SarahBabyxx:


I seriously don't get you.....until you accept the fact that you're biased in your analysis this won't go anywhere

I have to say that including ebonyi state was funny...despite being 'debt free' what does the state have to show for the money allocated to them....atleast the states with 'debts' have something to show for it

No one is '' defending the ineptitude of these thieves"...the only thing anyone is pointing out here is your 'bias' and the 'hypocrisy' you're hammering on


I'd also like to see you 'analyse' other states owing aside SW states.....one question why SW??

Why not do an analysis of those other states?
why wait for me knowing I am biased?

SarahBabyxx:


Exactly why I asked him why he singled the SW states out and the SE states that suit him

hehehehe...did you read the original post at all

Whynotthetruth:


thanks boss...and happy Sunday...its time people do proper analysis of their problem... LGA and states receive allocation monthly but they prefer to look unto federal always... more problem is within not outside...

Indeed the problems is within! The governors have cleverly turned the eyes of the people on the FG!

Whynotthetruth:



thanks...16years less APC 9years...what's the economic situation when Oyinlola left office?

You're the defendant, tell us.

whitecat1:
The Op is an ibo that wants to denigrate the SW!

I can't believe Aigbofa and the rest of you fell for it!

Every negative story they write about SW/Yoruba, ibos/SE have it worse but, hide it. Example is 7 months payments a Yoruba governor owe making daily news by ibos, while an ibo governor that is owing 10 months is almost invisible!

It really wasn't hard to spot the usual ibo lies, ignorance and deception. Funny enough, the joker didn't do basic research hence claiming enugu and eboyin are financially stable when in fact they are they are equally in debt and are owing salaries .

The ignorant OP is intellectually lazy and fraudulent..

AhmedMustapha:

Read and see how well your 'successful' states are doing

leadership.ng/news/437091/new-ebonyi-governor-laments-inherited-high-debt-profile

www.news247.com.ng/news/ebonyi-inherited-n50bn-debt-says-umahi#.VX2zcDNw1X0

In the SE, Enugu is the most indebted state
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/outrage-trails-enugus-debt-profile/
And as for the debt profile of Abia, it is so bad that shame didn't allow Governor Orji publish it

I did a comparative analysis of SW cum SE states with similar economic situation and fortunes...

If you desire to open a thread to crosscheck debts alongside infrastructure on ground...you're free...

I know both regions very well outside newspaper propaganda and lies...

My analysis is based both from evidence on paper and what's on ground...

You can go back to my original post to refresh your mind on the essence of this thread...

You can open a thread on divergent aspects of this topic and let's discuss such as analysis of individual SE states...thanks

aresa:



It really wasn't hard to spot the usual ibo lies, ignorance and deception. Funny enough, the joker didn't do basic research hence claiming enugu and eboyin are financially stable when in fact they are they are equally in debt and are owing salaries .

The ignorant OP is intellectually lazy and fraudulent..

I was equally shocked when I read that part. A little research doesn't kill

And their obsession with anything Yoruba is out of this world insane!

aresa:



It really wasn't hard to spot the usual ibo lies, ignorance and deception. Funny enough, the joker didn't do basic research hence claiming enugu and eboyin are financially stable when in fact they are they are equally in debt and are owing salaries .

The ignorant OP is intellectually lazy and fraudulent..

PassingShot:

I no get time for your PDP vs APC now.

However, common sense should make you appreciate that if the FG needed to borrow to pay salaries since March (?), many states being in debt should not be surprising. If GEJ is not to be blamed for the states' precarious situations, he MUST surely be held accountable for the mind boggling indebtedness of the FG. Abi na lie?

And why must your conditions be the only acceptable ones? You funny guy.

