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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jun 14, 2015
huptin:


Mind you, I am not saying SE/SS are infallible but based on the propaganda in the system today, why should APC states be dying...it is contradictory and worst heat are my brothers in SW...

In as much as i wanted to agree with you on some valid points you raised, saying that south west states are the worse hit is a big lie.....Abia state is in the east, the state is the first to start owing workers, infact as we speak, the state is owing its workers for over 10 months, Enugu owes workers of its parastatals for 10 months also, imo is owing for 5 months, out of 5 south east states, 3 are owing.
Even Akwa Ibom state, the richest in terms of oil rrvenue is also owing, Rivers state nko? Benue is totally moribund, Bayelsa might be managing to pay its workers because of the small size of its civil service but even the governor admitted that most capital projects have been on hold now for over a year.

You cant compare the staff strength of Anambra's civil service to that of Osun, Osun has a much bigger stafg strenght. Even Soludo criticised the Anambra government for deciding to save money instead of investing the money in projects that will galvanise the state into an economic hub.

It does not make sense saving money when 80% of your indigenes have to migrate to to other places if they hope to make any head way in business.

Yes our governors have been wasteful and stupid, but it is not in any way limited to the south west governors, it is a national thing. And GEJ did not help matters he allowed a culture of waste to thrive without any attempt to check it.

The era of oil is gradually coming to an end, its time to buckle up and face realities, as for the south west.... don't bother about us, if the Abacha and Goodluck era could not bring us down, we shall surely survive.

#word

A bottle of orijin for you sir cheesy

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 4:14pm On Jun 14, 2015
huptin:


Mind you, I am not saying SE/SS are infallible but based on the propaganda in the system today, why should APC states be dying...it is contradictory and worst heat are my brothers in SW...

In as much as i wanted to agree with you on some valid points you raised, saying that south west states are the worse hit is a big lie.....Abia state is in the east, the state is the first to start owing workers, infact as we speak, the state is owing its workers for over 10 months, Enugu owes workers of its parastatals for 10 months also, imo is owing for 5 months, out of 5 south east states, 3 are owing.
Even Akwa Ibom state, the richest in terms of oil rrvenue is also owing, Rivers state nko? Benue is totally moribund, Bayelsa might be managing to pay its workers because of the small size of its civil service but even the governor admitted that most capital projects have been on hold now for over a year.

You cant compare the staff strength of Anambra's civil service to that of Osun, Osun has a much bigger stafg strenght. Even Soludo criticised the Anambra government for deciding to save money instead of investing the money in projects that will galvanise the state into an economic hub.

It does not make sense saving money when 80% of your indigenes have to migrate to to other places if they hope to make any head way in business.

Yes our governors have been wasteful and stupid, but it is not in any way limited to the south west governors, it is a national thing. And GEJ did not help matters he allowed a culture of waste to thrive without any attempt to check it.

The era of oil is gradually coming to an end, its time to buckle up and face realities, as for the south west.... don't bother about us, if the Abacha and Goodluck era could not bring us down, we shall surely survive.


Thanks so much bro...I love your submissions to a great extent...but now;

1)Most states you mentioned in SE owe in patches to singular sectors not the bulk of its civil servants...

2)To say Osun state has more workforce than Anambra is a big lie...I remember brownlord sharing his personal experience of Osun state workforce especially in education sector here...which is a far departure from the scene in Anambra state...

3)Soludo to show he was doing a hatchet job was insulting Jonathan for not saving and in same article criticizing Peter Obi for saving...how biased can one get?...He lost my respect for speaking from both sides of his mouth at same time...

4)SW is worst hit because Osun is far dead economically for the next 30years...Oyo is neck deep in debt alongside Ogun...intact all of them including Lagos...but SE have some exceptional states...Anambra is doing well economically and in infrastructure development...They have the best road network in Nigeria currently...

5)If you read the original post...you will see where I noted that Imo state led by Rochas has no business being declared insolvent only if they had good leaders like their neighbors;Anambra...Remember, Imo state is oil producing state like Ondo unlike Anambra...

