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Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by Nobody: 9:39am On Jun 11, 2015
Those middlemen in the current supply chain
must go. Subsidy removal must be approached
through what we call “the blind man and his
yam”. If you have to pill the blind man’s yam, you
must keep whistling while you do so as a sign
that you are not introducing the yam into your
own mouth.
gringringrin
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@Bolded got me reeking wit laughter.
Subsidy should be scrapped and the money should be used to rehabilitate our refineries. Although its gonna be a long and difficult night, but when the day breaks we all and our generations unborn will benefit from it.
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Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by Nobody: 9:44am On Jun 11, 2015
Similarly, any substantial subsidy removal must be immediately accompanied with the rehabilitation and upgrading of the refineries so the people can see what you are doing with theirmoney. Once we meet our local needs, importation will stop. When importation stops, subsidy ends. The darkest part of the night is just before dawn
Exactly my argument. Without this, any talk of subsidy removal is exercise in futility
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by Nobody: 9:56am On Jun 11, 2015
eromspete:
I just want to point out that if the pump price is very low compared to the neighbouring West African countries. Export SMUGGLING of petrol products will become more profitable. Another problem will arise.
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Some Nigerians shaa undecided
Always pessimistic!
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Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by Nobody: 9:58am On Jun 11, 2015
A sincere government should first of all review the salary and financial entitlements of all public office holders by using every possible but legal means or even staunch cajole to effect monetary downsize of their already bogus benefits by 80%, consequently reducing reccurrent expenditures thus making fiscal management more favourable to capital spending, we can now take the rest(roads refinery who know e.t.c) from there. but to remove subsidy without slashing their benefit to the bearest minimium will depict them no better than the previous govt. Some of my position are taken from the stance of the oppositon parties during the 2012 subsidy brouhaha.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by Nobody: 9:58am On Jun 11, 2015
Johnnyessence:
In their daily lives, Nigerians must cope with this open ambivalence – they have oil but they can’t see oil; they have petroleum, but they have no petrol; they pay for light but they get darkness. There is no better way to explain what we mean here than by telling our usual story of the so-called subsidy on petroleum products in its most elemental form.

Nigeria is said to be the sixth largest producer of oil in the world. But with mismanagement, what was originally supposed to be a blessing from God has virtually turned a curse. At every point, we are either fighting because of the poor allocation of this resource, or we are crying that some dubious elements have stolen the total proceeds.

The original arrangement was that as soon as the crude oil came out from the ground, Nigeria would sell 90 percent at the spot market, in hard currency. The remaining 10 percent was meant to be refined for local consumption.

At various times, Nigeria had built four refineries – two in Port-Harcourt and one each in Warri and Kaduna, intended to refine different products. These refineries were run aground; and they are now old and practically comatose.

Because of our lack of refineries, foreign concerns that had refineries began to pick up, at rock-bottom prices, the 10 percent crude reserved for local consumption. They would refine the products in their countries and export the refined products to us at their own prices. By the time the product returns to Nigeria after its triangular journey, the price has hit the ceiling and it is no longer within the reach of many. This is where government steps in to bring in what it calls subsidy.

Under this scheme, a country like the Netherlands, which does not have a single drop of oil, is in the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, OPEC, as a net exporter of oil.

The subsidy regime in Nigeria reminds us of two issues – first, subsidy would have been absolutely unnecessary if we were doing our own refining in Nigeria. Secondly, the subsidy regime has been fraught with fraud and dishonesty.

Between 2006 and 2014, Nigeria paid over N7.5 trillion as subsidy claims. Yet, we are still where we are – the subsidised products are not available and where they are available, they sell for prices much higher than the unsubsidised products. Put differently, we have been subsidizing fraud.

The subsidy game has been a political one and has not been played on the rings of economic data; and rather than being fact-driven, it has been emotion-driven and politically played by those who use it as a political tool.

Subsidy in itself is not a bad idea. In fact, it is defined in economics as money paid by government or an organisation to reduce the cost of producing goods so that their prices can be kept low. It seeks to reduce the market price of an item below the cost of production. Government intervenes to support desirable activities to keep the prices of staple low; maintain the income of producers of critical or strategic products; induce investment while reducing unemployment.