Like I said earlier, Aregbe and Ajimobi messed up but the deed is done and I support whatever ways to make them answer for any wrongdoing they may have engaged in. Dem no be my uncle or brothers.

hehehehe...Jonathan should be held for federal government debts running from independence till date...Why not open a thread doing an analysis of funds borrowed by him and how he failed in utilization?... Do I have to do your part as anti-Jonathan guy...

thanks for the last part of your post, you're evolving into something outside of fanatical fan...just keep it up and do not fall back...

AhmedMustapha:

I was equally shocked when I read that part. A little research doesn't kill

I just did my own research too Enugu is the most indebted in SE ....soo many states with debts its scary

www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/huge-debts-await-buhari-in-coming-govs/

Whynotthetruth:



I did a comparative analysis of SW cum SE states with similar economic situation and fortunes...

If you desire to open a thread to crosscheck debts alongside infrastructure on ground...you're free...

I know both regions very well outside newspaper propaganda and lies...

My analysis is based both from evidence on paper and what's on ground...

You can go back to my original post to refresh your mind on the essence of this thread...

You can open a thread on divergent aspects of this topic and let's discuss such as analysis of individual SE states...thanks

You never gave paper evidence Sir! It was when I got tired of the half-truths the post was filled with you got paper evidence from ME of how the SE states (the ones governed by PDP I mean) were owing tons of workers

Whynotthetruth:



I did a comparative analysis of SW cum SE states with similar economic situation and fortunes...

If you desire to open a thread to crosscheck debts alongside infrastructure on ground...you're free...

I know both regions very well outside newspaper propaganda and lies...

My analysis is based both from evidence on paper and what's on ground...

You can go back to my original post to refresh your mind on the essence of this thread...

You can open a thread on divergent aspects of this topic and let's discuss such as analysis of individual SE states...thanks

Debts are not necessarily bad but when no meaningful projects are on ground to justify such debts it becomes a curse.

You obviously don't read over what you post. You not only dabbled into infrastructure in your original post, it was part of your argument and what you based your flawed assertions so why go elsewhere or start a new thread to debate that?

Quit being crookedly deceptive and disingenuous.

Whynotthetruth:



I did a comparative analysis of SW cum SE states with similar economic situation and fortunes...

If you desire to open a thread to crosscheck debts alongside infrastructure on ground...you're free...

I know both regions very well outside newspaper propaganda and lies...

My analysis is based both from evidence on paper and what's on ground...

You can go back to my original post to refresh your mind on the essence of this thread...

You can open a thread on divergent aspects of this topic and let's discuss such as analysis of individual SE states...thanks

Done that already

AhmedMustapha:

Read and see how well your 'successful' states are doing

leadership.ng/news/437091/new-ebonyi-governor-laments-inherited-high-debt-profile

www.news247.com.ng/news/ebonyi-inherited-n50bn-debt-says-umahi#.VX2zcDNw1X0

In the SE, Enugu is the most indebted state
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/outrage-trails-enugus-debt-profile/
And as for the debt profile of Abia, it is so bad that shame didn't allow Governor Orji publish it

BTW did you read the link below before all this back and forth argument

https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-
attainment

When you're done reading them, try and go back to the topic of this thread and remind yourself what we are discussing bro...

OrlandoOwoh:

You're the defendant, tell us.

I am not defendant bro...You're the one...I am only trying to let you know that the problem is within...it is with in those individuals you people chose to defend...

Whynotthetruth:


I am not defendant bro...You're the one...I am only trying to let you know that the problem is within...it is with in those individuals you people chose to defend...

You started with lies. Nothing stands on lies. Good night.

God bless the President.

Whynotthetruth:


BTW did you read the link below before all this back and forth argument

https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-
attainment

When you're done reading them, try and go back to the topic of this thread and remind yourself what we are discussing bro...

No matter how nebulous you try to be, what your post says is simple "The people of the SW, the APC have veiled you with propaganda, look at how your SE/SS brothers under PDP are doing, don't you want to be like them?"
And my reply to that is simple all the PDP states you mention are owing salaries and other arrears, Abia, Ebonyi and Enugu the supposed model PDP states are sunk in debt, Enugu is even the most-indebted in the SE

barcanista:
Having read the thread from page 0 to page 3, I feel so sad with the level of deploration that our federating units have become.