6)Igbo migrate not because their state is underdeveloped but rather do to the issue of comparative advantage in business opportunity, development and management...Shell, GE etc are in Nigeria not because Nigeria is more developed than USA but same reason as above...

7)Debts here isn't just salaries but domestic and international debt burden of different states...All SW states are owing so much...

coolYour problem has less to do with leadership at centre(Both Jonathan and Abacha you listed above) than in the grassroots... your LGA and states with Tinubu factor through proxies and companies for inflated contracts....

9)SW gained more in terms of infrastructure from Jonathan than SE...#fact#

10)Your problem is within...

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 4:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
SarahBabyxx:


#word

A bottle of orijin for you sir cheesy

Also remember to read my replies to him before he finishes the bottle of origin...we just applaud whatever appeals to our sentiments than what should be...
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jun 14, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


Also remember to read my replies to him before he finishes the bottle of origin...we just applaud whatever appeals to our sentiments than what should be...

Look in the mirror bruh....#nuffsaid

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by After1one: 4:30pm On Jun 14, 2015
Southwest advisers. We dont need your advice, your region need more of it. Abia, Imo, Ebonyi, are owing salaries except Anambra but you keep screaming SW. I know this is another SW bashing thread, we will be here to reply in kind.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 4:32pm On Jun 14, 2015
AhmedMustapha:

Someone pointed it out to you that 18 states were owing salaries and other arrears and the quoted source included PDP and APC states from the North South East and West but of course the hypocritical you trashed it as one of those incoherent ramblings from the APC fanatics. I have never believed that we have political parties in the country, I call them platforms for the attainment of power so the problem has never been about parties but the system in which the country operates. Before that guy responds to the bolded, you mind telling him what Abians have enjoyed for the 16 years under PDP? Not to worry though, I know your reply-The people from there are so strong they don't need government to survive.
As for your nefarious claims of the debt profiles of states, look into this report
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/fgs-external-debt-states-debt-profile-on-the-ris



Bros, I don't understand your line of argument...

Is it that ALL SW states are not owing domestically and internationally?

Is it my stance that these debts burden are not sustainable?

Is it my submission that these people are enslaving generations unborn?...At the moment, Osun is already owing for the next 30years...How do you explain to a child born today, that his future has been mortgaged negatively till adulthood...

As for Abia state; they knew where the problem came from and they fought it and are continuing through tribunal...BTW Note that the issue in Abia is about a part(Aba; commercial centre) of the state feeling neglected and abandoned while other part (Umuahia; administrative centre) is being pushed ahead...

Problem of SW is in individuals not in platforms...

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 4:38pm On Jun 14, 2015
SarahBabyxx:


Look in the mirror bruh....#nuffsaid

I already did before coming out babe...why not try same and tel me the result?...
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 4:48pm On Jun 14, 2015
patrickmuf:
Selectivity on play here, you leave out states like Benue, Plateau and the likes just to justify your attack on the APC... I'd like to also know your take on the FG which also ran into huge debts overtime...
Half truths, bias and hate doesn't cut it for me...

Hehehehehe...My concern here is that we shift our attention to where our problem is...federal government is NOT a grassroot government... Have you ever asked a question, on what the money from federal government MONTHLY to your LGA is used for...how about the state?...how about your legislatures?...If you think I am biased here; I challenge you to open your own thread, structure it however you want and invite me for deliberations on facts not sentiments... thanks...

BTW federal government can always take care of itself unlike States...hence my attention is on states...I chose to do comparative analysis of two regions of my choice...
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jun 14, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


I already did before coming out babe...why not try same and tel me the result?...


Naaah! I'm good hun......I know when and where to point fingers and throw subtle jabs wink....you can't take away sentiments from political or ethnic issues


You were soo quick to accuse me of being 'sentimental'....when your comments have sentimental undertones....exactly why I asked you to look in the mirror smiley
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:00pm On Jun 14, 2015
After1one:
Southwest advisers. We dont need your advice, your region need more of it. Abia, Imo, Ebonyi, are owing salaries except Anambra but you keep screaming SW. I know this is another SW bashing thread, we will be here to reply in kind.


Hehehehe...don't be myopic bro...

