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Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal - Politics (12) - Nairaland

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Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by flofields(f): 9:44pm On Jul 08, 2015
It is most astonishing that a country's chief finance officer can spend $2 billion without authorisation!

Even accounts' clerk knows that it is unlawful to pay any money without authorisation!

How did this woman get work at the World Bank?

We now know the calibre of fraudsters enabling GEJ in bankrupting Nigeria
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by hamilton62(m): 9:53pm On Jul 08, 2015
989900:
'Reasoning' further, since we'r still talking about the same base material/commodity here (oil), don't you think the amount of subsidy money that would be needed, would proportionally be reduced too? I mean 'reasoning' that the 'fall in oil prices' is not peculiar to Nigerian crude alone.
Yes, every administration will like to budget less for subsidy brother but the have the Nigetia to consider and source for a way to do it while pampering the average citizen....
do you know that further reduction on the subsidy means further hike on pump price? so they will consider that too...
To me, i think this present administration should source for more revenue for subsidy from the ECA because most of the NEC if not 90 percent misuse it.... at least you can bear witness with the released figures for past 4years
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jul 08, 2015
Excellent!
Madam ex-Minister, so hw much of d so-called "subsidy payment" truly got 2 Nigerians?
Okay, d subsidy issue was discussed @ FAAC, was d withdrawal also discussed & and approved by & @ FAAC?
Since ex-President Jonathan "ordered" d withdrawal without following due process, pls ask him 2 "order" for its return back into our collective 'asusu' b4 #PMB opens his eyes.
ThankUmadam
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by 989900: 10:01pm On Jul 08, 2015
hamilton62:
Yes, every administration will like to budget less for subsidy brother but the have the Nigetia to consider and source for a way to do it while pampering the average citizen....
[s]do you know that further reduction on the subsidy means further hike on pump price?[/s] so they will consider that too...
To me, i think this present administration should source for more revenue for subsidy from the ECA because most of the NEC if not 90 percent misuse it.... at least you can bear witness with the released figures for past 4years
No, fall in cost price should = fall in selling price = fall in subsidy amount needed.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by guardsman: 10:15pm On Jul 08, 2015
abouzaid:
taken literally, buhari should be impeached for authorizing the transfer of so many funds with a federal cabinet. until she is fairly indicted and convicted by a court, she remains a saint, that's Nigerian law for u.
Buhari did not disburse monies frm d ECA. If he wanted to, he would hav had to do that wit d knowledge of d national executive council.
Hopefully Iweala will hav her day in court 4 spending monies frm d ECA without authorization frm d fit & proper authority.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by hamilton62(m): 10:41pm On Jul 08, 2015
989900:
No, fall in cost price should = fall in selling price = fall in subsidy amount needed.
That is a miscalculation brother...
Just because a raw material is cheap doesn't mean the cost if manufacturing or refining with other logistics are also cheap....
ask yourself what caused the fall in price if not supply greater than demand...
Since the end product is at high need more than the raw crude don't you think it will favour the refined crude where the final consumers are paying for everything?
i buy cheap from Nigeria because the raw crude supply was vast due to supply and the Westerners; America, Germany etc are reducing their dependence on fossil fuels but their are limited end product for supply so won't the pressure still be on distilled product?
Remember raw material can be cheap but demand is the last determinant
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by guardsman: 10:56pm On Jul 08, 2015
hamilton62:
the share of the ECA was it of benefit to the masses? what and what were the used for if you answer is a yes?
the problem is that you don't understand the mindset of the NEC and is the ECA constitutional?
Free yourself and let the truth surface...
Why do you think Saraki and Dogara are pained about the unconstitutional ways APC are trying to make things against the best for the masses thereby causing repetition of PDP but just rebranded APC...
The NEC must always have the day so he needs to man up because he is the president of the country and not the NEC only... If truly, this was true as said by NOI and you say it is not justified, where then do you expect the money of subsidy to come from and at whose expense if not the citizens?
Wouldn't you have rain more curses on him and not the NEC for scarcity?
Please let us be rational here... you just don't rule a straight line against a reading and you call it rule of law... his principal objectives are Nigerians and Nigeria which they NEC care less...
What was done with the EC revenue given to them even with NOI advise for savings because raining days approaches?
If these people refuse heeding these advice don't you think it calls for a rethink as a president?
Since the Legislators are not part of this, He is the premier of the executive and has the power on his office to do so for the best interest of his people .
So because the NEC are part of the whole should the citizens suffer at their mercy?
It is wickedness to the NEC because it was presented and didn't take them on surprise called first hearing...
the NEC are wicked and selfish, so i vehemently support it...
As for the extra budgetary spending it is the duty of the legislators and backed by constitution... which constitution backs that of ECA this is why they always hold the FED and the citizens at ransom but concur only on their selfish interest and desires...
[b]We do not know 4 sure if d illegal withdrawals benefited d masses or not but going by GEJ govts antecedents of favouring d cabal of subsidy barons & govt sponsors, i would say it probably didn't. 
Ahmadu Ali, fmr PDP chairman & GEJ's campaign director was found culpable 4 d subsidy bill ballooning frm N421.5b in 2009 when he became chairman of PPPRA to 2.19 trillion in 2011 when he single-handedly increased d number of importers frm 49 to 140 to accommodate PDP fronts, cronies & sponsors. One of those arraigned by EFCC in d subsidy scam was his son, Mamman Nasir Ali who runs Nasaman Oil Services. Another is Mahmud Tukur, who runs Eterna Oil and Gas Plc & is d son of Alhaji Bamanga Tukur, former PDP chairman.
We ar not in a Dictatorship where one man decides what is & is not in d best interest of nigeria. d President's powers ar not absolute. d money belongs to d federal govt & d 36 states & d NEC IS D AUTHORIZING POWER 4 ANY WITHDRAWALS. Any withdrawals in contravention of dis is illegal. QED
As for Saraki & Dogara, it is wrong to support treachery. I would never support any act of treachery & betrayal under any guise because it sends a wrong signal to all & sundry dat treachery comes wit its positive results.
[/b]
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by crystalzoe: 11:04pm On Jul 08, 2015
barcanista:
what are yu guys crying for? The Federal Executive Council led by Jonathan approved madam NOI to withdraw the $2billion to effect subsidy payment from the ECA. What is the problem here? Did she pay the marketers or not? Why are you guys making noise when there is nothing to talk of? Is it today that the former Minister informed Nigerians? Were you guys asleep in December and January when she and her team informed FAAC and the country? Did she pocket the money?
don't mind this supporters of APC. baba bubu just ordered dat 400b be shared and nobody is crying foul! I just don't understand y we use different standards n yardstick wen its buhari. its really sad
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Teekrayne(m): 11:07pm On Jul 08, 2015
Dis randu woman na oloshi
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by crystalzoe: 11:09pm On Jul 08, 2015
Excellent7:
My position is simple, if anybody is proven to have taken, stolen or "inadvertently misplaced " our funds they should be made to return same.
I heard 20, 10, 5 billion was "stolen", let the present administration find it wherever it is, as much money is needed with the plummeting oil.
prices. (NB: Personally, I doubt how such humongous amounts can be stolen)
I am tired of hearing of "missing" money, I want to hear of found money.

