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Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Nobody: 7:17pm On Jul 08, 2015
That's a whole lotta money. A proper open investigation should be carried out and anyone found wanting should face the music. Ngo babe is neither too pretty to enter jail.

Since mama peace has prophesied taking food to GEJ in jail all well and good.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by bigerboy200: 7:20pm On Jul 08, 2015
Jetjacky:
And where would I bring it to? Your house? undecided
what is a TANoid?
A TANOID is a person whose common sense of reasoning has bin lost to sentiments.. A Tanoid is also a pesin who hates good and cautious governance..A Tanoid is a person who loves corruption as a way of life..A Tanoid is a person who thinks stealing is not corruption. finally, a Tanoid is a pesin who can't take electoral shocking defeat in good fate,they keep wailing,whining and barking with so much energy yet they remain powerless and hopeless...
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by philips70(m): 7:24pm On Jul 08, 2015
barcanista:
Which trouble? There is no trouble anywhere my brother. And it wasn't "extra"
Na all this one I wan take buy you beer so? I wish they can impeach a former president, Jonathan just committed an impeachable offence. That man, Diezani and okonjo-Iweala just take better cutlass divide our money chop anyhow. Ijaw man is a very good friend and caring brother but for money side their generosity can fall Bill Gates. walahi, if we were in China, Indonesia and Malaysia na beg we all for dey beg to convert their sentence to life by now.


PS: This is just the reason Mama Peace was very vigorous during the campaigns and always saying she doesn't want to be taking food to the husband in Kirikiri. She's just lucky Buhari has a kind of esprit de corps respect for her husband.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by otokx(m): 7:27pm On Jul 08, 2015
She will soon say God is my witness.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by tess1(m): 7:28pm On Jul 08, 2015
i can`t just understand how some people are defending the indefensible.

The money belongs to three parties - Federal Government, State Government and Local Government.

How then is it right for GEJ to unilaterally order Minister of Finance to withdraw part of the money without the consent of the other parties (State and Local Govt)?

Where then is due process?

Can the President of the World Bank where she came from unilaterally order the release of money without the approval of the Board of Governors? NO.

Why then did she withdraw the money without advising the President on following due process?

The legality of the account is a different thing entirely because the state governments have been dragging the Federal govt to the Supreme Court over the illegality of the account since about three years or thereabout now. This simply shows that it is the Federal Government that is condoning illegality. On top of this, they are proposing to add another one in the name of Sovereign Wealth Fund.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by omooba969(m): 7:38pm On Jul 08, 2015
oloriooko:
But PMB ordered the release of 400 billion for defaulting govs, who approved it senate or FEC?
PMB please remember we voted for change not continuity of corrupt practices cuz this singular action is tantamount to corruption chikena!

God bless Nigeria, God bless PMB
Reference ur claim pls, then u will be taken serious. cool
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Time2Smile(m): 7:39pm On Jul 08, 2015
Someone please tell me this woman is joking. I can't believe it, She must be kidding me. A supposed Internationally acclaimed economist coming out to say this garbage. What happened to due process? Release Two billion dollars just like that? Madam please, Just release another statement that you were joking.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by nickxtra(m): 7:41pm On Jul 08, 2015
Gov. Oshiomhole vindicated
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by kuroben4real: 7:47pm On Jul 08, 2015
BabaO2:
so jonathan can singlehandedly instruct okonjo iweala to transfer 60% money in ECA to his personal overseas account and 10% to Madams's account as tip for good job done without FAAC approval..This is dead penalty offence in china. No wonder jonathan left country for overseas immediately he was ousted to properly keep track of all the transfers made on his behalf.
i can smell lies in the air
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Rotimi47: 7:48pm On Jul 08, 2015
PDP can steal and also lie! If 2 billion dollars were used to pay for fuel subsidy there will be duly acknowledged documents to show that money was actually paid to the marketers, she is only been economical with the truth. The money have been shared but if not let the documents used to pay those they paid be tendered if they didn't file them.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by theassassin: 7:49pm On Jul 08, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
I've not seen Bärcanista this confused. saTANoids are in confusion. Anonìni is dumbfounded. Theassassin can't show his foolery. Altwireles has gone underground.
Don't let me say otu nne i you know say me like you somehow but no vex me angry
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Nobody: 7:54pm On Jul 08, 2015
Jetjacky:
But y e b say you no dey like engage for this kind dialogue??
I know How the system works... grin
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by omooba969(m): 7:55pm On Jul 08, 2015
seunayantokun:
Investigation first. Until that is done Okonjo remains a saint.
Even though itz clear to u dat she's got mouth diarrhoea. cheesy
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by omooba969(m): 8:10pm On Jul 08, 2015
barcanista:
Thanks you! NOI never at any time said the quoted $2billion was "shared". She has been very consistent that the money was used for subsidy payment. Is this the first time she's making such claim? No...She said same in December and January. Oshiomole is just being mischievous. God sparing our lives I shall discuss this issue at length.
U r so funny! cheesy
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by chigoizie7(m): 8:15pm On Jul 08, 2015
Panshow:
It's not the matter of whether GEJ told you to use the money or not. Has it been documented? If it were documented I'm sure we'll not be here talking about it cos it would've been on record.
Now the question is how did GEJ ordered you to use the money? Via text, hand written letter? Phone call? Verbal Communication? Or which means?
If na verbal,












Laffing in swahili for NGOO ooh,







Kikikikikikikikikikikikikikiki
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jul 08, 2015
Where are the TANoid you will never see them here, this kind of story is a taboo on their side. Group of people who doesn't want to relate with truth. GEJ is a scam believe it or not, if you believe in GEJ you can believe devil.