Everywhere, subsidy is supposed to be a cushion to enhance the welfare and well-being of the people. It is an acceptable practice the world-over.

This writer was in Germany in the winter of 1973, when the price of oil increased astronomically because of some major adjustments by OPEC. Many companies would have just gone under but government quickly intervened with a serious subsidy package. Among other things, industry workers – including those of us arbiters who were “pulling gburu” – were made to work two days a week (eight days a month) for full month’s pay. That’s subsidy.

If all American farmers were to be allowed to produce at their optimum levels, food would be surplus and totally useless everywhere. The American government has had the practice over the years of paying some selected farmers to stay at home, not producing anything during the year. That’s subsidy.

In these places, the subsidy scheme is well managed and it gets to the target population – the poor. But in Nigeria, the exact opposite is the case: the real beneficiaries are not the poor but the middlemen and the rent seekers, contrary to the argument usually advanced and which has been at the heart of subsidy’s continuation, that it is pro-poor.

As long as there are long queues in our filling stations, we are merely compounding the problems of the poor. When people queue and sleep at petrol stations like refugees, besides the human degradation involved, you have also effectively reduced from their sources of livelihood because the time spent at the stations are wasted. Funds for infrastructural and human capital development are frittered away on dubious subsidy claims and payments to about 40 corporate citizens of Nigeria, to the utter neglect of the rest of us.

Truly, petrol can sell for N40 a litre but things must get worse before they get better. Subsidy is strangulating us! We must take the tough decision NOW – tighten our belts and let subsidy go!

Those middlemen in the current supply chain must go. Subsidy removal must be approached through what we call “the blind man and his yam”. If you have to pill the blind man’s yam, you must keep whistling while you do so as a sign that you are not introducing the yam into your own mouth.

Similarly, any substantial subsidy removal must be immediately accompanied with the rehabilitation and upgrading of the refineries so the people can see what you are doing with theirmoney. Once we meet our local needs, importation will stop. When importation stops, subsidy ends. The darkest part of the night is just before dawn.

Let’s give ourselves one year to work on the refineries during which period, as a way of choosing the lesser of two evils, we shall allow only the NNPC to import petroleum products directly so that we can know exactly what we are consuming.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/the-subsidy-question-fuel-will-sell-for-n40-a-litre/#sthash.6NHzupZw.dpuf
It felt sweet while digesting this piece. I begged to read more! Which more of this will written.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by Nobody: 9:58am On Jun 11, 2015
Johnnyessence:
Under this scheme, a country like the Netherlands, which does not have a single drop of oil, is in the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, OPEC, as a net exporter of oil.
Wrong! I know friends who drill for oil in the Netherlands. That's enough proof for me.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by peegirl(f): 10:03am On Jun 11, 2015
olasmith10:
After reading dis write up, one thing that comes to mind is SURE-P
Don't mind those olofofos we called leaders.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by olalekan1(m): 10:06am On Jun 11, 2015
Op if Ifeanyi Ubah (one of the cabal that is milking us dry) read this your write up, he may either kill you or commit sucide. The truth is always bitter, the write up is not just sensible but also feasible. The decision lies with our dear president.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by adedayourt(m): 10:15am On Jun 11, 2015
any time u hear Nigeria adminstraiv system i laff cheesy shake my head and think aloud "doz corrupt good for noting politician"
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by makwonda(m): 10:20am On Jun 11, 2015
a nice and excellent writings. so much food for thought, broda!
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by hopeforcharles(m): 10:22am On Jun 11, 2015
Johnnyessence:
In their daily lives, Nigerians must cope with this open ambivalence – they have oil but they can’t see oil; they have petroleum, but they have no petrol; they pay for light but they get darkness. There is no better way to explain what we mean here than by telling our usual story of the so-called subsidy on petroleum products in its most elemental form.

Nigeria is said to be the sixth largest producer of oil in the world. But with mismanagement, what was originally supposed to be a blessing from God has virtually turned a curse. At every point, we are either fighting because of the poor allocation of this resource, or we are crying that some dubious elements have stolen the total proceeds.

The original arrangement was that as soon as the crude oil came out from the ground, Nigeria would sell 90 percent at the spot market, in hard currency. The remaining 10 percent was meant to be refined for local consumption.

