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| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Geofavor(m): 5:43pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
DarryOsh:thnx |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by RobinHez(m): 6:17pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
johnydon22:hehe...u could start with blogger @ www.blogger.com or wordpress @ www.. Its pretty easy ![]() Lol. .just to be fair, define spiritual. . . so we can grasp the exact notion you take it to implylike i said, we shouldnt do this here...we shouldnt do it at all sef ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 6:21pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
RobinHez:Ok will check it out then like i said, we shouldnt do this here...we shouldnt do it at all sefThis is a science discussion thread. . . You made an assertion, you shouldn't try to shield it from healthy scrutiny and discussion, after all that's all science is all about; when you see a clue you follow it up. . who knows, You might be the first person to prove that notion ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by RobinHez(m): 6:29pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
johnydon22:ermm...*scratches head* u starteď it by mentioning the rapture. anyways, there are alot of threads in the religious section were such and more questions are being tackled....which reminds me of my "can i be a scientist and still have religious faith" question. ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by RobinHez(m): 6:30pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
6. Why havent we seen pictures of the objects left in the moon like the flag and the spaceships nd others ![]() johnydon2 |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 8:01pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
RobinHez:We have Am sure i mentioned it on my first reply about the satelite in orbit around the moon, all the 9 landings sites and objects have been spotted by the Lunar orbiter . . here read about it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jun 23, 2015 |
![]() Hello guys! You have probably noticed . . . I don't come online during the day. This is due to my data plan. Which comes active at night. But, I will try to buy a day plan so I can be active here during the day. It is hardly responsible of an OP to go AWOL on his thread. ![]() Yes, I have a question. One I have been ruminating on for a long time. We know that lightning is basically a stream of electrons that shoot up to the sky to complete an electrical circuit during heavy storms. I have a theory that the thunder we hear is actually due to the sonic boom created by the electrons which are moving at supersonic speeds in air. But that is besides, My question is, why is lightning crooked? Why not, like light, move rectilinearly? It is only natural for a stream of subatomic particles to follow a straight line to conserve their energy. I find it highly logical too. But lightning, and any high voltage electron stream for that matter, doesn't.Now, here is what's funny, electron guns do not behave like this. I believe this is because in that situation, electrons act as waves and therefore undergo rectilinear propagation. Whereas, in lightning, they behave as matter. Hence that . . . . does anyone here have a better . . . or different explanation?Cc Johnydon22 et al Cheers! ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 3:28am On Jun 24, 2015 |
johnydon22:Mars colonization? Okay, let's. ![]() So, first, if we are to live on mars, a luxurious interplanetary transport system will need to be developed. Meanwhile, there is a plan to build am elevator that goes from sea level to space. HERE is a link I found on that subject. Also, there will be a need to terraform the host planet. In this case, mars, in my opinion, there are only two options. Either to build self contained pods on the surface on the planet . . . containing atmospheric air . . . or to change the atmosphere of the Entire planet itself! In that case' they will have to dissolve the needed oxygen in a very dense gas in order to prevent the atmosphere from escaping. Also, people living on mars will be required to wear additional clothing containing heavy objects in order to make their weight equal to that of earth's. Otherwise, their bone tissue will atrophy and can fracture quite easily. And then there is the obvious problem of getting water to the planet. I find this a formidable problem. For what are we to do? Are we to "fetch water" from earth and "pour" it on mars? ![]() I think water has Been found at the poles of the planet, but it is not enough to regulate the planetal temperature. We have will have an excess temperature range of 25 degrees by day and -40 degrees by night At this point, I would go with the pods. They would have to be fashioned like greenhouses. Containing heat trapping mechanisms. At least until greater technology . . . such as one that can. Defy the very natural process of an entire terrestrial ball. ![]() Water would have to be constantly recycled. Although, at first, water will have to be harvested from the poles. ![]() And then, in order to produce power, I suggest a fuel cell