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malvisguy212:
All other religion are man made, God invent man and man invent religion, but Christianity is a relationship with God.

God created Man for the express purpose of mutual relationship with him, but gave Man the power of choice and free will. Man chose to break that
relationship and has been trying to find
his own way by inventing religions and
cults of all kinds in an effort to replace
that void left by lack of relationship with
his Creator.
But relationship with God cannot be
found through religion. In fact, religion is the biggest roadblock to seeking a
relationship with God. Religion is simply
Man trying to reach out to God by doing
something that he thinks will please God.
“If I can do enough, say enough, pray
enough, give enough, sacrifice enough
perhaps God will show me favor”. Every
religion is based upon this “WORKS
theology”. Neither ceremony, liturgy,
creeds, sacraments nor wmoney have ever
brought one soul into a reconciled
relationship to God.

https://www.nairaland.com/2206341/what-christianity-teaches-god-hate

franconian:
What then makes Christianity different from all other religions? I personally do not see any difference except maybe the monopoly of access to God claimed by Christians and the self-righteous stance taking by Christians.

bolliejay:
Txs op for the encouragement. I knw he neva sleeps or slumber...just that his timing is different from us. Nice write up Op

malvisguy212:
Lalasticala emusmith, OAM4J

Anas09:
@pleatton. You are an atheist, but you can't just ignore our mythical nonsense, according to u. You are everywhere putting ur mouth in our affairs, just like ur master satan, always coming uninvited wen the sons of god are meeting. There's no god, no answers to prayers. Now move along and leave us in our delusion. If God didn't answer my prayer with undenyable proves, I won't be here today. I was sick to dead, I needed a surgery urgently, but prayers were offered for me before being taken to the hospital, because my folk thought I could die before we got there. I who could not sleep, fell asleep while the prayer was still going on. I had a dream of a tall slim man dressed in all white, wheelling me out from the theatre. The surgery was done. My folk were there waiting for me. People in that hospital lined up to tell me congratulations. When I woke up, I was as sound as every normal person. I was to still be taken to the hospital, I told them the dream. Till this moment am typing this, no reoccurance. Pls pleatton, give my ears peace, u don't believe it doesn't mean its not true. Ur parents did a very poor job raising u.

malvisguy212:
There has been times in my life when
I have been up and down, times when prayer seems to come easy, and times when prayer doesn't come easy at all. There is something, I think, in man that makes it hard to pray, but what is it? Why should anyone have difficulty in praying?

Is it because we think that God will not hear us? That's a possibility. I've heard people speak about getting on their knees to pray and having the feeling that their prayers were bouncing off the ceiling, going no higher than the ceiling, that nobody was hearing it but them. They don't think God is actually hearing what they are saying.

They may feel that way because they
feel unworthy, or because they feel God is down on them. They may feel that God has somehow shut them up and won't listen to them.

Is it because we don't think it will change anything? And if that's the case, is it because we just don't believe? Or that we believe that God is going to do what He's going to do regardless of what we ask? “What's the point in praying about this? I'm going to pray and I'm going to ask God to do this, but God already knows what's best, and He's going to do what's best, and I'm going to say 'Thy will be done,' and what's the
point in asking because His will is going to be done anyway?” Maybe we don't pray a lot because we think it isn't going to change anything. God will just do what he's going to do whether we ask Him to do it or not.

SOLUTION;
Luke 11:1-2, "And it came to pass,
that, as he was praying in a
certain place, when he ceased,
one of his disciples said unto
him, Lord, teach us to pray, as
John also taught his disciples.
And he said unto them, When ye
pray, say…"

Now, most people can, without reading their bible, can site what Jesus said about how you are to pray. So, Jesus gives what is called “the Lord's Prayer,” but he continues, he's NOT THROUGH TEACHING THEM HOW TO PRAY! The “Lord's Prayer” is not all he said in response to the question, “Lord, teach us to pray.”the Lord prayer was just like an idea on what to say when praying , the next verse gives us the right attitude;continue;

Luke 11:5-7, "And he said unto them, Which of you shall have a friend, and shall go unto him at midnight, and say unto him, Friend, lend me three loaves; For a friend of mine in his journey is
come to me, and I have nothing to set before him? And he from within shall answer and say, Trouble me not: the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give
thee."