1)Because of your prejudice, you fail to comprehend the post before rushing here to display ineptitude...

2)This thread is about exposure to external debts in terms of loans, obligations etc both domestically and internationally...

3)Don't always see or view stuff through your tribal lens...this is the reason for this thread...

4)SW will be free the day people like you refuse to use the three prong criteria of religion, tribe, and party to determine truths and facts...

5)How can you be calling me a hater when your "enemy" within has made it that for the next 30years, the sons & daughters of Osun state will be paying ONLY debts...same to other SW states...instead of confronting him, you're shielding him and fighting me...

6)I am today an adviser to you because due to your bigotry, you fail to know that wise men learn from both the wise and foolish...Best advise must NOT come from your kinsman...grow up Boy!!!

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by After1one: 5:11pm On Jun 14, 2015
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Whynotthetruth:



Hehehehe...don't be myopic bro...

1)Because of your prejudice, you fail to comprehend the post before rushing here to display ineptitude...

2)This thread is about exposure to external debts in terms of loans, obligations etc both domestically and internationally...

3)Don't always see or view stuff through your tribal lens...this is the reason for this thread...

4)SW will be free the day people like you refuse to use the three prong criteria of religion, tribe, and party to determine truths and facts...

5)How can you be calling me a hater when your "enemy" within has made it that for the next 30years, the sons & daughters of Osun state will be paying ONLY debts...same to other SW states...instead of confronting him, you're shielding him and fighting me...

6)I am today an adviser to you because due to your bigotry, you fail to know that wise men learn from both the wise and foolish...Best advise must NOT come from your kinsman...grow up Boy!!!
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Rubbish from a bigot. You are the one to grow up and stop pouring smelling spit everywhere. Your region is owing same as SW states, your region is not dubai nor eldorado. Abia is in ruins but you have not open a thread to advice them, nothing to write home about Ebonyi but the chief adviser is making noise about SW.

Pls face your region and allow SW people to complain, this thread will be necessary if the people of the SW are trooping to your region to beg which is not the case. Pls advice yourself before advising others.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Tecnonews24: 5:14pm On Jun 14, 2015
I may not be talented in writing, but I do know the APC WAS not change Nigeria needed. no matter what you tell and show to an APC followers, they will still not believe, even with glaring evidence to buttress your point. the reason for that is not far fetched. I guess many of them have been brain washed, no matter what u say it won't hold water, that include the party big wigs. I live in rivers state, I was here when Rotimi ameachi reclaimed his mandate through the court with the help of wike. everybody in rivers state including myself love the man because he hit the ground running from the first day and he perform wonderfully well. that was his first tenure. but the Man became something else when he started missing with APC Folks then ACN . No new project Was started After his eventual defection to the APC . even the once he started befor his defection was abandoned. there is more to APC than people know. I just pity the brain washed followers.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by heneversleep: 5:14pm On Jun 14, 2015
Beautiful nonsense epistle with a biased write up.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by PassingShot(m): 5:16pm On Jun 14, 2015
atlwireles:


Nigerians are ignorant and very pretentious. Jonathan is gone now, most cannot blame him for their poor social,economic and political skill. The time to pay the undertaker has come. The current economic landscape will be here for at least 24 months, if not 48.
In as much as I don't want to blame Jonathan, under whose watch the affected states and indeed the FG became insolvent, he contributed in no small measures. That's incontrovertible.

@the topic, we have to always consider inequalities in allocation of states. That Akwa Ibom or Delta state is not crying does not mean their employees are not groaning. In the SW states you mentioned, it's unfortunate that the affected governors failed to save for rainy days as now.