system. You might gun for nuclear power, but I say, why begin our sojourn on a strange planet by using such a bold and aggressive power source? there is already enough processes needing maintenance. We do not need to add a nuclear power plant to the already over flowing list! ![]() Depending on if the planet turns out to have a hot core, geothermal power might also be considered. I realize that by using a fuel system, am oxygen source will be needed. The result being that The inhabitants of future mars colonies will have to compete with their own power source for oxygen! they will find this, I trust, rather interesting,We can also manage a betavoltaic power source. But the technology has not yet been perfected. Even I am working on a prototype. Expect my research paper by 2017. ![]() I am also currently working on a technology . . . it allows one to breath perpetually in a contained suit. Utilizing only electrical power. Expect the research paper on that by next year. Back to the planet, I think the pods should be fashioned in such a way that they can be easily expanded with as little as possible reconstruction. But I trust NASA's engineers are not total idiots. They will see to that. ![]() In order to keep the biosphere going, there will be need for food and water. This different from the water being used to bathe . . . or flush . . . it needs to be clean. As source of food, I recommend genetically modified foods. I know the possibility that they might not be healthy, but one can not eat his or her cake and have it. you cannot be among the first people to colonize a new planet, and still expect to compete with Methuselah. ![]() So, plants that grow exceedingly fast, are disease resistant, and rather nutritious should be developed. I trust genetic engineers will have this taken care of. ![]() As source of water, well, since the settlement is most likely to be located around the equator, and water is found at the planet's poles, they will have to devise a means of transporting water through extremely huge distances . . or perhaps, do you have another solution? After years of playing sim city . . . . . . I have realized that in order to get humans to do whatever you need, you need to make them happy. There needs to be ways to entertain the humans there. Of course, they will have to go in pairs. Because . . . . konji I also recommend selecting only geniuses . . . as in individuals with IQs of above 130 these are considerably easier to satisfy. One only needs to provide a means of knowledge acquisition. Besides, they will be far more innovative than average intellects. I suggest constant surveillance. HD and 3D in fact. That rubbish they did on the moon . . . not acceptable!Watching the people on mars should be like watching a discovery world documentary. Clear, colorful, and acoustically optimal. . . don't you agree? ![]() Of course, it takes about twenty minutes for the whole signal exchange to be completed. Well, we can deal with that. I guess . . . I heard that NASA is planning to send just two people on the first mission. I strongly advice against this. We are speaking massive homesickness and a sense of being truly alone! I suggest at least four, if the technology we have cannot support it, well, recruit more brilliant engineers. We are plenty in naija. And we are all searching for jobs. also, they should recruit more billionaires for funding. Again, they should come to naija, I heard dangote wants to buy arsenal . . . it seems he doesn't know what to do with his fat account. Let's give him something. ![]() Concerning waste on the planet. Poop, urine, used paper, onion skins . . . and so on, I suggest a full recycle operation where EVERY POSSIBLE THING is recycled. Compost, can be made from obvious sources, paper can also be recycled. In fact, if possible, the only thing not to be recycled will be the power. ![]() In conclusion, I believe we can do this, we just need to take all factors into consideration. Also, more brilliant minds should be brought in. As well as more funding. I would even suggest that every university has a research section devoted to mars. And . . . . in twenty five years, you might just sit down to watch a program titled . . . "updates from the red planet." ![]() Let's make this as interactive as possible, let all of us comment. Not just my Oga here, ![]() I learnt that some people think we can never colonize the red guy. Where are you people? Come and talk. we dey here abeg. Your two kobo needed. ![]() Cheers! |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 3:39am On Jun 24, 2015 |
Aha! I'm addition, I headed over to your thread where I discovered that hydroponics was the selected method for growing plants, well I suggest Aeroponics instead, the later is more accommodating and more stable. Also, it is highly efficient, you might want to conduct your personal research though. this is merely my opinion.I also noticed that cosmic radiation was an issue . . . hence I ask . . . is there no material in this whole world that can reflect gamma radiation? ![]() Sounds highly inconvenient. However, we cannot be stopped by this! ![]() Force fields . . . . oh! Of hasn't been invented yet ![]() I guess our only alternative is lead shielding. Bummer. |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 3:55am On Jun 24, 2015 |
