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Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 6:09am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Many non-Muslims, when they think about
Islaam, picture religious fanatics on camels
with a sword in one hand and a Qur'an in the
other.
This myth, which was made popular in Europe
during the Crusades, is totally baseless.
First of all, the Noble Qur'an clearly says "Let
there be no compulsion in religion".
In addition to this, Islaam teaches that a
person's faith must be pure and sincere, so it is
certainly not something that can be forced on
someone. In debunking the myth that Islaam
was "spread by the sword", the (non-Muslim)
historian De Lacy O' Leary wrote: "History
makes it clear, however, that the legend of
fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world
and forcing Islaam at the point of the sword
upon conquered races is one of the most
fantastically absurd myths that historians have
ever accepted." (Islaam at the Crossroads,
London, 1923, p. 8.).
It should also be known that Muslims ruled
Spain for roughly 800 years. During this time,
and up to when they were finally forced out,
the non-Muslims there were alive and
flourishing. Additionally, Christian and Jewish
minorities have survived in the Muslim lands of
the Middle East for centuries. Countries such as
Egypt, Morocco, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria and
Jordan all have Christian and/or Jewish
populations. If Islaam taught that all people are
supposed to be killed or forced to become
Muslims, how did all of these non-Muslims
survive for so long in the middle of the
Islaamic Empire?
Additionally, if one considers the small number
of Muslims who initially spread Islaam from
Spain and Morocco in the West to India and
China in the East, one would realise that they
were far too few to force people to become
converts of a religion against their will.
Additionally, the great empire and civilisation
established by the Muslims had great staying
power, its citizens were proud to be part of it.
The spread of Islaam stands in contrast to the
actions of the followers of Christianity, who
since the time of the Emperor Constantine
have made liberal use of the sword - often
basing their conduct on Biblical verses. This was
especially true of the colonisation of South
America and Africa, where native peoples were
systematically wiped-out or forced to convert.
It is also interesting to note that when the
Mongols invaded and conquered large portions
of the Islaamic Empire, instead of destroying
the religion, they adopted it. This is a unique
occurrence in history - the conquerors adopting
the religion of the conquered! Since they were
the victors, they certainly could not have been
forced to become Muslims! Ask any of the over
one billion Muslims alive in the world today
whether they were forced! The largest Muslim
country in the world today is Indonesia -- and
there were never any battles fought there! So
where was the sword? How could someone be
forced to adhere to a spiritually rewarding and
demanding religion like Islam?
..........
Prepared by: Abu 'Iyaad |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Proffdada: 6:42am On Jul 12, 2015 |
No by Piss |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 10:12am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Muslims and al taqquiya mohamed himself started the spread of islam by the sword and till this day his true followersz(al queda, boko haram, isis, al shabab and hamas) continue to spread it by the sword so stop trying to rewrite history. 3 Likes |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Kyase(m): 11:50am On Jul 12, 2015 |
Yes, so was christainity 1 Like |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 12:41pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase: Liar |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Jagoon:if Islam was spread by the sword so is xtianity(which is actually true in many instances) |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Kyase(m): 1:55pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Jagoon:prove me wrong sir. Modified: the white men/evanglist held the bible with one hand the a whip with the other. And they do quote luke 12:47 to our ancestors to justify it. Between, am xtain |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase: That' not true at all, missionaries came to preach the gospel and went around doing good things to encourage people to convert. The missionary schools and hospitals are a glaring example of this unlike islam that jihad is instructed in their terror manual and it's still being spread by the sword as we speak. I don't need to remind you of how the chibok girls were forcefully converted. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 2:41pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Jagoon:He spoke the truth. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Kyase(m): 4:40pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Jagoon:i dont much about islam but i dont believe boko haram are islamic. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase: Boko haram are practising pure Islam as instructed and practised by mohamed. Every thing they do is backed by the quoran and the hadiths. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Kyase(m): 5:42pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Jagoon:do u have prove to that? Show me the exact place in the quaran that preaches what bh are doing |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Ahmed4002(m): 5:51pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Jagoon: Deuteronomy Chapter 7:1-6 So note, the God of Bible allows Moses to completly destroy cities and show NO MERCY, NO MERCY AT ALL meaning you can do whatever you want to them. Not only that, Jesus orders Moses and his army to destroy all their images and their places of worship, so much for religous tolerance among Christians. So once again we see Moses killing with NO MERCY as God ordered, we also see no tolerance of other religions, somethings which Christians rant about Islam! This proves which religion is the in-tolerant one, it is the Christian, their God is in-tolerant to other religions as you see. In contrast, compare this Quranic verse of tolerance : – “Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)” “If it had been thy Lord’s will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)” if Christians do not admit it then they can no longer argue against Islam, if they continue to use this silly argument on Islam then they must leave their own religion. So they are in a bad dilema now, attack Islam and leave Christianity or dont attack Islam and therefore have nothing much to attack Islam on. Now let me make it easier for the reader, I will basically post what the Christian God will do as a punishment to those who wouldnt follow him: 1- God will cause his people to be murdered and massacared, and they will flee in all directions. 