₦airaland Forum

madridguy:
APC should allow peace to reign for the betterment of common man.

power hungry and power drunk men so sad they are willing to sacrifice peoples human rights for their ambition.

frisky2good:
Although I have not been able to confirm if the passport being circulated online by that website that is now practically synonymous with blackmail is genuine, I will base my argument on the assumption that "IF IT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE". My reason is simple: If it is found to be false, No case. It is only if the passport is confirmed to be genuine that we need to waste time deliberating on what the constitution says about the matter.

Now, what makes an individual a bonafide citizen of this country?
According to the constitution (section 25),

25. (1) The following persons are citizens of Nigeria by birth-namely-

(a) every person born in Nigeria before the date of independence, either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents belongs or belonged to a community indigenous to Nigeria;

Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Nigeria by virtue of this section if neither of his parents nor any of his grandparents was born in Nigeria.

(b) every person born in Nigeria after the date of independence either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents is a citizen of Nigeria; and

(c) every person born outside Nigeria either of whose parents is a citizen of Nigeria.

There are other criteria but let me stop here. Now, I do not know where Bukky was born but I know his parents were born here in Nigeria so he's a Nigerian ...........right?


Ok, let's continue.

What makes a man with a British passport become a Non-Nigerian? The constitution has the answer.

28. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, a person shall forfeit forthwith his Nigerian citizenship if, not being a citizen of Nigeria by birth, he acquires or retains the citizenship or nationality of a country, other than Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth.

Please read this sentence very well because in this case if Bukky was either born in Nigeria or Uk, this section does not nullify his Nigerian citizenship.

Having established that Mr. Saraki is a bonafide Nigerian citizen, let's go to chapter IV (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY)

Qualifications for Membership of National Assembly and Right of Attendance

65

(1) Subject to the provisions of section 66 of this Constitution, a person shall be qualified for election as a member of:

(a) the Senate, if he is a citizen of Nigeria and has attained the age of 35 years

And what (concerning citizenship) disqualifies an individual?

66

[b](1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:

(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country; [/b]

Since we have established that Saraki is a Nigerian citizen by virtue of his satisfying the provisions of section 28 of the constitution of the Federal republic of Nigeria, I conclude based on the facts available that Saraki is qualified for the position of Senate president.

Not so fast sir. He is a citizen of Nigeria but he is not qualified to be a member of the National Assembly. See italics.

huangcheng:
Please who has seen Buhari's certificate?

Continue searching for it...

If a certificate-less mallam is President of Nigeria, a Briton can also be Senate President. Afterall Buhari isn't Nigerian, is he??

frisky2good:
Although I have not been able to confirm if the passport being circulated online by that website that is now practically synonymous with blackmail is genuine, I will base my argument on the assumption that "IF IT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE". My reason is simple: If it is found to be false, No case. It is only if the passport is confirmed to be genuine that we need to waste time deliberating on what the constitution says about the matter.

Now, what makes an individual a bonafide citizen of this country?
According to the constitution (section 25),

25. (1) The following persons are citizens of Nigeria by birth-namely-

(a) every person born in Nigeria before the date of independence, either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents belongs or belonged to a community indigenous to Nigeria;

Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Nigeria by virtue of this section if neither of his parents nor any of his grandparents was born in Nigeria.

(b) every person born in Nigeria after the date of independence either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents is a citizen of Nigeria; and

(c) every person born outside Nigeria either of whose parents is a citizen of Nigeria.

There are other criteria but let me stop here. Now, I do not know where Bukky was born but I know his parents were born here in Nigeria so he's a Nigerian ...........right?


Ok, let's continue.

What makes a man with a British passport become a Non-Nigerian? The constitution has the answer.

28. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, a person shall forfeit forthwith his Nigerian citizenship if, not being a citizen of Nigeria by birth, he acquires or retains the citizenship or nationality of a country, other than Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth.

Please read this sentence very well because in this case if Bukky was either born in Nigeria or Uk, this section does not nullify his Nigerian citizenship.

Having established that Mr. Saraki is a bonafide Nigerian citizen, let's go to chapter IV (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY)

Qualifications for Membership of National Assembly and Right of Attendance

65

(1) Subject to the provisions of section 66 of this Constitution, a person shall be qualified for election as a member of:

(a) the Senate, if he is a citizen of Nigeria and has attained the age of 35 years

And what (concerning citizenship) disqualifies an individual?