At various times, Nigeria had built four refineries – two in Port-Harcourt and one each in Warri and Kaduna, intended to refine different products. These refineries were run aground; and they are now old and practically comatose.

Because of our lack of refineries, foreign concerns that had refineries began to pick up, at rock-bottom prices, the 10 percent crude reserved for local consumption. They would refine the products in their countries and export the refined products to us at their own prices. By the time the product returns to Nigeria after its triangular journey, the price has hit the ceiling and it is no longer within the reach of many. This is where government steps in to bring in what it calls subsidy.

Under this scheme, a country like the Netherlands, which does not have a single drop of oil, is in the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, OPEC, as a net exporter of oil.

The subsidy regime in Nigeria reminds us of two issues – first, subsidy would have been absolutely unnecessary if we were doing our own refining in Nigeria. Secondly, the subsidy regime has been fraught with fraud and dishonesty.

Between 2006 and 2014, Nigeria paid over N7.5 trillion as subsidy claims. Yet, we are still where we are – the subsidised products are not available and where they are available, they sell for prices much higher than the unsubsidised products. Put differently, we have been subsidizing fraud.

The subsidy game has been a political one and has not been played on the rings of economic data; and rather than being fact-driven, it has been emotion-driven and politically played by those who use it as a political tool.

Subsidy in itself is not a bad idea. In fact, it is defined in economics as money paid by government or an organisation to reduce the cost of producing goods so that their prices can be kept low. It seeks to reduce the market price of an item below the cost of production. Government intervenes to support desirable activities to keep the prices of staple low; maintain the income of producers of critical or strategic products; induce investment while reducing unemployment.

Everywhere, subsidy is supposed to be a cushion to enhance the welfare and well-being of the people. It is an acceptable practice the world-over.

This writer was in Germany in the winter of 1973, when the price of oil increased astronomically because of some major adjustments by OPEC. Many companies would have just gone under but government quickly intervened with a serious subsidy package. Among other things, industry workers – including those of us arbiters who were “pulling gburu” – were made to work two days a week (eight days a month) for full month’s pay. That’s subsidy.

If all American farmers were to be allowed to produce at their optimum levels, food would be surplus and totally useless everywhere. The American government has had the practice over the years of paying some selected farmers to stay at home, not producing anything during the year. That’s subsidy.

In these places, the subsidy scheme is well managed and it gets to the target population – the poor. But in Nigeria, the exact opposite is the case: the real beneficiaries are not the poor but the middlemen and the rent seekers, contrary to the argument usually advanced and which has been at the heart of subsidy’s continuation, that it is pro-poor.

As long as there are long queues in our filling stations, we are merely compounding the problems of the poor. When people queue and sleep at petrol stations like refugees, besides the human degradation involved, you have also effectively reduced from their sources of livelihood because the time spent at the stations are wasted. Funds for infrastructural and human capital development are frittered away on dubious subsidy claims and payments to about 40 corporate citizens of Nigeria, to the utter neglect of the rest of us.

Truly, petrol can sell for N40 a litre but things must get worse before they get better. Subsidy is strangulating us! We must take the tough decision NOW – tighten our belts and let subsidy go!

Those middlemen in the current supply chain must go. Subsidy removal must be approached through what we call “the blind man and his yam”. If you have to pill the blind man’s yam, you must keep whistling while you do so as a sign that you are not introducing the yam into your own mouth.

Similarly, any substantial subsidy removal must be immediately accompanied with the rehabilitation and upgrading of the refineries so the people can see what you are doing with theirmoney. Once we meet our local needs, importation will stop. When importation stops, subsidy ends. The darkest part of the night is just before dawn.

