₦airaland Forum

dustmalik:
Don't mind that idiot. I hope that perm. sec continues to ignore the invitation.

i wish you know the level of mistake Buhari making fighting the Senate. Soon Buhari will be on his knees begging Saraki unless Buhari does not want to achieve anything withen this four years.

If Buhari understands that this is democracy, he will understand that he needs Saraki more than Saraki needs him.

porka:
[size=13pt]And the same PDP provided the institutional frameworks for free and fair elections that your 'APC dog' would ride on?

What a destruction.[/size]

The will of the people did that, people have been pushed to the wall, rigging was not possible without consequence again

Chigold101:
i wish you know the level of mistake Buhari making fighting the Senate. Soon Buhari will be on his knees begging Saraki unless Buhari does not want to achieve anything withen this four years.

If Buhari understands that this is democracy, he will understand that he needs Saraki more than Saraki needs him.

how exactly did Buhari fight the senate, hope you know senators have no Immunity.

Mogidi:
Are you people inviting anarchy?

...one good turn deserves another...

senier007:
Karma is a B**tch, it hits you when you feel you are untouchable, and Army, Police, Court can't help you on this one since you disrespected both your fada and the party that brought you to power, when you disrespected your fada we didn't intervene cuz it's family issue unknown to us, you are turning yourself to a monster like and must be stopped or rubbished at all cost. I am a fulani man but I will vote for Asiwaju a millions times than to waste my vote on Atiku, dangote and the sarakis of this world. Jagaban Borgu till mahdi comes.

...thank you for being exact...

What goes around will surely comes around is just a matter of time!

porka:
You people should learn to live within laid down guidelines.

It is not what you want to happen or wish or what you think is the ideal. It's the LAW dammit! If you think the LAW is not working, change it.

There's a reason the LAW says there shall be ministers appointed by the president. There's a reason the LAW says these ministers so appointed serve as Executive Council of the Federation. Their functions are stated therein.

One of the most important functions of FEC is constituting a MEDICAL REVIEW BOARD in the case of president's health complications. They set up a medical panel to examine the state of health of the president to determine if he can still function as the chief executive of the country.

What happens if the dullard suddenly falls sick? If what happened during Yaradua era should happen now, the country would be in deep trouble.

It's obvious you people are just learning how a federal government is run (are you even learning?) but you should not attempt to bring silly arguments to justify lack of grasp of issues.

Not obeying the law is CORRUPTION.

Error!
Yes it is the law section and I am not saying he shouldn't appoint ministers. My point is, he shouldn't be pressured into selecting some unscrupulous elements just for the sake of meeting your demands *citing time is passing you by*. Many of the GEJ Ministers were popular for the wrong reasons and contributed largely to his downfall.
Better late than in a hurry! Or he'll be forced to select non-credible individuals. Nigeria isn't doing badly yet, I repeat. Cut him some slacks.

This guys need to calm down. Settle this thing amicably and let Nigeria move forward and grow in grace and peace!!!

I want to know three people that got their political positions on merit? The PS seems to misunderstand himself at this point. We have to move on.

akanbiaa:
how exactly did Buhari fight the senate, hope you know senators have no Immunity.

Lol who will approve the budget for the EFCC and the police to function? Who will confirm the nominee for the EFCC top job?

specco:
Majority of Nigeran voters earnestly wish they could turn back the hand of time to pre March 28 but its too late. The damage is already done until another opportunty in 2019. Once bitten twice shy.

Lol. In your dreams.

Repeat the election again, GEJ will still lose.

Election is over, accept defeat and move on.

MrCounselor:
Error!
Yes it is the law section and I am not saying he shouldn't appoint ministers. My point is, he shouldn't be pressured into selecting some unscrupulous elements just for the sake of meeting your demands *citing time is passing you by*. Many of the GEJ Ministers were popular for the wrong reasons and contributed largely to his downfall.
Better late than in a hurry! Or he'll be forced to select non-credible individuals. Nigeria isn't doing badly yet, I repeat. Cut him some slacks.

Since March 28 he hasn't found credible people



Abeg which yeye school you attended

Please go back and ask for a refund of your school fees

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When I see Nigerians disrespect the House by virture of maybe their wrongs I feel funny because not many understand the powers of that house. They have the capacity to grind the executive to a halt(that is the main reason APC would never forgive them, they can derail the government by their activities but that is if the gov't even has one), the PS yes as a public servant has alittle justification as he is bounded by the PS rules but that is not above the constitution which grants powers of oversight to the chambers. Whether it is the Senate president that can write him to come or house committee chairman is another subject and one needs to convince me the house committee chairman doesn't not act on behalf of the senate president(as his powers are delegated) for me to believe the Zamfara man as we wants us to believe. I hope to enjoy this next four years as this fight is healthy for our benefit and its just the judiciary I fear as that one is still under the armpit of the executive (we need to see these issues to understand each party knows their roles as provided in separation of powers). Someday we shall see issues like in the developed countries where the legislators can ban you from your career and even declare you in contempt of the house just by mere attending to an invitation and refuse to answer questions like we saw with Okonjo and many others.