I will support an FG bailout on:
1. Deduct reasonable amount from monthly allocation of states that are eventually bailed out.
2. FG pays directly into accounts of state's employees, their owed salary arrears while deducting on monthly basis from the state allocation.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:16pm On Jun 14, 2015
SarahBabyxx:



Naaah! I'm good hun......I know when and where to point fingers and throw subtle jabs wink....you can't take away sentiments from political or ethnic issues
You were soo quick to accuse me of being 'sentimental'....when your comments have sentimental undertones....exactly why I asked you to look in the mirror smiley

Sure, I know this topic is a subtle abi delicate issue especially coming from a non-indigene...but the truth must come from somewhere and my moniker forces me to do the needful cheesy

And to allay fears of bigots and ethnic champions, I had to also xray my misgivings with SE states that are erring too...You came in and dropped bottle of origin for someone who's defending the ineptitude of these thieves in the mold of leaders using the maxim; others are owing too...Does my father being a robber justify my having to toe same line?...Some days we need to drop sentiments and give some hard knocks in the mold of truth even to our best of friends...

How do you feel knowing your state is owing debts for the next 30years?...how old are you now? Add 30 to it and see when some people will become free that's if they do not borrow again from now onwards...

Instead of confronting such leaders, their people are confronting me for speaking up...what kind of people are we?...

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by patrickmuf(m): 5:16pm On Jun 14, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


Hehehehehe...My concern here is that we shift our attention to where our problem is...federal government is NOT a grassroot government... Have you ever asked a question, on what the money from federal government MONTHLY to your LGA is used for...how about the state?...how about your legislatures?...If you think I am biased here; I challenge you to open your own thread, structure it however you want and invite me for deliberations on facts not sentiments... thanks...

BTW federal government can always take care of itself unlike States...hence my attention is on states...I chose to do comparative analysis of two regions of my choice...
That you choose two regions and not do a wholesome analysis of the state of affairs of the various States indicates big time bias...Talk about sentiments...

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:19pm On Jun 14, 2015
After1one:
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Rubbish from a bigot. You are the one to grow up and stop pouring smelling spit everywhere. Your region is owing same as SW states, your region is not dubai nor eldorado. Abia is in ruins but you have not open a thread to advice them, nothing to write home about Ebonyi but the chief adviser is making noise about SW.

Pls face your region and allow SW people to complain, this thread will be necessary if the people of the SW are trooping to your region to beg which is not the case. Pls advice yourself before advising others.

Thank you Sir...
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
patrickmuf:
That you choose two regions and not do a wholesome analysis of the state of affairs of the various States indicates big time bias...Talk about sentiments...

cheesy thanks...I did enough comparative analysis to justify my thread...if you think otherwise, I challenge you to do a better analysis and invite me...let's work on facts bro...

btw I choose debts burden today both domestic and international as my yardstick to xray the economic situation in such states and their citizens wrong diagnosis of issues...Try same to counter me...thanks
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by temitemi1(m): 5:23pm On Jun 14, 2015
Well said!
Whynotthetruth:
Brethren, there comes a time in a people's life when they need some introspection. A time they need to give themselves some home truth albeit bitter at first. A time when partisanship should be dropped in the gutters. A time when that ancient axiom of; "charity begins at home" should be reinvented. A time when some sheepish worshipping of politicians and tribal bigotry should be eschewed for a holistic reexamination of our sanity and ability to remain reasonable beings. A time when religious and political affiliations should not be allowed to determine our allegiance or patriotism or truth. And that time is NOW.

This article is written bearing in mind those states especially APC states who have used wicked propaganda to deceive and thwart the facts to/for their people. Masses in this region are simply smart by half; unfortunately they equate their ability to conjure up sentences as evidence of being smart, but the picture of their emptiness is made too glaring when mere speeches and empty rhetorics of politicians sway them. There hollow thought-process is shown when truth to them is first tested on the altar of religion, tribe, and political alliance before it is accepted or thrown to the dogs. Everything is politics and political to them.

South-West people of Nigeria seem to be the worst heat so far by the dwindling economic situation in the country, thanks to oil price fall in the international market. Most of the states there came from the defunct ACN now APC after the merger. Having brainwashed most of their people into believing that PDP is their problem; one begin to imagine what happened to the economy of their(ACN/APC) states, when most PDP states are still holding forth. Based on their own assessment of PDP, NONE of the ACN now APC states should be seen in such mess as it is now. Remember, states like Anambra operate under same oil economy as them, so why is that state not bastardized economically too like most South-West states?