Alas! I googled marsOne. It would seem they have been wrapped up in a scandal recently. A link I found HERE is rather discouraging. Perhaps you can tell is your thoughts on this? |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by samwayne154(m): 3:03pm On Jun 24, 2015 |
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| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jun 24, 2015 |
samwayne154:Hmm! I hope that isn't homework ![]() Anyway, let's get on with it. We are given, from your question, Frequency =256 Length of tube =33.2 We are required to find v , velocity However, there is a relationship between these values. Given as f=v/4l. Where f is frequency, l is length, and of course, v is velocity which we are looking for. At this point, we rearrange the equation to our satisfaction. In this case, we need v solitary on one side. We simply multiply both sides by 4l Getting v = 4 x l xf Substituting in given values, v = 4 x 33.2 x 256 Allowing the calculator to work its magic, ![]() v = 33996.8 It is then up to you to convert the above value, which is in cm/s to any unit you want. I would go with 340m/s though ![]() Cheers! |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by XploraBen(m): 10:01pm On Jun 24, 2015 |
Teempakguy:Your submission on Mars colonisation is herculean,and would take several years before its workability becomes realistic.Though ideas such as yours can not be jettisoned because the advancement of future technology might handle it. And as you rightly said,this project will require colossal amount of money--and as well as resources.More brainy scientists and astronauts will be needed...You can as well be part of 'em. |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 12:11am On Jun 25, 2015 |
XploraBen:Well, I fear sometimes I get overly ideal. Sure, they can recruit me. But only as a scientist though. I am not much of an astronaut. ![]() Also, I don't expect any landing on Mars in this decade. While I believe we can achieve this within that time. We just need the right minds. ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by XploraBen(m): 3:43am On Jun 25, 2015 |
Teempakguy:If only you were an American,you would have being noticed.You might probably be on your way to becoming a NASA scientist.Because for one thing,the whites appreciate brilliant and ingenious minds--just like yours.They don't allow ideas that will promote their lot to be punctured by the blunt edge of insouciance and flippancy. |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by astroame: 2:41pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
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| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Psylas(m): 2:47pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
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| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
XploraBen:LOL Sir johnydon22. You are scarce here oh . . . Meanwhile, there are many ways to get the attention of the americans one invention here, another scientific achievement there and they will beg you to come study in one of their universities. That being said, I saw what you did there. all of us are brilliant. Not just me. |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 3:21pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Teempakguy:Hey bro, Have been a little busy with my stories. . . Anyway am here.. Will respond to your posts shortly. . . Anyway i have this idea of making a drone, need interested partners. . . Two heads are better than one and you know of course resources ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 3:28pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Psylas:welcome. ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 3:31pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Teempakguy:MarsOne to me now seems like a far fetched idea. . Their plans are poorly executed and to me there isn't much chance of the mission being a success. . .NASA has been planning a return trip to the moon since 2004 and due for 2019/2020. . Imagine that duration of a preparation just to get to the moon then imagine a manned trip to Mars. If we are seeing any mission to Mars soon, i definitely think it would be NASA's planned mission for 2020 to launch Curiosity Rover's successor into the planet, For manned mission i anticipate NASA going there before this poorly planned MarsOne, Unless there is a secret agency planning this mission for many years now . . ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