If you refuse to see my point above, let me ask you how can you charge Minister of Petroleum to court without the house committee members who have oversight roles on the ministry? The monitor your roles and whoever feels its not ok can advice their lawyers in the ministry go to court to stop them like we saw in the other administration and you are aware of how the court responded. A mere vote of no confidence of the house as a resolution ought to drive the head of the executive to drive out such person because how can representatives of Nigerians(Millions) say we don't trust a man in a role and his boss will keep him? (as Maku why he had to apologize when he said the resolution of the house does not bind).

Our democracy stops being one the day an arm of government treats the other like its a department under it and by actions or inactions make Nigerians feel its is above the other. The day the chambers' committees can perform 40 of their oversight then we can say our system is making progress

senier007:
Karma is a B**tch, it hits you when you feel you are untouchable, and Army, Police, Court can't help you on this one since you disrespected both your fada and the party that brought you to power, when you disrespected your fada we didn't intervene cuz it's family issue unknown to us, you are turning yourself to a monster like and must be stopped or rubbished at all cost. I am a fulani man but I will vote for Asiwaju a millions times than to waste my vote on Atiku, dangote and the sarakis of this world. Jagaban Borgu till mahdi comes.

it is really good to have a fulani on board.

chukwudi44:
Lol who will approve the budget for the EFCC and the police to function? Who will confirm the nominee for the EFCC top job?

You don't understand naija politics.

All they need is a damning evidence o. Their past life and corruption.

You will see senate bow to presidency.

dammytosh:
Lol. In your dreams.

Repeat the election again, GEJ will still lose.

Election is over, accept defeat and move on.

You are living in space


Didn't you hear that Tinubu's boys plan to breakout of APC

Excuzeme:
You are sounding like a broken record! Stop repeating these nonsense again and again!.
..and stick to the issue being discussed.

If there is no impeachment, it means NO ONE was Impeached.
If you like "serve notice" hundred times! Any fool can do that.
Mind yo, we are talking "after the fact" here, almost nine years after the event. More than enough for the "service" t be realized, if it can be.

No on eis saying the NASS does not have power.
Issue here is that Saraki needs "member numbers" to weild such powers, 2/3rd majority in ALL cases where it affects the President.

Saraki does not have 72-Senators in his camp, to make those NASS Powers work for him (Ghandi12 has done the Maths for us, right?)
If he does not have the "numbers", ( just like clueless SaTANoids like you were mouthing before the Presidential election and we told you that "You dont have the numbers.... with the attendant failure! ) ... he is bound to be just a toothless barking Dog when it comes to impeachment or not approving an Appointment from the President!

Meanwhile, PMB only needs to pressure the current EFCC/ICPC bosses (not even replace them, as we are seeing already) and they would do their "digging" on Saraki and take him to court for conviction, based on 'not so difficult to find' evidence.
Bukola Saraki has a very sordid criminal past (his father has been shielding him in the past though) and a criminal conviction would put an end to his political career and the Senate Presidency he stole brazenly (with the array of Senators and people plus Presidency gunning for his head right now).

Saraki will be out quicker than we expected....... even begging will not save him as l dont see all these forces he has offended in avery terrible and unforgivable manner, ever forgiving him.

Bookmark this post, in a few weeks time, we will dig up this post, when Saraki is impeached (or vacates Senate President post voluntarily, to save his Senate seat).
I said same thing to SaTANoids before the election and when it came to pass, l quoted myself.

I have broken it down for **** like you in simple ABC!

if you still cant understand and come back with some thrash ranting, l will simply ignore you and you can #WailWailers all you like.
Kappish?

2/3 majority only for impeachment and we are not talking about that. Saraki has the power to shut down PMB. For the umpteenth time, Saraki just needs a simple majority to reject PMB's budget request. Mind u GEJ passed the budget, so he's going to need a supplementary budget to carry out his agenda.
Folks like u don't get it that it's about the money-€£$; and NASS has the key to the purse!!

CFCfan:
Section 147(6) provides a legal loophole for the President with regard to ministerial nominations. If the Senate does not act within 21 days of its receipt of the nomination, the nominee is deemed to have been legally appointed as minister

I agree with you -its a wide loop with deep hole

CFCfan:
As regards to the "overriding veto" power of the NASS, section 58(5) states that: "Where the President withholds his assent and the bill is again passed by each House by two-thirds majority, the bill shall become law and the assent of the President shall not be required."
I recall that the 2003 Electoral Act became law in the same fashion.

As I have shown earlier the Buhari led APC seems to have 51-loyal Senators while the 49-loyal PDP Senators will do anything to make the new Government fail. The 8-APC Senators backing Saraki are cautious but already marked. In the worst case scenario (49 + 8 ) will become 57 Senators.