It is a truism that ALL SOUTH-WEST states are neck deep into debts that will in some cases take over 30years to offset baring any more debts or borrowing by such states(What an inter-generational bondage). Outside, Lagos and probably Ondo state due oil derivation fund, none of these states can survive with the amount of debt they have accumulated par chance price of oil continues to fall. Debts are not necessarily bad but when no meaningful projects are on ground to justify such debts it becomes a curse. Otherwise, what is the economic benefit world's tallest talking drum when you cannot pay salaries? What's the sustainability of Opon Imo tablets? What diversity have these leaders from LGA to states achieved in their state economy independent of federal allocation?

In a nutshell, it is high time the people down South, most especially South-West begin to look inwards and ask important questions to their leaders. If Ebonyi state is still healthy economically, why should Osun state be dead already? If Enugu is still forging ahead strong economically, why should Oyo state be bleeding? If Ondo is still doing pretty well, Why should Imo state be insolvent already? If Anambra is moving on gloriously, why should Ogun state be weeping? Necessary and important questions should start popping up NOW!!! Sheepish allegiance to a political party should be eschewed forthwith.

How can most states in the South-West region be executing projects at ridiculously high amounts? How can a kilometre of road cost a billion naira and over in these South-West states, when it is even far cheaper in the swampy Niger-Delta area?

Suffice it to say, that federal government is NOT a grassroot government. We have LGA and states governments. If we cannot hold our grassroot governments accountable and keep monitoring central government, then our succour isn't near yet. To what extent, has these grassroots provided needed infrastructure and jobs to its people especially in the region under review?

Par chance, federal government of Buhari decides to bail out these seemingly economically "dead" states. I think part of the conditions should be;

1)Resignation of the governor if he has been in office for close to two years( because such debts and mismanagement was occasioned by him and not any predecessor).

2)State workforce should be directly paid from source before any balance is sent down to those state's treasury.

3)Debts of such states should be repaid by withdrawals made from source.

4)Balance after 2 & 3 above can be sent down to such states for any infrastructure development.

5)Such states should not be given option of refusal in these conditions. The masses should be priority here and not the governor's political life.

In all, charity begins at home. South-West should wake up and quit hypocritical allegiance based political sentiments. It is NOW or NEVER for them. Your problem is in individuals not in their platform.

Thanks and God bless us all...
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by AhmedMustapha(m): 5:27pm On Jun 14, 2015
Whynotthetruth:




Bros, I don't understand your line of argument...

Is it that ALL SW states are not owing domestically and internationally?

Is it my stance that these debts burden are not sustainable?

Is it my submission that these people are enslaving generations unborn?...At the moment, Osun is already owing for the next 30years...How do you explain to a child born today, that his future has been mortgaged negatively till adulthood...

As for Abia state; they knew where the problem came from and they fought it and are continuing through tribunal...BTW Note that the issue in Abia is about a part(Aba; commercial centre) of the state feeling neglected and abandoned while other part (Umuahia; administrative centre) is being pushed ahead...

Problem of SW is in individuals not in platforms...
Well I don't know if you have any recent information on the economic buoyancy of Nigerian states but as at 2007 the top 10(in terms of GDP) had 4SS states, 2 NW states 3
SW states and 1SE state. Again on the debts some states are sunk in, if you checked that report I quoted it stated that most of the oil-rich states were indebted so the issue is prevalent across the political divide. Osun state YES is at its lowest ebb and I've countlessly denounced the governors incompetence but if you want to go political Osun is actually doing better under the APC.
As for Abia, salaries running into months haven't been paid and the partiality of the government in the equitable distribution of the dividends of democracy confirms its inefficacy

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by aresa: 5:27pm On Jun 14, 2015
If Ebonyi state is still healthy economically,



Ebonyi workers demand unpaid salaries from Governor Elechi

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/180666/1/ebonyi-workers-demand-unpaid-salaries-from-governo.html


Enugu LG workers threaten strike over unpaid salaries


http://nigerianpilot.com/enugu-lg-workers-threaten-strike-over-unpaid-salaries/



Eboyin ko, Ebony ni.... silly comedians trying to feel funky.

Do you village jokers even have mirrors to look into before bothering us with your lies and scams...?

