pkjag:
Feel sorry for yourself you deluded warya, we are already past that and in the process of rebuilding our country.

Somalis fight as a national pass time. Kenya doesnt know what war is. You Bantus have always been slaves. And now you have messed with the only people in Africa who wage war for fun, and have defeated the British, Italians, US, EU, UN, Portuguese.

axum:



Somalis fight as a national pass time. Kenya doesnt know what war is. You Bantus have always been slaves. And now you have messed with the only people in Africa who wage war for fun, and have defeated the British, Italians, US, EU, UN, Portuguese.

Are you seriously restarting this thread so as to stay relevant to Kenyans , do you know that these Al-shabaab terrorists are also hated by Kenyans Somalis and Somalians. We do not hate Somalis, we hate Al-shabaab and their resources are dwindling, we have established a better system of inhibiting their attacks.

pkjag:
Are you seriously restarting this thread so as to stay relevant to Kenyans , do you know that these Al-shabaab terrorists are also hated by Kenyans Somalis and Somalians. We do not hate Somalis, we hate Al-shabaab and their resources are dwindling, we have established a better system of inhibiting their attacks.

Alshabaab is basically fulfilling somali foreign policy which is to retake northern Kenya, same way the communist secular government of Barre did.

No matter who is in charge, Islamists, Liberals, conservatives we all have the same political goal which is the same as the Somalis who live in Kenya and Ethiopia : to reclaim somali lands.


Kenya will never have peace - Trust

axum:



Alshabaab is basically fulfilling somali foreign policy which is to retake northern Kenya, same way the communist secular government of Barre did.

No matter who is in charge, Islamists, Liberals, conservatives we all have the same political goal which is the same as the Somalis who live in Kenya and Ethiopia : to reclaim somali lands.


Kenya will never have peace - Trust

LOL Somali foreign policy, don't make me laugh, are these the same Somalis who are begging KDF not to leave because they fear Al-shabaab unrest, you seriously need to come and live in North Eastern Province/Somalia, don't just receive information from the internet, I probably know Somalis' current state better than you do.

pkjag:

LOL Somali foreign policy, don't make me laugh, are these the same Somalis who are begging KDF not to leave because they fear Al-shabaab unrest, you seriously need to come and live in North Eastern Province/Somalia, don't just receive information from the internet, I probably know Somalis' current state better than you do.

slowpoke, Somalis dont want to be part of Kenya. You forget the entire Somali history of us owning Bantus, and we see you as beneath us.

Every Somali government for hundreds of years, has wanted to stay away from Bantus and be within a larger Somali country.

Alshabaab knows this and this is why they attack Kenya, many Kenyan Somalis have left to join Alshabaab with the majority providing tacit support.

Even the Federal government of Somalia is suing Kenya for water boundary in the International Court

axum:

slowpoke, Somalis dont want to be part of Kenya. You forget the entire Somali history of us owning Bantus, and we see you as beneath us.
Every Somali government for hundreds of years, has wanted to stay away from Bantus and be within a larger Somali country.
Alshabaab knows this and this is why they attack Kenya, many Kenyan Somalis have left to join Alshabaab with the majority providing tacit support.
Even the Federal government of Somalia is suing Kenya for water boundary in the International Court

I'm sure you know all the Somalis in Kenya who are the same people who called for the closure of the Dadaab refugee camp mind you. Stop dreaming, reality is knocking, Al-shabaab isn't like ISIS where a majority of people support their Ideology, The Somalis who join are very few compared to those who have been persecuted and those who want them wiped out. In fact hundreds of youths have been surrendering due to a government request, they'll be isolated from the general population so as to assist with security information. Your Somali nationalism ideology died with Said Barre.

pkjag:
I'm sure you know all the Somalis in Kenya who are the same people who called for the closure of the Dadaab refugee camp mind you. Stop dreaming, reality is knocking, Al-shabaab isn't like ISIS where a majority of people support their Ideology, The Somalis who join are very few compared to those who have been persecuted and those who want them wiped out. In fact hundreds of youths have been surrendering due to a government request, they'll be isolated from the general population so as to assist with security information. Your Somali nationalism ideology died with Said Barre.

Somalis fought against the closure of the camp. You just feel unsettled that you bantus in Kenya are divided and Somalis are the same ethnic group.

Somali people aside being muslim are extrememly racists and xenophobic. They will never peacefully live inside kenya while their land is occupied.

axum:

Somalis fought against the closure of the camp. You just feel unsettled that you bantus in Kenya are divided and Somalis are the same ethnic group.
Somali people aside being muslim are extrememly racists and xenophobic. They will never peacefully live inside kenya while their land is occupied.