johnydon22: ![]() Well, my own anticipation is that the first mars landing will be in 2030. And that by then, it will be easy to return. ![]() It is just fifteen years from now. During that period, let the astrophysicists work. Besides, I read that HALF of all missions to mars fails Knowing this, I cannot help but think of the mars one mission as another dangerously planned fabrication that has a fifty percent of sending humans to the asteroid belt instead of mars. Their last moments will be horrible. ![]() But I agree with you. NASA has the best plan right now. . . that the public knows of. About the drone, I recommend pakingzzz. I trust you know him? Cheers! ![]() ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 4:31pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Teempakguy:The next launch of Curiosity Rover successor mission i think is the right trigger we need for NASA to develop a heightened interest to send humans to the red planet... Anyways a technology have been developed that can send scientist to Mars without them leaving earth, a blue print of them is generated on mars like a blueprint telephone call. . that way they can explore mars and research on it like they are there without not even crossing the comfort of their lab . . . But first the blueprint machine will be launched into Mars. . . .I hope curiosity rover will have like 5companions before 2025 Besides, I read that HALF of all missions to mars failsMore than half of the missions if you ask me but none have been manned before. . . They had to come up with a drop method for the curiosity rover to be dropped on Mars which was successful. . . Have watched the documentary on t.v. . They had many disappointments But I agree with you. NASA has the best plan right now. . . that the public knows of.Don't quite know the pakingzz guy ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 5:03pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
johnydon22:Really? Is this like generating a clone? Or a humanoid robot linked to their brains? Is it on the internet? If so, please provide a link, ![]() More than half of the missions if you ask me but none have been manned before. . . They had to come up with a drop method for the curiosity rover to be dropped on Mars which was successful. . . Have watched the documentary on t.v. . They had many disappointmentsexactly, none have been manned before. But imagine if they had been manned ? Like the mars one mission? I for one advocate that no attempt is made to approach the red planet with humans until a higher success rate is recorded. Don't quite know the pakingzz guyOh, bummer . . . |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by johnydon22(m): 5:35pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
Teempakguy:Got that from Nasa official twitter account @Nasa . . . I follow mostly all their verified official accounts, From Nasa_Iss to even Curiosity rover to messanger and even astronauts . . . let me drop a picture i saved from the twitter. . this is a model of the machine
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| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 11:57pm On Jun 25, 2015 |
johnydon22:Ah, I have seen it. I do believe it is referred to as Hololens. From Microsoft. ![]() Hololens . . . might actually have a lot of potential. Especially for engineers. Not just mars scientists. In other news . . . chemists in the house, how would you separate a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen? ![]() I will be back to mention you oh. ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 1:18am On Jun 26, 2015 |
Teempakguy: ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 1:53am On Jun 26, 2015 |
Teempakguy:What you termed as length of tube should be wavelength. Velocity is frequency multiply by the wavelength(v = fλ) . V = 265 x 33.2 V = 8,798 ≈ 880 m/s |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 5:10am On Jun 26, 2015 |
all4naija:adonbilivit! If you are right, then it means, my physics teacher was wrong. It also means that the speed of sound is 88m/s. Wikipedia disagrees with you on this. I think you are switching the formula for c=f/\ , speed of electromagnetc radiation, for v=4fl which is the velocity of sound in an open pipe. They are quite unique. |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 6:09am On Jun 26, 2015*. Modified: 1:19pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Teempakguy:That is the velocity of wave. The wave formula. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf5aESZ0Fzg You are correct, if it is for an open tube with one end closed because it is the air that will be vibrating and there would be an odd integer(for the antinode). The wavelength is 1/4 the length of the tube. It would be F=nV/4L in that case with the way you addressed it before. P.S. I didn't see what he wrote though. I used what you wrote to solve the problem. |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 6:13am On Jun 26, 2015 |
Teempakguy: ![]() |
| Re: The Sciences Discussion Thread. by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jun 26, 2015*. Modified: 1:34pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Teempakguy:Lie is a false statement made intentionally to deceive people. Religion is not an explanation but a belief in some deity that doesn't exist. And, it is not like science. |
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you cannot be among the first people to colonize a new planet, and still expect to compete with Methuselah.
I also recommend selecting only geniuses . . . as in individuals with IQs of above 130 these are considerably easier to satisfy. One only needs to provide a means of knowledge acquisition. Besides, they will be far more innovative than average intellects.
I guess . . .