66

(1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:

(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

Since we have established that Saraki is a Nigerian citizen by virtue of his satisfying the provisions of section 28 of the constitution of the Federal republic of Nigeria, I conclude based on the facts available that Saraki is qualified for the position of Senate president.

There is no saga.
Saraki is Nigerian.
End of story.

vigasimple:
Thank you for that observation.

When you start to make excuses and deviate from the provision of constitutional requirements when it suits you then you cannot complain when others use the same medium.

Saraki was given the APC structures in Kwara state having spent the last 16years with PDP and simply because he has won the Senate Presidency seat, now he is a foreigner.

Even with British Passport, it's okay for him to be SP. At least he is more of a leader than a Dullardhino.

BTW, Saraki was born in the UK , so he acquired citizen by birth. He has no say in him becoming a citizen.

True talk my brother.

frisky2good:
And what (concerning citizenship) disqualifies an individual?

66

(1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:

(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

Since we have established that Saraki is a Nigerian citizen by virtue of his satisfying the provisions of section 28 of the constitution of the Federal republic of Nigeria, I conclude based on the facts available that Saraki is qualified for the position of Senate president.

This part should be of interest unless you guys know something i don't know.... how did Mr Saraki acquire his British passport? was it by birth (possible) or through either of his parents(unlikely)? if neither of the above then questions should be asked.

Keneking:
Tinubu oooooooooooooo

wow!

To be honest with you...APC is just filled with bunch of useless and idiotic people. cant they just throw in towel instead of fooling themselves...this is the mess we found our selves in courtesy of the sophisticated ones.....


mtchewwww

alapamesan:
bukola is untouhable, if you know how many islamic cleric that spend their time day and night to back him up spiritually

So that makes him invisible? If his intentions for Nigerians is good and action good the prayers shall benefit him but if it's to loot and cheat the opposite sha come to pass hoops you remember Abachas case and his own huge number of all religious clerics praying for him day and night.

So that makes him invisible? If his intentions for Nigerians is good and action good the prayers shall benefit him but if it's to loot and cheat, the opposite shall come to pass hope you remember Abachas case and his huge number of all religious clerics praying for him day and night.

barnaby04:
The rise and fall of Sen. Bukola Saraki, he bite more than he chew, let's see how he wriggle himself out of this legal wahala!

why do you call it 'rise and fall'?
They are making him, Saraki more famous and powerful at the sight of the average Nigeria... Saraki might be a stone or wave in a valley that will trigger the avalanche of wreck on APC if the party try to mar his good actions.
Saraki is gradually becoming the goodie to the average Nigeria....
APC, Saraki and Dogara are bones on your throat, do you want to let it out for the masses to see?
hahaha

Let's see how it goes

Keneking:
Abubakar Saraki is going down as Senate President with this heavy breeze from National politics of APC.

Hundreds of Tinubus can't bring Saraki down

GOD ALONE WE PUNISH OUR POLITICIAN.

Superman11:
power hungry and power drunk men so sad they are willing to sacrifice peoples human rights for their ambition.

People keep asking stewpid questions like, why bring it up now. So stealing is justifiable as long as u dont get cought for a long time shey? Because no one was able to find this skeleton befor now should make us turn a blind eye on saraki abi?
What happens to trying to find out if this is true or false, remember the Buhari certificate saga, half of nigeria wanted proof forgetting this same individual had contested for 3 consecutive elections previously, this is what happens when u come out in public to fight for a position, people will google you (ask that Toronto senator what happend to him when he came out to contest for a positon in the nass. If saraki has dual citizenship, then he shouldnt be making laws for nigeria, he should read the nigerian constitution again

Everything Tinubu, Tinubu, Tinubu and the Man keeps the Ignore the Idiots by maintaining his Golden Silence.

David Mark has a Belizean passport
Bola Tinubu has a US passport
Chris Ngige has a US passport
Bukola Saraki has a British passport
Musiliu Obanikoro has a US passport
Donald Duke has a US passport
Agbonyinma, new House of Rep Edo state, US citizen
James Ibori, almost got British citizenship
Akinwunmi.Abode had a green card

COUNTLESS MORE I CAN'T VERIFY FULLY NOW, SO LET'S SEE HOW THIS WILL FLY.


George Weah has French passport, but ran for president
Jean Wycliffe has US passport, ran for Haiti presidency

Foreign kpali, kini big deal?

I am not Saraki's fan, but I must state that the argument on his citizenship is too petty. Whoever started it is lame. I trashed it upon arrival.