Occupied by whom? The non-Somali communities in North Eastern Kenya are very few and they mainly go there for business and to teach and lately nobody wants to live there, they have their own MPs, Senators and Governors. They occupy their own land just like every other person and no Somali has protested to their land being grabbed because very few non-Somali Kenyans would want to live in N.E, the area is unproductive, sparsely populated, dry and hot and very few agricultural activities can be conducted there. In fact, the Somali communities in these areas are protesting insecurity because the teachers, doctors and businessmen are leaving. Most of the teachers and doctors are non-Somali Kenyans. So that old tune of Somali oppression in Kenya that every Somali is taught by their grandparents is obsolete. There's no Somali persecution in Kenya, they are treated like every other Kenyan and they also enjoy high government positions, they live in cosmopolitan cities and towns together with other Kenyans.

Somali man 1234-50,you still roaming the earth??

axum:



I fear Kenya will never know what peace means. Somalis are bred to fight. Kenyans have always been slaves.

He he,
like Somalia, you mean? The reason why most of Somalia has moved to Kenya?

Keep dreaming of Kenya slaves. And get off the Internet sometime. You have responsibilities now,

pkjag:
Occupied by whom? The non-Somali communities in North Eastern Kenya are very few and they mainly go there for business and to teach and lately nobody wants to live there, they have their own MPs, Senators and Governors. They occupy their own land just like every other person and no Somali has protested to their land being grabbed because very few non-Somali Kenyans would want to live in N.E, the area is unproductive, sparsely populated, dry and hot and very few agricultural activities can be conducted there. In fact, the Somali communities in these areas are protesting insecurity because the teachers, doctors and businessmen are leaving. Most of the teachers and doctors are non-Somali Kenyans. So that old tune of Somali oppression in Kenya that every Somali is taught by their grandparents is obsolete. There's no Somali persecution in Kenya, they are treated like every other Kenyan and they also enjoy high government positions, they live in cosmopolitan cities and towns together with other Kenyans.

Axum has the habit of trying to remain relevant infront of kenyans, as if somalia being a failed state and the poorest country in the world is not a fact. Arguing with him will only get you agitated. when he says that somalis view bantus to be beneath them, thats the disadvantage of getting news from internet. how would they view bantus to be beneath them while they are camping at Dadaab? others are in war torn desert in somalia getting food from UN. Is he talking about the few somalis selling clothes in Eastlie Kenya?? Axum is one of the terrorists symphathisers who condone killing of innocent christians while he is camping in the western nations thank God he is not in Kenya we could have have lost more innocent Kenyans to Alshabaab in the name of foreign policy

axum:



Somalis fought against the closure of the camp. You just feel unsettled that you bantus in Kenya are divided and Somalis are the same ethnic group.

Somali people aside being muslim are extrememly racists and xenophobic. They will never peacefully live inside kenya while their land is occupied.

Dear Axum, your Somalia that you keep ranting about here comparing it to kenya needs to be rebuilt...some kids there dont even know what school is, while you keep ranting about North Eastern Kenya being part of somalia. Go back to somalia and get what the real situation is there, trying to praise alshabaab which has nbeen killing Ministers in Somalia you sound irrelevant. Alshabaab attacks Turkey that is trying to build schools in somalia and you are here talking about them fulfilling somalia's foreign policy. Do you even have the statistics of literacy level between somalis and bantus while you are comparing them? Niggar you really sound ignorant comparing Kenya to somalia.

MorrisaMkenya:

Axum has the habit of trying to remain relevant infront of kenyans, as if somalia being a failed state and the poorest country in the world is not a fact. Arguing with him will only get you agitated. when he says that somalis view bantus to be beneath them, thats the disadvantage of getting news from internet. how would they view bantus to be beneath them while they are camping at Dadaab? others are in war torn desert in somalia getting food from UN. Is he talking about the few somalis selling clothes in Eastlie Kenya?? Axum is one of the terrorists symphathisers who condone killing of innocent christians while he is camping in the western nations thank God he is not in Kenya we could have have lost more innocent Kenyans to Alshabaab in the name of foreign policy

This isn't the first interaction we've had, I know his tactics but I always try to call him out on all his misconceptions about Somalis in Kenya since he lives in the US and doesn't know the situation here.