@Whynotthetruth: You did well by bringing out the ills of states though I would have preferred that you do a total analyses instead of comparative analyses. Some people misinterpreterd your intentions to be targeting a particular region based on their own assessment. Anyway, you did well.

E be like say na only on Sunday you dey get sense oh bro.

My comment ba?

AregbeUseless, my state governor, is nothing but a GOAT.

He borrowed from every everywhere, the goat never thought price of crude would dwindle which affected the allocation the state gets.

When they deduct money to service the debt, what remains is little or nothing. So, what does he do with the little FG send monthly to Osun? I don't know.

We shall overcome this problem, I believe.

Whynotthetruth:


hehehehe...did you read the original post at all

''If Enugu is still forging ahead strong economically,
why should Oyo state be bleeding?''

^^this is what you said....you also forgot to add that Enugu is one of the most indebted states in SE....infact it is one of the most indebted states as a whole

www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/huge-debts-await-buhari-in-coming-govs/

I wonder how a state 'forging ahead strong economically' is neck-deep in debt


Still need me to tell you why I think you're biased??

Inasmuch as I am a fanatic of the APC, I have no choice but to agree with your piece. Some of these govs especially aregbe has really disappointed me.

Aigbofa:


Based on their own assessment or based on what is obvious and glaring to everyone.
He specifically mentioned SW states when several SE states are facing the same issues.

Well, I wish we can be discussing issues without ethnic bashing

Whynotthetruth:



To see the kind of people I am arguing with here...smh...
All your posts show that you're yet to move outside your environment...

https://www.nairaland.com/2263635/south-east-south-west-south-south-lead-

https://www.nairaland.com/2377269/list-states-owing-salaries-6

All these fake statistics u keep posting to keep your self happy means nothing. The reality is that the south east is by far the least developed region in Nigeria, was it not just 2 years ago that the first international airport started operating in the east? Do you have a sea or even river port? Again how many standard universities do you have? How many industries? How many good and motorable roads?

You think a place is developed because of a few mansions being built here and there in the bush? Face the east and stop posting fake statistics to make your self happy, that was exactly the way Okonjo Iweala was busy posting stupid statistics while the nation was sinking, while in reality, she has been borrowing money to pay salaries.

Nice write up@ Op but i don't think your write up should focus on South West States alone.
The truth is we don't have leaders that have an idea about what Government is about. Nigerians really need to wake up and stop been tribalistic.

Nigerians need to fight against Godfatherism,tribalism,corruption and selfish interest.
I don't know why people like Tinubu with shady past should be the one to dictate what goes on in South West.

Nigerian Politics Stinks.

Aigbofa:


Is Anambra the only state not having problems paying salaries? Are there other states in the south west paying salaries? If so why are you specifically mentioning SW states?
If a loan was taken to build a road or build a school did you factor in the economic benefits of those things to the future of that child from Osun as compared to the one from Anambra?
This is a futile attempt to single out the SW for bashing and you are doing a pretty bad job.

Shame on you for been sentimental, you are so blind to see the truth. Why do you guys always base everything on Ethnicity and tribalism? You all are sick in the head, that's why you keep having Drug barons and whatnot as your leaders. You all stink of corruption.

barcanista:
Well, I wish we can be discussing issues without ethnic bashing

When was the last time you advised your minions running around NL with their endless tribal and bigoted rants against tribal rants?

Your idiotic PMB Dullard thread was tribal bashing and baiting for you and your tribal zombies to celebrate and jestaculate in.

You obviously don't know how hypocritical, shallow, untrustworthy, discredited and fraudulent you are...

aresa:


When was the last time you advised your minions running around NL with their endless tribal and bigoted rants against tribal rants?

