSA:


Thats good oo See I woke up from my bed with laughter eeehn. I was just like you before I came. I was scared to death. I knew no one before I came here.

Anyways, yes its true, woman don't drive here. Its ok for a 13yr old to drive than a 30yr old woman with a driving licence So many car accidents here, drivers are reckless because small boys are behind the steering wheel, acting as guardians to their female relatives. Thats their laws.
Yes you cannot be seen with a man you are not married to in public. If you are in the same car, you should be sitting in the back seat if you are not married or else the Mutawas want to see a marriage certificate.

When we go to work there is a staff bus that shuttles between work and compounds. So that should not be a problem. When doing your private errands, the employer normally gives you shopping days and the bus takes you for shopping and drops you back to your place of residence. When you wanna go on your own, you can take a cab, but sit in the back seat, but know that its not 100% safe,anything can happen. And ISIS is here now we are told to be more vigilant as expats now. We are told never to walk alone anymore.

I am not trying to discourage you. All depends on the region.

ujugladys:

In SA,they make it difficult for people that are not trained in their country to practice there,getting a license is very difficult,a friend went but after staying for a long time she had to leave SA,thanks dear for your help,there are other options.

JJCE:
thanks for the info, i have OND in local government studie with lower credit, and also i resit for waec examination last year which i passed, can i get a job over there , i mean any kind of job , and i will be study aswell or its there any scholarship for africa student, am 22 yrs old, a muslim, and islamic studie is among my o level subject, whats my chance?

ujugladys:
@chineloSA one question,just out of curiosity,do you need to have experience to apply for a teaching job there?

chineloSA:


Some employers don't mind experience and some do need experience, they specify.

For instance when wanting to teach English, they require that you should have a Degree+Celta/Tesol and experience if you have it. If you don't, you get an entry level salary or you risk being exploited.

chineloSA:


Well honestly I am in no position to say you will or will not get a job.

But teaching at a University requires that you have a four year Degree and not Diploma.I cannot dictate that you should apply or shouldn't apply, but bear in mind that if you have less than the minimum requirements, you are increasing the chances of being abused and being exploited.

Again bear in mind that being a Muslim does not guarantee a better life or treatment in the Kingdom, instead African Muslims and other Muslims are looked down upon.

With regards to scholarships, I would be lying if I say I know much. But at the University where I teach their intake is first Saudis, then Syrians, Egyptians and lastly Sudanese who are all dictated what they can or can't register for. Courses life medicine, engineering are reserved for Saudis. We just had our intake exams for the next academic year which starts in August.

Again majority of the courses are mostly delivered in Arabic even though textbooks are in Arabic and English. Are you fluent in Arabic

So with regards to studying and scholarship, do your research, I can't help you much because majority of such information is written in Arabic.

JJCE:
thanks so much what about casual job, i will be given like how much per month?

ujugladys:
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Alright thanks,cos someone told me at the interview place,that my hubby wldnt have been able to teach assuming I took the offer since he does not have experience. Thanks anyway

2sex:
Someone might fine this really really helpful

http://www.expatriates.com/classifieds/saudi/jobs/

chineloSA:


Very untrue, some employers do employ people with no experience. We even have ex- exotic dancers, hotel managers, photographers as English teachers with no prior teaching experience or facilitating experience.

In such instances particularly when you are from any country either than the preferred countries, they require
B Degree + Celt00a/Delta/Tesol ( in class 120hrs)

So that was a fat lie dear.

water4:


@ Chinelo
You mean one must have a B.A or B.ED in English as first degree and a 120hrs celta/tesol course ?
Or a Degree in any field plus Celt00a/Delta/Tesol ( in class 120hrs) ? Which one.
I actually have a degree in business.

Thanks

chineloSA:


Very untrue, some employers do employ people with no experience. We even have ex- exotic dancers, hotel managers, photographers as English teachers with no prior teaching experience or facilitating experience.