2- People will beget children but will not be able to enjoy them because they will be sent into slavery. 3- People’s children shall be given to other people and the parents will wish they could have them back but they wont. 4- cannabilism, yes cannabilism! 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee 5- God will send diseases to the people 6- You will get married, and your wife will sleep with other men. Numbers Chapter 31:7-12 I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house. Killing Of Children And Married Women In The Bible “17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” Numbers Chapter 31:17-18 If this isnt terrorism then what is? What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase: Parisbookaddict kindly assist in supplying the relevant verses. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Ahmed4002: Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus in the new testament and not the obsolete old testament verses you are quoting. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by jcross19: 7:01pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase:you are christian but you don't believe that boko harams are islamic. In that clause I see that either confused mofo or islamic goon post trash online. In mali we know what uthman dan fordio did there even here in nigeria uthman dan fordio massacre hausa for the sake of islam. Check the history of islamic conquest of africa in google what you will find out will make you know that al-nisra, alquda, taliban,hazebollah, alshabab, isis,boko haram, al mujahedeen and many more these groups read from one book that's place get their inspiration from which is quran and they have one language, I mean one slang which is allahu akbr!!!! Still some evil will not call spade a spade shame on allah and its agent becuase they have been defeated over long time ago. 1 Like |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by jcross19: 7:13pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase:quran 2: 191-193,2:244, we have 109 verses that's violence quotations in quran against the infidels let me quote a bit from this verse q 4 vs 76 : those who believe fight in the cause of allah. 8 vs 12: I will cast terror into the heart of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their hands and strike off fingertip of them. I said we have 109 terror verses in the quran that prescribe terrorism for every muslims. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Kyase(m): 7:23pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
jcross19:ok i see. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Kyase(m): 7:26pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
jcross19:have respect to other gods bro. Ur god is the supreme so is their's. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by parisbookaddict(f): 7:53pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase: Jagoon: Kyase may i educate u the usual standard muslim response that those muslims who kill non muslims are: 1) Tiny minority 2) Misunderstaders of Islam 3) Not true muslims 4) Are zionist agents sponsored by the CIA to tarnish the image of Islam 5) They do not understand quran in 'original' arabic 6) The dont go to mosque regularly. 7) They have been radicalized They dont represent the 1.5billion muslims. 9) They are marginalized by the govt. 10) It is the fault of the victims who offend the fragile sensibilty of muslims 11) alllah know the best. And other standardized excuses that islamic apologist give anytime their foot-soldiers go on a killing spree. People often wonder why a lot of Muslim riots and protests occur after Friday prayers and why people like jihad john, Osama and other terrorists are devout mosque attending Muslims. Most moderate Muslims will use AL TAQIYYA or ignorance and quote this non-compulsion of religion verse: Qu'ran2: 256 Sahih International "There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing." But they refuse to mention the other verses which compels their terrible religion on others. Remember the quran is a book that is filled with contractions and abrogations and even commands for Muslims to lie and deceive infidels eg Kitman and al Taqiyya.. Here is a little sample of the over 100 quran verses Islamic terrorists use to justify their acts of terror as commanded by Mohammed with total disregard for the non-complusion of religion earlier stated ; Qur’an 9:29—Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Qur’an 9:28—O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. Qur’an 9:30—The Jews call Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Qur’an 9:31—They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ, the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). Qur’an 9:32—Fain would they extinguish Allah’s Light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His Light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). Qur’an 9:33—It is He Who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to prevail it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). Qur’an 5:51—O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other. Qur’an 9:73—O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them. Qur’an 9:111—Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain. Qur’an 9:123—O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. Qur’an 47:35—Be not weary and fainthearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost. Qur’an 48:29—Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." (Bukhari, Book 83 Number 17) Sahih Muslim 30—Muhammad said: “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.” Sahih Muslim 4366—Muhammad said: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims.” Sunan An-Nasa’i 3099—The Prophet said: “Whoever dies without having fought or having thought of fighting, he dies on one of the branches of hypocrisy.” Sunan Ibn Majah 2763—The Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever meets Allah with no mark on him (as a result of fighting) in His cause, he will meet Him with a deficiency.” Sahih al-Bukhari 