In another direction, I want to know who is approving the funds that are being released since over 1 month, without any FAAC and FEC ?
halleluyah! finally somebody who is thinking. who approved d 40b dat baba bubu released?
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by bigerboy200: 11:24pm On Jul 08, 2015
amacastel:
Point of correction gEJ was not kicked out he finished his tenure and hand over. Olodo
he wanted to stay..but he was KICKED out...
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by GuyfawkesAB(m): 11:24pm On Jul 08, 2015
Tydies:
Her boss ordered her to withdraw the money which she did. Where you expecting her to do otherwise? Buhari Approves 400bn Naira For Unpaid
Workers' Salaries without a finance minister and nobody is saying nothing about it.
Unreasonable Justification. It was in the news when PMB met with the Perm. SEC, Ministry of Finance and Accountant General of the Federationhuhhuh?
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by crystalzoe: 11:27pm On Jul 08, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
this isn't about being emotional. Since you are trying to prove that NOI is untouchable while others are not,then you are very wrong! She must face the law's wrath for stealing our nation blind!
oya madam baueress go and arrest her. U guys are here doing judge and jury on top NOI matter becos of freedom of information. go to Lagos and ask how dy spent their money and who approved it.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by mkoabiola: 11:28pm On Jul 08, 2015
Ds our yeye leaders av been scamming us all in d name of subsidy snc 1914
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by crystalzoe: 11:35pm On Jul 08, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
not in the case of NOI.
If you know her personally,you better tell her to bring back all the monies she looted. As for your last sentence,na you sabi o!
u sound so bitter and pained y?
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by bigerboy200: 11:38pm On Jul 08, 2015
Rotimi47:
PDP can steal and also lie! If 2 billion dollars were used to pay for fuel subsidy there will be duly acknowledged documents to show that money was actually paid to the marketers, she is only been economical with the truth. The money have been shared but if not let the documents used to pay those they paid be tendered if they didn't file them.
even with the documents,the whole process is tainted with corruption..The likes of ifeanyi Ubah (sponsor of TAN),Femi Otedola were one of d biggest beneficiaries of the subsidy mess.(don't forget stellap Oduah is an oil marketer,and u can be sure Alison Madueke might be one to)..The corrupt gang of GEJ all have direct connections to the oil marketers therefore making subsidy claims a massive conduit pipe to loot our oil money...
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by crystalzoe: 11:46pm On Jul 08, 2015
nairamaniac:
wow. I just realised that u are were once berem. for past few months iv been wondering who is this mzjackbauress that's always making sense. out of curiosity I went to your posts&topics and saw ur post that berem moniker has been deactivated. I was shocked to find out that the same berem I respected for ages became same person I'm currently impressed with. Iv been in Nairaland for several years. but seldom post except when inspired. u are one hell of an interesting, courageous & intelligent person. keep it up.
ha! berem courageous n intelligent? a beg no make laff kill me
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Ayatullah(m): 12:13am On Jul 09, 2015
JONATHAN WAS A CIVILIAN PRESIDENT!
Ngozi! How can you say you were 'ordered'? What do you mean?