Your idiotic PMB Dullard thread was tribal bashing and baiting for you and your tribal zombies to celebrate and jestaculate in.

You obviously don't know how hypocritical, shallow, untrustworthy, discredited and fraudulent you are...

How does that thread relate to ethnic bashing? You sound pained man but not ma fault...


I never asked your opinion about me btw

Enahi:
Shame on you for been sentimental, you are so blind to see the truth. Why do you guys always base everything on Ethnicity and tribalism? You all are sick in the head, that's why you keep having Drug barons and whatnot as your leaders. You all stink of corruption.

Keep quiet and stop ranting. The thread itself is ethnic and tribal so sit calm your ass.ss down..

aresa:


When was the last time you advised your minions running around NL with their endless tribal and bigoted rants against tribal rants?

Your idiotic PMB Dullard thread was tribal bashing and baiting for you and your tribal zombies to celebrate and jestaculate in.

You obviously don't know how hypocritical, shallow, untrustworthy, discredited and fraudulent you are...

Immoral of the story: it's ok to owe state workers so long as your tribe can defend you.. It's also ok to borrow money and squander! Naija is irredeemable!! Do children of owed workers read our comments? How has this country raised a generation of heartless And insensitive people??

barcanista:
How does that thread relate to ethnic bashing?

Last I checked, you started a thread on NL titled Daura (The President's ethnic home and belonging with derogatory term (Dullard) next to it while your minions responded accordingly to your idiotic and senseless tribal baiting...

That was ethnic and tribal baiting and you should know this unless you have the brain of a 2 year old.

I don't even remember seeing you advising your fellow trolls against ethnic bashing inside the ethnic and tribal thread you started.

You sound pained man but not ma fault..

Highlighting your idiocy and being pained over your thoughtless ethnic and tribal baiting thread are 2 different things. Not that you are intelligent enough to figure this out anyway..

I never asked your opinion about me btw

Obviously, the basic concept associated with a discussion forum is unknown and foreign to you.. I don't need your silly and irrelevant permission before characterizing your foolishness and Ethno/Tribal atrocities so quit over estimating your redundant and worthless importance...

huptin:


Mind you, I am not saying SE/SS are infallible but based on the propaganda in the system today, why should APC states be dying...it is contradictory and worst heat are my brothers in SW...

In as much as i wanted to agree with you on some valid points you raised, saying that south west states are the worse hit is a big lie.....Abia state is in the east, the state is the first to start owing workers, infact as we speak, the state is owing its workers for over 10 months, Enugu owes workers of its parastatals for 10 months also, imo is owing for 5 months, out of 5 south east states, 3 are owing.
Even Akwa Ibom state, the richest in terms of oil rrvenue is also owing, Rivers state nko? Benue is totally moribund, Bayelsa might be managing to pay its workers because of the small size of its civil service but even the governor admitted that most capital projects have been on hold now for over a year.

You cant compare the staff strength of Anambra's civil service to that of Osun, Osun has a much bigger stafg strenght. Even Soludo criticised the Anambra government for deciding to save money instead of investing the money in projects that will galvanise the state into an economic hub.

It does not make sense saving money when 80% of your indigenes have to migrate to to other places if they hope to make any head way in business.

Yes our governors have been wasteful and stupid, but it is not in any way limited to the south west governors, it is a national thing. And GEJ did not help matters he allowed a culture of waste to thrive without any attempt to check it.

The era of oil is gradually coming to an end, its time to buckle up and face realities, as for the south west.... don't bother about us, if the Abacha and Goodluck era could not bring us down, we shall surely survive.

anambra people poor? You are a joke! Osun, OYO and Ogun States are owing Anambra state FYI....
Anambra state hasn't renegade in paying salaries when due. Governor even added 15percent to salaries,
They pay youth corp members when due.
They provide accomodation for corp member too.. The school management also pay them stipends too. Anambra state is very strong