"Jesus' listeners would have considered the response of the man who was in bed absolutely unconscionable"

Luke 11:8, "I say unto you, Though he will not rise and give him, because he is his friend, yet BECAUSE OF HIS IMPORTUNITY he will rise and give him as many as he needeth."

What's going on here? Well the man's
not going to go away! He's going to
stay down there; he's going to keep
on knocking on the door. He's going to
say, “get up and get me some bread!
I'm not going to let you sleep until you get up and come out here and give me three loaves of bread.

The word for “importunity” in the Greek literally means “SHAMLESNESS.” Without shame. I think that's absolutely fascinating, because a modest man would say, “Gee. I asked and he didn't give me any bread. Well, I guess I better go away now because I must be causing
him a lot of inconvenience.” No, he is
shameless!

THERE ARE THREE EXAMPLES OF IMPORTUNITY;
EXAMPLE ONE
Luke 18:1-8, "And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint; Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man: And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary. And he would not for
a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man; YET BECAUSE THIS WIDOW TROUBLETH ME,I WILL AVENGE HER,LEST BY HER CONTINUE COMING SHE WEARY ME. And the Lord said,
Hear what the unjust judge saith. And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? I tell you that he will avenge them speedily."


Here is a judge that was fearless, and
would not avenge this widow's
adversary. But she kept asking him
OVER and OVER and the judge finally
gave in to her requests, lest she
weary him by her continual coming.

EXAMPLE TWO:
Luke 18:35-39, "And it came to pass, that as he was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain blind man sat by the way side begging: And hearing the multitude pass by, he asked what it meant. And
they told him, that Jesus of Nazareth passeth by. And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me. And they which went before REBUKE
HIM, that he should HOLD his peace…"

They rebuked him. They told him to
shut up and be quiet! To stay out of
the way.BUT

Luke 18:39, "...but he cried so much the more, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me."

What happens to this man if he shuts
up? He's not healed. Yet, there were
people there who were trying to talk
him out of it, telling him to hush. He
didn't hush, he kept yelling. He cried
out!

Luke 18:40-43, "And Jesus stood, and commanded him to be brought unto him: and when he was come near, he asked him, Saying, What wilt thou that I
shall do unto thee? And he said, Lord, that I may receive my sight. And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: THY FAITH HATH SAVED THEE. And immediately he received his sight, and followed
him, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw it, gave praise unto God."

What's faith? Is it a feeling? Is it a
mood? An emotion? Faith is a
persistence, a boldness. It was his
boldness and persistence that got this
man his eyesight. It's not a mood, it's
not a feeling. Think about it. Jesus
said his bold, persistent, aggressive
faith has saved him!

EXAMPLE THREE:
Matthew 15:22, "And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my
daughter is grievously vexed with a devil."

This is a Gentile woman, and Jesus
did not answer her a word. Didn't say
a thing to her, just ignored her! Actually, strange women weren't supposed to be talking to strange men like this. Jesus' manners may seem rude to you, but they were the norm for this time.

Matthew 15:23-26, "But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, SEND HER AWAY; FOR SHE CRIETH AFTER US. But he answered and said, I am not sent
but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, HELP ME. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to
cast it to dogs."


First he ignores her, and then he
insults her! “This is not for you, you
dog! This is for the children. You Gentiles are not in that category of God's children.BUT SHE KEEP ON PRESSING ON:

Matthew 15:27, "And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table."


This is similar to what happened to a
man named Jacob when he wrestled,
physically, with God, and who put
God in a hold and said, "...I will not
let thee go, except thou bless
me" (Genesis 32:24-30). He wrestled
all night long and said he would not let him go until he blesses him! God even put the hollow of Jacob's thigh out of joint, and he still wouldn't let him go! These people would stand up to God, believe it or not. This woman continued to persist in the argument. And what happened?

Matthew 15:28, "Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, GREAT IS THY FAITH : be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole
from that very hour."

What's he talking about? He's talking about her boldness, her persistence, her drive, her energy, her willingness
to hang in there and not give up on her daughter's sake. Sometimes we can find more faith for our children than we can for ourselves. This woman certainly did. Notice Jesus' response when he saw this kind of faith, this kind of persistent boldness. He said, “I'll give you anything you want!” And her daughter was made
whole from that very hour. And Jesus
told her that her bold, persistent, aggressive faith has saved her daughter.

Continue from the Lord prayer;

Luke 11:9-10, "And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened
unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."