6922—Allah’s Messenger said, “If anyone changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” Qur'an (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso FIGHTETH IN THE WAY OF Allah, BE HE SLAIN or be he victorious, on him WE SHALL BESTOW A VAST REWARD" Qur'an (9:111)-"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, AND SLAY AND ARE SLAIN: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." Qur'an (2:207)-"And there is the type of man who GIVES HIS LIFE to earn the pleasure of Allah..." Qur'an (61:10-12)"O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will save you from a grievous Penalty? That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed the Supreme Achievement." This verse was given at the battle Uhud and uses the Arabic word, Jihad. The dark-eyed virgins are mentioned in several places as well, including verses 44:54 and 52:20. For those who swing the other way, there are"perpetual youth"verse6:17, otherwise known as"boys"verses52:24and76:19. Qur'an (17:33)"And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, EXCEPT BY RIGHT" Qur'an 3:151 Soon shall we cast TERROR into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companion with Allah... Bukhari (52:54)- The words of Muhammad:"I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred." This is why modern-day Jihadists often say that they love death. Qur'an (5:51)-"O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." Qur'an (5:80)-"You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell. Qur'an (3:28)-"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that"believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly." Qur'an (3:118)-"O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their bosoms conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends. Qur'an (9:23)-"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates"slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them" . Qur'an (53:29)-"Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world." Qur'an (3:85)-"And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers." Qur'an (3:10)-"(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98). Qur'an (7:44)-"The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire:"We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?"They shall say,"Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them:"The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being tortured (see22:19-22. Qur'an (1:5-7)-"Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger"specifically refers to Jews and"those who go astray"refers to Christians (seeBukhari (12:749). Remember the ultimate aim of Mohammed and devout Muslims is for Islam to dominate the world. They aim to murder all the pagans and atheists hence condemning their souls to hell, of courses they spare the Christians because a murdered christain in defense of his/her faith becomes heaven bound hence the devout Muslims are commanded to humiliate Christians and have them pay the jizyah or convert or die. Once a muslim renounces Islam they are commanded to behead the apostate. this is the religion of "peace". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmGRshS0PAw |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Demmzy15(m): 9:19pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Kyase don't let these people deceive you, Islam is not what you think it's is. They're portraying it in a bad manner, this so-called Christians on Nairaland aren't so different from bokoharam, the only difference is in killing. Bokoharam kills while they don't, but I know if given opportunity they will. Especially that Jagoon aka jargons and jcross19. If you want to know about Islam, ask from the right channel, they're deceivers! TAKKIYAH practicing Christians! |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by jcross19: 9:23pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Demmzy15:stop crying foul here I have given him the verses relating to or that consolidate the act of terrorism in islam let him read it by himself and compare to what boko haram are doing or isis doing on daily basis. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Demmzy15(m): 9:26pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
jcross19:Quote lemme see, I gat your time! |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by jcross19: 10:23pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Demmzy15:check my past posts you will see the quotations from manual of horror you called book. |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Demmzy15(m): 10:32pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
jcross19:Start posting from here, so as we can start our own here! Are you scared?! |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by jcross19: 10:39pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Demmzy15:scared of who? Even your demon allah can't even dare it. The person that need the quotations , have seen it so if you want it go there and if you can't take a bow. 2 Likes |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Demmzy15(m): 10:48pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
jcross19:No need to be vulgar, make we run am na! Shebi you get mouth, oya now! |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by jcross19: 10:50pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
Demmzy15:"k" 1 Like |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Demmzy15(m): 11:15pm On Jul 12, 2015 |
jcross19:Fear fear! |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Kyase(m): 12:05am On Jul 13, 2015 |
Parisbookaddict
interesting.
Understood 1 Like |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by parisbookaddict(f): 7:19am On Jul 13, 2015 |
Kyase: I have a lot more verses..this is just the quran.....the hadiths (narrations of the deeds of the "prophet" is a lot lot worse... Once upon a time i used to think the terrorists were "misunderstanders" of islam but the truth isthat they are the real muslims who follow mohammed commands in the quran to the letter... 1 Like |
Re: Was Islam Spread By The Sword? by Nobody: 7:55am On Jul 13, 2015 |
Demmzy15: What is this dunce saying Parisbookaddict just quoted over a hundred verses that teach violence and hatred from your evil quoran and you can still open your dirty mouth to say we are portraying Islam in a bad manner. It's mohamed and the quoran that makes islam bad and not us except you want to deny the quoran and accept it's a bad and evil book. |
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