2/3 of 108 Senators = 72 Senators. SP Saraki will not likely, ever, get the required 2/3 majority (72 Senators) to override Presidential vetoes as you posited.

My observation remains the 1999 Constitution endows the Presidency with much powers over the other arms of the Federal Government. As a matter of fact the NASS is as popular and visible as a smart Presidency wants it to be.

With this development,Nigeria can't move forward now even in the next 6months, everybody want revenge and to be revenged ,all i am seing is unforgiveness.
Who will screen and confirm Buhari cabinet?.

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Mark my words, in d next 2 years, Nigerians that voted GMB, will ask for his way out. I trust my Nigerians cos I know we are not patient.

MrCounselor:
Thank you bro, you buttressed your point beautifully without no stress. You just enlightened me.

But the main verb in section(1) are: SHALL & MAY (not MUST)... Meaning he may choose to or not, just expected of the president.

Now to the house, what if he choose not?
But I doubt he wouldn't choose any, just trying not to make costly mistakes. And by the way, Nigeria is not faring badly at the moment except terrorism even though Security Chiefs are intact too. My mind goes all out to the terrorism victims.

When the word 'SHALL' is used in formal legislative/statutory books or laws it connotes compulsion. In other words it is mandatory that the President shall appoint ministers at least one from each state who shall be an indigene of such state. The word 'MUST' is rarely, if ever, used cos that is not legislative drafting language. This is settled law and has been pronounced upon countless times by the Supreme Court. Therefore the President shall appoint ministers, his only discretion is when and even that must be within a reasonable time after which questions may be asked. Don't forget there is an Executive Council of the Federation which must work too. The governing boards of various MDGSs have d membership/leadership of ministers statutorily recognised as well. He may delay for a certain time but it must be done if governance is to be carried out as should be.

akanbiaa:
how exactly did Buhari fight the senate, hope you know senators have no Immunity.

i dont know where immunity come into this matter.

If a permanent secretery refuses to see the senate president cos presidency did not clear him, what does that mean?

Beside, my comment was a responce to another comment.

AhmadMind:
[size=18pt]The Problem here is that by ONE Singular Action PMB has vindicated GEJ years of SHARING MONEY...

Because for a democratically elected President to single-handedly dish out over Half A Trillion Naira.... without proper NEC or Senate or Bureaucratic discussions or Referendum ..... Nigeria is in Big trouble. How will investors feel
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Are you saying the NEC hasnt been constituted? Are you schooling in Somalia?

Saraki the traitor watch your back

Chigold101:
i dont know where immunity come into this matter.

If a permanent secretery refuses to see the senate president cos presidency did not clear him, what does that mean?

Beside, my comment was a responce to another comment.

then Saraki should do the needful and formally write the presidency for clearance not informally.

chukwudi44:
Lol who will approve the budget for the EFCC and the police to function? Who will confirm the nominee for the EFCC top job?

how long did wabara, okadigbo, nnamani, anyim and enwerem last as senate president? Saraki is only a senator what makes a senate president really powerful and last on the seat is the cooperation of the party and majority of the house at least 80%

kenny987:
When the word 'SHALL' is used in formal legislative/statutory books or laws it connotes compulsion. In other words it is mandatory that the President shall appoint ministers at least one from each state who shall be an indigenes of such state. The word 'MUST' is rarely, if ever, used cos that is not legislative drafting language. This is settled law and has been pronounced upon countless times by the Supreme Court. Therefore the President shall appoint ministers, his only discretion is when and even that must be within a reasonable time after which questions may be asked. Don't forget there is an Executive Council of the Federation which must work too. The governing boards of various MDGSs have d membership/leadership of ministers statutorily recognised as well. He may delay for a certain time but it must be done if governance is to be carried out as should be.

Could you please post one of the Supreme Court pronouncements on 'shall' for our information. Thanks.

Chigold101:
i wish you know the level of mistake Buhari making fighting the Senate. Soon Buhari will be on his knees begging Saraki unless Buhari does not want to achieve anything withen this four years.

If Buhari understands that this is democracy, he will understand that he needs Saraki more than Saraki needs him.

It's clear that Buhari does not want peace. For God's sake this man should let the sleeping dog be. At this rate, i fear that Nigeria may go back to the days of political assasinations.

Ghandi12:
Could you please post one of the Supreme Court pronouncements on 'shall' for our information. Thanks.

Shall is mandatorily applicable in law- it's a precedent that dates back to Common Law of UK since Naija system is a derivate of UK system

This Party is beginning to irritate me. Saraki may have secured the sit of SP without party, but he did it within the Constitution of Nigeria and the Senate. is the perm-sec not takes order from APC leadership and not to obey the constitution? Perm-sec is not a political appointment plssssss.

The system is getting rotten and not change pls

midolian:
Saraki don spoil hinself. He will go down in history as the most disrespected senate president as a result of the treacherous means through which he occupied that exalted seat.

I see more troubles in government and more blatant insubordination coming up due to this Saraki wayo emergence issue.I foresee this guy getting kicked out before his term is done