You can can be happy again if you disown that fraudulent party pdp, or you continue gnashing of teeth for the next four years.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by junkyarddog: 8:35pm On Jul 08, 2015
Obasanjo dropped the Okonjo iweala because she was a thief he only used her to get Debt written of for the Nation immediately after that he shuffled cabinet and ousted her out then along came a Fedora wearing fool called Goodluck Ebele Jonathan who went to beg her to beg and also sent several emissaries and when she agreed the clueless man had to make a nation wide address on State TV that she has agreed .Now we see how she has stolen so much money after being paid in Dollars
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by junkyarddog: 8:35pm On Jul 08, 2015
Obasanjo dropped the Okonjo iweala because she was a thief he only used her to get Debt written off for the Nation immediately after that he shuffled cabinet and ousted her out then along came a Fedora wearing fool called Goodluck Ebele Jonathan who went to beg her to beg and also sent several emissaries and when she agreed the clueless man had to make a nation wide address on State TV that she has agreed .Now we see how she has stolen so much money after being paid in Dollars
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by guardsman: 8:36pm On Jul 08, 2015
hamilton62:
when does this power start lying solely on the NEC, who is the president to NEC?
Isn't the president also the president of the NEC?
He is the ancor, on whom if his objectives are best for the masses and the NEC repair should he watch them so that their selfish way work out on a country he pilots the normal way the get their bargains because the account is unconstitutional?
Why didn't anyone cry such on OBJ when such was also in place?
Will you tell baba to fold hands and watch the NEC or any government tier redirect or hold at ransom the country under his navigation?
He has a supreme power as a result of his office to do this because it is his responsibility since the house has no hand in this for a hearing....
d authorizing power has ALWAYS been d NEC. d money belongs not to d president to disbursed at his discretion but to d 36 state govts & d Fed Govt. Not only in dis case but in all financial aspects, d President's powers ar not absolute.
Ar u saying being President gives one d powers to make illegal & unconstitutional withdrawals from d excess crude account?.
U may as well say it's okay 4 d President to make extra-budgetary spendings, an act which is an impeachable offence.
Guy, there's nothing to argue here. Nigeria is not a jungle. We hav laws. d President can not go behind d NEC to connive wit d finance minister to withdraw monies illegally. It's a crime.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by abouzaid: 8:50pm On Jul 08, 2015
guardsman:
d authorizing power has ALWAYS been d NEC. d money belongs not to d president to disbursed at his discretion but to d 36 state govts & d Fed Govt. Not only in dis case but in all financial aspects, d President's powers ar not absolute.
Ar u saying being President gives one d powers to make illegal & unconstitutional withdrawals from d excess crude account?.
U may as well say it's okay 4 d President to make extra-budgetary spendings, an act which is an impeachable offence.
Guy, there's nothing to argue here. Nigeria is not a jungle. We hav laws. d President can not go behind d NEC to connive wit d finance minister to withdraw monies illegally. It's a crime.
taken literally, buhari should be impeached for authorizing the transfer of so many funds with a federal cabinet. until she is fairly indicted and convicted by a court, she remains a saint, that's Nigerian law for u.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by DropShot: 9:02pm On Jul 08, 2015
barcanista:
what are yu guys crying for? The Federal Executive Council led by Jonathan approved madam NOI to withdraw the $2billion to effect subsidy payment from the ECA. What is the problem here? Did she pay the marketers or not? Why are you guys making noise when there is nothing to talk of? Is it today that the former Minister informed Nigerians? Were you guys asleep in December and January when she and her team informed FAAC and the country? Did she pocket the money?
Lame and dumb. Try harder boy. No money may be taken out of that account without the approval of the joint owners. Your brain don die?
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by aristosoft(m): 9:03pm On Jul 08, 2015
For a person with depth, some underground probing and/or auditing is on. These people have so battered the books that even the blind will see it.

Ngo-baby, as Dr Damages do say, is just trying to play smart. Everything will be revealed.

No animal should call this witch-hunting....it's simply true confession. No further stories, just return the money.