If you are a responsible soul and you believe you were serving the Nigerian Populace why do you refuse to cry out to us that the president has given you a wrong directive?

What has become of all your so-called university education?

Definitely you are confirming that indeed 'BOKO' is 'HARAM'!
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by thaoriginator: 12:38am On Jul 09, 2015
Rilwayne001:
For where? Awon omo ale, won to kan lugbe grin

cc: firefire mogidi
grin
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Lolamida(m): 1:00am On Jul 09, 2015
it is disheartening to read how some people display their ignorance or stupidity. The ECA (Excess Crude Account ) is savings made from selling the crude oil beyond the approved bench mark by the senate. The money from the ECA is meant for the three tiers of govt. namely the fed, the state and local. the fed govt owns 52% while 48% is shared between state and local govt. No one has the sole authority for its usage except the National Executive Council approves. So withdrawing from the account without the consent/approval of the joint owners is wrong and it should be condemned.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by nairamaniac:
MzJackBaueress:
now you wanna make me cry. embarassed

Yes,this is the legendary berem you have always admired. Nothing has changed except my moniker. cheesy

Thanks for the admiration,you just made my day with this sweet comment of yours. Hugs and kisses to you. smiley smiley
u are welcome love. u played major role in joining us to kick out the last useless/corrupt government. Buhari should reward u directly or indirectly. I remain your number1 loyal&beloved fan. All the best of answered wishes&prayers would come your way. God bless You, Seun&Nairaland. Amen! coming back to this issue of 'Ngozi okonjo's admission'. I'm beginning to think maybe the entire Nigeria have either forgotten or were not aware of past attempt by last government to withdraw this same Money from the excess crude account. This was sometime last year, November. But back then, it was because of the sudden fall of oil prices from over $100dollers to bellow $60. Listen good. The 2015 budget was already prepared by presidency and was on its way for appropriation by the national assembly. The figure was the usual "over $4Trillion naira". as we all should know by now, the budget is usually derived based on the benchmark of crude price for the next 12months. The bench -price of crude prior to this November was around $70. but due to crash of crude-price it was hovering at around $55. Thus there was a margin of approximately $15. This meant the budget would not have been able to meet up with the 4Trillion naira anymore which had been the figure for the last 3 consecutive year. The budget would have fallen to somewhere around 2.5billion. So what the government had to do was apply to access the excess crude account. From what I new then based on their openned request, they demanded for $2billion from the $4billion. I'm surprised to now be hearing that they accessed the ECA to pay marketers. One other terrible thing the government did with the aid of CBN was to crash the naira against the dollars that same November by almost 100percent. can't u guys think how we all woke up one morning in that very November to see that naira to dollar had crashed from around 160naira/$1 to over 250naira/1$? no currency takes this kind of natural steep fall overnight. except there's some abundant commodity the country wants to export overnight. Jonathan and the last government devalued the naira over night the very day they accessed the ECA in order to get abundant naira by the time the $2billion was converted to naira. This isn't a conspiracy theory. This was what really happened. Up till this very moment, the entire country have not recovered from this devaluation. But those few wicked thieves gained from it, cause they had lots of access to the ECA that was converted to naira. Take it, or leave it, God delivered Nigeria from Jonathan.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by blackpriest0911: 2:48am On Jul 09, 2015
Where r all the saTANoidshuh
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by mojeer678: 7:18am On Jul 09, 2015
Panshow:
It's not the matter of whether GEJ told you to use the money or not. Has it been documented? If it were documented I'm sure we'll not be here talking about it cos it would've been on record.
Now the question is how did GEJ ordered you to use the money? Via text, hand written letter? Phone call? Verbal Communication? Or which means?
I won't be surprised at all if GEJ denies ever giving any order or approval for any payment.