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by huptin(m): 5:27pm On Jun 14, 2015
ur problem has less to doonathan than SE...#fact#

10)Your problem is within...[/quote]

Abia and Imo do not owe partially, they owe in total, in the south west only Osun is really bad.

You mentioned American businesses in Nigeria, yes they are businesses not the whole american citizenry, how many Americans stay outside American, even the chinese what is the proportion of the chinese outside China to the one in China?

Bros if about 50% of a group has to migrate outside their domain to survive, it can only mean one thing, the region lacks basic means of sustaining its citizenry, it is
As simple as that, even the jews had to move back home when they realised that east or west home is the best.

If there are enough industries and jobs and market opportunties easterners would have gone back since, moving the head offices of their business in the east while maintaining branches in other regions, just like every body world wide does, but my dear there are not enough ooportunities for even the indigenes talk less of asking others to migrate east wards for their daily bread.

The east is in a far more dire situation than any other region, the whole Nigeria knows it, thats why no body takes you seriously. If Nigeria breaks today, the east will have to start from a scratch, from ports to airports, to railways, to good motorable road network, good universities (apart from UNN kindly mention another standard university in the east) industries etc. You really have a lot of catching up to do.

So concentrate on the east and leave the west, we will always sort ourselves out. Thank you.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 5:27pm On Jun 14, 2015
Thanks for the message, OP! Your shoulders aren't bearing your head for the fun of it; it's worth the stress.

See my signature! Propaganda and reality are two distinct things. Propaganda may get you a job; reality check mates you.

I will be lying if I tell you I'm happy with what's happening in states where workers are still being owed salaries. Some workers haven't received their pays in over 6 months. It's indeed a terrible position.

The momentum of change preached by the APC during the campaigns is gradually getting dull as reality now stare them in the faces. There's NO quick fix to our problems, and BUBU can't conjure any magics!

It's indeed the time to look within and be sincere with ourselves. While we can control our choices in life, we can't control the consequences of our choices. That's outside our circle of influence.

I've been apolitical in recent days. Just standing by the sidelines and watch events unfold.

Opposition sweet die!

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:28pm On Jun 14, 2015
Tecnonews24:
I may not be talented in writing, but I do know the APC WAS not change Nigeria needed. no matter what you tell and show to an APC followers, they will still not believe, even with glaring evidence to buttress your point. the reason for that is not far fetched. I guess many of them have been brain washed, no matter what u say it won't hold water, that include the party big wigs. I live in rivers state, I was here when Rotimi ameachi reclaimed his mandate through the court with the help of wike. everybody in rivers state including myself love the man because he hit the ground running from the first day and he perform wonderfully well. that was his first tenure. but the Man became something else when he started missing with APC Folks then ACN . No new project Was started After his eventual defection to the APC . even the once he started befor his defection was abandoned. there is more to APC than people know. I just pity the brain washed followers.

It is such a pathetic situation bro...it is synonymous to Adolf Hitler followership back then in history...
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by After1one: 5:28pm On Jun 14, 2015
PassingShot:

In as much as I don't want to blame Jonathan, under whose watch the affected states and indeed the FG became insolvent, he contributed in no small measures. That's incontrovertible.

@the topic, we have to always consider inequalities in allocation of states. That Akwa Ibom or Delta state is not crying does not mean their employees are not groaning. In the SW states you mentioned, it's unfortunate that the affected governors failed to save for rainy days as now.

I will support an FG bailout on:
1. Deduct reasonable amount from monthly allocation of states that are eventually bailed out.
2. FG pays directly into accounts of state's employees, their owed salary arrears while deducting on monthly basis from the state allocation.