There are other more important issues to address: ex-governor currently serving at NASS will be robbing the country if they collect pensions in their respective states, alongside senator's salaries and allowances. This is what I call daylight robbery.

We need to have the Senate leadership address this matter immediately. There is no time to waste. People should face the reality of Saraki's leadership, and work with him.

Aggrieved parties should return to the drawing board to regroup and restrategize against him. Simple.

Please read section 28 which is quoted in ur italicised section.

NovusHomo:
Not so fast sir. He is a citizen of Nigeria but he is not qualified to be a member of the National Assembly. See italics.

tinuolababy:
People should please leave Tinubu alone.

PLS GIVE ME JUST ONE REASON WHY HE SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE.I

frisky2good:
Although I have not been able to confirm if the passport being circulated online by that website that is now practically synonymous with blackmail is genuine, I will base my argument on the assumption that "IF IT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE". My reason is simple: If it is found to be false, No case. It is only if the passport is confirmed to be genuine that we need to waste time deliberating on what the constitution says about the matter.

Now, what makes an individual a bonafide citizen of this country?
According to the constitution (section 25),

25. (1) The following persons are citizens of Nigeria by birth-namely-

(a) every person born in Nigeria before the date of independence, either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents belongs or belonged to a community indigenous to Nigeria;

Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Nigeria by virtue of this section if neither of his parents nor any of his grandparents was born in Nigeria.

(b) every person born in Nigeria after the date of independence either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents is a citizen of Nigeria; and

(c) every person born outside Nigeria either of whose parents is a citizen of Nigeria.

There are other criteria but let me stop here. Now, I do not know where Bukky was born but I know his parents were born here in Nigeria so he's a Nigerian ...........right?


Ok, let's continue.

What makes a man with a British passport become a Non-Nigerian? The constitution has the answer.

28. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, a person shall forfeit forthwith his Nigerian citizenship if, not being a citizen of Nigeria by birth, he acquires or retains the citizenship or nationality of a country, other than Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth.

Please read this sentence very well because in this case if Bukky was either born in Nigeria or Uk, this section does not nullify his Nigerian citizenship.

Having established that Mr. Saraki is a bonafide Nigerian citizen, let's go to chapter IV (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY)

Qualifications for Membership of National Assembly and Right of Attendance

65

(1) Subject to the provisions of section 66 of this Constitution, a person shall be qualified for election as a member of:

(a) the Senate, if he is a citizen of Nigeria and has attained the age of 35 years

And what (concerning citizenship) disqualifies an individual?

66

(1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:

(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

Since we have established that Saraki is a Nigerian citizen by virtue of his satisfying the provisions of section 28 of the constitution of the Federal republic of Nigeria, I conclude based on the facts available that Saraki is qualified for the position of Senate president.

and Lame argument.

...and after all these, A Learned Fellow ignored the police petition and past criminal charges against the criminal Senate President.

We deserve the type of leaders we have,

huangcheng:
Please who has seen Buhari's certificate?

God bless you

frisky2good:
Although I have not been able to confirm if the passport being circulated online by that website that is now practically synonymous with blackmail is genuine, I will base my argument on the assumption that "IF IT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE". My reason is simple: If it is found to be false, No case. It is only if the passport is confirmed to be genuine that we need to waste time deliberating on what the constitution says about the matter.

Now, what makes an individual a bonafide citizen of this country?
According to the constitution (section 25),

25. (1) The following persons are citizens of Nigeria by birth-namely-

(a) every person born in Nigeria before the date of independence, either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents belongs or belonged to a community indigenous to Nigeria;

Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Nigeria by virtue of this section if neither of his parents nor any of his grandparents was born in Nigeria.

(b) every person born in Nigeria after the date of independence either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents is a citizen of Nigeria; and

(c) every person born outside Nigeria either of whose parents is a citizen of Nigeria.

There are other criteria but let me stop here. Now, I do not know where Bukky was born but I know his parents were born here in Nigeria so he's a Nigerian ...........right?


Ok, let's continue.

What makes a man with a British passport become a Non-Nigerian? The constitution has the answer.

28. (1) Subject to the other provisions of this section, a person shall forfeit forthwith his Nigerian citizenship if, not being a citizen of Nigeria by birth, he acquires or retains the citizenship or nationality of a country, other than Nigeria, of which he is not a citizen by birth.

Please read this sentence very well because in this case if Bukky was either born in Nigeria or Uk, this section does not nullify his Nigerian citizenship.