Let’s give ourselves one year to work on the refineries during which period, as a way of choosing the lesser of two evils, we shall allow only the NNPC to import petroleum products directly so that we can know exactly what we are consuming.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/the-subsidy-question-fuel-will-sell-for-n40-a-litre/#sthash.6NHzupZw.dpuf
This is the most educative post have read today, I have been saying this I support subsidy abolishment, it has been the bane of underdevelopment and corruption in Nigeria, let subsidy Goooooooooooo.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by zurine(f): 10:28am On Jun 11, 2015
But the Ex president Goodluck Ebele Came up with such a solution in January 2012, and all the opposition in Nigeria rose up against him that he puts back the subsidy and as a matter of fact, the came up with occupy Nigeria yet you now see the same solution as a most appriopriate one because grandpa is in Charge. This simply means that the Nigerian problem is not one of leadership but rather of perception
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by nd07(m): 10:29am On Jun 11, 2015
[quote

If all American farmers were to be allowed to produce at their optimum levels, food would be surplus and totally useless everywhere. The American government has had the practice over the years of paying some selected farmers to stay at home, not producing anything during the year. That’s subsidy.f[/quote]@OP is ds policy not detrimental to the people of America especially d poor?
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by dljbd1(m): 10:39am On Jun 11, 2015
If I should pick anything out of this whole article, it will be this simple phrase.... “the blind man and his yam”. undecided

One issue with the last administration was the absence of transparency thereby not allowing room for critics from the public. We were all relying on rumors rather than fact figures; like the case with NNPC. This breed so much corruption. We hear of some hideous happenings and just begin to wonder if these guys are humans and have consciences.

I've said too much...I pray this administration will be better. As for me and my household sha, we shall continue to eat the fruit of the land. cool cool
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by manosteel(m): 10:49am On Jun 11, 2015
Nice. Like Richard Quest would say "The price we pay for Oil depends on it".
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by omaji53jeremiah: 11:25am On Jun 11, 2015
good writeup i agree with u totally
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by Nobody: 11:47am On Jun 11, 2015
fitzmayowa:
This is thought provoking and well written article...



CC ishilove, seun, lalasticlala
Well copied you mean
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by aytom(m): 11:52am On Jun 11, 2015
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by atlwireles: 12:01pm On Jun 11, 2015
Nice story from the OP, but like most things in Nigeria another tales by moonlight. You will never buy petrol for N40 in Nigeria again. Add N100 to that, with refineries working in Nigeria or not.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by hustla(m): 3:12pm On Jun 11, 2015
Johnnyessence:
In their daily lives, Nigerians must cope with this open ambivalence – they have oil but they can’t see oil; they have petroleum, but they have no petrol; they pay for light but they get darkness. There is no better way to explain what we mean here than by telling our usual story of the so-called subsidy on petroleum products in its most elemental form.

Nigeria is said to be the sixth largest producer of oil in the world. But with mismanagement, what was originally supposed to be a blessing from God has virtually turned a curse. At every point, we are either fighting because of the poor allocation of this resource, or we are crying that some dubious elements have stolen the total proceeds.

The original arrangement was that as soon as the crude oil came out from the ground, Nigeria would sell 90 percent at the spot market, in hard currency. The remaining 10 percent was meant to be refined for local consumption.

At various times, Nigeria had built four refineries – two in Port-Harcourt and one each in Warri and Kaduna, intended to refine different products. These refineries were run aground; and they are now old and practically comatose.

Because of our lack of refineries, foreign concerns that had refineries began to pick up, at rock-bottom prices, the 10 percent crude reserved for local consumption. They would refine the products in their countries and export the refined products to us at their own prices. By the time the product returns to Nigeria after its triangular journey, the price has hit the ceiling and it is no longer within the reach of many. This is where government steps in to bring in what it calls subsidy.

Under this scheme, a country like the Netherlands, which does not have a single drop of oil, is in the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, OPEC, as a net exporter of oil.

The subsidy regime in Nigeria reminds us of two issues – first, subsidy would have been absolutely unnecessary if we were doing our own refining in Nigeria. Secondly, the subsidy regime has been fraught with fraud and dishonesty.

Between 2006 and 2014, Nigeria paid over N7.5 trillion as subsidy claims. Yet, we are still where we are – the subsidised products are not available and where they are available, they sell for prices much higher than the unsubsidised products. Put differently, we have been subsidizing fraud.

The subsidy game has been a political one and has not been played on the rings of economic data; and rather than being fact-driven, it has been emotion-driven and politically played by those who use it as a political tool.

Subsidy in itself is not a bad idea. In fact, it is defined in economics as money paid by government or an organisation to reduce the cost of producing goods so that their prices can be kept low. It seeks to reduce the market price of an item below the cost of production. Government intervenes to support desirable activities to keep the prices of staple low; maintain the income of producers of critical or strategic products; induce investment while reducing unemployment.