In such instances particularly when you are from any country either than the preferred countries, they require
B Degree + Celta/Delta/Tesol ( in class 120hrs)

So that was a fat lie dear.

ujugladys:

He can do the TESOL online?do u think I Shld have taken the offer?though it has passed now,cos if he was able to get a teaching job our combined money would have been a bit manageable,what do u think?they finished the interview yesterday though,just wondering if I took the right decision,and they do it once a year. What does transferable igama mean?

Riteshfx:
Hi all,
I just saw this thread and I'll like to share my experience.
My husband got a job as a Doctor through one of these agents BHP Global to work with Saudi MOH in 2010 and I joined him in 2011. Being a lawyer, I couldn't work in Saudi coupled with the fact that I had my first child in 2012. I was frustrated and very lonely so in year 2013(and another baby on the way) I traveled to England to do the one month CELTA course ,I had my baby and I got a job offer immediately from a University in Jeddah with my Nigerian passport but as my husband's dependent. I was offered $3000 and I took it.
I completed my one year contract in May and my husband got a job in UK after completing his MRCP exams and we just moved to UK.
The moral of my story is that aside from money, Saudi has a lot of opportunities for Doctors because you get to meet doctors from all over the world who can advise for on your career paths.
ChineloSA,
Next time take a job in Jeddah, then you will enjoy Saudi Arabia.

Riteshfx:
Hi all,
I just saw this thread and I'll like to share my experience.
My husband got a job as a Doctor through one of these agents BHP Global to work with Saudi MOH in 2010 and I joined him in 2011. Being a lawyer, I couldn't work in Saudi coupled with the fact that I had my first child in 2012. I was frustrated and very lonely so in year 2013(and another baby on the way) I traveled to England to do the one month CELTA course ,I had my baby and I got a job offer immediately from a University in Jeddah with my Nigerian passport but as my husband's dependent. I was offered $3000 and I took it.
I completed my one year contract in May and my husband got a job in UK after completing his MRCP exams and we just moved to UK.
The moral of my story is that aside from money, Saudi has a lot of opportunities for Doctors because you get to meet doctors from all over the world who can advise for on your career paths.
ChineloSA,
Next time take a job in Jeddah, then you will enjoy Saudi Arabia.

chineloSA:


ujugladys, another testimony for you.

As for Jeddah, I will see what will happen next year. I am enjoying Hail, it is a bit ancient and strict, but its good for me for now. I prefer smaller cities and less busy areas.

Nne, thanks a lot. May you be blessed.

ChineloSA, I know what you mean about ancient and less busy cities but I lived in one from 2011 till 2013 and I can tell you that it gets too boring at some point. For married people, you get too dependent on your husband which puts a huge strain on your marriage.In Jeddah, I could move around alone, I got ponmo and shaki at free will and I had a hairdresser who braids my hair.The freedom was exceptional.
All in all, I wish you all the blessings that Saudi has to offer.

ujugladys:
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Thanks a lot dear,this is really encouraging,please can you throw more light on the BHP global?i looked them up on the net but didn't get them. What qualifications did your husband go with? I will really appreciate it if you can explain further, thanks a lot

Riteshfx:



Ujugladys,
I'm glad to be of help. My husband had MB,BS plus two years experience then and YES he had to pay the equivalent of one month salary to BHP global after the had processed his visa and given him his flight tickets. Over the last five years, he has grown in his career which might have been difficult for him in Nigeria. Things got way better with our combined salaries and with his MRCP and my CELTA we can also both work in UK.
P.S: BHP Global services the Northern part of Nigeria while Onniver(not sure about the spelling) services Lagos I guess.

chineloSA:


Normally they prefer Tesol in class (120hrs) minimum.
Well your total earnings would have improved so much. And you would have saved a lot together. Though I do not have the details of your current earnings to tell you if you made a right decision or not, but I know you were not going to regret in the long run.

Iqama in simple terms is a Residence permit which allows you to work in the Kingdom. Transferable Iqama simply means to transfer your permit from one employer to another ( without having to go back to your home country and start the process all over again).

So in your case you do not have an existing one so it's not applicable to you.