One thing you can say for sure is that
a man who doesn't ask is not going to
get it, a man who isn't looking for it isn't going to find it, and a man who doesn't knock on the door will never get it open.

Luke 11:11-13, "If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? Or if he
shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?"

You need to understand, the point that is being made here is not that God is a bad neighbor, the point is that if you expect to be heard of God you're going to have to knock and you're going to have to be persistent in what you do, and you are going to have to be shameless.

CONCLUSION;
Well, the scriptural doctrine of faith is an ACTIVE , persistent, bold approach to God. We seem to think that faith is a PASSIVE virtue; that it's a set of BELIEFS or a way of THINKING , whereas in scripture it's a way of acting!
That's where, possibly, the difference
may come in.

freecocoa:
Shut your ignorant hole, you had to bring his parents into it because he doesn't agree with you, so much for Christianity and being raised right.

Why did you have to go into the theatre at all? Why didn't the giant in white heal you at home? Better still, why allow you get sick and near death to even start with? You couldn't sleep and prayers made you sleep, ever heard of sedatives? You people sound really stup1d and I mean that in a very rude way.

gospi:
Wow. I'm glad I read.It has awakened a lot in my spirit.Thanks for dis write up.I hav loads of evidences that prayer works.I pray that the eyes of so many shall be opened.

Dekatron:
i swear,i feel like hugging u and pecking you.



So much for Christianity. Didn't the bible say : whoso ever says to his brother:YOU ARE A FOOL is IN THE DAMNATION OF HELL or am I wrong?

plaetton:
Lol.

The fact that you felt the necessity to open this thread, to write this op, is all the proof that prayer is merely wishful thinking,.. aloud.

Repeating the same acts , over and over, while expecting a different outcome each time, is the clinical definition of insanity.

I know another area of life where unrelenting faith, persistence and patience also have a chance of paying off eventually.
This is the gambler's anthem.

Prayers, or should I say, the chances of you getting what you prayed for stand with the same odds as any other gambling endeavor.

And again, since we are on this prayer issue, malvisguy, kindly explain to us the difference between prayer and special prayer. Please, I beg.

Dekatron:
Bring the evidences on, will you?


My brothers(plaetton,onetrack,menesheh et al) and my sisters(freecocoa,MzJanet et al) are ready to emancipate you from this sickness.

Bring them and lets analyze,shall we?

franconian:
LONGsuffering? Why would a prayerful individual suffer long in the first place?
While a prayerful individual is "Longsuffering", if a change comes along the line, it becomes an answered prayer, but if that "longsuffering" eventually kill that individual, it becomes an unanswered prayer and maybe "God knows best"

If you observe closely, you will see that both the prayerfull and the "prayerless" suffer thesame consequences.... None has fared better!

Do not relinquish your problem solving ability to any imaginary powerful being because if there is any, he sure don't care about you. Humans, just like other animals, are on their own!
Life is what it is: survival of the fittest!

menesheh:
Even if you prayed from now till next millennium with all sincerity, your prayers will never get any answers, dont be deluded thinking that it will giving those your man made reasons

Bantino:
You have just saved a soul, I thank God for your life and for using you to bless me this Sunday morning. I pray that God Almighty will honour you exalt and answer all your prayers, In Jesus Name - Amen

Elesta:
This is so inspiring. Thanks for taking out time to share. God bless u

franconian:
What then makes Christianity different from all other religions? I personally do not see any difference except maybe the monopoly of access to God claimed by Christians and the self-righteous stance taking by Christians.

Dekatron:
i swear,i feel like hugging u and pecking you.



So much for Christianity. Didn't the bible say : whoso ever says to his brother:YOU ARE A FOOL is IN THE DAMNATION OF HELL or am I wrong?

Squilii:
With Life being the Survival of the fittest the air you breathe is by Gods grace. Take it or leave it someone is out there praying on your behalf. Be it parents or loved ones. I'm sure everyone in your life is not like you. Happy Sunday

franconian:
Do animals pray too? How about plants? What of the microbes? Yet they all make use of the air. Air is a basic need of life, u need not pray for it.



The dinauseurs didn't go into extinction cos they refused to pray, the millions who died in the first n 2nd world war didn't die cos they all refused to pray, those who lost their lives to Ebola didnt die cos they never prayed nor had persons praying for them.....Time and chance happens to all!