Wasn't Ngozi even denying that she touched any money sometime ago? Now, she's stylishly confessing. Her goose is cooked.

Where are the tribalists defending their kinswoman?

Foreign thieves sucking the nation's blood from 500B.C!!
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by fxskye: 7:24am On Jul 09, 2015
dustmalik:
Hehehehe the truth is gradually coming out. Interesting days ahead.
Yes, Baba Goslow is working, PMB is working, Nigeria coming out of coma.

I prefer Baba Goslow than GEJ in more than a million time
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by softwareman(m): 8:00am On Jul 09, 2015
barcanista:
I deliberately used FEC because before any decision is made, the Executive through Mr President or members of the council will first give the go-ahead. As long as the said money was spent on subsidy then the governors should direct their demands to the FG and not officers of government. Iwaela is not finance minister personified neither is GEJ President personified. You can only cry if the said money was diverted to personal accounts of the former officials.
When stuck in a hole , stop digging.
THIS IS YOUR WORST LOGICAL FORM EVER.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Amazo: 8:52am On Jul 09, 2015
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Bongiboy83: 9:51am On Jul 09, 2015
LOL!! To pay subsidy and marketers are claiming they have not been paid!. Who is lying?
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by gobizzy101: 9:54am On Jul 09, 2015
See dis 1
barcanista:
what are yu guys crying for? The Federal Executive Council led by Jonathan approved madam NOI to withdraw the $2billion to effect subsidy payment from the ECA. What is the problem here? Did she pay the marketers or not? Why are you guys making noise when there is nothing to talk of? Is it today that the former Minister informed Nigerians? Were you guys asleep in December and January when she and her team informed FAAC and the country? Did she pocket the money?
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by johntolu: 11:36am On Jul 09, 2015
Nna, see me, see trouble o! Nor be de woman wey OBJ tell us say na from Harvard and World Bank she from come dey yan rubbish like person without any form of wisdom.

When you hear an Harvard trained Economist and a former VP of the World Bank making this type of statement, you can be sure of the fact that Madam is under immense pressure.
I am sure an average petty trader in either Balogun and Onitsha market would have handled this issue better than Madam NOI.

Thank God she was not considered for the World Bank job.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Ofeakwu(m): 1:52pm On Jul 09, 2015
Banter1:
what do you people gained from booking space? Mr. Seun I'm disappointed in you........;you need to start banning space bookers.
Bad bele!!!!, make seun try am na.
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Aaam(m): 4:55pm On Jul 09, 2015
lwkm.....i cant wait 2 hear more....especially when u mark attendance in kirikiri....shameless thief....u wey i respect b4 lost ur rep cus of corruption...all of u thieves will pay...lmao
Re: Jonathan Ordered Me To Withdraw $2bn From ECA To Pay Fuel Subsidy – Okonjo-iweal by Aaam(m): 4:55pm On Jul 09, 2015
lwkm.....i cant wait 2 hear more....especially when u mark attendance in kirikiri....shameless thief....u wey i respect b4; lost ur rep cus of corruption...all of u thieves will pay...lmao
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