Here Kenyan-somalis supporting the construction of a wall between Kenya And Somali, the one guy who doesn't support says its because he might suffer during the dry season as sometimes cattle herders cross to and fro Somalia when one side of the border is too dry (the same way it happens along Kenya-Uganda border or Kenya Tanzania border). None of the Kenyan-Somalis uses reason such as , "they are our brothers" or such terms that might suggest they view themselves as part of Somali.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ78gzews-o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGhb2R7GW9g





Meanwhile, the first Huduma Center has opened in Wajir to serve the public. Huduma Center is a corruption proof working area (works like a bank) where you can get up to 40 most important government services like birth certificated for new borns, ID cards, tax returns...... All corruption free and all electronically recorded so no dubious processes.
The Huduma center is so efficient that even other african countries have begun sending teams to Kenya to learn how it works exactly, resently the Project was awarded a medal by UN for providing the best/improved service delivery from any government

Too bad alshabaab is not a recognized legitimate entity to impliment a foreign policy of its country (its not even regonised by majority of Somali people in their country, let alone outside)...... Their muslims brothers all over the world want to rebuild Somali but its backward people like Alshabaab and Axum who are too broken in the head to want progress, they would rather sink with their boat, but no one wants to sink along with them, the somalians were wise enough to break out of the cycle of violence


An story which Axum would hate to read

Kenya is working with rich Arab nations to stabilise Somalia as it seeks to stop attacks by Al-Shabaab militants trained in the lawless country.

Foreign Affairs Cabinet Secretary Amina Mohammed said the country had embarked on winning the hearts and minds of the Somali people to speed up the military exit, stabilise the country and stop radicalising youths.

She said the country was working with resource-rich United Arab Emirates, countries in the Arab League as well as other development partners, to rebuild and stabilise Somalia.

“(The) UAE has partnered with us through the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) to provide humanitarian support to refugees in camps and has also provided direct support to the government,” she said.
She was speaking at a joint press briefing with her UAE counterpart Sheikh Abdallah in Nairobi on Monday.

The two ministers then left for State House to brief President Kenyatta.

The UAE minister said his country was also keen on regional matters, such as the crisis in Burundi, South Sudan, Somalia and even further across the border in Libya.

On Monday, the UAE Foreign Affairs minister said its effort to stabilise Somalia and other volatile countries in the region had the backing of the Arab League, African Union and the European Union.

INVESTMENTS

Some of the measures put in place include building the capacity of the country and equipping its government.

Mr Abdallah warned that Somalia is still fragile and it needs to build industries that can create jobs to stop youth radicalisation.
“We are also supporting the Somalia president in forming a stable government,” he said.

Ms Mohammed said the two countries had also agreed to strengthen bilateral relations and open up both economies to more investments from the Arab country.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/UAE-Al-Shabaab-Somalia-Terrorism-Funds/-/1056/2744958/-/2e6hetz/-/index.html

There are even Somali - somalis protesting the proposed closure of dadaab. They may be refugees here but still get access to important facilities like school, health care and they are even free to do their own business. Europe, where people are drowning fleeing to does not allow such freedom to refugees. Somali refugees are moving from the US to Kenya, because of the restrictions those countries put on refugees and businesses. Kenyans are not petty. Just mind your business. So long as it's legal.

axum:


slowpoke, Somalis dont want to be part of Kenya. You forget the entire Somali history of us owning Bantus, and we see you as beneath us.

Every Somali government for hundreds of years, has wanted to stay away from Bantus and be within a larger Somali country.

Alshabaab knows this and this is why they attack Kenya, many Kenyan Somalis have left to join Alshabaab with the majority providing tacit support.

Even the Federal government of Somalia is suing Kenya for water boundary in the International Court

What is with this RETARDMOFO
Which Bantus did Somalis ever own from Kenya??
Please List their names!!!!!
NEVER HAPPENED!!!

axum:



Somalis fight as a national pass time. Kenya doesnt know what war is. You Bantus have always been slaves. And now you have messed with the only people in Africa who wage war for fun, and have defeated the British, Italians, US, EU, UN, Portuguese.

Sorry.Last I checked.The Portuguese did thrash you.Very well in fact.
And Somalia was colonised.Last I checked,Rebelled and was beaten. Twice.
The Somali Government lost the Shifta War to Kenya in 1967 and North Eastern became a permanent part of Kenya.Forever.
Retardmofo.

GERALD710:

Sorry.Last I checked.The Portuguese did thrash you.Very well in fact.
And Somalia was colonised.Last I checked,Rebelled and was beaten. Twice.
The Somali Government lost the Shifta War to Kenya in 1967 and North Eastern became a permanent part of Kenya.Forever.
Retardmofo.

Exactly! Fyi,the war was over 50 years ago-the KAF was tiny,there was no aircav and the army was still very small,I think only 6 max 76 regiments,approx 8000 men , while 90% of Somalis actively supported the secessionists and they still lost! That's why I laughed when 'experts' said the army was heading for defeat or stalemate when they invaded. Do you know Kismayu is so quiet those KDF infantry boys are actually bored? They've nobody left to play with! In fact my navy buddy tells me you can drive from Lamu to Kismayu easily right now.
Listen you dusty broken arse f'tard:if you want o be misused by the West to sabotage us Boko Haram style like Nigeria be ready for the consequences!