Everywhere, subsidy is supposed to be a cushion to enhance the welfare and well-being of the people. It is an acceptable practice the world-over.

This writer was in Germany in the winter of 1973, when the price of oil increased astronomically because of some major adjustments by OPEC. Many companies would have just gone under but government quickly intervened with a serious subsidy package. Among other things, industry workers – including those of us arbiters who were “pulling gburu” – were made to work two days a week (eight days a month) for full month’s pay. That’s subsidy.

If all American farmers were to be allowed to produce at their optimum levels, food would be surplus and totally useless everywhere. The American government has had the practice over the years of paying some selected farmers to stay at home, not producing anything during the year. That’s subsidy.

In these places, the subsidy scheme is well managed and it gets to the target population – the poor. But in Nigeria, the exact opposite is the case: the real beneficiaries are not the poor but the middlemen and the rent seekers, contrary to the argument usually advanced and which has been at the heart of subsidy’s continuation, that it is pro-poor.

As long as there are long queues in our filling stations, we are merely compounding the problems of the poor. When people queue and sleep at petrol stations like refugees, besides the human degradation involved, you have also effectively reduced from their sources of livelihood because the time spent at the stations are wasted. Funds for infrastructural and human capital development are frittered away on dubious subsidy claims and payments to about 40 corporate citizens of Nigeria, to the utter neglect of the rest of us.

Truly, petrol can sell for N40 a litre but things must get worse before they get better. Subsidy is strangulating us! We must take the tough decision NOW – tighten our belts and let subsidy go!

Those middlemen in the current supply chain must go. Subsidy removal must be approached through what we call “the blind man and his yam”. If you have to pill the blind man’s yam, you must keep whistling while you do so as a sign that you are not introducing the yam into your own mouth.

Similarly, any substantial subsidy removal must be immediately accompanied with the rehabilitation and upgrading of the refineries so the people can see what you are doing with theirmoney. Once we meet our local needs, importation will stop. When importation stops, subsidy ends. The darkest part of the night is just before dawn.

Let’s give ourselves one year to work on the refineries during which period, as a way of choosing the lesser of two evils, we shall allow only the NNPC to import petroleum products directly so that we can know exactly what we are consuming.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/the-subsidy-question-fuel-will-sell-for-n40-a-litre/#sthash.6NHzupZw.dpuf
Are we not mad in Nigeria like this?
How can we not have 8 working refineries out of the useless states that we have?
Our leaders are mad, the soln is quite simple
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by FRANKOXY(m): 4:53pm On Jun 11, 2015
Be steadfast oh Nigerians for we are going to make it.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by free13: 10:25am On Jun 12, 2015
Flets:
After they are done misleading the public under GEJ and taking him out of office.... they are here to remove subsidy with subtle propaganda.

Well written article but missed a valid point which is the crux of Nigeria's problem. There is no unity in purpose in Nigeria. Our patriotism ends in our regions and as such Nigerians are willing tools for sabotage in the hands of the enemy of the government of the day.

Even the best of ideas will be mired at the alter of tribalism and ethnocentrism.

The same marketers who sponsored the 2012 subsidy protest are ready to sponsor another. If the SW and north are not willing to participate. .. the SS and SE gladly will

The SS/SE are willing tools in the hands of the marketers to sabotage any efforts at fixing the refineries. It could ultimately lead to absolute vandalism aimed at frustrating the current govt.

Besides, govt has no business running business. It didnt work with NNPC, Eleme petrochemical, Nigerian Airways, NEPA, NITEL....... and the unending list.

At the end, only way forward is issue licenses to firms to whom refining is core business, form A joint venture like is done in the upstream. ....... then remove subsidy immediately.
Gbam.
Re: The Subsidy Question: Fuel Will Sell For N40 A Litre - vanguard by eromspete(m): 5:22am On Jun 13, 2015
What is this one saying huh

Read clearly and realistically to what I posted. For a decision to take place (implemented) all options have to be considered. If you can't understand the point i made, ask for clarification. undecided

gregzone:
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Some Nigerians shaa undecided
Always pessimistic!
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