Whynotthetruth:


Sure, I know this topic is a subtle abi delicate issue especially coming from a non-indigene...but the truth must come from somewhere and my moniker forces me to do the needful

And to allay fears of bigots and ethnic champions, I had to also xray my misgivings with SE states that are erring too...You came in and dropped bottle of origin for someone who's defending the ineptitude of these thieves in the mold of leaders using the maxim; others are owing too...Does my father being a robber justify my having to toe same line?...Some days we need to drop sentiments and give some hard knocks in the mold of truth even to our best of friends...

How do you feel knowing your state is owing debts for the next 30years?...how old are you now? Add 30 to it and see when some people will become free that's if they do not borrow again from now onwards...

Instead of confronting such leaders, their people are confronting me for speaking up...what kind of people are we?...

SarahBabyxx:


I seriously don't get you.....until you accept the fact that you're biased in your analysis this won't go anywhere

I have to say that including ebonyi state was funny...despite being 'debt free' what does the state have to show for the money allocated to them....atleast the states with 'debts' have something to show for it

No one is '' defending the ineptitude of these thieves"...the only thing anyone is pointing out here is your 'bias' and the 'hypocrisy' you're hammering on


I'd also like to see you 'analyse' other states owing aside SW states.....one question why SW??

Aigbofa:

God bless you.

After1one:
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Trash from a known bigot, take care of your dying region before advising others.

AhmedMustapha:

I think you mean APC SE states
and what do you mean by Osun is owing debts for the next 30 years?

Whynotthetruth:


As usual shifting blames to others....hehehehe

1)How is FG insolvent plzzzz?

2)Inequalities in allocation was duly considered hence comparative analysis was made between states with similar challenges and allocations....

3)Any bail out that neglects the conditions listed in the original post is a call for anarchy and chaos by buhari...that's if there will be bail out at all...

4)If APC is better than PDP as you people are forcing us to believe... why are they neck deep in debts both internally and externally?... Why is cost of contracts costlier than in PDP states?....where are the sophisticated and heartless thieves actually?...how can one jeopardize his state future for a whopping 30years...

SarahBabyxx:


I seriously don't get you.....until you accept the fact that you're biased in your analysis this won't go anywhere

I have to say that including ebonyi state was funny...despite being 'debt free' what does the state have to show for the money allocated to them....atleast the states with 'debts' have something to show for it

No one is '' defending the ineptitude of these thieves"...the only thing anyone is pointing out here is your 'bias' and the 'hypocrisy' you're hammering on


I'd also like to see you 'analyse' other states owing aside SW states.....one question why SW??

PassingShot:

In as much as I don't want to blame Jonathan, under whose watch the affected states and indeed the FG became insolvent, he contributed in no small measures. That's incontrovertible.

@the topic, we have to always consider inequalities in allocation of states. That Akwa Ibom or Delta state is not crying does not mean their employees are not groaning. In the SW states you mentioned, it's unfortunate that the affected governors failed to save for rainy days as now.

I will support an FG bailout on:
1. Deduct reasonable amount from monthly allocation of states that are eventually bailed out.
2. FG pays directly into accounts of state's employees, their owed salary arrears while deducting on monthly basis from the state allocation.

NULGE grounds LGs in Delta over unpaid salaries

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/05/nulge-grounds-lgs-in-delta-over-unpaid-salaries/

Akwa Ibom, Rivers, others owe workers despite receiving highest Excess Crude money

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183684-akwa-ibom-rivers-others-owe-workers-despite-receiving-highest-excess-crude-money.html

ichidodo:
The only people we see dying are those gullible sheeps in Rural Osun state...Then you add the lots of Oyo and Ogun state plunging headlong into recession before you ask critical questions of demi-gods.

AhmedMustapha:

Which debt free? Is it Ebonyi of Nigeria? The same Ebonyi that the governor Dave Umahi was crying some days back that he has inherited too much debt?
www..com/ng/politics-and-politikings/70586-ebonyi-debt-profile-now-n50bn-gov-umahi.html

In the SE, Enugu is the most indebted state
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/outrage-trails-enugus-debt-profile/
And as for the debt profile of Abia, it is so bad that shame didn't allow Governor Orji publish it

AhmedMustapha:

Which debt free? Is it Ebonyi of Nigeria? The same Ebonyi that the governor Dave Umahi was crying some days back that he has inherited too much debt?
www..com/ng/politics-and-politikings/70586-ebonyi-debt-profile-now-n50bn-gov-umahi.html

In the SE, Enugu is the most indebted state
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/outrage-trails-enugus-debt-profile/
And as for the debt profile of Abia, it is so bad that shame didn't allow Governor Orji publish it

Whynotthetruth:


Imo state is the only SE state that's being declared insolvent by CBN notwithstanding it gets the highest allocation in the entire SE...

Having declared Osun state insolvent giving the huge exposure to internal and external debts including the interests...now add it to the arrears of civil servants for more than seven months running now...deduct it from their average of their federal allocation noting that federal government is NOT owing them any kobo...and tell me when they will be free...

Kindly note that the external debts aside the ever increasing interest will keep growing with depreciation of the naira...

Whynotthetruth:



1) Bro, this same link was what Ngeneukwenu abi Cleverly based her/his argument on to defend over 11years of ACN/APC mismanagement of Osun state treasury...So it doesn't hold any water because it has been trashed yesterday...

2)How does it exonerate the fact that ALL South-West states are neck deep into HUGE debts

3)How does it stop the huge discrepancy between states with seeming same challenges as them and same allocations faring better?

4)Based on states as paired above, I challenge you to dispute these facts are laid out by me...