Somalis,please don't play the Uyghur. Don't let false pride lead you into national sabotage and derailment. If you feel you must react emotionally as is often your custom be prepared to reap the Apocalypse itself.

http://karanjazplace..com/2015/05/attention-somalisdont-play-uyghur.html



Yes,ignorant little negro,tiny Kenya is actually a global player in its own way! In terms of contribution to the global good we're 26 after Japan and ahead of Singapore! With only tea,coffee,flowers,dairy industry and real estate! The Anglo Zionists know what this country can accomplish so they keep using braindead Al Shabaab proxies to hit us-some of us do understand the game.
[b]I promise you;i[/b]f you imagine you can be allowed to impede our progress you'll suffer Hell itself.

GERALD710:

Sorry.Last I checked.The Portuguese did thrash you.Very well in fact.
And Somalia was colonised.Last I checked,Rebelled and was beaten. Twice.
The Somali Government lost the Shifta War to Kenya in 1967 and North Eastern became a permanent part of Kenya.Forever.
Retardmofo.

Wrong. You've repeated this lie over and over again.

Not only did we defeat the Portuguese on our territory, but we annihiliated them so bad that we went after them and defeated them on your shores too.
Read all about it here: Portuguese rule and Spanish crown in South Africa, 1581–1640 and Four centuries of Swahili verse: a literary history and anthology

The Shifta wars were led by seperatist Somalis from the NFD/NEP, NOT the Somali government. All the fighting was between a few thousand untrained Somali men and the KDF. It started with Kenya refusing the NEP to join Somalia after a unanimous vote for secession from Kenya.
It is cute how you're daydreaming about a war with Somalia though... had that war been a war between the Somali Rep and Kenya, we would have had you guys on your knees, begging foreigners to intervene like we did with Ethiopia who is and always has been militarily superior to Kenya.

Right now, our main priority is security and ousting the Alshabab terrorists, whom top Kenyan officials are doing dirty deals with in Lower Juba while at the same time acting like they are fighting them. After this is achieved, best believe we are coming for the NEP and the Ogaden.

ArtanK:


Wrong. You've repeated this lie over and over again.

Not only did we defeat the Portuguese on our territory, but we annihiliated them so bad that we went after them and defeated them on your shores too.
Read all about it here: Portuguese rule and Spanish crown in South Africa, 1581–1640 and Four centuries of Swahili verse: a literary history and anthology

The Shifta wars were led by seperatist Somalis from the NFD/NEP, NOT the Somali government. All the fighting was between a few thousand untrained Somali men and the KDF. It started with Kenya refusing the NEP to join Somalia after a unanimous vote for secession from Kenya.
It is cute how you're daydreaming about a war with Somalia though... had that war been a war between the Somali Rep and Kenya, we would have had you guys on your knees, begging foreigners to intervene like we did with Ethiopia who is and always has been militarily superior to Kenya.

Right now, our main priority is security and ousting the Alshabab terrorists, whom top Kenyan officials are doing dirty deals with in Lower Juba while at the same time acting like they are fighting them. After this is achieved, best believe we are coming for the NEP and the Ogaden.

I wasn't going to reply to this type of childishness but this is classic f'ery! Genius,how the hell can you fight the KDF!! You guys only terrorise the unarmed and defenseless! Fyi,your sub clan battles where you slaughter each others camels is another world from fighting a pro military force. But then again if you knew what happened in Sector 2 where the KDF killed at least 3k of your boys you wouldn't have written this ish. WTF am I even responding?

kikuyu1:


I wasn't going to reply to this type of childishness but this is classic f'ery! Genius,how the hell can you fight the KDF!! You guys only terrorise the unarmed and defenseless! Fyi,your sub clan battles where you slaughter each others camels is another world from fighting a pro military force. But then again if you knew what happened in Sector 2 where the KDF killed at least 3k of your boys you wouldn't have written this ish. WTF am I even responding?

lol

kikuyu1:


I wasn't going to reply to this type of childishness but this is classic f'ery! Genius,how the hell can you fight the KDF!! You guys only terrorise the unarmed and defenseless! Fyi,your sub clan battles where you slaughter each others camels is another world from fighting a pro military force. But then again if you knew what happened in Sector 2 where the KDF killed at least 3k of your boys you wouldn't have written this ish. WTF am I even responding?

We terrorise unarmed and defenseless people? Tell me where we have done that...

The Shifta war is the only war Kenya has ever fought in and it wasn't against the Somali Republic. It was the KDF vs separatist Somalis in the NEP, you can deny it all you want Mr. Dunce. The Somali Republic was indirectly involved (arming the NFDLM) but that's where our involvement ended.

If you are referring to the Wagalla Massacre, it wasn't an act of war, it was pure cowardice. We all know what happened and one day the perpetrators will face justice.

komia:
Many verses supporting violence in Koran

nwanne I saw your inputs on Japanese thread. Pls can I pm you, its important.
Thanks