The court would know what to do.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by hamilton62(m): 9:04pm On Jul 08, 2015
guardsman:
d authorizing power has ALWAYS been d NEC. d money belongs not to d president to disbursed at his discretion but to d 36 state govts & d Fed Govt. Not only in dis case but in all financial aspects, d President's powers ar not absolute.
Ar u saying being President gives one d powers to make illegal & unconstitutional withdrawals from d excess crude account?.
U may as well say it's okay 4 d President to make extra-budgetary spendings, an act which is an impeachable offence.
Guy, there's nothing to argue here. Nigeria is not a jungle. We hav laws. d President can not go behind d NEC to connive wit d finance minister to withdraw monies illegally. It's a crime.
the share of the ECA was it of benefit to the masses? what and what were the used for if you answer is a yes?
the problem is that you don't understand the mindset of the NEC and is the ECA constitutional?
Free yourself and let the truth surface...
Why do you think Saraki and Dogara are pained about the unconstitutional ways APC are trying to make things against the best for the masses thereby causing repetition of PDP but just rebranded APC...
The NEC must always have the day so he needs to man up because he is the president of the country and not the NEC only... If truly, this was true as said by NOI and you say it is not justified, where then do you expect the money of subsidy to come from and at whose expense if not the citizens?
Wouldn't you have rain more curses on him and not the NEC for scarcity?
Please let us be rational here... you just don't rule a straight line against a reading and you call it rule of law... his principal objectives are Nigerians and Nigeria which they NEC care less...
What was done with the EC revenue given to them even with NOI advise for savings because raining days approaches?
If these people refuse heeding these advice don't you think it calls for a rethink as a president?
Since the Legislators are not part of this, He is the premier of the executive and has the power on his office to do so for the best interest of his people .
So because the NEC are part of the whole should the citizens suffer at their mercy?
It is wickedness to the NEC because it was presented and didn't take them on surprise called first hearing...
the NEC are wicked and selfish, so i vehemently support it...
As for the extra budgetary spending it is the duty of the legislators and backed by constitution... which constitution backs that of ECA this is why they always hold the FED and the citizens at ransom but concur only on their selfish interest and desires...
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by DropShot: 9:06pm On Jul 08, 2015
Jetjacky:
And you would have cried further for fuel scarcity had something not been done. Except you're outside the country
Subsidy money was already made allowance for in the budget. It was never meant to be paid from ECA.

Ngozi and GEJ are criminals. Pure snd simple.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Johnsinia(m): 9:13pm On Jul 08, 2015
Hassan080196:
Truth is now coming out....to pay fuel subsidy? And yet,Nigerians didn't perceive any changes.
A product of lies and propangadas
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by joseph1832(m): 9:16pm On Jul 08, 2015
bettercreature:
You are selling your future,go and read my old post because i have been criticizing PMB,you dont have to be APC or PDP before you realise this is totally wrong
Which future? Our future is already sold until we do away with this present crop of politicians.

And please tell me, in the absence of a finance minister, who is suppose to disburse the funds? The perm secretary?.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by stevecantrell: 9:19pm On Jul 08, 2015
dustmalik:
This is the kind of thread that the saTANoids avoid.
This is like Hammer House of Horror for them.

NOI forgot that once you tell a lie you will need to keep lying to cover the initial lie. Now the truth is finally coming out, gradually.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by hamilton62(m): 9:20pm On Jul 08, 2015
DropShot:
Subsidy money was already made allowance for in the budget. It was never meant to be paid from ECA.

Ngozi and GEJ are criminals. Pure snd simple.
Where is the money from the subsidy gotten from?
crude sales
was the money already at hand?
No, it was planned with the greenback of crude price which will be generated in due course.
So won't the budget be affected with the drastic drop of crude more than 50%?
yes it will and there must be a source to replenish which must also come from the crude instead of the continual sharing of all the ECA revenue...
Lets reason pls!
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by 989900: 9:31pm On Jul 08, 2015
hamilton62:
Where is the money from the subsidy gotten from?
crude sales
was the money already at hand?
No, it was planned with the greenback of crude price which will be generated in due course.
So won't the budget be affected with the drastic drop of crude more than 50%?
yes it will and there must be a source to replenish which must also come from the crude instead of the continual sharing of all the ECA revenue...
Lets reason pls!
'Reasoning' further, since we'r still talking about the same base material/commodity here (oil), don't you think the amount of subsidy money that would be needed, would proportionally be reduced too? I mean 'reasoning' that the 'fall in oil prices' is not peculiar to Nigerian crude alone.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Pebcak: 9:31pm On Jul 08, 2015
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by aresa:
Maxymilliano:
Jonathan couldn't have ordered withdrawal of such humongous amount verbally without any documentation or recourse to statutory provisions ...


Except I'm missing something in her riposte .
....but this woman is openly claiming she did what she did based on Jonathan's order. She's basically washing off her hands and throwing everything on Jona's lap...

....but of course we know this woman is not really really dumb because she was part of the scheme and she knew exactly what she was doing and who and who benefited from the scam..

Now she's fessing up after so many lies, denials and deceptions..
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by 989900: 9:37pm On Jul 08, 2015
When are the refineries gon' start working?!!!!
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