Your last comment is actually meant better for you...

AhmedMustapha:

There is no point to counter. Enugu is the most indebted state in the SE but trust the hypocritical op to call Rochas because he is in APC

SarahBabyxx:


Mogbe!!! ....ebonyi?? What was the money borrowed used for?

jorlons:



@whynotthetruth, I think he has a point here. Why is this piece x-raying just APC controlled state?? Also what metrics did you use to project a 30 years debt profile for Osun state ??

AhmedMustapha:

Well I don't know if you have any recent information on the economic buoyancy of Nigerian states but as at 2007 the top 10(in terms of GDP) had 4SS states, 2 NW states 3
SW states and 1SE state. Again on the debts some states are sunk in, if you checked that report I quoted it stated that most of the oil-rich states were indebted so the issue is prevalent across the political divide. Osun state YES is at its lowest ebb and I've countlessly denounced the governors incompetence but if you want to go political Osun is actually doing better under the APC.
As for Abia, salaries running into months haven't been paid and the partiality of the government in the equitable distribution of the dividends of democracy confirms its inefficacy

Truckpusher:
Our agreement with the Chinese must stand and like you rightly said :Anybody that still run with that mentality that the Niger Delta would be used like before without getting a fair share of all our agitations is in for a long haul.

They wanted change and got one ,so we too are simply demanding for a change on how the country is being structured and we must get it .

OrlandoOwoh:

Lier, Governor Rauf Aregbesola (ACN) started ruling Osun State in November 2010. PDP ruled the state from 2003 to 2010.

aresa:



All the states in that region including Akwa Ibom and delta are carrying huge debt.

To make matters worse, none of them (Apart from Rivers) including Akwa Ibom didn't build one single classroom.

...but we can show you what new schools and classrooms they built in Osun state...

PassingShot:

In as much as I don't want to blame Jonathan, under whose watch the affected states and indeed the FG became insolvent, he contributed in no small measures. That's incontrovertible.

@the topic, we have to always consider inequalities in allocation of states. That Akwa Ibom or Delta state is not crying does not mean their employees are not groaning. In the SW states you mentioned, it's unfortunate that the affected governors failed to save for rainy days as now.

I will support an FG bailout on:
1. Deduct reasonable amount from monthly allocation of states that are eventually bailed out.
2. FG pays directly into accounts of state's employees, their owed salary arrears while deducting on monthly basis from the state allocation.

Aigbofa:


Nobody is failing, what is going on right now is a blessing in disguise to every state in Nigeria. Time to look inward and become more self reliant.

huptin:
ur problem has less to doonathan than SE...#fact#

10)Your problem is within...

Abia and Imo do not owe partially, they owe in total, in the south west only Osun is really bad.

You mentioned American businesses in Nigeria, yes they are businesses not the whole american citizenry, how many Americans stay outside American, even the chinese what is the proportion of the chinese outside China to the one in China?

Bros if about 50% of a group has to migrate outside their domain to survive, it can only mean one thing, the region lacks basic means of sustaining its citizenry, it is
As simple as that, even the jews had to move back home when they realised that east or west home is the best.

If there are enough industries and jobs and market opportunties easterners would have gone back since, moving the head offices of their business in the east while maintaining branches in other regions, just like every body world wide does, but my dear there are not enough ooportunities for even the indigenes talk less of asking others to migrate east wards for their daily bread.

The east is in a far more dire situation than any other region, the whole Nigeria knows it, thats why no body takes you seriously. If Nigeria breaks today, the east will have to start from a scratch, from ports to airports, to railways, to good motorable road network, good universities (apart from UNN kindly mention another standard university in the east) industries etc. You really have a lot of catching up to do.

So concentrate on the east and leave the west, we will always sort ourselves out. Thank you.

jorlons:



@whynotthetruth, I think he has a point here. Why is this piece x-raying just APC controlled state?? Also what metrics did you use to project a 30 years debt profile for Osun state ??

OrlandoOwoh:

Lier, Governor Rauf Aregbesola (ACN) started ruling Osun State in November 2010. PDP ruled the state from 2003 to 2010.

jorlons:



@whynotthetruth, I think he has a point here. Why is this piece x-raying just APC controlled state?? Also what metrics did you use to project a 30 years debt profile for Osun state ??

Whynotthetruth:





https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-
attainment



https://www.nairaland.com/2377269/list-states-owing-salaries-6

Abia is owing a section of its workforce not the entirety...don't get it twisted...owing salaries isn't good BTW...

how's osun better under APC with aregbesola as helmsman

barcanista:
Having read the thread from page 0 to page 3, I feel so sad with the level of deploration that our federating units have become.

@Whynotthetruth: You did well by bringing out the ills of states though I would have preferred that you do a total analyses instead of comparative analyses. Some people misinterpreterd your intentions to be targeting a particular region based on their own assessment. Anyway, you did well.

dearpreye:
Thanks for the message, OP! Your shoulders aren't bearing your head for the fun of it; it's worth the stress.

See my signature! Propaganda and reality are two distinct things. Propaganda may get you a job; reality check mates you.

I will be lying if I tell you I'm happy with what's happening in states where workers are still being owed salaries. Some workers haven't received their pays in over 6 months. It's indeed a terrible position.

The momentum of change preached by the APC during the campaigns is gradually getting dull as reality now stare them in the faces. There's NO quick fix to our problems, and BUBU can't conjure any magics!

It's indeed the time to look within and be sincere with ourselves. While we can control our choices in life, we can't control the consequences of our choices. That's outside our circle of influence.

I've been apolitical in recent days. Just standing by the sidelines and watch events unfold.

Opposition sweet die!