Bro, Oyo state for example inherited more than $76m debt, Ogun state under PDP was a dead state with huge debt and lack of infrastructure until Amosun took over 4 years ago to revive the state and its now the most industralized state now. Aregbe also inherit huge debt but he has messed up lately which every sane mind have condemn and also ridicule him here lately. Abia state is in ruins with huge debt and nothing to show for it but the hypocrite advisor cant advise them, when last dis they commission a cage in Ebonyi yet its in debt and owing salaries but the hypocrite singed out SW like his own region is debt free and now eldorado. I hate bigots and hypocrites.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by AhmedMustapha(m): 5:29pm On Jun 14, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


Sure, I know this topic is a subtle abi delicate issue especially coming from a non-indigene...but the truth must come from somewhere and my moniker forces me to do the needful cheesy

And to allay fears of bigots and ethnic champions, I had to also xray my misgivings with SE states that are erring too...You came in and dropped bottle of origin for someone who's defending the ineptitude of these thieves in the mold of leaders using the maxim; others are owing too...Does my father being a robber justify my having to toe same line?...Some days we need to drop sentiments and give some hard knocks in the mold of truth even to our best of friends...

How do you feel knowing your state is owing debts for the next 30years?...how old are you now? Add 30 to it and see when some people will become free that's if they do not borrow again from now onwards...

Instead of confronting such leaders, their people are confronting me for speaking up...what kind of people are we?...
I think you mean APC SE states
and what do you mean by Osun is owing debts for the next 30 years?

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Whynotthetruth(m): 5:34pm On Jun 14, 2015
PassingShot:

In as much as I don't want to blame Jonathan, under whose watch the affected states and indeed the FG became insolvent, he contributed in no small measures. That's incontrovertible.

@the topic, we have to always consider inequalities in allocation of states. That Akwa Ibom or Delta state is not crying does not mean their employees are not groaning. In the SW states you mentioned, it's unfortunate that the affected governors failed to save for rainy days as now.

I will support an FG bailout on:
1. Deduct reasonable amount from monthly allocation of states that are eventually bailed out.
2. FG pays directly into accounts of state's employees, their owed salary arrears while deducting on monthly basis from the state allocation.

As usual shifting blames to others....hehehehe

1)How is FG insolvent plzzzz?

2)Inequalities in allocation was duly considered hence comparative analysis was made between states with similar challenges and allocations....

3)Any bail out that neglects the conditions listed in the original post is a call for anarchy and chaos by buhari...that's if there will be bail out at all...

4)If APC is better than PDP as you people are forcing us to believe... why are they neck deep in debts both internally and externally?... Why is cost of contracts costlier than in PDP states?....where are the sophisticated and heartless thieves actually?...how can one jeopardize his state future for a whopping 30years...
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by jorlons(m): 5:35pm On Jun 14, 2015
[size=16pt]Pls lets not view this thread as one borne out of bigotry. Try to counter the Op's point even though you think it's lopsided, still enlighten us. No need to mess this thread up please.[/size]
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by ichidodo: 5:39pm On Jun 14, 2015
Southwest APC propaganda failing reality is music to our ears......the sweeter it is when you forecast the bleak future ahead yet these janjaweedes defend their thieving demi-gods in all tiers of government.Never thought we will see the day SW and the greater North get to compare socio-economic indices... Awo's regional legacies undone in less than half a generation.
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by AhmedMustapha(m): 5:40pm On Jun 14, 2015
jorlons:
[size=16pt]Pls lets not view this thread as one borne out of bigotry. Try to counter the Op's point even though you think it's lopsided, still enlighten us. No need to mess this thread up please.[/size]
There is no point to counter. Enugu is the most indebted state in the SE but trust the hypocritical op to call Rochas because he is in APC
Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by After1one: 5:42pm On Jun 14, 2015
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ichidodo:
Southwest APC propaganda failing reality is music to our ears......the sweeter it is when you forecast the bleak future ahead yet these janjaweedes defend their demi-gods.Never think we will see the day SW and the greater North get to compare socio-economic indices...
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Trash from a known bigot, take care of your dying region before advising others.

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Re: FIGHTING THE "ENEMY" WITHIN... by Nobody: 5:42pm On Jun 14, 2015
ichidodo:
Southwest APC propaganda failing reality is music to our ears......the sweeter it is when you forecast the bleak future ahead yet these janjaweedes defend their demi-gods.Never think we will see the day SW and the greater North get to compare socio-economic indices...

Nobody is failing, what is going on right now is a blessing in disguise to every state in Nigeria. Time to look inward and become more self reliant.

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