Having established that Mr. Saraki is a bonafide Nigerian citizen, let's go to chapter IV (NATIONAL ASSEMBLY)

Qualifications for Membership of National Assembly and Right of Attendance

65

(1) Subject to the provisions of section 66 of this Constitution, a person shall be qualified for election as a member of:

(a) the Senate, if he is a citizen of Nigeria and has attained the age of 35 years

And what (concerning citizenship) disqualifies an individual?

66

[b](1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:

(a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

[/b]Since we have established that Saraki is a Nigerian citizen by virtue of his satisfying the provisions of section 28 of the constitution of the Federal republic of Nigeria, I conclude based on the facts available that Saraki is qualified for the position of Senate president.

The op does not understand the limits of his subjective interpretation of our constitution. So, as Antonion Scalia espoused, let the op use the literary interpretation rule and tell us what this means:
[b](1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:

[i] (a) subject to the provisions of section 28 of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country;

[/b]

Icon4s:
U still have nt read the write up.

I did read the write up and I'm in totally agreement with the writer and I am priviledged and smart enough to realise it is an effort in futility by the Tinubu gang to rouse undue interest in a futile discuss.

Do you now understand the purpose of my first statement now?

It is okay if you dont understand the train of thoughts but then pause a bit and reread the conversation before casting aspersions.

I await your apology.

I have laid down my argument, let us hear your own. No need to insult me.

apolonius:
The op does not understand the limits of his subjective interpretation of our constitution. So, as Antonion Scalia espoused, let the op use the literary interpretation rule and tell us what this means:
[b](1) No person shall be qualified for election to the Senate or the House of Representatives if:

[i] (a) [b][/b]subject to the provisions of section 28[b] of this Constitution, he has voluntarily acquired the citizenship of a country other than Nigeria or, except in such cases as may be prescribed by the National Assembly, has made a declaration of allegiance to such a country; [/b]

[/b]

tswitch:
I did read the write up and I'm in totally agreement with the writer and I am priviledged and smart enough to realise it is an effort in futility by the Tinubu gang to rouse undue interest in a futile discuss.

Do you now understand the purpose of my first statement now?

It is okay if you dont understand the train of thoughts but then pause a bit and reread the conversation before casting aspersions.

I await your apology.

Thank God u have finally read the write up.

Ephemmm:
The writer was in the same school of though with you, and you were still barking like a Bingo, newly released from its cage. Can't you see how people has been bastardizing your post? I am sure you are ashamed of yourself now. Argument is about logic enveloped with reasonable premises.

It is obvious you managed to pass your summary and comprehension in school with your 'Aba made certificate'

You are still making a dolt of yourself in your depressed state.
Next time get a simplified version of english for dummies so you better understand your superiors post.
Still waiting for a smart retort from you but it is obvious we wont see any......

[quote author=haqueurate post=35289628]People keep asking stewpid questions like, why bring it up now. So stealing is justifiable as long as u dont get cought for a long time shey? Because no one was able to find this skeleton befor now should make us turn a blind eye on saraki abi?
What happens to trying to find out if this is true or false, remember the Buhari certificate saga, half of nigeria wanted proof forgetting this same individual had contested for 3 consecutive elections previously, this is what happens when u come out in public to fight for a position, people will google you (ask that Toronto senator what happend to him when he came out to contest for a positon in the nass. If saraki has dual citizenship, then he shouldnt be making laws for nigeria, he should read the nigerian constitution again[/quot
All this is because Saraki defied Tinubu/apc's directive and so he has becomes a black sheep. It's a pity how we equate justice with sentiment. Remember children are watching too.

aare07:
Saraki is a guru when it comes to political calculus, while Tinubu is a guru when it comes arithmetic.
Therefore, 51 Tinubus( That is, APC senators) is equal to 1 Saraki( Senate President).


Abubakar Bukola Saraki, keep standing on the Political rock of gilbrater .

saraki and his father are politicians with local status and nothing more; Tinubu moves in a geometrical proportion in terms of politics while saraki and his dad are learners playing politics at kindergarten level. Let watch as politricks unfolds as people praised Jonathan more than they are praising saraki now that it got into his head but alas he got wiped badly by Tinubu who have achieved what bukola saraki's dad couldn't achieve all his life, Tinubu is the future saraki is praying for. My conclusion is that Tinubu is living in the future the entire saraki's can never live. 4 years is s long time and I hope many people will not call for Tinubu' d head by the time he is done with saraki.